Tadej Pogačar Announces Surprising 2024 Schedule | LRCP Clips
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- In this clip Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen discuss Tadej Pogačar's announced schedule for 2024.
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Love that the clip is released before the Ineos preview :D
at least 32% more relevant
As italian cycling fan, this news was the best Christmas gift possible.
Let's go Giro!!! Really happy about that. Pogi in Maglia Rosa will be fantastic
If only I had a good way to watch all those races!
I have a lot of respect for Pog (and his team) for having the courage to throw-down a big gauntlet that spans the entire season. No one would have blamed them if they had come out with a schedule that had the TdF and Olympics as the sole focus for Pog. On the TdF team strategy, I could see them doing something similar to Jumbo at the Vuelta (2023) by having so many quality riders to throw at the GC, essentially telling the other teams, 'we will keep throwing our guys at the GC in this race, if you plan to beat us, you have to beat every one of them.' If they do take that strategy and the goal of someone (anyone) from UAE winning to be their goal, then they could be extremely tough to beat.
Let’s be real, nobody’s beating jonas in the mountains, he just won by 7 mins to Pog!
bro they are paying him a huge fee to show up, he wouldn't have done it otherwise
@@saschaguy1370 Context matters a bit. Pogi was beaten by 7 minutes after not being fully prepared due to his injury. That said, even a prime Poggi is going to struggle to beat Jonas in mid Summer, hot, high altitude stages of the TdF. I think TJV is going to prepare Jonas solely for winning the tour as they did last year, so it's quite literally an uphill battle for Pogi and UAE. I reckon TJV have the TdF in the bag.
Respect? U kidding? Going to the Giro is a sign of giving up. They know they can't win the Tour, so they go for the next best thing instead of fighting for the Tour. He just wants to go where there is no competition.
@@draloalo incorrect he's getting a bag 💰 and course is light work 🥱 every parcours and every edition is not the same
After one day Pog which I enjoyed a lot, we have a GC Pog back. Probably the most versatile rider of all time.
Ever heard about Eddy Merckx?????
@@HolgerDanske874 it was easier to do back in the day.
@@super8hell It was easier for everyone then.
@@HolgerDanske874it’s hard to tell considering how different technology, rules, competition is. But if youre not worrying about that stuff, which is perfectly sensible, youre right
@@super8hellnot really. who else has 7 san remo and 11 grand tours?
Indurain did that!
He used the Giro as a warm up for the Tour.
But that was 30 years ago.
Today you don't see riders do well in both.
Sepp Kuss, I think, did ride all three grand tours. And won the Vuelta.
What a sensation!
Side note with Kuss though is that the first 2 GT's were as domestique. And Kuss after the Vuelta said himself that acting as GC leader is a lot more tiresome, especially mentally and this was when he already was in a beneficial situation mentally with less pressure due to the other 2 TJV leaders.
This isn't to say Kuss' 3 GT's isn't impressive (it is and imo only a real GT rider like Kuss can do that), but to point out that the extra fatigue from riding as leader should never be underestimated.
Lanterne doing his cycling manager analysis for 2024. Tadej is not a robot and pro-cycling is not a computer game Patrick. Kudos to you for being right that Tadej will do the Giro this year.
This is smart thinking from Pog. This gives him a great chance to get a Grand Tour win in 2024.
Reading everyone's comments after the Tour makes me laugh.🤣🤣
Felices fiestas amigos🎉🎉
Regarding the Tdf GC discussion.
Against everyone else than Jonas, i would choose A. Yates beside Pogi as the GC leader, because he can beat them all, is reliable and consistant, but if Jonas is at TDF in topshape, it changes, because Jumbo and Jonas are not afraid because of Adam Yates, they don't care about him.
But i can imagine, that they are a little bit more unsure about Ayuso. The unkown, the flaire, the huge upside... Regarding the situation, i think, you have to try it with the Ayuso - Pogi double and Yates for early pressure and yes, also Leadoutwork.
Not sure, I would take Yates over Ayuso any day, if it came to that choice😊
they were not phased by ayuso in september this year..
@@user-go1vx6tl8n not saying ayuso wouldve podium'd then but it surely wouldve been easier for him if UAE didnt constantly sabotage themselves in the vuelta. not to mention his season was heavily disrupted due to injury which is why i think its very possible we havent seen his full ability yet. id make him co-leader as well mostly because of that possibility instead of yates who everybody knows is very solid but no world beater.
