Repeat Caller | "Andrew" | Atheist Experience 21.20
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- The Atheist Experience 21.20 for May 21, 2017 with Matt Dillahunty, Tracie Harris, and Chris Johnson.
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After several calls he still hasn't realised he's dealing with people that are more intelligent than he is.
he really should get the hint; he's been dealing with people more intelligent than he is since birth
Are you kidding me? Please, are you trying to defend the indefensible. When I see that my morals are of a higher standard than the proposed God you know we're in trouble. Today mass murderers are incarcerated and, or executed. This is Manson family stuff.
@@TheSnoeedog I think it's a poe or simply what Tracie's called "Jaq-ing off" (Just asking questions). Dude doesn't actually differ in opinion, he's simply there to restate that IF YOU CAN'T KNOW ONE THING, YOU CAN'T KNOW ANYTHING which at it's core is goddamn dishonest and explicitly deceitful.
The Dunning-Krueger effect on full display.
nah he's just a troll or he thinks he is, you're right though he always ends up with Matt flaeing him live on tv
I'll never understand why repeat callers use different names.
Such dishonesty already signals the person's intentions from the outset.
also demonstrates ,how religious indoctrination warps the mind ;almost irreparably
When your position is so far removed from reality that the only way to defend it is to try and attack the very concept of reality itself....
There is no other way for the religions to have any form of success without trying to make people doubt that reality is real. It is actually all they ever do.
Whenever he comes back with a different name, he should also bring a different argument.
Don Polk You are asking far to much of the crazy man. Have pitty.
There arent to many arguements he can bring
Peter is correct, there are a small number of arguments that can be made. Christians are hampered greatly by their take it or leave it dogma.....
@@JohnMorris-ge6hq *too
@@peterriverajr6899 *too
12:09 - Matt: "Do you believe that myself, Tracie, and Chris are sitting here doing a show...?"
"Josh": After a pregnant pause, a very tentative "Yes".
You see, these are difficult questions for a christian, but they know the origin of the universe. I find that fascinating. And he apparently does not know his own name, either.
Because he is not actually trying to prove his side he is trying to “ falsify their position” so he doesn’t want to say anything (whether he believes it or not) to weaken his chance of doing so.
@@dontimberman5493 I wonder how he would reply if he was told that "I don't have to prove that my pen writes, all I have to do is to falsify that your pens don't write"
@@sfprivateer right! Probably just say how ridiculous that is while missing the irony.
Also because he has made his self worth equal to not getting trapped or being wrong. Real adults approach these conversations honestly and real skeptics want to be wrong. Either way he's dishonest.
Because he's trying to gotcha them and he's twisting himself into a pretzel trying to make sure that he doesn't get gotcha'ed instead. He's not answering honestly, he's answering in a way to further his disingenuous argument
The guy in the middle looks like he's been kidnapped.
He doesn't even look like he's there. Looks Photoshoped. 😂
@@antithings maybe he's god!
He's the coffee boy at Dunkin Donuts in Austin where the guys hang out now and again.
Bring your kid to work day
dookdawg214 Oh great! You just had to tell everyone didn't you?...Didn't you?! If Matt gets $20 000 USD the guy will be let go.
I love how Matt is able to see the element of the argument and discuss that instead of being distracted by the chaff. He is so good at seeing the components.
He’s a very smart man.
I've never seen anyone try so hard to prove that they're crazy.
This must be the first episode of "The Atheist Experience" you've ever watched.
Im giggling hahaha
McLovin is a persistent caller
SO GLAD someone else hears this too! He sounds JUST like McLovin.
HA! 😅 I can't believe I didn't catch that. Spot on!🤣🤣
Thought this instantly! So funny.
Made my day, thanks!
"Andrew" is the kinda person that is so in love with their perceived intelligence that they think anything they think of that seems profound, must be, in fact, profound.
In reality, he argued himself into a corner to the point where now he has the dilemma of 'everything is real if you experience it or nothing is real' as the two options. This was such kindergarten, bad reasoning just for the sake of being right that I can't even believe an adult could have made this argument.
