@@Stefan-X24 Paul in 2 Thes 2 says, 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"" so how can it be in his time? And when Jesus said, ""When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)...", and that Daniel was referring to the time near the end, how can it be in His generation?
True...and then He gave the Revelation of the Messiah to His servant John. *The Revelation of Yahushua the Messiah, which YHWH gave unto him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel unto His servant John:* WAKE UP MY People...the end is nigh!!!! Now His “people: KNOW!!!
Is it not a fact that no other people at any time in the history of the church have received as much truth as God has given us in our time? Line upon line, precept upon precept, instruction upon instruction, have been given us, so that we, as a people, may know and understand the ways of the Lord, obey His voice, keep His charge, commandments, statutes, and laws; thus becoming the "children of Abraham, and heirs according to the promise." When this is realized in the hearts of men then they will fulfill the charge given to Peter. Peter said, "Thou knowest I love Thee." Jesus saith unto him, "Feed My sheep."
The greek just says 'holy'. Sanctuary must be added in. The greatest support is the Latin Vulgate because 'sanctuary' exists in the Latin. Sometimes the Holy means The Temple which is backed by other documents at the time. It would not mean the Holy of Holies in my opinion. Dan 8:14 And he said to him "Until the evening and morning of two thousand three hundred days and the holy (sanctuary)ᵃ will be purified"
the word sanctuary is indeed in there... you must have gotten mixed up with the "daily" when the word sacrifice is added. and chapter 8 is written in Hebrew, not greek... and Latin was unknow even after hundreds of years it was written...
The fact that God "hath appointed a day" of judgment Acts 17:31 and that such a judgment would "begin at the house of God" I Pet 4:17 and that this judgment would precede the coming of Christ Rev.14:7 & 14 is a truth that cannot be denied. Also, that such a judgment would involve either the blotting out of sins on the books of heaven or the blotting out of names in the book of life cannot be denied - See Ex.32:33; Acts 3:19; Rev.3:5. Eze.18:24 tells us that "when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die." So, I perceive that this would be an upsetting truth to those who believe that all you have to do is believe in Jesus and you are saved forever no matter what you do in this life. That is why there are so many that hate this doctrine.
@Craig Meeker, all these things that you refer to prove nothing that the Theory of Investigative Judgment is correct. God will judge the world when He judges the world. We don't know when, but it is linked to His Second Coming, so either shortly before or at the time of His return. Or judgment may well be done at the time of the person's death, sealed either for salvation or damnation. This isn't something that the Bible reveals. The Bible says that some people will be saved, some will be lost. This is the judgment. Refusing to accept SDA's IJ isn't linked in any way to rejecting that God will judge the world. SDA is wrong. Nothing in the Bible even hints at IJ beginning in 1844. This theory is a non starter. If SDA wants to keep at least the apearance of following the Bible, they'll have to forsake this false doctrine.
Judgement and the second coming are 2 separate things..The second Coming is just a pick up and perhaps a 24 hour episode!..we cannot know His arrival but we are given the chance to know the time of the close of Probation...2024..
Why did god leave it to mortals to interpret this stuff? No wonder no one can agree on anything. "Little horn" with a open "little book" is somehow going to lead us to a date in time? Yes for Millerites (SDAs are under this heading) et al. No for all other Christians.
Only those who prays for discernment and studies the Word diligently understands... Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge... The word "remnants" means a few left. The Bible says these things are spiritually discerned so pray for understanding. The Bible is the Word of God conveyed through "mortals" as you call them, and please let the Bible interpret itself not mortals (2Peter 1:20).. I will pray for you.
The Word of God is to interpret itself, not "mortals". The author of the Bible is God, He is the only who can interpret it, and the Bible indeed interprets itself.
In retrospect..the moral lesson of the story is: many accept and say in their hearts i love Jesus but in reality THEY do not really believe Jesus simple teachings..Jesus said..Only the father know his second coming..even today..THEY still dont believe his teachings ..that money is the root of all evils and no longer the devil as the root of all evils since 2000 years ago..blessed are the poor...the checklists of Salvation that Jesus lectured..the 8 times blessedness....read it a hundred times and it still say come out of Babylon till judgment day!
money is a tool... the act if loving money is a sin... not money itself but I am surprised it seemed you have read the book of Revelation and denies that the devil is not the enemy but money.... Revelation talks about the great dragon, the serpent of old, the devil, the one that deceives the whole world, an overwhelming statement disclosing who the real enemy is. It is true that no one knows the hour of His coming but I am sure you are aware that Jesus gave us the signs of His soon coming. Daniel and Revelation talks about the progressing events that should take place leading to His second advent. And the message to Philadelphia, the church before the last one, talks about the key of David, Christ's governance AND judgment.... thats why the 1844 message strengthened my faith and assurance I am in the right church... the only one with the 1844 message, and I thank God for the enlightenment when I used to have doubts about it when I was young in the faith. Indeed come out of Babylon, but how can you come out of it if you dont know who or what it is. Prayers.
Why do Adventist teach against the observance of the ceremonial laws after they used them on October 22, 1844 to establish their religion and the doctrine of the investigative judgement? #ReturnToTorah
@@ggo6610 Because they say that they used the Hebrew calendar to determine October 22, 1844 to be the day of atonement that year. Unfortunately they were a month off because the day of atonement in 1844 was September 22. So they incorrectly calculated the day of atonement to create their religion. Sad...😞
Pastor Bohr should preach this message again coupled with RBF (Jones & Waggoner) as applicable to the instruction for the remnant to ‘prophesy again’ (Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.)
