I have to laugh at the ruses manufacturers use to rip customers off, with the principle one being the 'comfort' seat! Basically, they fit an uncomfortable seat, and then offer a more comfortable one as an option! Why not simply fit the comfortable seat as standard?
I agree. If like me you are a hoarder of all things bike you will have a couple of top boxes and panniers in the shed. My old givi e28 panniers fit perfectly on givi racks and I turn an old e21 pannier on its side to use as a small top box. The cost of full luggage therefore was £180 for the givi pannier frames and adapter plate for the rack to take another old givi m5 top box plate I had. These have worked perfectly for myself and management when we travel together on whatever bike we have. If it's just me I only need 1 30 litre roll bag for everything. My old Barkbusters also fit. Even my old tutoro chain oiler now on it's 5th bike, fits well with an additional £3 spent for new tubing. Yes, I'm tight. But why spend more? Ride safe 👍
I was one of the people who made a comment regarding the truing up of tubeless wheels. Saying that, I did have tubeless spoked wheels on my 1990 BMW R80GS. I owned the bike for 20 years and never had to do a thing to the wheels and spokes. They were faultless.
Hi Stuart, I have just bought a Benelli TRK702 for £6666 otr complete with all the accessories listed apart from crash bars that were £150 extra, more power and slightly heaver. I did look and try the new 450 Himalayan, but preferred the Benelli. Great video.
When I had my hunter 350 I bought alot of my accessories from eBay, they come directly from India, probably from the same place the shop bought dealer accessories come from. They were alot cheaper, sometimes half price or more, free delivery and pretty quick too ... Great insight uncle Stu 🎉 x
Great bikes , and even though they have slightly increased I personally still think there good value for the money, great review mate hope all's well 👍🏼
Great video, as always! My only gripe with the bike is the lower front fender. There is no reason to have two. People are cutting them off because debris gets lodged underneath.
Thanks for doing this video Stuart. The pricing for the individual items seems fair. Although once added to the bike price it does make me question the whole value proposition. Especially when you can still get deals on bikes like the Benelli TRK502 fully kitted out for 2k less.
Well to be fair, the Benelli is a chinese bike (nothing wrong in that) and weighs 39 kgs more than the Him 450 and only has 7 more horsepower. Doesn't come with 21 inch wheels nor does it have the handling of the Him 450. Price wise it may seem like a better deal, but considering all things, the Him 450 is a far better bike than the Benelli.
Great video Stu. I think the new Himalayan package is a good deal tbh, when you compare it to today's direct competition. For a tad under £8k you get a fully kitted out adventure/touring bike that is comfortable at motorway speeds. Luggage wise you can only compare it to the 411, which has the same offerings for 2/3 the price but then development costs have been long paid for with those. Interestingly, if you aren't interested in high speed touring there are some silly cheap deals available for brand new old stock 411's. Just over half the price of a new 450 kitted out can pick you up a 411 with RE hard panniers and frames thrown in.
Hi Stuart. Even at the dealership in Mumbai, I saw the configurator glitches you talk of, exist. Sad to say. I had booked a Guerrilla 450. So I removed all accessories except the radiator guard and told them I'd deal with other items later. Possibly from a high quality after market provider. The RE stuff tends to be a bit crude. Thanks for your efforts. Shashi.
I don’t do adventure touring and love my Conti but I have to say. Your Himi is making me want one! 6k starting for this is hilariously good value. Avg Joe would not recognise the diff between this and something double the price.
To be fair, configuring this bike to ones taste can be done cheaper or dearer, depending on ones choice of accessory supplier... original equipment is always going to be pricey, and usually doesn't include fitting... but hey, you pays yer money etc, etc... I spent a fair wedge of cash getting my Triumph 400 scrambler to my liking, aftermarket screen, ally sump guard, tail tidy, side bag and rack, tank bag, crash bars, high front mudguard... all up, the best part of a grand in cash and all fitted nicely and by myself so saved a bit of cash on dealer prices... it can be done cheaper... but nice vid all the same... Ride Safe👍😎
G’day Stuart, fitted a set of Touratech panniers, 45 and 38 litre, pannier frames and rear rack to my 2010 R1200GS. $4200 Aus dollars😳. Have had my 450 for the last 4 months. I fitted my 450 with panniers and touring screen, came out to $10.400 Aus dollars on road.
