Air France vs KLM Business Class Comparison

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
  • In this video, I'll take you through my thoughts on how a couple of SkyTeam's largest members compare. We'll be looking at both of Air France's and KLM's latest Long Haul Business Class offerings aboard their Boeing 777-300 aircraft.
    Overall, for me personally, it's a pretty close run thing. Air France and KLM have their distinct strengths, aspects which played pretty strongly through their offerings both onboard and off the aircraft. As part of the video, we'll check out some of the key aspects such as food, entertainment, the seats and much more!
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    If you're keen to see my full review with either airline featured, you can do so just here for Air France:
    • Air France 777 Busines...
    And here for KLM:
    • Discovering KLM's New ...
    Chapters:
    00:15 Check in
    00:45 Lounges
    04:00 Seats
    07:11 Entertainment
    08:36 Amenity kits
    09:29 Bathrooms
    10:14 Food & beverages
    15:00 Sleeping
    16:17 Final thoughts

ความคิดเห็น • 70

  • @fdanieln8759
    @fdanieln8759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really like how you do your head to head comparisons, the side by side as opposed to finishing one then going to the other really helps with giving an apple to apple viewpoint of what you are comparing

  • @JEH80
    @JEH80 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your videos are just absolutely amazing.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Massively appreciate it, thank you! 🙏

  • @semperfi1833
    @semperfi1833 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparison, keep them coming. New subscriber.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much and welcome onboard! ✈️

  • @nubianpwr
    @nubianpwr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great attention to detail, aesthetics, and functionality. Very cool man😎 Subscribed!

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Great to have you onboard ✈️

  • @maxbezer5060
    @maxbezer5060 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another great vid mate!

  • @FirstTravelService
    @FirstTravelService 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another solid job, TbD!

  • @troubleonmac
    @troubleonmac 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Flying to Thailand next year and going KLM outbound and AF return so looking forward to doing our own comparison. We took an online check in upgrade offer to AF business last year (from PE) and whilst it was old biz seats (and 2-2-2 config which we knew before we accepted) we had a great flight with excellent food and drink. Would have booked AF both ways but was too expensive for us to do that so pleased you rate KLM seats and service a touch more.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahhhh yes, that’ll be a great opportunity for a comparison. I’d love to run it again just to see how consistent each airline is on the service front…maybe in time…

  • @douggoesplaces
    @douggoesplaces หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Comparison and Great Video! I fly KLM a lot because I love the business class lounges, seat and of course, the little houses. BUT Air France definitely wins in the meal experience. KLM does get extra points for having a great flight team, Air france can be a little... snooty...

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!
      Yeah, I think that’s fair. I’ve heard that quite a bit about the Air France service so was glad to avoid that on my trips with them!

  • @happyyorkshireman9250
    @happyyorkshireman9250 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, Another great review. Agree Air France looks slightly better but both are very nice. The food the AF served looked outstanding especially the dessert ....cheers

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re very welcome! Yeah I’d say so, food was a cut above and service excellent. Would be good to try them on another route to check in on how consistent they are…

  • @rexblackstream
    @rexblackstream 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think that you should incorporate a ratings scorecard. Allocate a score for each aspect that you review (starting with check-in, etc) out of 5 or 10 and show that score after each item (maybe with justification as to why you gave that score), then show the overall scorecard at the end. This is regardless if you are just revieiwng one airline or doing a comparison like this video.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a really good call, I’ve considered doing something similar - I may incorporate into later reviews 😊

  • @garryb131
    @garryb131 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hugely interesting. Duh!..I previously had the 2 reports running side by side to compare....could have saved myself effort!!!! I'm with you...KLM and even on the catering. I never commented on your AF vid because everyone was raving about the food and I was unimpressed, especially with the menu and still am. Can't comment on the service though. I had a suspicion that KLM was the poor partner in the union but not so with the new J class. There is just a little more colour and character with KLM. I always hoped that BA and KLM would have joined forces, alas too many obstacles. Excellent Richard, love the comparisons, definitely have more meat on the bone.

    • @richardstreet7518
      @richardstreet7518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both airlines appear to put BA to shame... (1) your vlogs are great.. thanks for posting

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! Haha glad the eventual comparison was helpful.
      KLM increasingly in a really good place I think, it would be really interesting to do their premium economy I think…

  • @karlp8484
    @karlp8484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent review, I love these comparison style videos. Just one minor point. The AF lounge was at Incheon and the KLM at their home base, Schiphol. One wonders what the AF lounge would be like at say CDG - their home base. Apples to apples etc?

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you’re enjoying them! AF lounge was indeed CDG as was keen to keep it fair 😊

    • @karlp8484
      @karlp8484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Travelsbydreamer Sorry, got that wrong because I thought you were flying from Incheon. 😃

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@karlp8484 oh no worries, there’s so much going on in these vids destination wise! Incheon was with KLM but flew onwards with them from Amsterdam so got to show their flagship lounge also!

  • @EHancock37
    @EHancock37 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video mate Air France definitely miles ahead!

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! On so many areas they did really well. For me, gut feel says KLM but that opinion might not pass a critical comparison 😅

  • @JB-pk1jx
    @JB-pk1jx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just did AF business long haul for the first time and it was great. The food was not bad for airline food. The one thing I didn’t like was the lack of movies/shows on the entertainment system.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They’re definitely strong on the catering front. Sounds a shame entertainment wise though, was it the same system as shown in this video? They’re for sure not known as the strongest on that front in the world however

  • @AvaliDiva
    @AvaliDiva 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great comparison! KLM really needs to do something about their catering. It’s not the best

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Yeah agreed, they have the nice little touches in place…more choice needed!