I tell you the truth William Miller was onto something. October 22 1844 falls to far from the Autumnal Equinox. It was first thought His glorious day would appear in the fall of 1843 around the autumnal equinox. There were those who countered the truth behind Miller's understanding of prophetic time. That was the rise twenty years before with Darbyism and its dispensationalist teachings. One needs to sincerely read through the findings of the Swiss astronomer Jean Lloyd Phillippe de Cheseaux (18th century) astronomical findings. It is correct that this is a span of 2300 years from the issuing of the decree. Once you have read that, then pick up a book by E.W. Bullinger 'Witness of the Stars' reading the last chapter. Bullinger was a ultra dispensationalist. His book reveals as do many other books on the gospel in the stars conclude the story ending in the constellation Leo. With use of the Stellarium star atlas you can view Leo and its main star Regulus greeting autumn colure. The Autumn Colure is the point in the sky where the ecliptic and the celestial equator meet. This event completes another 2300 year solar-lunar cycle (Daniel cycle as de Chesheaux describes) from the "the Great Disappointment" from the Fall of 1843. In Bullinger's book shares the star-lore of Leo the Lion will ROAR, destroying that serpent of old. The serpent is Hydra that is underneath Leo. What I see happen here is the fall of 1843 is the event of the time of end leading up to the 'end of time' when the lion of Judah will 'crush the head of the serpent'. This was a discovery for me back in March of 2017. For the bible student concluding the 2300 prophetic time as literal days. Surely those four empires could not of fallen into such a time. Bullinger's book tries to reconcile the two thoughts of literal time and the day for a year understanding in prophecy. He was a believer in Jesus the Christ without bias to Miller himself. be blessed for the time is nigh. Michael
For me to believe you i would have to tell myself the Word of God is incomplete and non-conclusive, and will ask God why He did not even give a hint about the solar lunar and the autumnal equinox and everything else you are talking about. It takes more faith to believe that than what the Word has already revealed so clearly, with evidence. Surely the Word is spiritually discerned. Sincerest Prayers for you
Jeremiah, here's the info. type in - william H shea / biblical research institute and open first heading then scroll down to - when did 70 weeks of daniel 9 begin
I think Willian shea did a book on that topic, so if you go on line and search for that topic you should find it. I had it but my computer crashed and I lost all my files. But the SDA church would provide it if you contact the General conference...or write this speaker at - secrets unsealed...which is his ministry....hope this helps but it was Oct 22 1844
@@DavidKing-qd3sp SDA pastors only know what they are taught by their church. Some of it is true, others are false beliefs. Don't go to any pastor. Read the Bible, it's all there. 1844 had no prophetic significance. See Hebrews, clearly Jesus Christ's crussifiction and resurection was the Day of Attonement . Not 1844.
I will NEVER understand how Miller and Adventists today can imply ignore What Gabriel told Daniel: Daniel 8:21 The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king. 22 The broken horn and the four horns that arose in its place represent four kingdoms which will arise from his nation, although not with his power. 23 “In the latter period of their rule, When the transgressors have run their course, A king will arise, Insolent and skilled in intrigue. This little horn arose during the latter period of divided Greece which was before the Roman Empire rose to power. Daniel 8 had absolutely nothing to do with 1844.
Of course. 1844 has no prophetic value whatsoever. And we know from the book of Hebrews that what Jesus did at His crucifixion, resurection and what He is doing now , was symbolised by the service at the Day of Atonement. Simple and clear!
@@July-A7 Jesus CRUCIFIXION was the Lamb offering, not atonement! The result of that perfect offering is the Atonement, which is the cleansing of the sanctuary by the High Priest. It is a step by step process, they dont happen all at the same time. And before the Atonement which happens in the holiest place, the High Priest has to go to the Holy Place first. I suggest you study the sanctuary more closely.
@@ggo6610 thanks for your suggestion, brother, but you are mistaken. You follow SDA and they are the only once who do not understand the Old testament sanctuary service, neither what happened on the cross, let alone what Jesus did when he went up in heaven and been doing since. It's all in the Bible. Hebrews is very clear on it. Also parts of Romans and other texts. In short, the old sanctuary services were all symbolising the greatest event in the universe, the real Day of Atonement. All sanctuary services with all sanctuary objects represented the ministry of Jesus for the salvation of people. This salvation plan culminates at the cross. The services in the Holy place represented the faith in the coming Saviour. It was never meant that Christ would repeat these services till 1844, contrary to SDA's erroneous claims. Jesus was our lamb and out high priest. When He sacrificed Himself, he went up in heaven in God's presence, which was simbolised by the high priest gong in the Most Holy place once a year behind the curtain. The curtain simbolised Jesus own flesh. The bread and candle lights and censor also simbolised Christ. The sanctuary services were fulfilled in Jesus, hence He cried at the cross "It is finished". Salvation of people was finished, it was wrought out, completed. It was secured. Satan became the defeated enemy. Since His ascention, Jesus has been reinstated as God, sitting at the right hand of God and those who are saved have access to the Father through Jesus, who intercedes for us. He will stand up and leave the Heavenly sanctuary one day when the time of probation is over and come back to earth to take His people. Let's keep discussions civilised, please. God bless!
You never hear Adventist pastors talk about the Feast of Dedication (a.k.a Hanukkah) in John 10:22-23, what it means and its origins, because there's a clear connection between Daniel 8:14 and that passage in John 10:22-23. If Jesus was there at Solomon's Temple to celebrate Hanukkah (circa 30-33AD when John 10:22-23 took place) and Hanukkah was instituted after Judas Maccabeus cleansed and restored the temple in 165BC after the defilement by Antiochus IV Epiphanes (fufilling the prophecy in Daniel 8:14 that the sanctuary would be cleansed after Antiochus LITERAL 2300 day reign of defiling the temple ended), why would Jesus need to go back to heaven and cleanse a "sanctuary" in 1844 that had already been cleansed more than 2000 years earlier? Every year in December, when you see Jews around the world celebrate Hannukah, they disprove SDA's 1844 Sanctuary nonsense as applying to an imaginary event in heaven that never took place. Adventism's foundation doctrine and Ellen White's prophetic influence is completely destroyed once you understand the connection between the real meaning of Daniel 8:14 and John 10:22-23. Imaging basing your church on a prophecy that is......wait for it......2008 YEARS OFF (165BC vs 1844AD)? What a joke!
Jesus rejected Jews Nation for rejecting Him as their Saviour. And thereafter, Jesus rejected the large group of people who rejected the Advent message, written by EGW. You rejected this message, will not Jesus reject you also?
@@ggo6610 You did not believe me which I told you the words of God came trough the mouth of His prophet. Punishment will be the same as the punishment of Jews for the rejection of Christ and His law. You will see yourself without cloth when the bridegroom comes.
Mt 24: 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; BELIEVE IT NOT. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Rev 1: 7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”and “EVERY EYE will see him..."