I miss Traci’s stellar communication, though Shannon Q is absolutely killing it right now.
This guys proof is basically; "I have this good feeling when I believe in God, so it must be true!"
They're addicted!
I’m so happy being an atheist
I have been over 65 years ............ ( = 65+ years ) ...............
Yeah it's all bullshit man made stories when you are dead your dead sad but true...
Thank God for that
Praise the lord.
@@brentrollens8090 Prais facts and science. More like
I am king of the universe. It's true because I have a feeling it's true.
Im king of the northern universe,
and i know nothing!
I bow down to you oh great King of the Universe.
Lol. There isn't a universe. We are actually floating inside adele's ass in the quantum realm of juju
How silly, I am of course be the king and so far no proof has been given to me to prove me wrong in my mind.
And Josh is fingernails on a blackboard.
Praise be to the King of the Entire Universe (except the northern part)! Please grant me intergalactic goblin servants so I may spread your word to the stars!
Presup: "Is the goal to have as few properly basic beliefs, itself a properly basic belief?"
Matt: "You're done."
Thank GOD. These people are always so disingenuous. They put up a façade that they're honestly interested in finding out the truth, when in reality, all they're interested in is confusing their opponent with nonsense so that they can say "gotcha!"
It seems it's the caller's that fall victim to the "gotcha".
@@brentrollens8090 Bingo.
This tool calls all the time, and starts off the same way every time.
hes probably some little butt hurt christian that sits in his basement trying to use his nerd brain to prove his religion and stump Matt
And he does NOT know when he ought to stop/ when he is DEFEATED ! ...........
I cant the compilation of everytime he calls. Can anyone help with that?
I wish these guys had been around years ago to help me come to understand that a feeling I had was likely not what i interpreted it to be. Got there eventually though.
Daniel Garcia search for “Andrew” who has called in as Brad Adam and Josh and who knows what other names.
The unicorn line of questioning is great and caller is just sputtering and blathering trying to find a way out of the trap.
I realized I was an atheist at about 12 years old. I noticed every sunday the preacher would tell his little story (parable)
That always related to the message he was about to give. You could tell the story was made up and never really happened. So I started to think that if their going to lie and make up a BS story about such a little thing, then how much are they lying and bullshitting about the big things. I was done at that point.
You want to know what really got me at that same age? It sounds stupid, but for a 11-12 year old in the early nineties it was super profound.
I was at this church camp thing very reminiscent of a Boy Scout like group meeting, and this guy gave a sermon after dinner. Since we were all young people there this guy decided to give the sermon on how anything that takes your focus away from God is evil. It didn't matter what you thought of it being good or bad. If you thought about it instead of God, it was evil.
Now, had he stopped there, I maybe wouldn't have put 2 and 2 together nor had the reaction I did, but he gave examples, and one of those examples piased me off and made the questions I already had go into high gear.
He gave a few, but the examples he gave that struck me were what he called the "Pooper Rangers" and the "Teeny Neutered Mutant turtles."
So I'm 11-12 in 1994-95. The HEIGHT of the Power Rangers and Turtlemania,. I had a rough childhood, and I really retreated in my Fandom for both. They were my only salvation when shit was hard. If they could overcome the bad things when it was hard, then so could I....and he's saying they're evil.
As a kid, that made no sense to me. How could they be evil. They FOUGHT evil.
Like I said, it sounds stupid, but for me at that age, it really struck me in a very hard place. I already had questions that pastors and such couldn't answer or would say, "You will understand when you're older." Combine that with insulting the only joy I had in my life by calling it evil, and that speech began my journey in a real way.
@@Mewse1203 Amen.
I asked my brother's daughter (just turn four) if she's seen a unicorn and she replied "Not yet".
Sounds like an honest answer. She hasn't subscribed to the belief that there are no unicorns because there is no proof to demonstrate that claim.
I didn't not see a unicorn either, So yeah. Checkmate. Fucking Athedumbs!
A 4 year old, seriously. She gave a decent answer for a single individual with no life experience compared to billions of people over thousands of years.