  • @ljacobs357
    @ljacobs357 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I prefer Air France’s food and wine, but KLM’s service. The seats depend on the aircraft. AMS is easier to connect through than CDG. I also like KLM's little touches.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I think that’s fair. I’d like to try them both a little more across their other long haul cabins to get a real feel for how they do across the board 😊

  • @GauthamVishnu-x7p
    @GauthamVishnu-x7p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good 😊 job

  • @mobilitymix5896
    @mobilitymix5896 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice comparison, thank you. I have seen a lot of critical reviews of KLM business class lately. I am curious if the larger footwell is consistent across all KLM's business class seats or if your seat was unique?

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much! Interesting, I’d be curious to see what people were pulling them up on.
      As for the footwells, I’d say most likely yes. I didn’t study the others but, typically if there are larger ones in the cabin, the airlines tend to give those for the very front seats, sometimes even as part of like a business plus sort of seat (think Virgin Atlantic etc) 😊

    • @parmentier7457
      @parmentier7457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Dutch are among the tallest people in the world. This is reflected in both the KLM business class seats, but also train and metro doors and even toilet seats are higher in the Netherlands than in surrounding countries.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@parmentier7457 ahhh yes, good thinking!

  • @r12004rewy
    @r12004rewy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have never been a lover of AF but that flight looked very good, the food presentation was exceptional, KLM was disappointing and as you stated the main course looked very PE. I
    Both lounges looked very good but what a pity you couldn't gain access to the roof terrace.
    But as ever a really good review, and something I could only dream of doing.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That roof terrace for sunrise would’ve been magic! Next time for sure.
      Thanks so much, loads more to follow 😃

  • @liamwalsh75
    @liamwalsh75 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve flown both a number of times, I prefer the KLM seats but the AirFrance food and service really is amazing.
    But I do like the little touches from KLM like the little house and chocolate gifts.
    Both good in different ways 🤷‍♂️
    The only criticism I have is AF needs to improve it’s cleaning procedures 😬

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting your experiences were very much in line with my own, worrying to hear that the cleanliness of the aircraft is something you also experienced on AF. So simple to get right…

  • @Wolfgangnitz1
    @Wolfgangnitz1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Air Frances Wine is better, but KLM gives you a small Dutch Grachten House

  • @GauthamVishnu-x7p
    @GauthamVishnu-x7p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you tried Qantas

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I for sure have but sadly not since starting the channel! Would love to feature them soon…

    • @GG-hi5if
      @GG-hi5if 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Travelsbydreamerqantas food (having just had it ex-lhr) was quite basic to be honest.

  • @GauthamVishnu-x7p
    @GauthamVishnu-x7p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What country have you been to

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was a trip to Seoul, South Korea 😊

  • @GauthamVishnu-x7p
    @GauthamVishnu-x7p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you live in uk 🇬🇧

  • @GG-hi5if
    @GG-hi5if 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KLM vs BA?
    We can always rely on France to nail it on the food/wine though

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Could well be a good one to look at!

    • @GG-hi5if
      @GG-hi5if 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Travelsbydreamer Tbh, I suspect from your commentary, KLM seat will edge above Club Suite but the food/service will win on BA.
      Galleries T5 are a joke though :(
      Slay

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GG-hi5if I think that’s broadly where I’d expect them to come out. Service wise, I’d put KLM on the Seoul experience ahead lounges wise for sure KLM the Heathrow lounges are pretty awful just now, largely driven by far too many users!

    • @GG-hi5if
      @GG-hi5if 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Travelsbydreamer Have you tried Asian carriers? I flew Asiana this year / JAL last year and whilst the decor was bland, and seats semi-old, the service and food was exceptional.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GG-hi5if yeah, lots of vids on the channel :)

  • @GauthamVishnu-x7p
    @GauthamVishnu-x7p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you been to Australia 🇦🇺

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Loads! Phenomenal country ♥️

  • @sctexan5392
    @sctexan5392 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just me, I never have time to use a lounge, we'll almost never, think twice in my lifetime and I only got in one, the other time the lounge wasn't very convenient.

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The better ones can be a great start to the journey or transit experience if you have time, does depend a little bit though 😊

  • @gerritkirchner8710
    @gerritkirchner8710 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KLM food is not so good anymore .
    Small portions and quite blend .
    Menu is very small .
    Unfortunately I live in the Netherlands

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah indeed, it’s an area they do need to really enhance I think. Shame for you being based out of the Netherlands that they’re not so good on this front!

  • @matthewmault1555
    @matthewmault1555 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lots of “fronts” in this one 😂

  • @chooseyahandlenowyall
    @chooseyahandlenowyall 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive flew on both and tbh im 100% a klm girl. Theres something about the AF cabin that i just dont feel comfortable in it and i thought it was my size but i guess im not the only one. Plus the klm entertainment is far superior to AF. On my last trip my outbound was klm and inbound AF and i deeply regretted not having 2 little houses on my collection 💔

    • @Travelsbydreamer
      @Travelsbydreamer  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Two houses would’ve been fab! Yep, think I’m with you on the KLM front despite the AF vast superiority on the food front. Cabin did indeed feel tight by business class standards.