1844 is enshrouded with a lot of doubts, but if you study the Word like what 2Tim 2:15 says, one will discern and confirm it, it is one of those that STRENGTHENS YOUR FAITH knowing that the Lord, in HIs Revelation, and in HIs generosity showed us His plan is coming true... and it will never fail. Let us pray for each other. BE GROUNDED ON TRUTH, hold on to it and share it..... "TRUTH IS VIOLATED BY LIES, BUT IS OUTRAGED BY SILENCE."
God never fails but SDA failed miserably! Instead of moving forward after the Great disappointment, they chose to continue with a perpetual lie for a century and decades and continuing, thus making themselves to be the false prophet of Revelation. All churches and people who claim to speak on God's behalf yet teach false doctrines, are the second beast of Rev 13, that is, the false prophet.
@@July-A7 On the contrary, the remnants actually moved forward to study the Word more and had enough courage to say that the sanctuary is not the earth itself. But wait, were not the disciples also had a misconception about how Jesus will claim His kingdom? They did even contend with each other for the ranking and positions right? Thomas even doubted the rising up of Jesus though HE told them about it. Did they stop because of their misconception? Or did they continue To grow in faith and understanding? And yes there were also mockers in their days. Now I hope you see the parallels. FYI: there were NO SDAs YET in 1844. How so convenient to abandon the idea of 1844 and start anew, but no, they chose the right way! But when you have failed to discern that my questions are rhetorical in the other thread, that tells me something. Have you wondered what "sweet in the mouth, bitter in the stomach means? I WILL STILL PRAY FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
@@July-A7 Ran out of good arguments? Indeed the LORD DID NOT EXTERMINATE THE DEVIL BUT DEFEATED HIM WHEN HE EXPOSED HIS LIES. I hope you can muster enough courage to say you are wrong. I rest my case.
@g go, The only parallel that exists is that once the disciples realised their error, they converted and lived and died serving our Lord. Unlike SDA, who continued to spread lies and refuses to accept that they are wrong.
William Miller was right- Spirit of Christ did indeed return to the earth in 1844 as he predicted. Please watch THE MILLER PREDICTION on TH-cam. Millions of Baha'is around the world believe that BAHA'U'LLAH ( The Glory of God ) is the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. They are presently teaching His message of Unity of Mankind and World Peace in 200 countries Also watch the documentary "World Peace - A Baha'i Vision" on TH-cam.
Bahai is a religion created by Jesuits. You know, Bahai is the religion of United Nation? Who runs UN? It is the Jesuits who runs it from the back door.
All these non-Adventist watched the video because the title says "disappointment SDA" haha they watched it because they thought the video was gonna bash the sda church. Sorry to disappoint you. I can tell that all these comments were written by people who didn't watch the video (why would they) The truth is that this is not about the sda church. What's important is knowing the truth. Many of you posting and commenting have never studied the Bible for yourselves but rather listened to the believes of others such as preachers and parents. Here are a few facts for those who do not know about the sda church. Fact #1 We do not worship Ellen white, nor put her writings ahead of the Bible. #2 the sda church did not exist in 1844, it was started after the disappointment. #3 this 1844 disappointment consist of Christians from all different denominations #4 the sda church was started by those who went back to the Bible to discover the truth about the great disappointment and why the error was made. #5 the Bible talks about the great disappointment(misinterpretation of the book of daniel)in revelation 10. #6 it is not a sin to keep the 10 commandments #7 the millerites did not get the date wrong, they got the event wrong. #8 NOT even ONE of you so called "bible scholars" commenting on here have read and understood the book of revelations. #9 sda are baptized in Christ and believe in the Bible and the Bible alone, so by your believes we are already saved and perfected so why are you bad mouthing other saved Christian rather then opening your ears to hear if what we are saying is the truth? #10 the day will come when the blurred lines of Christianity will be apparent and visible, but like those who didn't get into the ark it will be too late cause the doors of probation will be closed. Jesus said it clearly and plainly. #11 Jesus also said he would give us the spirit of Elijah to help guide us in the last days. He couldn't be talking about Paul because Paul's writing existed long before the end days. So we are in the last days, where is the spirit of Elijah to guide us? And don't tell me it's Mrs. Aunty baker at your church that's always prophesying about what the weather is going to be like or who you should marry or not. This spirit of Elijah is on a global scale just as the competing spirit of Jezebel is on a global scale. STOP defending and arguing on what you've merely heard and start seeking answers for yourselves. Read the Bible for real. Stop reading just selecting scriptures and books of the Bible. You don't do that with movies or your favorite Netflix series. You watch all episodes to better understand the story.
@heeveho. To understand the Bible, it’s way better if pastors are historians too. How would you know that the little horn that was wounded, was when Napoleon’s man, Berthier, took the Pope prisoner? In my part of the world, no preachers had ever given any explanation of the prophecies. It’s the same thing in Canada-America, then, 1 day, watching some snowy channel in Guyana, a few preachers from the USA, I think, after very long years of frustration, explained a lot of the prophecies. Smting I’ve waited for all my life. This has renewed my interest in the Bible like never before. It’s like wiping the sweat from your forehead with your thumb thinking, I almost didn’t get to know all these, bcuz a lot of people have gone vertical permanently without knowing a large part of the book that they went to church for all their life. You can actually connect major past n future events to the Bible (almost all the explanations are buried under parables so u need a solid knowledge of history, n major brain cells to understand it all. Congrats to all the white Protestants pastors, I guess non-white preachers aren’t much fans of white history for good reasons that we all know). Sometime, it’s necessary to dump the church, n travel far n wide, to find what u need. If u ever wondered why some ppl, n particularly “important” people, are against the Bible, it’s bcuz the good book is telling the world about the evil 👿 plan of the wicked.
You have been badly deceived. William Miller on whose movement the SDA was built and whom Ellen White proclaimed was a great messenger of God, disobeyed scripture about setting a day for the return of the Lord, 3 times to boot, and then admitted that he had been wrong. He did not accept the message of the Seventh Day Adventists, as a real messenger of God would if it was the true outworking of the Advent Movement. Miller totally botched biblical interpretation by saying that the Sanctuary of Daniel 8:14 was the earth; a suggestion that has absolutely nothing to support it. The Millerite Advent movement and it's message, which Mrs White says was the Midnight Cry, never even reached the whole of the U.S., far less the whole of the inhabited earth, which Christ promised would happen before He comes, so we have another major error, just overlooked like it means nothing, by Ellen and the SDA church. Since they believed that the Millerite message was the Midnight Cry, just prior to the 2nd Coming , the Shut Door Adventists, who became the SDA in 1863, had a few more expected years and disappointments ( they did not set a day this time). In her later years, Mrs White again prophesied that His Coming would be very soon, before the youth present could get old and have kids of their own. When this did not happen , she blamed Christ not showing up on the SDA members for not being in right standing and preaching the 3 Angel's Messages to the world. We are now more than 174 years removed from that failed prophecy, and many still think the Millerite Movement was of God and that those who rejected it, correctly, as error , were the ones in the wrong and rejected by God. That is what your prophetess Ellen White taught. The whole thing is a tragic comedy.