Great video Stu, always good to clarify exactly what price the bike we’re looking at adds up to. It is a hefty price tag in total, you would hope if it’s done at the same time as ordering a bike, that there would be a deal to be had, as we all know adding extras on to a PCP deal is basically chucking money down the loo as you’ll never get the value added to the bike back again after typically 2 or 3 years. I suppose you could strip down the bike and sell off the accessories separately though. A bonus not to be ignored though will be the warranty on the bike, and the accessories, the customer service from RE if anything does go wrong, and I’m still in awe of their worldwide warranty scheme, which begs the question why don’t all manufacturers of adventure bikes offer the same? Or do they? I don’t know the answer.
I really like the hard panniers and the fact that they’re on the smaller side will insure you pack light. I’d pass on the top box as that’s where my dry bag would go.
It just goes to show that the basic price for a bike soon adds up. Chinese manufacturers like Benelli and Voge include a lot of kit as standard, plus there is sometimes a free 3 piece luggage offer. I believe the RE panniers are the same that were available for the old 411 Himalayan, as these were the only things common to both the 411 and 450. The accessories do seem to have increased in price over what I paid for speccing up my 411, although there is no tubeless option.
@stuartfillingham I feel very similar to you, although as has been said many times, China supplies a lot of components that are used by other manufacturers. I'm a big RE fan, but I feel the pricing for the new Himalayan is too high, especially as the Guerrilla base model is a very attractive sub £5k whereas the base Himalayan is £5.8K.
I think those prices are reasonable for genuine RE accessories and while the total price might seem high for a Royal Enfield it's still pretty good for a fully loaded small adv bike. For every 1 person that buys it fully loaded there will be 10 who add aftermarket kit and the longer the bike is out the more aftermarket stuff will be available. As for fitting every bike I've bought new has included free fitting of extras. Its worth remembering that the mark up on accessories is generally far greater than the bike itself so dealers often have more wriggle room if you're adding a few bits
I remember buying my first brand new bike, a 1955 350cc Ariel Red Hunter. It cost me 189 GB Pounds (I'm in NZ and my keyboard does not have a 'pound' sign)
Since RE has not yet released the tubeless rims here in india, i think having someone carry them from europe will be a better deal. Although i hear that they might introduce the tubeless rims in november.
Regarding royal Enfield price increases, in comparison with the time volkswagen bought skoda over and at the beginning the cars were value for money, then as the years progressed the prices crept up, i think royalEnfield will lure potential customers in with value for money machines until they build their brand in Europe and then they may be as expensive as triumph etc, but now skoda as a value for money brand their cars may more expensive in some cases than volkswagen own brand cars, i may be wrong , but its what i think anyway, enjoyed the in depth nut and bolt review of bike in last video
Those bags on the front don't seem to be available. Hitchcock's aren't showing anything, nor are the various Indian sellers. I would like a pair for carrying smaller items, so I'll wait until they come onto the market.
That seems like a sort of a lot to me. I mean I haven’t seen the model as they don’t seem to be in the USA yet, so don’t have a strong opinion. But just based on the numbers you have here, are a few other bike options to look at given the price. Maybe it’s fine for value, maybe there are others as good as value, it would bear looking carefully. Too bad, the other RE prices seem sort of unapproachable by other makers. If that is gone and we’re going toward what the market will bear with this brand too, it’s a shame for all those new/young riders if even RE chooses to ignore them.
