Winchester house was built to trap and confuse the spirits. She would hold Seances every night in a different room. She would also sleep in a different room every night to confuse the spirits. The house was designed in a way for her to observe the servants and workers from the top floor. Many construction workers died while building the mansion. It is said that it is the safest structure to be in during a earth quake because of the way it is built. Since she continued to build and add on till her death it made the foundation the most ideal to withstand a earth quake. It also has survived many earth quakes since its construction till present day. Most of it is not safe to explore today, but you can go and have a tour of the parts that are still sturdy. It honestly has a strange vibe to it.
Actually, Bathesheba wasn't the one possessing Mrs Perron, but she did get mistakenly blamed for it by Lorraine(also her daughter Judy said that Lorraine had started suffering from Dementia around the 1st film, and was worse off when the 2nd movie came out) as told by Andrea Perron in another interview on another channel. Andrea said it there as another female spirit attacking her mom, and basically Hollywood conjured up it's own story and ran with Bathesheba being a witch-demon. There were a lot of ppl who died there and it was another lady of the house who did not like Mrs Perron taking over that position. I adore Lorraine Warren and believe that her and Ed really tried to help ppl but, this was a lady who battled a lot of evil in her life and with some of their cases the activity only got worse so a few of the families had to tell them to leave. Also, u forgot to mention that lady Penney waited to mention her alleged affair with Ed after the Conjuring movie came out? Also, if Lorraine had Dementia that would also be a perfect time U don't know if ol girl was trying to get her 5 minutes of fame, and before I believe what some alleged side-chick says, I'd like to hear what Judy has to say about her mom and dad on that topic because, from what she says about her parents, they were loving towards each other and had a ride or die type of relationship? Whatever happened during their marriage, it wasn't strong enough to tear them apart and get a separation or divorce and they're not here anymore to defend it? Ijs. How would y'all like it if ur parents' business got talked about? Yes, I'm going there? 🤣😂
There are mediums who have been to the conjuring house and have indicated that Bathesheba was not the one to torment Mrs. Perron. Rather that it is a succubus who had started a relationship with Mr. Perron. She did not like Mrs. Perron for obvious reasons, thus started tormenting her. This is the demon who threw her across the room. People recounted having encounters with this succubus in the home to this day and she is not pleasant. She is not the only negative entity but there are many good spirits in the home due to Laylines (Idk how to spell this right). Its interesting to hear this from multiple mediums.
@@lauraalice9081No. That's not what they said. A lady lived on the property named Bathsheba Sherman. The fact that they had a dog that shared this name was a strange coincidence. That's the truth. Man...
@@jerm2011 that was not what they said unless they changed their story from when i watched it which i dont know how long ago its been but one of the daughters said that thier dog was named bathsheba and thats how hollywood came up with the name of the demon
My home s less than 2yrs And already haunted by the locals who follows me from the previous house that was only 10 years old. There’s nothing nasty,,they’re actually friendly, and even help with my husband at work without his knowledge - the entity told me to ‘keep my pretty little nose’ out of it. I’ll not argue. We also get Rando’s passing through on a biweekly basis, I suppose it keeps things interesting as they occasionally stop for chat - I’m a professional reader/medium.
To be fair I do believe in the paranormal but I struggle to believe a good portion of the cases the warrens did but that is strictly my opinion however I will admit they made for great movies and stories. And ultimately it did help for others to finally admit that they are believers of the supernatural and I think that was a good thing because now we have an entire community 😀
I meant them once when they gave a talk at my college called "Is Your House Haunted?" They seemed to be a very nice couple, I had a nice one on one talk with Lorraine and had a brief conversation with Ed. I find the illicit relationships information surprising.
the shadow doll does not haunt you when you take a picture of it the shadow doll works exactly like this: so when you take a picture of the doll you are perfectly fine nothing happens to you, but if you send that picture to somebody then it will place a curse upon them that will ultimately cause them to have very lucid and haunting nightmares and can also sometimes be placed upon them very bad luck that can cause people to die like in car accidents.