@@thenowchurch6419FYI: there were NO SDAs YET in 1844. How so convenient to abandon the idea of 1844 and start anew, but no, they chose to study the Word closely and chose the right way! On the contrary, the remnants actually moved forward to study the Word more and had enough courage to say that the sanctuary is not the earth itself. But wait, were not the disciples also had a misconception about how Jesus will claim His kingdom? They did even contend with each other for the ranking and positions right? Thomas even doubted the rising up of Jesus though HE told them about it. Did they stop because of their misconception? Or did they continue To grow in faith and understanding? And yes there were also mockers in their days. Now I hope you see the parallels. Btw, Paul has been preaching that Jesus coming is soon, so Ellen White is not alone in that. I think you are the one who has been deceived. I will pray for you. Study Daniel7, 8 and 9, the 7 churches specifically Philadelphia, The sanctuary, REvelation they connect and says it all. This one is a quick answer but details will take you hours .. @. If you sincerely do look for answers then pray first for understanding for these things are spiritually discerned that's what the bible says.
Unfortunately, instead of William Miller simply admitting that he had misapplied the day/year principle in his predicting Jesus' return in 1843/1844 , they simply rolled it into a fictitious event ignoring the fact that Jesus has been in the most holy place ever since He ascended into heaven. This theory of Miller's also rejects the idea that Jesus' work of atonement was finished at the cross. The entire book of Daniel can be summed up in the Daniel 2:20-22: _Daniel said, “Let the name of God be blessed forever and ever, For wisdom and power belong to Him. “It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men And knowledge to men of understanding. “It is He who reveals the profound and hidden things; He knows what is in the darkness, And the light dwells with Him._ This book is about the setting up and removal of kingdoms culminating with the coming of Jesus Christ who is the rock who's kingdom is eternal. It is so sad to see SDA's totally turn their back on fulfilled prophecy in order to perpetuate a horrible misinterpretation of scripture. The prophecies of Daniel 8 and Daniel 9 have nothing to do with each other contextually. Chapter 9 concerns the Jews returning from exile, rebuilding the temple, a designated period for finishing up transgression and sacrifice, the coming of the Messiah, Him being crucified and the eventual destruction of the temple which Jesus talked about in the Olivet discourse. Chapter 8 is all contained within the empires of Media-Persia and Greece/divided Greece. The little horn comes from one of the four horns and comes in the later period of their (divided Greece) rule as stated in verse 23. Rome never was part of the Greek Empire so this cannot apply to the pope or Rome. Blessings!
“Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth- to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people-“saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” Revelation 14:6,7. I assume you believe in the three angels message. If you read Revelation 13 and 14 you can see that judgment comes after the 42 months (1260 years) which ended in 1798. The 2300 day prophecy beautifully harmonizes with the 1st angels message in Revelation 14.
Adventist prophetic preachers always sound like used car salesmen trying super hard to convince you to buy that lemon. A truth does not need that much human rhetoric ,shoehorning and sophistry.
on the contrary, there are a lot of converts to adventism that need not go to "salesmen" as you termed, but by carefully studying the Word of God. Funny how you can just conclude without showing the basis of your conclusion... that is called libel... sharing knowledge is not selling just in case you missed it.
Another sda standup comic . All sda preachers repeat the same joke by their god ellen white lie from her great book the great comedy. 1844 and the investigative jugdement are their pillars, without them their cult will fall, but they are lies. while reading her book i could'nt help laughing, hence i call it the great comedy. But seriously this is what the true GOD and my FATHER says, not from ellen but from the kjv. Heb ch10 vs 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrafice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of GOD: see where he is? and vs14 says For by one offering he had perfected for ever them that are santified.When you are born again you are perfected for ever, And this is what happens to you after you get saved. Eph1 vs13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed ye were sealed {confirmed} with that holy Spirit of promise and vs 14 Which is the earnest {pledge} of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. There is no IJ and 1844 crap. Now i suggest all you sda people get saved and find a bible believing church and forget that witch ellen with her badly blurred visions.
It seemed you got mixed up with justification and sanctification.... judgment even if you use just your common sense calls for it... but the bible clearly talks about it. use concordance see how many times it was talked about.that is if you really want to know the TRUTH. if not then i can only offer a prayer for you. Revelations message to Philadelphia talks about key of david... see what it means (Is 22:22, 9:6-7) and the bible alone will tell you. I hope studying the Bible will help you with your character as well, as Mt chapter 7 says... Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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Jesus said the only one who knows his return is the Father.
Paul said the advent It would be in his time.
Jesus said the advent would be in His generation's time.
@@Stefan-X24 Paul in 2 Thes 2 says, 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"" so how can it be in his time?
And when Jesus said, ""When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)...", and that Daniel was referring to the time near the end, how can it be in His generation?
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My comment was made to someone else, discussing a different topic, who removed his comment.
True...and then He gave the Revelation of the Messiah to His servant John. *The Revelation of Yahushua the Messiah, which YHWH gave unto him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel unto His servant John:* WAKE UP MY People...the end is nigh!!!! Now His “people: KNOW!!!
Is it not a fact that no other people at any time in the history of the church have received as much truth as God has given us in our time? Line upon line, precept upon precept, instruction upon instruction, have been given us, so that we, as a people, may know and understand the ways of the Lord, obey His voice, keep His charge, commandments, statutes, and laws; thus becoming the "children of Abraham, and heirs according to the promise." When this is realized in the hearts of men then they will fulfill the charge given to Peter. Peter said, "Thou knowest I love Thee." Jesus saith unto him, "Feed My sheep."