It aleast puts pressure on Jumbo to control the breakaway. More guys that could sneek in a Kuss Situation. You now have 4 guys who you need to cover that feels like a nightmare
I was really hyped for an epic four-way showdown in the tdf between Vingegaard, Pogacar and to a lesser degree Roglic and Evenepoel. Now the Giro will be boring becuase Pog will dominate the second-tier gc guys there and I think he will not be at 100% at the Tour, so Vingegaard will likely dominate the tdf.
to be fair.. with the competition he will have at the giro. how much energy will he really lose??
van aert is 2nd tier?? hahhaha kidding
@@ninnak-ve5ko I can't really understand why everyone, LR included, seems to think doing the Giro is a riskless affair that's likely to end up being a net gain performance-wise. If we've learned anything since the Giro was moved to be the first of the GTs, then it is that the weather will undoubtedly impact physicality negatively. I know the theory is that Pogi does well in cold conditions, but surely there are limits to how much cold, rain and sleet he can subject his body to.
@@paulaaquino5847 As a GT GC rider, Wout is FAR below 2nd tier. 4th tier at best.
@@ninnak-ve5ko Enough that he won't be 100%, to which is a prerequisite for the Tour. But anyway, that's the excuse being lined up already, to which isn't a bad idea to go for if you know you're already a notch less than the reigning champion. A win at the Giro is way more prestigious than taking 2nd at the Tour.
Honestly think it’s great Pogi’s going to the Giro but not so sure about that TDF squad either .. usually the team knows how to work together when Pogi’s there but Ayuso has also mentioned that while Pogi’s the sole leader, he will not let any chances pass him by. That’s obviously fair enough and I’m excited to see how he measures up there as well, but I’m not sure that this helps their chances against Jonas. Only time will tell though.
They have tried for 2 years with Pogi as sole leader and now Pog does the Giro before that. Imo the new strategy to use should be a very strong climbing squad with riders that can have a reasonable chance of attacking and riding GC (like here).
If Visma again try their train tactic they can just wait untill eg. Van Baarle is halfway in his pull and then start raining attacks. If Visma just keeps riding in train, UAE just has to keep attacking and get 3 riders (like Almeida, Ayuso and Yates) ahead and have them ride train there. Such a "train war" should be won by UAE.
But even more, if those 3 riders are ahead, Pog can attack and Jonas would have to react, either dropping all his support and getting isolated while Pog has 3 more teammates with him or trust on Kelderman Kuss against all those UAE riders.
In the first scenario, there are 3-4 riders than can repeatedly attack Jonas, an even worse Galibier situation than Pog had in '22. If Jonas attacks to drop them, UAE should just let him and ride train behind him, essentially making it a 3-4 vs 1 "train battle" that realistically Jonas shouldn't win (unless it is too close to the finish).
That tour team is going to be drama
Think the Giro is a banker for Pog, Tour still looks tricky. I wish Pog would concentrate fully on Tour and make a better battle. A 95% Pog won't win the Tour. :/
That UAE team could mean fireworks at the Tour. Visma is going to have to chase Ayuso, Yates, Sivakov, or Pogacar any time they go up the road.
Argh… no one will chase Sivakov, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. He has not shown the consistency just like Vlasov, and like Fuglsang from the previous generation.
Jonas and pogi are far ahead of the field and with a tour on the legs i think Jonas Will win easily
Because he hasn't been given a chance, theyre always supporting their Brtish riders, Geoghenhart, Thomas, Pidcock.
Sivakov? He's no british.@@YannickOkpara-d5l
Remco should do MSR now
He should always do MSR every year untill he wins regardless. Only if he rides Catalunya not. He'd always be one of (if not) the best in the SOQ squad.
that Ineos preview was riveting 😂😂
its worth more than 1 emergenzy podcast!
Good luck getting Almeida and Ayuso to cooperate
Eh they know the pecking order when Big Dog is there and Almeida has already domestiqued well for Pog before, I don't think they will have a problem, it's more when they're alone without him that there is chaos
@@zwau The problem is Almeida will drop way early but still manage a top 5 or 10. At least Yates will be reliable
Giro di Italia!!!!