@@Cat_Magic811 dang so u saw a unicorn then?
How's your niece unicorn based sect going?
Tracy is an awesome human being
The mindset of folks like the caller is, "I deny reality and insert my own, then without evidence I expect everyone around me to believe my reality is the true reality". This by definition is self induced mental illness, and the the can lead to the very anxiety, depression, and other symptoms, caused by the chemical emballances and other issues that underly what we usually consider mental illnesses.
Social Media Meham No argument there.
Matt would shut you down so hard. Religion is as much delusional mental illness as political views or sports fanaticism.
Stop using the concept of mental illness and equating religion with it. It can in fact lead to inducing or worsening mental illness but religion itself does not a mental illness make because that requires specific clinical criteria. Religions can also be a positive against mental illness, although the particulars of the religions are not necessarily the benefitting aspect and you can get there secularly. Psychologists are more expensive than priests though.
It’s this nonsense that makes atheists look bad... and insults mental illness’ seriousness, which I care more about.
These people hear the voice in their head that is their inner voice and arrogantly call it "God".
When everyone knows it's called Cyrilla.
Yeah good sounds just like me in my head.
@@181521815266 what?
@@chinatype2bassrocker809 God spell check changed it to good
Shhh they must not know that God is just their ego
Lying to get on the show.......very Christian of him.
In what part of the video did he state that he was a christian?
Nate Miller he’s called in multiple times but changes his name and location.
I have a feeling that he's a unicorn.
@@russellward4624 i have watched the video several times and I don't notice that he calls more than 1 time. Is it just terribly edited?
@@emilengen7825
He calls in on different episodes. Different videos.
He also phoned in as Brad. It’s a bit disingenuous of him to lie about his identity. He’s not even following his own magic man in the sky’s commandments.
He's phoned in as Brad nick Alex Andrew and another
He's an idiot
@@thickerconstrictor9037 Really? If he's a believer and he has no doubt he's wrong, why should he have a whole list of false names to use when he calls in? I mean, I don't doubt you're telling the truth, I just don't understand why he thinks he needs to use false names. If he's a believer, I would think he would be proud of it and proud to use his own, real name. Something's really off about this guy. Maybe he has multiple personality disorder. If that's the case, he should at least make it interesting by having each personality believe in a different god. ;)
@@jrasicmark1 I use MY OWN NAME ! ....... This Idiot does NOT .........
Ralf Häggström good for you! Your point?
I believe in Tracie's smile!
Yes, but only because you can detect and measure it. You are clearly a scientific materialist when it comes to Tracie's smile, but how about Matt's beard? Huh? You don't believe in that, do you? You are obviously atheist about Matt's beard.
Believe in the Transcendent Beard of Knowledge!
@wobbly nostrils , no, there was a redundant "a" there. "Your genius - mind came up with something nice"
God works in mysterious ways
What an intelligent, beautiful lady.
Josh is a smart-alecky but INSINCERE caller. It's a good thing Matt saw thru the charade of this snarky annoying pretender.
You feel there is a God? I feel you are wrong.
The moment you feel there is a god , you need to stop taking drugs !
Lol
I know you are right
It's astounding how many believers can't give a clear, concise, and instantaneous answer to how they justify their belief in God. Notice that when atheists are asked how they justify their disbelief they don't have to tap-dance around the question, tell an autobiography, or go off on an epistemological tangent. If you can't give an immediate, well thought out response then you haven't adequately thought about it enough and don't care whether your beliefs are actually true. They aren't being asked to justify Coke being better than Pepsi..they're being asked to justify a belief that they ostensibly organize their life around.
Great comment
Religion: The worship of a subjective experience of reality reinforced by shared delusion.
I believe the likelihood of there being a god is so remote that if I were actually presented by god, I would know I'd lost my mind.
When I was a child, I had lots of friends and their fathers, like mine, could do amazing things.
So it seemed logical that somebody's father made the universe.
The pastor at my Church thought so too.
But when grew up, i realised it was a silly idea.