The greek just says 'holy'. Sanctuary must be added in. The greatest support is the Latin Vulgate because 'sanctuary' exists in the Latin. Sometimes the Holy means The Temple which is backed by other documents at the time. It would not mean the Holy of Holies in my opinion.
Dan 8:14 And he said to him "Until the evening and morning of two thousand three hundred days and the holy (sanctuary)ᵃ will be purified"
the word sanctuary is indeed in there... you must have gotten mixed up with the "daily" when the word sacrifice is added. and chapter 8 is written in Hebrew, not greek... and Latin was unknow even after hundreds of years it was written...
The fact that God "hath appointed a day" of judgment Acts 17:31 and that such a judgment would "begin at the house of God" I Pet 4:17 and that this judgment would precede the coming of Christ Rev.14:7 & 14 is a truth that cannot be denied. Also, that such a judgment would involve either the blotting out of sins on the books of heaven or the blotting out of names in the book of life cannot be denied - See Ex.32:33; Acts 3:19; Rev.3:5. Eze.18:24 tells us that "when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die." So, I perceive that this would be an upsetting truth to those who believe that all you have to do is believe in Jesus and you are saved forever no matter what you do in this life. That is why there are so many that hate this doctrine.
@Craig Meeker, all these things that you refer to prove nothing that the Theory of Investigative Judgment is correct.
God will judge the world when He judges the world. We don't know when, but it is linked to His Second Coming, so either shortly before or at the time of His return. Or judgment may well be done at the time of the person's death, sealed either for salvation or damnation. This isn't something that the Bible reveals. The Bible says that some people will be saved, some will be lost. This is the judgment.
Refusing to accept SDA's IJ isn't linked in any way to rejecting that God will judge the world. SDA is wrong. Nothing in the Bible even hints at IJ beginning in 1844. This theory is a non starter. If SDA wants to keep at least the apearance of following the Bible, they'll have to forsake this false doctrine.
Judgement and the second coming are 2 separate things..The second Coming is just a pick up and perhaps a 24 hour episode!..we cannot know His arrival but we are given the chance to know the time of the close of Probation...2024..
Why did god leave it to mortals to interpret this stuff? No wonder no one can agree on anything. "Little horn" with a open "little book" is somehow going to lead us to a date in time? Yes for Millerites (SDAs are under this heading) et al. No for all other Christians.
Only those who prays for discernment and studies the Word diligently understands... Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge... The word "remnants" means a few left. The Bible says these things are spiritually discerned so pray for understanding. The Bible is the Word of God conveyed through "mortals" as you call them, and please let the Bible interpret itself not mortals (2Peter 1:20).. I will pray for you.
The Word of God is to interpret itself, not "mortals". The author of the Bible is God, He is the only who can interpret it, and the Bible indeed interprets itself.
In retrospect..the moral lesson of the story is: many accept and say in their hearts i love Jesus but in reality THEY do not really believe Jesus simple teachings..Jesus said..Only the father know his second coming..even today..THEY still dont believe his teachings ..that money is the root of all evils and no longer the devil as the root of all evils since 2000 years ago..blessed are the poor...the checklists of Salvation that Jesus lectured..the 8 times blessedness....read it a hundred times and it still say come out of Babylon till judgment day!
money is a tool... the act if loving money is a sin... not money itself but I am surprised it seemed you have read the book of Revelation and denies that the devil is not the enemy but money.... Revelation talks about the great dragon, the serpent of old, the devil, the one that deceives the whole world, an overwhelming statement disclosing who the real enemy is. It is true that no one knows the hour of His coming but I am sure you are aware that Jesus gave us the signs of His soon coming. Daniel and Revelation talks about the progressing events that should take place leading to His second advent. And the message to Philadelphia, the church before the last one, talks about the key of David, Christ's governance AND judgment.... thats why the 1844 message strengthened my faith and assurance I am in the right church... the only one with the 1844 message, and I thank God for the enlightenment when I used to have doubts about it when I was young in the faith. Indeed come out of Babylon, but how can you come out of it if you dont know who or what it is. Prayers.
Why do Adventist teach against the observance of the ceremonial laws after they used them on October 22, 1844 to establish their religion and the doctrine of the investigative judgement?
#ReturnToTorah
How, as you perceived, did they use the ceremonial laws to come up with 1844???
@@ggo6610 Because they say that they used the Hebrew calendar to determine October 22, 1844 to be the day of atonement that year. Unfortunately they were a month off because the day of atonement in 1844 was September 22. So they incorrectly calculated the day of atonement to create their religion. Sad...😞
Pastor Bohr should preach this message again coupled with RBF (Jones & Waggoner) as applicable to the instruction for the remnant to ‘prophesy again’ (Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.)
I tell you the truth William Miller was onto something. October 22 1844 falls to far from the Autumnal Equinox. It was first thought His glorious day would appear in the fall of 1843 around the autumnal equinox. There were those who countered the truth behind Miller's understanding of prophetic time. That was the rise twenty years before with Darbyism and its dispensationalist teachings.
One needs to sincerely read through the findings of the Swiss astronomer Jean Lloyd Phillippe de Cheseaux (18th century) astronomical findings. It is correct that this is a span of 2300 years from the issuing of the decree. Once you have read that, then pick up a book by E.W. Bullinger 'Witness of the Stars' reading the last chapter. Bullinger was a ultra dispensationalist. His book reveals as do many other books on the gospel in the stars conclude the story ending in the constellation Leo. With use of the Stellarium star atlas you can view Leo and its main star Regulus greeting autumn colure. The Autumn Colure is the point in the sky where the ecliptic and the celestial equator meet.
This event completes another 2300 year solar-lunar cycle (Daniel cycle as de Chesheaux describes) from the "the Great Disappointment" from the Fall of 1843. In Bullinger's book shares the star-lore of Leo the Lion will ROAR, destroying that serpent of old. The serpent is Hydra that is underneath Leo. What I see happen here is the fall of 1843 is the event of the time of end leading up to the 'end of time' when the lion of Judah will 'crush the head of the serpent'. This was a discovery for me back in March of 2017. For the bible student concluding the 2300 prophetic time as literal days. Surely those four empires could not of fallen into such a time. Bullinger's book tries to reconcile the two thoughts of literal time and the day for a year understanding in prophecy. He was a believer in Jesus the Christ without bias to Miller himself. be blessed for the time is nigh. Michael
That would be light given much later to the church he had no clue.