You have an excellent eye, i was beginning to think that i might be the only human that sees these kinds of anomalies. I don't know if your computer has a magnetfier but if it does , 2x or 3x will work just fine, there are multiple anomalies in the windows behind this group photo. I Started seeing these kinds of thing about 2.5 years ago, first one was on an old TV program from the late 1950 s - early 1960 s an episode of Timmy and LASSIE free on youtube, it was # 350 Hit and run, i will never forget the first one, the flowers used as decorations in the hospital waiting room directly behind Timmy's mother, they are not ordinary flowers they are in fact demons , magnetfied you can see great detail on their faces, some have hats on and other articles of clothing. I found this by complete accident, on a sat. morning ,nobody was home it was around 10:00 am and someone was at my front door i paused my screen to answer the door, it was my neighbor inviting me to play golf when i was free, he heard that i just retired, and rarely had time to play much in the past. We actually live in a gated community on a popular golf course, yet i haven't played in two years. When i returned to my desk and sat down thats when i saw the demon faced flowers ,i even pulled out the magnetfier to be absolutely sure, this after giving it some thought caused me to start an investigation, Why, curiosity and i hate being fooled by anyone or anything, i needed to know if this was an isolated [thing] and is there more and if so where. Well i found similar anomalies in all the episodes, some very blatant, particularly in outdoor scenes, in the trees and bushes, all cleverly hidden in plain sight. A Few days later, just for the hell of it, i looked at other websites randomly, After 10 days i concluded that everything we view in our media has been corrupted, news clips, talk shows, nature videos even religious programing, congressional hearings, all corrupted, many with subliminal messages written in an early form of samarium, and latin. Our conscious doesn't see it but an expert told me our subconscious does, he called it a high tech complicated form of mind control, was his best guess, he said that this is beyond his scope of understanding. Apparently this dates back to the start of TV, Another real expert on CGI said this is not anything that can be duplicated, meaning what we see defies our known physics, he said this is the direct result of mind willing, or paranormal event, this weeds out human interference. So after digesting all this new data, i said well the logical thing to do would be to contact high ranking church officials to possibly get their perspective on this, perhaps access any damage to the general public if any. At that time i rarely attended church not even a member of one however one of my sons girl friends did ,she knew the right ones to call, two days later the main gate calls me says several vehicles here from several churches are here to see me. Kind of caught me off guard wasn't sure they even cared 6 or 7 of them, two of them said i could be what's called a watcher, a person god selects to see signs and warn others, she said that the church believes there are hundreds or thousands like me that can see the cleverly hidden. After seeing my screen shot or evidence a few of them acted like i was a saint, i assured them i was just an ordinary retired man, that now wholeheartedly believes in rapture, and most of the bible. According to these highly educated faith driven people as of now they believe we have about 4-6 years before CHRIST will return. Events happening now in the middle east the newest war against the JEWS sure makes a compelling argument. One official told me that all these sightings of unknown beast like bigfoot dogman are Satan gathering and mounting his troops together, you know what, he was dead cold serious, he said all these creatures are unsanctioned, they are abominations, not created by the almighty, he also said that around 1/2 of the citizens in this country will be left behind, most of them are DEMOCRATS satans troopers in the flesh, assimilated by way of cellular devices zombies, sure glad i tossed my cell phone in the trash 20 years ago, i always suspected something about so many people have their faces buried in those little screens, and later the gov. giving phones away for free unlimited usage, WHY? my guess is world war lll will be starting, this time on our shores, china and Russia, after Biden gives all of our weapons away.
@@Driessens_Peter Iam no expert, but i have put a great deal of time looking at these types of things, and over these years 2-3 now i have concluded that nearly everything we view since the start of TV has been demonically corrupted, his mark is in everything even in religious programing, facts are facts, not my videos , so i sure didn't insert it, most likely most of humanity is screwed, some have subliminal messages, positive of it. showed some to an expert he confirmed it.
Very well spoken, wonderfully detailed, but I don't think you understand what a compilation is. You repeated the same top 10 list almost verbatim 5 times
@@ggenderking5609 Exactly, I don't know where they got Ed and Lorraine both died after the Conjuring 3 came out, from? Ppl are always in a rush to give out info, they have no idea about?
12:24 that doll doesn't look scary at all, looks at someone i see in some dreams more then multible times but then it is a person, also a very very nice person, so i don't understand shit you say like sucks your soul out of you?
It’s funny this stuff doesn’t happen anymore or at least we don’t hear about it I think they should let out all stuff in the museum out what’s everyone’s thoughts on that?