Your one famous caller 'Andrew'
had different names and call
locations , such as ---
Josh from Buffalo NY
Alex from Colorado
Nick from Oregon
Brad from Colorado
Adam from West Virginia
Lucas from New York
that guy seems to really get around
I just want to let everyone know that I was remodeling my bathroom when this episode aired. My bathroom has held up better than Andrews’ arguments.
The guy in the middle is a glove puppet worked by Tracie
kernowarty Hey I've seen great videos of that particular practice on pornhub!
Oh my
Morpheus: "you think that's air your breathing?"
And Josh/ Andrew is the reason why aliens don't come and visit and we haven't cured cancer.
This guy is a clear example of Dunning Kruger.
Belief in God isn't properly basic anymore than belief in trolls.
Jesus is Satan
As soon as you realize that a caller is arguing disingenuously, the call needs to immediately end. And it immediately became apparent right before Matt hung up.
This Andrew always starts out his argument with "I wanted to ask why you don't believe in a god?" it's strange...
It is just an excuse to start with his usual parade of arguments
he’s an idiot you can’t take him seriously...
I’ve been told that “your intellect gets in the way or your faith in god.” Mental gymnastics at its finest.
He started with the exact same question every every million times he called. You'd think he would've understood the answer by now.
So dense one could use the caller to shield from the hardest gamma rays.
Not even core of stars are that dense
This dude a fucking magnetar
Andrew??? Or... yeah it's him.
Tracys smirk is amazing! I just can't get tired of looking at it.
When you watch so much AXP and you can instantly recognize voices.... They must be able to as well.....
This boy is sadly disturbed, if he keeps on calling with different names and the same argument.
This guy had a hard time answering simple questions. If his god existed he wouldn't need to get on a call-in show.
That's why real Christians can't even think rationally and/or logically and also because they live in an imaginary world and in a different reality.
Jesus is Satan
@@NetTubeUser ..... Jesus is Satan
Good point.
He's basically saying that because we cant have certainty about anything all beliefs are equal. It's another atheists have faith too position.
Yep! “I’m gullible but so are you” very typical 🙄
It has came to the point that they're literally admitting that their claim is nothing more then a claim.
The old “that’s what you are so what am I?” kindergarten argument .
The dishonesty of presuppositional apologetics.
The Christians want you to believe in god because it makes them feel good.
Rodney Settle How dare you mock Christians! That is cruel and unfair and - Oh wait...You are poking fun at the Jesus cult? Sorry, my mistake, please continue.
@Rodney Settle are you saying that only applies to Christians? some people who were raised to fear hell and the devil find great comfort in atheism. what's wrong with that?
@Benjamin Tarrant you completely misread my comment
Some believe it bc the believe in hell and heaven and are terrified of hell.
07:23 Caller "I'm not trying to make you angry"
Matt "I'm not angry"
Caller "You will be if I carry on"
Don't make Matt angry, you wouldn't like Matt if you make him angry....
Oh, let's all walk on egg shells so Matt doesn't get angry.
@@davesteadman1226 I was saying that as it reminded me of the old TV show "The Hulk"...David Bannon, don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...if Matt gets angry dealing with fools like this caller then so be it, the caller is being dishonest.
@@frogstamper Bruce Banner (not David Bannon)
“Josh” always sounds like he’s on the verge of tears. Maybe he’s beginning to realize he doesn’t have any good arguments.😭
If you are reduced to a stammering mess when asked to simply explain your most basic beliefs and basil assumptions, you don't have a good foundation for your claims.
"This is how you play tennis without the net." - Sam Harris
what Christians don't understand is that among many gods, their god is not the god of humanity but the god of the Jews, Christians just adopted him and wrote a new book, tweaking it here and there, changing the cards on the table and called it the new testament. In reality he was the god of the Jews, again not of humanity, the fact is that he was concerned ONLY about the Jews, and couldn't care less about everyone else in the world.
Callers should have a requirement to hit puberty before being able to argue the existence of god!
"You'll probably get angry if I keep talking". At least he knows he's not rational.
People like this have never been in pain. It's easy to pretend reality doesn't exist when you have no contact with it.