Yeah, I think that he was onto some drugs.
For me to believe you i would have to tell myself the Word of God is incomplete and non-conclusive, and will ask God why He did not even give a hint about the solar lunar and the autumnal equinox and everything else you are talking about. It takes more faith to believe that than what the Word has already revealed so clearly, with evidence. Surely the Word is spiritually discerned. Sincerest Prayers for you
@@tonymuse takes 1 to know 1????
I am searching for information on how Oct 22 1844 was Day of Atonement, when the Jew's calendar says Sept 23 was the Day of Atonement in 1844?
Jeremiah, here's the info. type in - william H shea / biblical research institute and open first heading then scroll down to - when did 70 weeks of daniel 9 begin
if you have a problem talk to local seventh-day adventist pastor
I think Willian shea did a book on that topic, so if you go on line and search for that topic you should find it. I had it but my computer crashed and I lost all my files. But the SDA church would provide it if you contact the General conference...or write this speaker at - secrets unsealed...which is his ministry....hope this helps but it was Oct 22 1844
@@DavidKing-qd3sp SDA pastors only know what they are taught by their church. Some of it is true, others are false beliefs.
Don't go to any pastor. Read the Bible, it's all there.
1844 had no prophetic significance.
See Hebrews, clearly Jesus Christ's crussifiction and resurection was the Day of Attonement . Not 1844.
@@July-A7 the day of atonement happened at the end of every year so you are confused about 1844...study more
I will NEVER understand how Miller and Adventists today can imply ignore What Gabriel told Daniel:
Daniel 8:21 The shaggy goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the large horn that is between his eyes is the first king. 22 The broken horn and the four horns that arose in its place represent four kingdoms which will arise from his nation, although not with his power.
23 “In the latter period of their rule,
When the transgressors have run their course,
A king will arise,
Insolent and skilled in intrigue.
This little horn arose during the latter period of divided Greece which was before the Roman Empire rose to power. Daniel 8 had absolutely nothing to do with 1844.
Of course. 1844 has no prophetic value whatsoever.
And we know from the book of Hebrews that what Jesus did at His crucifixion, resurection and what He is doing now , was symbolised by the service at the Day of Atonement.
Simple and clear!
Tony M haha you didn’t watch the video
@@kingjamesl I read the Bible and take it for what it says, not what I would like it to say.
@@July-A7 Jesus CRUCIFIXION was the Lamb offering, not atonement! The result of that perfect offering is the Atonement, which is the cleansing of the sanctuary by the High Priest. It is a step by step process, they dont happen all at the same time. And before the Atonement which happens in the holiest place, the High Priest has to go to the Holy Place first. I suggest you study the sanctuary more closely.
@@ggo6610 thanks for your suggestion, brother, but you are mistaken. You follow SDA and they are the only once who do not understand the Old testament sanctuary service, neither what happened on the cross, let alone what Jesus did when he went up in heaven and been doing since.
It's all in the Bible. Hebrews is very clear on it. Also parts of Romans and other texts.
In short, the old sanctuary services were all symbolising the greatest event in the universe, the real Day of Atonement. All sanctuary services with all sanctuary objects represented the ministry of Jesus for the salvation of people. This salvation plan culminates at the cross.
The services in the Holy place represented the faith in the coming Saviour. It was never meant that Christ would repeat these services till 1844, contrary to SDA's erroneous claims.
Jesus was our lamb and out high priest. When He sacrificed Himself, he went up in heaven in God's presence, which was simbolised by the high priest gong in the Most Holy place once a year behind the curtain. The curtain simbolised Jesus own flesh. The bread and candle lights and censor also simbolised Christ.
The sanctuary services were fulfilled in Jesus, hence He cried at the cross "It is finished".
Salvation of people was finished, it was wrought out, completed. It was secured. Satan became the defeated enemy.
Since His ascention, Jesus has been reinstated as God, sitting at the right hand of God and those who are saved have access to the Father through Jesus, who intercedes for us.
He will stand up and leave the Heavenly sanctuary one day when the time of probation is over and come back to earth to take His people.
Let's keep discussions civilised, please. God bless!
You never hear Adventist pastors talk about the Feast of Dedication (a.k.a Hanukkah) in John 10:22-23, what it means and its origins, because there's a clear connection between Daniel 8:14 and that passage in John 10:22-23.
If Jesus was there at Solomon's Temple to celebrate Hanukkah (circa 30-33AD when John 10:22-23 took place) and Hanukkah was instituted after Judas Maccabeus cleansed and restored the temple in 165BC after the defilement by Antiochus IV Epiphanes (fufilling the prophecy in Daniel 8:14 that the sanctuary would be cleansed after Antiochus LITERAL 2300 day reign of defiling the temple ended), why would Jesus need to go back to heaven and cleanse a "sanctuary" in 1844 that had already been cleansed more than 2000 years earlier?
Every year in December, when you see Jews around the world celebrate Hannukah, they disprove SDA's 1844 Sanctuary nonsense as applying to an imaginary event in heaven that never took place.
Adventism's foundation doctrine and Ellen White's prophetic influence is completely destroyed once you understand the connection between the real meaning of Daniel 8:14 and John 10:22-23. Imaging basing your church on a prophecy that is......wait for it......2008 YEARS OFF (165BC vs 1844AD)? What a joke!
Isnt it the same Jews that rejected Jesus???
Jesus rejected Jews Nation for rejecting Him as their Saviour. And thereafter, Jesus rejected the large group of people who rejected the Advent message, written by EGW. You rejected this message, will not Jesus reject you also?
@@farwestgarohills3831 wow where in the Bible that says JESUS rejected anyone? you must be reading a different bible.
@@ggo6610 You did not believe me which I told you the words of God came trough the mouth of His prophet. Punishment will be the same as the punishment of Jews for the rejection of Christ and His law. You will see yourself without cloth when the bridegroom comes.
Judas Maccabeus was the one who cleansed the sanctuary???? Wow , you are not only way off, you are heading the opposite direction.
please read about the Baha'i Faith and know Christ has bee here on010/22. 1844 in Iran.
Mt 24: 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; BELIEVE IT NOT. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Rev 1: 7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”and “EVERY EYE will see him..."