Watched a documentry with one of the Lutzs sons, he said a lot was fabriated, and the dad was in to satanic worship and the occult, they knew what they were buying.
@@mikememine1423 I wasn't correcting this person to make fun of them, I was being helpful. English might not be their first language or maybe they have a learning disability.
Oh did he....did he make you throw the horns up toooo!?!?!?!? I wonder..but no matter girl... It's time to repent... Wheneva you reddy...Ahayah Yashaya!!!
bathesheba was fiction it wasnt her real name bathsheba was a fictional name that they added to the story in hollywood naming the demon after their dog whos name was bathsheba i watched one of the kids interviews of them talking about it
Winchester house was built to trap and confuse the spirits. She would hold Seances every night in a different room. She would also sleep in a different room every night to confuse the spirits. The house was designed in a way for her to observe the servants and workers from the top floor. Many construction workers died while building the mansion. It is said that it is the safest structure to be in during a earth quake because of the way it is built. Since she continued to build and add on till her death it made the foundation the most ideal to withstand a earth quake. It also has survived many earth quakes since its construction till present day. Most of it is not safe to explore today, but you can go and have a tour of the parts that are still sturdy. It honestly has a strange vibe to it.
I love that house
Love the random son of Sam picture thrown in there lol
0:31 hahah
We need real demon slayers at this point.
I just love when I get that notification saying "Someone liked your comment!" Or "Someone has subscribed!" Makes my day better!!😊😍😇
I just did both 🙂 I hope that you have a great weekend ahead ❤
Clear sign of social media addiction
Fuck your day being better I hope it smells like hot dog shit smeltering in the summer sun!
I feel u on this.
Have a nice day! Relatable!
Actually, Bathesheba wasn't the one possessing Mrs Perron, but she did get mistakenly blamed for it by Lorraine(also her daughter Judy said that Lorraine had started suffering from Dementia around the 1st film, and was worse off when the 2nd movie came out) as told by Andrea Perron in another interview on another channel. Andrea said it there as another female spirit attacking her mom, and basically Hollywood conjured up it's own story and ran with Bathesheba being a witch-demon. There were a lot of ppl who died there and it was another lady of the house who did not like Mrs Perron taking over that position.
I adore Lorraine Warren and believe that her and Ed really tried to help ppl but, this was a lady who battled a lot of evil in her life and with some of their cases the activity only got worse so a few of the families had to tell them to leave. Also, u forgot to mention that lady Penney waited to mention her alleged affair with Ed after the Conjuring movie came out? Also, if Lorraine had Dementia that would also be a perfect time U don't know if ol girl was trying to get her 5 minutes of fame, and before I believe what some alleged side-chick says, I'd like to hear what Judy has to say about her mom and dad on that topic because, from what she says about her parents, they were loving towards each other and had a ride or die type of relationship?
Whatever happened during their marriage, it wasn't strong enough to tear them apart and get a separation or divorce and they're not here anymore to defend it? Ijs. How would y'all like it if ur parents' business got talked about? Yes, I'm going there? 🤣😂
thats the interview i watched and hollywood got the name from the perrons actual dogs name
There are mediums who have been to the conjuring house and have indicated that Bathesheba was not the one to torment Mrs. Perron. Rather that it is a succubus who had started a relationship with Mr. Perron. She did not like Mrs. Perron for obvious reasons, thus started tormenting her. This is the demon who threw her across the room. People recounted having encounters with this succubus in the home to this day and she is not pleasant. She is not the only negative entity but there are many good spirits in the home due to Laylines (Idk how to spell this right). Its interesting to hear this from multiple mediums.
@@lauraalice9081No. That's not what they said. A lady lived on the property named Bathsheba Sherman. The fact that they had a dog that shared this name was a strange coincidence. That's the truth.
Man...
@@jerm2011 that was not what they said unless they changed their story from when i watched it which i dont know how long ago its been but one of the daughters said that thier dog was named bathsheba and thats how hollywood came up with the name of the demon
My home s less than 2yrs And already haunted by the locals who follows me from the previous house that was only 10 years old. There’s nothing nasty,,they’re actually friendly, and even help with my husband at work without his knowledge - the entity told me to ‘keep my pretty little nose’ out of it. I’ll not argue.
We also get Rando’s passing through on a biweekly basis, I suppose it keeps things interesting as they occasionally stop for chat - I’m a professional reader/medium.