"a feeling called unicorn"
“The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility, and vice versa.”
- Robert A. Heinlein
"What makes you think that feeling is a god, and not just a feeling."
"I don't know"
You know... if he would answer that too more questions in life, I think he would be a lot better off. Admitting a lack of knowledge is the first step in gaining said knowledge.
The "how you know" question seems to always stump them, and never have I heard a response yet that actually attempts to answer it.
Because they are afraid to say. "I don't know", because if they say that, it makes them an agnostic theist.
Our known senses such as touch and sound can be demonstrated and tested how they work, so demonstrate how this 'special sensory ability' of yours you're claiming to have exists or works.
Wait a minute..."Josh" aka "Andrew"? If he's a proud believer, why should he have a secret identity?
"I hear God" that makes me different.
"I believe the earth is flat that makes me smart.
Just a thought, but i think some theists completely misunderstand the question "Do you care whether what you believe is true ?", all they hear is "Do you care whether god exists ?" and clearly they do. However they put the emphasis on the "what you believe" not on the "is it true" part.
Brad/Andrew/Alex never learns.
Dude flipped from an honest conversation to pulling a Sye Ten right at the end.
This poor caller got hung up on ontology even though he never heard that word in his life. Read and THINK before you spout son.
I didn't have invisible friends when I was a kid and I still don't have any. All praise to the great omnipotent unicorn (his name is Bert by the way).
Blasphemer. The great omnipotent unicorn's name is Doug.
You can't handle the truth but your eyes will be opened on the final day when Bert comes to judge us for our rainbow drawings, he will be focusing on use of the colour orange and the details there in,for that is where he dwells. There will be prizes given out, like ribbons and muffins but only for the true believers and maybe even some beers for those old enough (lemonade for the kids). Those without drawings or crap attempts at ones are going to be sent to the naughty step for ever and ever. All hail Bert. Amen.
MadMike I’m a Bert-ist!
I love Bert. I definitely feel him like Josh-Andrew feels his god so I know he's real. But Bert the unicorn wins over god. He's way cooler and Bert doesn't have hellfires where he throws people that he's upset with into a burning lake of fire. Bert is more chill and just meh 🤷 on whether or not people worship him. Really doesn't matter if people worship him because he knows he's cool regardless if people worship him.
The vocal fry is strong with this one.
Religious folk say 'Everybody elses brains are flawed, but my brain isn't. That's how I experience 'truth' and they can't. My proof is that their brains don't agree with mine.'
I have this feeling of extreme frustration with theistic callers. I’ve become more atheistic with every single call as a result.
Logic and reason are the candy Satan uses to lure people to him. To be a good Christian you should strive to be illogical and unreasonable. 2nd Mark, 29 v6.
I recently got the latest reality upgrade. "Josh/Andrew" has been deleted from this reality, he was malfunctioning.
I believe I will go to the bar and purchase another beer. 🍻 Cheers from across the pond! UK
I really wanna thank Andrew, Josh, Brad, Alex and all his fake names for opening my eyes and thanks to him I am now an Atheist.
"god is a properly basic belief" is just "because i said so"
Stacy does it again. Feelings do not inform us about the outside world. Feelings do not give us anything beyond OUR personal reaction to outside stimulus. I once had one of those mystical experiences but realized it was my emotions that left the impression. I would get into trouble when I thought the feelings had somehow been put in me from "god", rather than realizing it was my feelings, as good as they felt, that I was trying to use to discover "truth". Those feelings could tell me nothing but how I was reacting to the outside world.
Jon Erickson that's great. Now, who is Stacey?
Thank you AE for shining a light on mental illness
Josh.... The king of tap dancing
My question is: When the name changed from "Josh" to "Josh" aka "Andrew" at 3:27 ....what happened? Did the people on the back end just realise or recognise his voice?
The aliens are like, "This is actually a problem needed to be talked about on Earth? How primitive." I'm inclined to agree. I'm not saying it's not a topic that we as humans need to debate, but I find religion to be a primitive and unneeded thing.