I think UAE are just going to send it at the Tour and throw everything they've got early on. Personally however, I am not taking Almeida on that Tour team unless he works purely as a domestique (he can get leadership at vuelta to keep him happy.)
imagine Tadej's UCI points next year if he ended this season at 7.6k oh myyyy
The Sicario 2 reference 👌
Pogi realized he could never beat Vingegaard again
Does this move signal that we as fans are in for an Armstrong-esque 3-5 year period of TDF coronations?
Yes. Jonas is too strong anyway and this just puts the nail in.
Hope he joins the giro but highly unlikely
not really. things have been going a little to well for him in the last 2 tours...things usually change for everyone..
I would’ve bet, after Primoz dropped in TDF 2022, that we were in for a Pog 3 peat. Things change quickly
@@telmolicious 😂😂
i swear this is LRs third reference to those Sicario movies ahahahah
I see Almeida and Yates as primarily domestiques
I agree that Pidcock will win the tour
They have tried for 2 years with Pogi as sole leader and now Pog does the Giro before that. Imo the new strategy to use should be a very strong climbing squad with riders that can have a reasonable chance of attacking and riding GC (like here).
If Visma again try their train tactic they can just wait untill eg. Van Baarle is halfway in his pull and then start raining attacks. If Visma just keeps riding in train, UAE just has to keep attacking and get 3 riders (like Almeida, Ayuso and Yates) ahead and have them ride train there. Such a "train war" should be won by UAE.
But even more, if those 3 riders are ahead, Pog can attack and Jonas would have to react, either dropping all his support and getting isolated while Pog has 3 more teammates with him or trust on Kelderman Kuss against all those UAE riders.
In the first scenario, there are 3-4 riders than can repeatedly attack Jonas, an even worse Galibier situation than Pog had in '22. If Jonas attacks to drop them, UAE should just let him and ride train behind him, essentially making it a 3-4 vs 1 "train battle" that realistically Jonas shouldn't win (unless it is too close to the finish).
Cycling Manager is such a fun computer game to play right?
Your asssumption seems to be that Yates, Almeida and Ayuso are all stronger than Kuss, AND that they will work together flawlessly AND that they can compete on the flat with the JV team AND that Jonas will not beat them by about 10 minutes on the climbs and TTS like he did last year while not always going full gas because of his battle with Pogi.
Their only chance is Jonas being slightly off his best form and Pogi is at his best, or if Jonas is way off or crashes.
@@rulifaller8474
I don't play cycling manager.
*Your asssumption seems to be that Yates, Almeida and Ayuso are all stronger than Kuss*
Not necessarily, though I think they are a similar level and Yates, Almeida and Ayuso together are stronger than VB, Kelderman and Kuss together. Even Sivakov is similar level as Kelderman imo.
*AND that they will work together flawlessly*
That is up to UAE leadership to make work. It isn't like they couldn't, other teams can work as a unit, so they should be able to do so too.
*AND that they can compete on the flat with the JV team*
Visma is stronger on the flat no doubt, but Pollit, Wellens and hopefully Bjerg instead of Soler too aren't weak either. And it isn't like all these UAE climbers are pure climbers eg bad TT riders weak on the flat. Besides it is in the mountains this tactic should be played out, on the flat it is just about limiting potential losses.
*AND that Jonas will not beat them by about 10 minutes on the climbs*
If that is the case, there is nothing they can do about it regardless, doesn't mean they shouldn't try to use a better tactic. Before Galibier everyone also said that they couldn't break Pog and it took only an injured Rog and Jonas cycle attacking him to achieve just that. In the end Jonas is still human with limited energy reserves.
*and TTS like he did last year*
Which was a very great one, the question is can he repeat it. Dumoulin afterwards said he never saw a better ITT before it and Jonas too commented on being able to exceed his power expectations. So equaling it isn't necessarily that easy. On a flat ITT he hasn't shown that kind of dominance either so far.
*while not always going full gas because of his battle with Pogi.*
Not sure what you're trying to say here.
Ofcourse Jonas remains the favourite to win, but he isn't unbeateable either. Anyone that acts like he is, just makes the same mistake people made with Pogacar 2 years ago.
Jumbo atleast has more to cover for in breakaways. U can’t let Ayuso or Almeida 7-8 minutes+ up the road. But unlike last years they are not the only ones that want to stop that. Quickstep and Bora will also help. Could atleast be interesting
I can see a 12 man group with 6 UAE riders in it at the tour
in honor of Marco he has to win both ;-)
Hmmm…McNuggets no Giro/Tour…Vuelta or one weeks?