You are so awesome with your videos.. thank you so much 😊
Thanks for uploading this video I was able to find the smurl haunted movie been searching for it since I was a teen
Shay checking in from dublin Ireland keep it up ❤❤❤
11:48 “apparently it is no longer haunted” *my dumpling falls out of my chopsticks*
Pearls Of Death was not to be known in public, but after watching this makes me wanna go see it 😊
LMMFAO SMDH I SAID THE SAME THING ROFLMMFAO RIGHT?!?!? THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW
😅Ok. I subscribed.
Some of this stuff is kinda funny 😅
U know its a bad haunting if ed and larain needed back up
lol now that a joke right
Very smart young women keep up the good work ❤
stayed at The Myrtles and it did not disappoint.. a truly terrifying experience but fun as hell👻
Can we get her to do more videos?
Dope 😯
Bro I just wanted to see/hear about the scary thumbnail they used 😢 that shit looks scary. Instead I saw loops of the same stories.
Same
Me tooooo like wth is the thumbnail a picture of
To be fair I do believe in the paranormal but I struggle to believe a good portion of the cases the warrens did but that is strictly my opinion however I will admit they made for great movies and stories. And ultimately it did help for others to finally admit that they are believers of the supernatural and I think that was a good thing because now we have an entire community 😀
There was a lot of good acid floating around in the seventies apparently a lot of these people were trying it
I meant them once when they gave a talk at my college called "Is Your House Haunted?" They seemed to be a very nice couple, I had a nice one on one talk with Lorraine and had a brief conversation with Ed. I find the illicit relationships information surprising.
I love a quote by Lorraine Warren..."I never met an atheist in a haunted house."
14:00 love your content
She’s fine as hell
the shadow doll does not haunt you when you take a picture of it the shadow doll works exactly like this:
so when you take a picture of the doll you are perfectly fine nothing happens to you, but if you send that picture to somebody then it will place a curse upon them that will ultimately cause them to have very lucid and haunting nightmares and can also sometimes be placed upon them very bad luck that can cause people to die like in car accidents.
yeah offcourse, and i am saint Nicolas
who is more dangerous between annabelle doll or robert the doll?
Probably Annabelle, cuz she’s a literal demon. Robert the Doll is attached to a spirit
Let’s put them together and let them duke it out 😂
neither they're just dolls
Nether of them, Both stories are fake.
@@stevenwilson3441 Just make sure to give them some privacy! 😂
If The Conjuring movies “scared” you, I’d hate to see you react to a real scary movie.
Ur so brave that talk about this things I'm having heart attack from phone 😂❤
Who is that in the window behind Lorraine in the picture at 02:47
You have an excellent eye, i was beginning to think that i might be the only human that sees these kinds of anomalies. I don't know if your computer has a magnetfier but if it does , 2x or 3x will work just fine, there are multiple anomalies in the windows behind this group photo. I Started seeing these kinds of thing about 2.5 years ago, first one was on an old TV program from the late 1950 s - early 1960 s an episode of Timmy and LASSIE free on youtube, it was # 350 Hit and run, i will never forget the first one, the flowers used as decorations in the hospital waiting room directly behind Timmy's mother, they are not ordinary flowers they are in fact demons , magnetfied you can see great detail on their faces, some have hats on and other articles of clothing. I found this by complete accident, on a sat. morning ,nobody was home it was around 10:00 am and someone was at my front door i paused my screen to answer the door, it was my neighbor inviting me to play golf when i was free, he heard that i just retired, and rarely had time to play much in the past. We actually live in a gated community on a popular golf course, yet i haven't played in two years. When i returned to my desk and sat down thats when i saw the demon faced flowers ,i even pulled out the magnetfier to be absolutely sure, this after giving it some thought caused me to start an investigation, Why, curiosity and i hate being fooled by anyone or anything, i needed to know if this was an isolated [thing] and is there more and if so where. Well i found similar anomalies in all the episodes, some very blatant, particularly in outdoor scenes, in the trees and bushes, all cleverly hidden in plain sight. A Few days later, just for the hell of it, i looked at other websites randomly, After 10 days i concluded that everything we view in our media has been corrupted, news clips, talk shows, nature videos even religious programing, congressional hearings, all corrupted, many with subliminal messages written in an early form of samarium, and latin. Our conscious doesn't see it but an expert told me our subconscious does, he called it a high