1844 is enshrouded with a lot of doubts, but if you study the Word like what 2Tim 2:15 says, one will discern and confirm it, it is one of those that STRENGTHENS YOUR FAITH knowing that the Lord, in HIs Revelation, and in HIs generosity showed us His plan is coming true... and it will never fail. Let us pray for each other.
BE GROUNDED ON TRUTH, hold on to it and share it..... "TRUTH IS VIOLATED BY LIES, BUT IS OUTRAGED BY SILENCE."
God never fails but SDA failed miserably! Instead of moving forward after the Great disappointment, they chose to continue with a perpetual lie for a century and decades and continuing, thus making themselves to be the false prophet of Revelation. All churches and people who claim to speak on God's behalf yet teach false doctrines, are the second beast of Rev 13, that is, the false prophet.
@@July-A7 On the contrary, the remnants actually moved forward to study the Word more and had enough courage to say that the sanctuary is not the earth itself. But wait, were not the disciples also had a misconception about how Jesus will claim His kingdom? They did even contend with each other for the ranking and positions right? Thomas even doubted the rising up of Jesus though HE told them about it. Did they stop because of their misconception? Or did they continue To grow in faith and understanding? And yes there were also mockers in their days. Now I hope you see the parallels.
FYI: there were NO SDAs YET in 1844. How so convenient to abandon the idea of 1844 and start anew, but no, they chose the right way!
But when you have failed to discern that my questions are rhetorical in the other thread, that tells me something. Have you wondered what "sweet in the mouth, bitter in the stomach means? I WILL STILL PRAY FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
@@July-A7 Ran out of good arguments? Indeed the LORD DID NOT EXTERMINATE THE DEVIL BUT DEFEATED HIM WHEN HE EXPOSED HIS LIES. I hope you can muster enough courage to say you are wrong. I rest my case.
@@ggo6610 it is clear and i agree
@g go,
The only parallel that exists is that once the disciples realised their error, they converted and lived and died serving our Lord. Unlike SDA, who continued to spread lies and refuses to accept that they are wrong.
William Miller was right- Spirit of Christ did indeed return to the earth in 1844 as he predicted. Please watch THE MILLER PREDICTION on TH-cam. Millions of Baha'is around the world believe that BAHA'U'LLAH ( The Glory of God ) is the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. They are presently teaching His message of Unity of Mankind and World Peace in 200 countries Also watch the documentary "World Peace - A Baha'i Vision" on TH-cam.
Bingo...
Bahai is a religion created by Jesuits. You know, Bahai is the religion of United Nation? Who runs UN? It is the Jesuits who runs it from the back door.
All these non-Adventist watched the video because the title says "disappointment SDA" haha they watched it because they thought the video was gonna bash the sda church. Sorry to disappoint you. I can tell that all these comments were written by people who didn't watch the video (why would they)
The truth is that this is not about the sda church. What's important is knowing the truth. Many of you posting and commenting have never studied the Bible for yourselves but rather listened to the believes of others such as preachers and parents. Here are a few facts for those who do not know about the sda church.
Fact #1 We do not worship Ellen white, nor put her writings ahead of the Bible.
#2 the sda church did not exist in 1844, it was started after the disappointment.
#3 this 1844 disappointment consist of Christians from all different denominations
#4 the sda church was started by those who went back to the Bible to discover the truth about the great disappointment and why the error was made.
#5 the Bible talks about the great disappointment(misinterpretation of the book of daniel)in revelation 10.
#6 it is not a sin to keep the 10 commandments
#7 the millerites did not get the date wrong, they got the event wrong.
#8 NOT even ONE of you so called "bible scholars" commenting on here have read and understood the book of revelations.
#9 sda are baptized in Christ and believe in the Bible and the Bible alone, so by your believes we are already saved and perfected so why are you bad mouthing other saved Christian rather then opening your ears to hear if what we are saying is the truth?
#10 the day will come when the blurred lines of Christianity will be apparent and visible, but like those who didn't get into the ark it will be too late cause the doors of probation will be closed. Jesus said it clearly and plainly.
#11 Jesus also said he would give us the spirit of Elijah to help guide us in the last days. He couldn't be talking about Paul because Paul's writing existed long before the end days. So we are in the last days, where is the spirit of Elijah to guide us? And don't tell me it's Mrs. Aunty baker at your church that's always prophesying about what the weather is going to be like or who you should marry or not. This spirit of Elijah is on a global scale just as the competing spirit of Jezebel is on a global scale.
STOP defending and arguing on what you've merely heard and start seeking answers for yourselves. Read the Bible for real. Stop reading just selecting scriptures and books of the Bible. You don't do that with movies or your favorite Netflix series. You watch all episodes to better understand the story.
heeveho 👍🏼
@heeveho. To understand the Bible, it’s way better if pastors are historians too. How would you know that the little horn that was wounded, was when Napoleon’s man, Berthier, took the Pope prisoner? In my part of the world, no preachers had ever given any explanation of the prophecies. It’s the same thing in Canada-America, then, 1 day, watching some snowy channel in Guyana, a few preachers from the USA, I think, after very long years of frustration, explained a lot of the prophecies. Smting I’ve waited for all my life. This has renewed my interest in the Bible like never before. It’s like wiping the sweat from your forehead with your thumb thinking, I almost didn’t get to know all these, bcuz a lot of people have gone vertical permanently without knowing a large part of the book that they went to church for all their life. You can actually connect major past n future events to the Bible (almost all the explanations are buried under parables so u need a solid knowledge of history, n major brain cells to understand it all. Congrats to all the white Protestants pastors, I guess non-white preachers aren’t much fans of white history for good reasons that we all know). Sometime, it’s necessary to dump the church, n travel far n wide, to find what u need. If u ever wondered why some ppl, n particularly “important” people, are against the Bible, it’s bcuz the good book is telling the world about the evil 👿 plan of the wicked.
You have been badly deceived.
William Miller on whose movement the SDA was built and whom Ellen White proclaimed was a great messenger of God, disobeyed scripture about setting a day for the return of the Lord,
3 times to boot, and then admitted that he had been wrong.
He did not accept the message of the Seventh Day Adventists, as a real messenger of God would if it was the true outworking of the Advent Movement.
Miller totally botched biblical interpretation by saying that the Sanctuary of Daniel 8:14 was the earth; a suggestion that has absolutely nothing to support it.