I’ll admit I’m still on the fence on this topic, but BOY is it refreshing hearing people use logic and common sense for a change. These are clearly intelligent people with good hearts. Interesting conversation no doubt
Matt is my goddddd!!! The man of reason and logic...
OMG would be awesome if u guys edited in a moving unicorn image in the background or something.
I have a feeling the caller needs medication.
letting this god go and maybe he will get better
I have a feeling he needs a massive slap
Hopefully it's just a phase. He just seems in that phase of trying to use logic to outsmart any counter of his desire to feel a connection to his idea of God
I think he’s taking too much.
You can sense the moment of realization when he knows he's backed into a corner.
Excellent logical debunk of the common apologetic that "just because something [reality] isn't 100% proveable, therefore that's just the same as my faith". The caller tries to equalize two things that intrinsically have vastly different probabilities. One (reality) presents constantly and consistently, and with no really viable alternative interpretation. The other (religious faith) doesn't present, other than (for this caller) in a feeling, and is subject to vastly different interpretations (is it just a feeling - a neurological pattern, or is some other religion actually causing that feeling, or is it a conditioned response that's been drilled into the caller due to indoctrination ...?). Matt (and Tracie as well) really respond to this with great logic. This is a good watch - beginning to end!
I'm never understand how they get enough gumption to call back but not enough to prepare first.
If they would honestly care about truth, fallacies, and reasonable arguments, they wouldn't be believers in the first place.
Does anyone else keep getting PUREFLIX ads on these?
Mery Love No. I've been getting christian and jewish faith adds loll. The irony...
Me too, I have as well. Which is annoying.
firefox browser, youtube control app, no more ads. brilliant!
@@askani21 PUREFLIX is Christian Netflix. LoL!! I know this is old but just wanted to say that I use Ghostery so no more PUREFLIX and PragerU ads. Soooo annoying.
i could tell it was the same guy without looking at the title
Your...... we're done😂😂
"You and I both experience reality, right?"
"Um.... yes.. well.. I mean.. okay.. it's different... um..."
Oh my god it's a simple question. These idiot callers know that their beliefs are not justified, but they don't want to get boxed in by LOGIC.
He's like that other guy:
"I can believe in pixies based on faith, right?
"Yes."
"I can take ANY position based on faith, regardless of whether or not that position is justified, right?"
"Yes."
"So then faith is NOT a reliable pathway to truth, right?"
"Um........... no."
WTF?
Indoctrination and suspension of critical thinking makes it impossible for them to say, "there is no evidence of a god and therefore no rational justification for belief in a god."
Problem:
“Josh” doesn’t know why he believes in god.
Solution:
Make practicing religion illegal under 18.
Problem solved.
dRE tEH We think alike.
I'd say the opposite. The thing that did the most to convince me to be an atheist is the religious education classes here in the UK. I was taught religion in school, but I was taught a wide variety of religions. We looked at the holy books of half a dozen religions, were encouraged to investigate their philosophies and histories and even had several of their religious leaders come in and talk about them. They were taught in a balanced fashion, we were not taught one was true and encouraged to look into them further. At the start of the year about 2/3 of the class were religious. At the end 2/3 were not, and I know at least a couple of the remainder were only claiming that because they came from strict Muslim families and another was a JW who might kick them out.
from a secular point of view that is a pretty evil idea.
While I agree that if people didn't study religion until 18 we'd have no religion in a generation or two - I would be the first, as an atheist, the protest and march against that as people have the right to be wrong.
sean sullivan banning the indoctrination of children into unfounded and harmful beliefs isn’t evil from a secular point of view.
Feelings, nothing more then unverifiable feelings.
Homeboy was high as a kite
Did I just witness the supernatural at 16:38??
I have no knowledge of green screens; therefore, god must have caused the side of Tracie's hair to disappear.
A siiiiiiiiign
This guy has called in a couple times under different names. Didn’t he go by Andy before?
I feel as if I’m a Los Angeles class nuclear attack submarine.
But that was just for that day, today I feel as if I’m a Cobra gunship.
To distinguish between feelings and sensation is crucial for rationality.