tech complicated form of mind control, was his best guess, he said that this is beyond his scope of understanding. Apparently this dates back to the start of TV, Another real expert on CGI said this is not anything that can be duplicated, meaning what we see defies our known physics, he said this is the direct result of mind willing, or paranormal event, this weeds out human interference. So after digesting all this new data, i said well the logical thing to do would be to contact high ranking church officials to possibly get their perspective on this, perhaps access any damage to the general public if any. At that time i rarely attended church not even a member of one however one of my sons girl friends did ,she knew the right ones to call, two days later the main gate calls me says several vehicles here from several churches are here to see me. Kind of caught me off guard wasn't sure they even cared 6 or 7 of them, two of them said i could be what's called a watcher, a person god selects to see signs and warn others, she said that the church believes there are hundreds or thousands like me that can see the cleverly hidden. After seeing my screen shot or evidence a few of them acted like i was a saint, i assured them i was just an ordinary retired man, that now wholeheartedly believes in rapture, and most of the bible. According to these highly educated faith driven people as of now they believe we have about 4-6 years before CHRIST will return. Events happening now in the middle east the newest war against the JEWS sure makes a compelling argument. One official told me that all these sightings of unknown beast like bigfoot dogman are Satan gathering and mounting his troops together, you know what, he was dead cold serious, he said all these creatures are unsanctioned, they are abominations, not created by the almighty, he also said that around 1/2 of the citizens in this country will be left behind, most of them are DEMOCRATS satans troopers in the flesh, assimilated by way of cellular devices zombies, sure glad i tossed my cell phone in the trash 20 years ago, i always suspected something about so many people have their faces buried in those little screens, and later the gov. giving phones away for free unlimited usage, WHY? my guess is world war lll will be starting, this time on our shores, china and Russia, after Biden gives all of our weapons away.
You’re seeing things bro
i also see that face. (in the left window, slightly bigger then the rest. dont know good catch
@@Driessens_Peter Iam no expert, but i have put a great deal of time looking at these types of things, and over these years 2-3 now i have concluded that nearly everything we view since the start of TV has been demonically corrupted, his mark is in everything even in religious programing, facts are facts, not my videos , so i sure didn't insert it, most likely most of humanity is screwed, some have subliminal messages, positive of it. showed some to an expert he confirmed it.
Hi! I can’t believe I’m so early😹
The lady doing this video is very beautiful. Keep up the good work 💪
Very well spoken, wonderfully detailed, but I don't think you understand what a compilation is. You repeated the same top 10 list almost verbatim 5 times
To farm watchtime I'm guessing, the paranormal community is known to be pretty lobotomized
Terrible audio quality, get a better mic so you can use your indoor voice. Kill the echo.
I have been to the bell witch cave. It and the farm was on an Indian burial ground.
The monkey toy looks a lot like the haunted toy in Stephen King's The Tommyknockers.. wonder if it was inspired by this toy?
The monkey toy with symbols always Freaks me out!😱😱😱
Why do the warrens photo look like they are the parents of Elon musk lol 😂 1:01:29
Seriously 😒 tho… look 👀 1:02:44
That first mugshot is David Berkowitz, not Arne Johnson...
Where is woody, or Rebecca? 1:40
Olivia is so pretty!❤
Why have you got a picture of the Son of Sam killer for Arne Johnson?
I like it his she says don’t take a picture meanwhile showing a picture
Yeah, don't take her picture, doesn't mean you can't see one that's already been taken
I love how the actor looks nothing like the real guy 😂lol
Annabelle is the most dangerous
Is the video messing up for anyone else like, it repeats or cuts off?
...did... did I just see the Son if Sam in this..?
How come demonic posession doesnt get recognised in a court of law but they have the words dieu et mon droit u cant av one an not the other
😊😊😊😊😊😊
Hey they found something to do that they liked and did well i mean for the 70s that is cool
Demon has possessed me, is the excuse of a coward for Amityville.
100% you do 0 real fact checking I see
ed and lorainne warren died 7 days after The Conjuring 3 was released >:( sooooo i find the "the devil made me do it" case sus
Ed died August 23rd 2006, Lorraine was around until April 18th 2019
@@ggenderking5609 Exactly, I don't know where they got Ed and Lorraine both died after the Conjuring 3 came out, from? Ppl are always in a rush to give out info, they have no idea about?