The old Himi was very affordable, this new one is not. Not a problem if it is good enough but is it? It is almost as expensive as a Honda 500NX now here in Sweden and that Honda is almost certainly a better buy. The old Himi was priced at just over half of the then new Honda CB500X, so RE has upped their prices. The new chinese wonder CFMoto 450MT is almost 20% cheaper than this Himi and with all accessories the price gap will be even bigger. RE has of course upped their game with better quality parts and finish but they are not equal to Honda, at least not yet and not in a foreseeable future. Will be interesting to see if RE makes a scrambler based on this platform, and if that might lower the prices some.
The old 411 was £5000. This new one is only £5750... For a far more modern feature packed bike. Still fantastic value really. If anything, it's even better value than the original Himalayan.
@@Trev350 new Himi 72000SEK cheapest base model just for the bike. Bags, crash bars etc another twenty. Old Himi base model started from 48000,-. For 56K you got the loaded one. New Honda is 81.900,-, CFMoto is 62.500,- and Triumph 400X is 64K. These are swedish prices, you get better in UK. 🙂
@@robertlindstrom540 well yes, I can only speak of the situation in the UK really. And for us it represents really excellent value for money in my opinion. Clearly the situation is a little different for you guys. Cheers.
@@robertlindstrom540 and, I would be interested to hear which parts aren't up to the quality of a Honda 500. Personality I believe that the new 450 is on the same level as Honda now, but I'm interested to hear your take on it.
@@Trev350 I`ve had five decades with japanese bikes by now. My ride now is a Kawasaki Vulcan from -94 so a thirty year old bike. But condition is mint, paint and chrome still shine, no rust anywhere and I get nice comments from people occasionally. My last Honda was a VFR750 , a -92 that I sold in -05. It was also immaculate. So I can´t compare directly to RE from an owners point of view. It is just what I feel and of course I can be wrong. But Honda has a good rep for quality and they keep their price very well. Same can be said for Kawasaki. The jury is still out regarding RE products. So that was my take and hence my commentary. 🙂
thanks Stuart - i think a user would be mad to buy the pouches as one accident and they are going to get damaged easily - soft bags are a much better choice - as for the 'rally pad' hahahaaa no, just no - it is a show not go item, useless item and that comes from someone who races enduro
Good morning, Stuart, and once again, thank you for your videos, which personally help me to better understand, so to speak, the motorcycle market from a more informed perspective. I have a question for you. I own a first-generation Himalayan, but unfortunately, I’ve had several mechanical issues. I am an admirer of Royal Enfield, and their motorcycles continue to fascinate me, but I’m considering switching to something similar. I’m looking for a bike that, while not having pronounced off-road capabilities, retains affordability, style, the ability to handle some dirt roads, but also has the reliability of Japanese engineering. What would you recommend?
I don’t understand?? Why so expensive. Normally bikes are pretty much UK to Australia prices give or take a few hundred ponds ( 1.9 x for au$ ) BSA not available in Australia but available in New Zealand and a few hundred difference to UK prices. Au$ price for Himalayan 450 starts at a tad over 4000 quid. Can not compare on road delivered prices because of rego, 3rd party insurance, stamp duty and dealer delivery varies so much between states but never exceeds 700 pounds for 12 months delivered. Call it 5000 pound ride away with a few extras🤷🏻
Seen worse cost. Like you say, if you need them all good. I looked at a fully loaded 411 over two years ago and that was around 5500€ otr so doesn't seat to bad for factory parts.
The hard luggage accessories ruin the look of the bike who would fit these in preference to soft luggage on this size bike , looks like you want a GS 😂
Oh man, those terrible alu cases. Worst option for traveling. Highly dangerous, damage easily and don't fit long term. Cases will be full of alu power that damages anything inside.
Let's not forget Royal enfield are currently doing a £650 cash back on new bikes. As of September 2024. So you can negotiate accessories.
didn't know that 🙂
I have to laugh at the ruses manufacturers use to rip customers off, with the principle one being the 'comfort' seat! Basically, they fit an uncomfortable seat, and then offer a more comfortable one as an option! Why not simply fit the comfortable seat as standard?
Or a rad guard that guards the rad.......