But should in this case Vingegaard go to the Giro as well this year? As the Giro is not too hard, and your main opponent is doing the same, maybe you can go and mirror your opponent.
Nah ain't worth it for Jonas to change his perfect formula. I know he's already proved he can ride B2B GTs in top shape but he's already got his perfect program to arrive in the TDF in peak shape. If he's gonna do the Giro-Tour double, it has to be in another year.
He will more likely do the tour vuelta double which seems a bit easier when your focus is on winning the tour
What about the triple including the Vuelta?
Only GC Kuss can do that
I don't know if anyone can reasonably ride the triple as GC leader.
I think it's impossible to do that. Being a leader at all 3 GTs and trying to win them all. I think not even Jonas can do that
Pogi is scared of jonas, knows he can't win. He's given upon the tour
UAE 2-3-4-5 TdF coming up in 2024
No Ronde?
I know this idea will be shot down by many, but will we ever see it mandatory that the top ranked riders must race all three grand tours? Is there too much free choice involved with which races riders get to ride? If Sepp Kuss can ride all three grand tours and win the final one of the three, to me that says, yes the top riders can do it. I can't say with full confidence if it would be better for the sport, but it would make the GC battles for each grand tour more of an even playing field.
*If Sepp Kuss can ride all three grand tours and win the final one of the three, to me that says, yes the top riders can do it.*
That is a very dangerous assumption and there are several reasons why it shouldn't be used as an example:
1. Kuss is a GT rider through and through. He is good at the 3 weeks riding, more than at the one weeks, this is definitely not the case for everyone.
2. Kuss rode the first 2 as domestique and that is a lot less stressfull and tiring, he himself pointed out how much harder it is riding as a leader, and this was when he was in a comfortable situation with 2 other leaders ready to take up the slack if he failed.
3. Kuss essentially rode almost no other races, which definitely would be the case for all these leaders too. So no monuments, one weeks, championships, ...
4. How will you decide who are the top ranked? At what point do you draw the line, and isn't it than unfair that the ones just falling out that requirement can focus on just 1 or 2 GT's instead and thus be fresher?
5. Even now we still have no idea how well Kuss' body reacts to the 3 GT's in next season, he might have a lesser one for all we know and even if he doesn't, other riders in the past did have problems afterwards.
It would destroy the sport imo
No, it would end up being bogus with riders playing out fake injuries for a get out of jail card.
Poll: Should riders generally race a race they won last year and defend their title?
Curious what you all think. It seems like it’s respectful to the race and almost a responsibility to come and defend your title. It seems like the proper way to pass the torch to the next winner or extend your reign.
Or should you try to get wins at different races?
This way Tony Martin would still have to race the german ITT championship.😂
Its a nice gesture but I don't think it really matters all that much. Not gonna ask a guy like Jai Hindley to defend his Giro title when he has 3 individual time trials to contend with haha
So when did 'De Ronde' become 'RVV' ? 😉
Why talk about the duo when he can’t beat Jonas at the tour anyway?
Why not? If Pog wins the Giro-Tour double, he makes history. If he wins Giro but falls short at the Tour, it's fine cause he has a GT win for the first time since 2021. The important thing for Pog is to win the Giro first. Also, anything can happen at the Tour. Maybe Pog gains a lot of time in the gravel stage. Maybe Jonas cracks in a mountain stage. Things like crashes or illness can happen, which we obviously don't want, but it can happen.
It is really bold for Pog to try the Giro-Tour double. Even I'm skeptical of it but I appreciate him for trying something new. If he succeeds, he'll have a historic season and I would love to be a witness of that.
UAE tries to reverse roles from 2022 with a whole lot of GC guys in 2024
He’s still young…load it up and go
Entirely understandable to admit to oneself that Jonas is the better three week GC rider, and then go for the Giro and still compete at the TdF.
Who gets the appearance money ?????
The team or rider, or, do they share ?????
I honestly hate this. I want to see the best at their best at the Tour, not the best excuses for not winning the Tour.
Pogacar lost his mind lmao, He won't go any much races now nor Monuments but he will go in Giro? Jesus christ. Like how many days does he have to Rest and train before the Tdf 24? Jonas stomps him again my guess is 10mins plus.
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