Makes sense, since ed and lori were both pathological liars, why wouldn't others make up lies about them?
@@HvinnyTheViking actually, they arent liars...because demons exist....im possessed by one and i made them my partner....
without this demon.....i wouldnt have survived the trip to the hospital and renal failure but this is a story for another time XD
I think the Shadow Doll is just sad
No one is gonna talk about how she is saying Arne (pronounced like Arnie) 🤣
I knew I wasn’t crazy
12:24 that doll doesn't look scary at all, looks at someone i see in some dreams more then multible times but then it is a person, also a very very nice person, so i don't understand shit you say like sucks your soul out of you?
I knew 💃🏾that we💃🏾are upside down💃🏾but💃🏾hold💃🏾your tongue 💃🏾 and hear me💃🏾out.
The lady doing this video is very beautiful.
The guy in the picture next to the man from the movie the devil made me do it is next to a picture of the Son of Sam, nothing to do with the case.
Stop shouting woman. Or turn the mic down.
It’s funny this stuff doesn’t happen anymore or at least we don’t hear about it I think they should let out all stuff in the museum out what’s everyone’s thoughts on that?
I don’t know. If all that stuff really was haunted then I don’t want it anywhere near me
Are u stupid lol
Are you psychotic? Letting out haunted objects is something you should never do especially if they cause death
I'm not sure if screenshots work. Let's give it a try.
Children don't watch the news. We need to make child-friendly PSAs to play during children's cartoons, etc.
That was more then 10
Bathsheba...more like"baths is bad"!😂😂😂
Why tf is the entire video looped like 3 times is the paranormal community THAT lobotomized
The part about Sherman is absolutely wrong she's not the one who did it she was murdered by her husband.
Wow who is the narrator, she's absolutely stunning
Definitely scary but the devil made me do it was the worst
20:07 the doll give nightmares to thoes who take photo's of it, procceds to show multiple photos
The Enfiekd one was obvious fraud! Its a kid jumping off their bed!
Lol I didn’t take picture of the doll
AKKKKKBUDDD!!!!
Watched a documentry with one of the Lutzs sons, he said a lot was fabriated, and the dad was in to satanic worship and the occult, they knew what they were buying.
I think the clown doll is kinda cute
Real
Yall are literally recycle central with your compilations. Please stop using the same story 4 or 5 times per video.
I noticed they do that a lot?
i agree its super annoying, usually at first repeat i change to another video 🥲
Super annoying and they don’t do enough research to pronounce names correctly 🙄
I saw the Joker in the thumbnail so I decided to click on it
Me 2
fun video. please brush up on your English speaking skills. otherwise it was 👍
Sadly there gone😭
They're
@@undergroundsoldierz3824Haa ha... Guy does not know what contractions are, or the difference between there, their, and they're...Haa ha
@@mikememine1423 I wasn't correcting this person to make fun of them, I was being helpful. English might not be their first language or maybe they have a learning disability.
AKBUD!
In all due respect.
That's not how you pronounce Arne.
Becarefull if your comments get to Facebook they will cancel you
The drugs back then was a little too good
the 70s had good acid
What?! Ed had an affair eeeeeeeeeek
more like 43 mental health
If u have a demin u abd the pple who cast it out there will b a legion if more evil demons will enter you the inly way us jesus
Oh did he....did he make you throw the horns up toooo!?!?!?!? I wonder..but no matter girl... It's time to repent... Wheneva you reddy...Ahayah Yashaya!!!
Zozo ????
So ed had a mistress
Its pronounced arneee. Common… do a LITTLE research before throwing your video up
Something liked your comment...
Feliz transited ishappy
FA QUE RICA RUBIA...NICE BLONDE SERIA..? XD..
This girl's drunk
Looks like valance is a male,so here’s a cross Dresser?wow he’s keeping up with this crazy era then
bathesheba was fiction it wasnt her real name bathsheba was a fictional name that they added to the story in hollywood naming the demon after their dog whos name was bathsheba i watched one of the kids interviews of them talking about it
*ARNIE
A demon nun, more like a demnun
damn she beautifulll
Pronounced "are knee." You guys are a bit slow.