I find the seat on the 450 better than seat on the 411 I had.
Or a 'touring' seat that's worse for back... as in the Meteor 350
The Honda NC750X has entered the conversation...
I agree.
If like me you are a hoarder of all things bike you will have a couple of top boxes and panniers in the shed.
My old givi e28 panniers fit perfectly on givi racks and I turn an old e21 pannier on its side to use as a small top box.
The cost of full luggage therefore was £180 for the givi pannier frames and adapter plate for the rack to take another old givi m5 top box plate I had.
These have worked perfectly for myself and management when we travel together on whatever bike we have.
If it's just me I only need 1 30 litre roll bag for everything.
My old Barkbusters also fit.
Even my old tutoro chain oiler now on it's 5th bike, fits well with an additional £3 spent for new tubing.
Yes, I'm tight. But why spend more?
Ride safe 👍
You get a red card for not being an obedient consumer
@@rajsmith9855 👍
I was one of the people who made a comment regarding the truing up of tubeless wheels. Saying that, I did have tubeless spoked wheels on my 1990 BMW R80GS. I owned the bike for 20 years and never had to do a thing to the wheels and spokes. They were faultless.
Hi Stuart, I have just bought a Benelli TRK702 for £6666 otr complete with all the accessories listed apart from crash bars that were £150 extra, more power and slightly heaver. I did look and try the new 450 Himalayan, but preferred the Benelli. Great video.
When I had my hunter 350 I bought alot of my accessories from eBay, they come directly from India, probably from the same place the shop bought dealer accessories come from. They were alot cheaper, sometimes half price or more, free delivery and pretty quick too ... Great insight uncle Stu 🎉 x
As a sidenote, I received my first Orient wristwatch and what a fine instrument ! Thank you for the recommendation !
Was it a Bambino? 🤔
@@wyldwulf06 No sir, I opted for a more traditional model, one of their originals and it keeps PERFECT TIME !
If you visit Japan you can find them in BIC camera or yodabashi store
Great bikes , and even though they have slightly increased I personally still think there good value for the money, great review mate hope all's well 👍🏼
HI Stuart, thanks. It's really helpful to have this additional info to support your overall appraisal of the bike👍
Great video, as always! My only gripe with the bike is the lower front fender. There is no reason to have two. People are cutting them off because debris gets lodged underneath.
Thanks for doing this video Stuart. The pricing for the individual items seems fair. Although once added to the bike price it does make me question the whole value proposition. Especially when you can still get deals on bikes like the Benelli TRK502 fully kitted out for 2k less.
Well to be fair, the Benelli is a chinese bike (nothing wrong in that) and weighs 39 kgs more than the Him 450 and only has 7 more horsepower. Doesn't come with 21 inch wheels nor does it have the handling of the Him 450. Price wise it may seem like a better deal, but considering all things, the Him 450 is a far better bike than the Benelli.
Great video Stu. I think the new Himalayan package is a good deal tbh, when you compare it to today's direct competition. For a tad under £8k you get a fully kitted out adventure/touring bike that is comfortable at motorway speeds. Luggage wise you can only compare it to the 411, which has the same offerings for 2/3 the price but then development costs have been long paid for with those. Interestingly, if you aren't interested in high speed touring there are some silly cheap deals available for brand new old stock 411's. Just over half the price of a new 450 kitted out can pick you up a 411 with RE hard panniers and frames thrown in.
Great vid Stu for those looking for kit.
Good for carrying gear .
But for me, personally, those alloy boxes are ugly as sin on any bike.
Also a hazard in an accident.
I think maybe you can specify the rally pack when you buy the bike, but you can not buy them separately to add to a standard non-rally bike
Hi Stuart. Even at the dealership in Mumbai, I saw the configurator glitches you talk of, exist. Sad to say. I had booked a Guerrilla 450. So I removed all accessories except the radiator guard and told them I'd deal with other items later. Possibly from a high quality after market provider. The RE stuff tends to be a bit crude. Thanks for your efforts. Shashi.
one thing i can say is that there is nothing crude about these accessories they are all very well executed.