The Millerite Advent movement and it's message, which Mrs White says was the Midnight Cry, never even reached the whole of the U.S., far less the whole of the inhabited earth, which Christ promised would happen before He comes, so we have another major error, just overlooked like it means nothing, by Ellen and the SDA church.
Since they believed that the Millerite message was the Midnight Cry, just prior to the 2nd Coming , the Shut Door Adventists, who became the SDA in 1863, had a few more expected years and disappointments ( they did not set a day this time).
In her later years, Mrs White again prophesied that His Coming would be very soon, before the youth present could get old and have kids of their own.
When this did not happen , she blamed Christ not showing up on the SDA members for not being in right standing and preaching the 3 Angel's Messages to the world.
We are now more than 174 years removed from that failed prophecy, and many still think the Millerite Movement was of God and that those who rejected it, correctly, as error , were the ones in the wrong and rejected by God. That is what your prophetess Ellen White taught.
The whole thing is a tragic comedy.
heeveho. You Got It In One.🕊👍
@@thenowchurch6419FYI: there were NO SDAs YET in 1844. How so convenient to abandon the idea of 1844 and start anew, but no, they chose to study the Word closely and chose the right way!
On the contrary, the remnants actually moved forward to study the Word more and had enough courage to say that the sanctuary is not the earth itself. But wait, were not the disciples also had a misconception about how Jesus will claim His kingdom? They did even contend with each other for the ranking and positions right? Thomas even doubted the rising up of Jesus though HE told them about it. Did they stop because of their misconception? Or did they continue To grow in faith and understanding? And yes there were also mockers in their days. Now I hope you see the parallels.
Btw, Paul has been preaching that Jesus coming is soon, so Ellen White is not alone in that. I think you are the one who has been deceived. I will pray for you.
Study Daniel7, 8 and 9, the 7 churches specifically Philadelphia, The sanctuary, REvelation they connect and says it all. This one is a quick answer but details will take you hours .. @. If you sincerely do look for answers then pray first for understanding for these things are spiritually discerned that's what the bible says.
so Jesus isn't God?
He is the One real God
Unfortunately, instead of William Miller simply admitting that he had misapplied the day/year principle in his predicting Jesus' return in 1843/1844 , they simply rolled it into a fictitious event ignoring the fact that Jesus has been in the most holy place ever since He ascended into heaven. This theory of Miller's also rejects the idea that Jesus' work of atonement was finished at the cross. The entire book of Daniel can be summed up in the Daniel 2:20-22:
_Daniel said, “Let the name of God be blessed forever and ever, For wisdom and power belong to Him. “It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men And knowledge to men of understanding. “It is He who reveals the profound and hidden things; He knows what is in the darkness, And the light dwells with Him._
This book is about the setting up and removal of kingdoms culminating with the coming of Jesus Christ who is the rock who's kingdom is eternal. It is so sad to see SDA's totally turn their back on fulfilled prophecy in order to perpetuate a horrible misinterpretation of scripture.
The prophecies of Daniel 8 and Daniel 9 have nothing to do with each other contextually. Chapter 9 concerns the Jews returning from exile, rebuilding the temple, a designated period for finishing up transgression and sacrifice, the coming of the Messiah, Him being crucified and the eventual destruction of the temple which Jesus talked about in the Olivet discourse. Chapter 8 is all contained within the empires of Media-Persia and Greece/divided Greece. The little horn comes from one of the four horns and comes in the later period of their (divided Greece) rule as stated in verse 23. Rome never was part of the Greek Empire so this cannot apply to the pope or Rome.
Blessings!
Tony M good work very well written and tell ing the truth if the new testament good news gospel
“Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth- to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people-“saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”
Revelation 14:6,7. I assume you believe in the three angels message. If you read Revelation 13 and 14 you can see that judgment comes after the 42 months (1260 years) which ended in 1798. The 2300 day prophecy beautifully harmonizes with the 1st angels message in Revelation 14.
@ЕС,you are wrong.
Go over my comments above and you'll find out.
There is no prophecy for 2300 years in the Bible.
@@July-A7 your bible must be missing daniel 8:14, and the others....tsk
if that is so, when does the 2300 -days starts? and is chapter 9 related to any chapters in daniel contextually?
Adventist prophetic preachers always sound like used car salesmen trying super hard to convince you to buy that lemon.
A truth does not need that much human rhetoric ,shoehorning and sophistry.
on the contrary, there are a lot of converts to adventism that need not go to "salesmen" as you termed, but by carefully studying the Word of God. Funny how you can just conclude without showing the basis of your conclusion... that is called libel... sharing knowledge is not selling just in case you missed it.
VERY WRONG PLEASE DONT TRY TO PATCH THE HOLES PLEASE..
what is wrong?
Another sda standup comic . All sda preachers repeat the same joke by their god ellen white lie from her great book the great comedy. 1844 and the investigative jugdement are their pillars, without them their cult will fall, but they are lies. while reading her book i could'nt help laughing, hence i call it the great comedy. But seriously this is what the true GOD and my FATHER says, not from ellen but from the kjv. Heb ch10 vs 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrafice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of GOD: see where he is? and vs14 says For by one offering he had perfected for ever them that are santified.When you are born again you are perfected for ever, And this is what happens to you after you get saved. Eph1 vs13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed ye were sealed {confirmed} with that holy Spirit of promise and vs 14 Which is the earnest {pledge} of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. There is no IJ and 1844 crap. Now i suggest all you sda people get saved and find a bible believing church and forget that witch ellen with her badly blurred visions.
I personally don't worship Ellen. Unlike Catholics that pray to idols of Mary. Breaking the 10 Commandments...
what part made you laugh??? where does it say that SDAs worship EGW? If you can not answer that then you are a pathetic LIAR!
You are so wrong my friend you are a denier of true that is so clear.
which part is funny, mockers of truth.
It seemed you got mixed up with justification and sanctification.... judgment even if you use just your common sense calls for it... but the bible clearly talks about it. use concordance see how many times it was talked about.that is if you really want to know the TRUTH. if not then i can only offer a prayer for you. Revelations message to Philadelphia talks about key of david... see what it means (Is 22:22, 9:6-7) and the bible alone will tell you. I hope studying the Bible will help you with your character as well, as Mt chapter 7 says... Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.