I don’t do adventure touring and love my Conti but I have to say. Your Himi is making me want one!
6k starting for this is hilariously good value. Avg Joe would not recognise the diff between this and something double the price.
I chuckle when people comment that prices are wrong, when they make the remark yonks after the video been posted
To be fair, configuring this bike to ones taste can be done cheaper or dearer, depending on ones choice of accessory supplier... original equipment is always going to be pricey, and usually doesn't include fitting... but hey, you pays yer money etc, etc... I spent a fair wedge of cash getting my Triumph 400 scrambler to my liking, aftermarket screen, ally sump guard, tail tidy, side bag and rack, tank bag, crash bars, high front mudguard... all up, the best part of a grand in cash and all fitted nicely and by myself so saved a bit of cash on dealer prices... it can be done cheaper... but nice vid all the same... Ride Safe👍😎
A good video with plenty of kit to choose from , thanks for sharing , take care & ride safe
Good video. Looks like a proper ADV Touring bike. Looking forward to seeing where you take it.
G’day Stuart, fitted a set of Touratech panniers, 45 and 38 litre, pannier frames and rear rack to my 2010 R1200GS.
$4200 Aus dollars😳.
Have had my 450 for the last 4 months.
I fitted my 450 with panniers and touring screen, came out to $10.400 Aus dollars on road.
The 450 panniers are the same as the 411 Himalayan panniers in other words interchangeable.
Great video Stu, always good to clarify exactly what price the bike we’re looking at adds up to. It is a hefty price tag in total, you would hope if it’s done at the same time as ordering a bike, that there would be a deal to be had, as we all know adding extras on to a PCP deal is basically chucking money down the loo as you’ll never get the value added to the bike back again after typically 2 or 3 years. I suppose you could strip down the bike and sell off the accessories separately though. A bonus not to be ignored though will be the warranty on the bike, and the accessories, the customer service from RE if anything does go wrong, and I’m still in awe of their worldwide warranty scheme, which begs the question why don’t all manufacturers of adventure bikes offer the same? Or do they? I don’t know the answer.
I really like the hard panniers and the fact that they’re on the smaller side will insure you pack light. I’d pass on the top box as that’s where my dry bag would go.
It just goes to show that the basic price for a bike soon adds up. Chinese manufacturers like Benelli and Voge include a lot of kit as standard, plus there is sometimes a free 3 piece luggage offer. I believe the RE panniers are the same that were available for the old 411 Himalayan, as these were the only things common to both the 411 and 450. The accessories do seem to have increased in price over what I paid for speccing up my 411, although there is no tubeless option.
i think in the current political/economic climate we need to think very carefully before buying chinese products.
@stuartfillingham I feel very similar to you, although as has been said many times, China supplies a lot of components that are used by other manufacturers. I'm a big RE fan, but I feel the pricing for the new Himalayan is too high, especially as the Guerrilla base model is a very attractive sub £5k whereas the base Himalayan is £5.8K.
I've got tubeless tyres on mine. It also has the gold wheels, which were apparently not going to be available.
Most people today would have zero problem buying a Nazi made VW in 1944 as they were being bombed if it happened to be the more affordable option
@@stuartfillinghamto anybody that ticked ‘like’ to this comment, where was the product made that you replied on? 😉😉
Good video. Thank you.
I think those prices are reasonable for genuine RE accessories and while the total price might seem high for a Royal Enfield it's still pretty good for a fully loaded small adv bike. For every 1 person that buys it fully loaded there will be 10 who add aftermarket kit and the longer the bike is out the more aftermarket stuff will be available. As for fitting every bike I've bought new has included free fitting of extras. Its worth remembering that the mark up on accessories is generally far greater than the bike itself so dealers often have more wriggle room if you're adding a few bits
I paid £6500 for my new ktm 390adventure with full ktm semi soft luggage. That price you said shocked me a tad 😮 my bike was bought new in may 2024.
Hi Stuart. Nice Video as per usual. One question.Which box did the compost bag fit in? 😄
Those crash bar bags are damn handy, but from the front it makes the bike look like a chipmunk😂
I remember buying my first brand new bike, a 1955 350cc Ariel Red Hunter. It cost me 189 GB Pounds (I'm in NZ and my keyboard does not have a 'pound' sign)
Cheers for that.
I’m pretty sure it’s the configurator. Whenever I’ve tried it I’ve found it to be very clunky.
Since RE has not yet released the tubeless rims here in india, i think having someone carry them from europe will be a better deal.
Although i hear that they might introduce the tubeless rims in november.
Regarding royal Enfield price increases, in comparison with the time volkswagen bought skoda over and at the beginning the cars were value for money, then as the years progressed the prices crept up, i think royalEnfield will lure potential customers in with value for money machines until they build their brand in Europe and then they may be as expensive as triumph etc, but now skoda as a value for money brand their cars may more expensive in some cases than volkswagen own brand cars, i may be wrong , but its what i think anyway, enjoyed the in depth nut and bolt review of bike in last video
I think it depends on how well the Indian economy does. Most of their sales happen there. They won't make bikes only for export.
Those bags on the front don't seem to be available. Hitchcock's aren't showing anything, nor are the various Indian sellers. I would like a pair for carrying smaller items, so I'll wait until they come onto the market.
Brilliant video as always Stuart and they more I see this bike, the more I want one, but I think the Benelli 650 is about the same price 🤔👍🏻
Yeah. Get a Chinese bike. Then ask the US to come bail your little Island out of another near death catastrophe. How much a goober can you be!
very nice!
Givi do very nice aluminium cases and the prices are simlar, apart from maybe being better built they can be all keyed alike with a proper lock/key
Hey Stuart, do you have any inside info on when the RE Bear 650 is to be released?
Hi Stuart good video but you missed the touring seat for the front and rear is over £200
As far as i could tell from the configurator this is the standard seat.
That seems like a sort of a lot to me. I mean I haven’t seen the model as they don’t seem to be in the USA yet, so don’t have a strong opinion. But just based on the numbers you have here, are a few other bike options to look at given the price. Maybe it’s fine for value, maybe there are others as good as value, it would bear looking carefully. Too bad, the other RE prices seem sort of unapproachable by other makers. If that is gone and we’re going toward what the market will bear with this brand too, it’s a shame for all those new/young riders if even RE chooses to ignore them.
I stopped at a RE dealer in Arizona two weeks ago and they told me the 450's won't be in the US until January.
So that wee radiator guard is just over 1% of the cost of an entire stock bike...🤔
Put a Heel/toe gear shifter conversion on Himalayan 450 ?? what's your opinion.
whatever pleases you. cant imagine any issues.
Third world quality at first world prices,I say this being an owner of a himilayan410.
Which is off the road needing major top end surgery
a 10 year old model v their latest version? good comparison, very realistic 🤔
@@stuartfillinghamthanks Stu. The trolls do like to mouth off.
Are you serious?
Thanks!
thank you sir!
What are those trail packs ??
These configurators are all the same. I’ve had similar issues with Triumph and BMW.
Are the tubeless spokes available now?
The old Himi was very affordable, this new one is not. Not a problem if it is good enough but is it? It is almost as expensive as a Honda 500NX now here in Sweden and that Honda is almost certainly a better buy. The old Himi was priced at just over half of the then new Honda CB500X, so RE has upped their prices. The new chinese wonder CFMoto 450MT is almost 20% cheaper than this Himi and with all accessories the price gap will be even bigger. RE has of course upped their game with better quality parts and finish but they are not equal to Honda, at least not yet and not in a foreseeable future. Will be interesting to see if RE makes a scrambler based on this platform, and if that might lower the prices some.
The old 411 was £5000. This new one is only £5750... For a far more modern feature packed bike. Still fantastic value really. If anything, it's even better value than the original Himalayan.
@@Trev350 new Himi 72000SEK cheapest base model just for the bike. Bags, crash bars etc another twenty. Old Himi base model started from 48000,-. For 56K you got the loaded one. New Honda is 81.900,-, CFMoto is 62.500,- and Triumph 400X is 64K. These are swedish prices, you get better in UK. 🙂
@@robertlindstrom540 well yes, I can only speak of the situation in the UK really. And for us it represents really excellent value for money in my opinion. Clearly the situation is a little different for you guys. Cheers.
@@robertlindstrom540 and, I would be interested to hear which parts aren't up to the quality of a Honda 500. Personality I believe that the new 450 is on the same level as Honda now, but I'm interested to hear your take on it.
@@Trev350 I`ve had five decades with japanese bikes by now. My ride now is a Kawasaki Vulcan from -94 so a thirty year old bike. But condition is mint, paint and chrome still shine, no rust anywhere and I get nice comments from people occasionally. My last Honda was a VFR750 , a -92 that I sold in -05. It was also immaculate. So I can´t compare directly to RE from an owners point of view. It is just what I feel and of course I can be wrong. But Honda has a good rep for quality and they keep their price very well. Same can be said for Kawasaki. The jury is still out regarding RE products. So that was my take and hence my commentary. 🙂
Thanks
Thank you! Much appreciated!
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7500 seems like a lot for that bike to me also
What is the cost of the pouches?
Seriously?
Yeah, Please tell me?
@@harshitgaba7373 might I suggest re-watching from 2:16 thru’ to around 2:28. 😉✌️
25p from your local woolworths and i think they have a buy one get one free offer on!
Hahahaaaa@@stuartfillingham
thanks Stuart - i think a user would be mad to buy the pouches as one accident and they are going to get damaged easily - soft bags are a much better choice - as for the 'rally pad' hahahaaa no, just no - it is a show not go item, useless item and that comes from someone who races enduro
Good morning, Stuart, and once again, thank you for your videos, which personally help me to better understand, so to speak, the motorcycle market from a more informed perspective. I have a question for you. I own a first-generation Himalayan, but unfortunately, I’ve had several mechanical issues. I am an admirer of Royal Enfield, and their motorcycles continue to fascinate me, but I’m considering switching to something similar. I’m looking for a bike that, while not having pronounced off-road capabilities, retains affordability, style, the ability to handle some dirt roads, but also has the reliability of Japanese engineering. What would you recommend?
all i can say is that RE have advanced rapidly over the last five years and the old Himalayan preceeds that time period by a considerable amount.
I don’t understand?? Why so expensive. Normally bikes are pretty much UK to Australia prices give or take a few hundred ponds ( 1.9 x for au$ )
BSA not available in Australia but available in New Zealand and a few hundred difference to UK prices.
Au$ price for Himalayan 450 starts at a tad over 4000 quid. Can not compare on road delivered prices because of rego, 3rd party insurance, stamp duty and dealer delivery varies so much between states but never exceeds 700 pounds for 12 months delivered. Call it 5000 pound ride away with a few extras🤷🏻
All that for a pack of sandwiches.
Seen worse cost. Like you say, if you need them all good. I looked at a fully loaded 411 over two years ago and that was around 5500€ otr so doesn't seat to bad for factory parts.
Great video thank you.
The hard luggage accessories ruin the look of the bike who would fit these in preference to soft luggage on this size bike , looks like you want a GS 😂
I quite agree, it looks really ugly.
Maybe he doesn't want his luggage stolen? Soft luggage is for dirt, hard luggage is for street and worrying about how it looks is for posers.
@@jakeviolet2195 Fair enough.
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Oh man, those terrible alu cases. Worst option for traveling. Highly dangerous, damage easily and don't fit long term. Cases will be full of alu power that damages anything inside.
RE have learned well from Ford on the configurator , Click here to agree .
It's sneaky .
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thanks again Nathan!
Thanks!
thank You Robert!