I like the inclusion of Albert Pujols. I think players like Pujols (or for myself Ichiro too) are probably, greatly collected among a certain fan base, or collector base. Albert with the Cardinals was, quite a legendary run. I think about how many MVP's he won, but also probably would have had if not, for the incredible hulk (roids) Barry Bonds.
I appreciate that you added LT. I feel like for a list like you're doing, A) do what you want, but B) you look at the player on the field first, and the off the field second. I was lucky to find both 82 LT's in a collection I bought on Craigslist in 2019. The person advertised complete 84 and 85 complete topps baseball sets, as well as the 86 Traded, but found a bunch of other stuff he didn't know about in there - and 84 Traded set, the 2 LT RCs, an 82 Ripken, and 83 Traded Strawberry, etc. It was a good day.
Not gonna hate on L.T.'s NFL contributions but Reggie White was a monster on the defensive line. If Bonds had the personality of Pete Rose, he'd be in the hall of fame.
I have two of the Elway’s, I had one graded and it came back a PSA 8, the other would get a 7. I have several of the Bo cards. I had one graded and it came back a PSA 9. LT was an absolute beast on the field and evidently off the field as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
It’s your list so keep them if you want them. For me, I can’t separate the two and I don’t want bad people in my collection. When I look at my collection, I want to be happy and there are some people who would just bring me down seeing their cards.
The 84 Elway and Marino always have a special place in my heart. I got back into the hobby after my mom passed. My uncles have all the Clemente's, Mays, and Mantles, but my mom collected football cards with my brother and I when I was a kid. She put together a. few sets, the 84 being one of them. The Elway card always reminds me of her. She also snagged the 88 set with Bo's football rc. I have that iconic Bo card in a sealed set that I'm going to pop open soon. I'm taking 3 89 Griffey sets to my brothers for thanksgiving to pop open. Griffey was his jam. I'm hoping the one is a Tiffany.. I'm also going to have my brother take some pictures for me so I can send you them. I feel like a dirtbag, it shouldn't be hard to snap a few photos but without a smartphone it became a headache..
The line is where you want to draw it, it’s your list, in my opinion keep LT , no OJ, Bonds. There’s always been a rumor that Pujols used his cousins birth certificate making him younger, his real name is Jose Pujols. The Bo is definitely iconic card, he was larger than life for a couple years.
Your list is coming right along. You have chosen some good ones. As hard as it may be, try to let a player’s accomplishments and talent in the sport overshadow the failures in their personal lives. Yes, even O.J. should be included if you choose to do so. Thanks Mike.
@@NuthinFancyCollectibles thanks Ken. That’s how I feel for the most part too. There are many athletes with bad histories but I still want their cards.
Love your stuff man!!! Curious if you’d be interested in covering modern cards? You’re junk wax hero and many believe we are currently in a junk wax era.
I literally just informed a dealer at a show this weekend that his 1990 Score Bo Jackson was a fake (the back was black and white). How CRAZY that the fakes are still out there. Must be an iconic card!
Hi Mike. It's your list, I think you can put anyone you want on it. Some of these players like Taylor, Bonds, Simpson and others, I just do not go out and collect them. I am enjoying the top 100. Keep up the great work.
If any of the Halls of Fame looked at the players outside of their playing career, very few would actually be in the Hall of Fame. Was that Bo Jackson photo also in the movie Pretty Woman? I'm wondering if there are any cards on your list that evoke specific memories for the generation that collected the card - so like Jose Canseco's 1986 Donruss is widely regarded as a classic among GenX, while GenZ would have no affinity for it because it's before their time?
I am in the camp of NOT excluding any player. Judge them based on what they do ON the field, not based on what they do off the field. If you look at off the field antics, you could exclude everyone. You could look at Jordan and keep him off the list, but who would, right? Draw the line at what they did in their sport…….
There is no comparison between OJ and LT. Murdering someone is different. LT did a lot of stupid things and got caught. Remember, people get caught maybe 10% of the time they commit a crime. And that's only if they are not very bright or have serious drug problems. LT being a great player kept getting him more chances in the NFL. But I'd guess 10% of NFL players throughout history have done as bad of things as LT. They just weren't caught (or were not caught as often). Barry Bonds was a bad person, not just a cheater. He got voted off his college team at Arizona State. But there are a lot of bad people who ended up as MLB players. I still remember seeing a Giants v Cubs game on WGN and after a flyout, the camera swung back to Bonds who was standing there flipping off the left fielder. A bunch of 2nd generation players were jerks - Brain McRae comes to mind. Elway had a nice run but winning multiple SB's at the end of his career gets him on this list. Where would he be on a list of all-time greats had Terrell Davis not come along for Elway's final two seasons? Prior to that, Elway wasn't really seen as an all time top 10-20 type QB.
@@JunkWaxHero the vote got overruled, but yeah - him being 'difficult' goes way back. I think the Royals had both Craig Griffey and Bobby Bonds Jr in their system at one point.
I used to have an autograph memoribilia store on eBay and I worked the back of shows. I witnessed people request him to sign that image several times and he always refused and he wasn’t usually very nice about it. It’s a shame because it is an iconic image, as you MAY have mentioned 🤔 🤣😂
I'd say don't exclude anyone for anything from any sport. People can decide for themselves. A card's price will reflect the magnitude of the "yuckiness" that people feel. At the time, fans loved the steroid era and it's questionable if rules were broken. It's disingenuous for people to now be appalled by steroids. Sports leagues are littered with people who may not be good guys.
It's my party and I can cry if I want to. It's your list and you can do it how you want to. Barry Bonds SHOULD be in the Hall of Fame and on your list. It's the hall of fame and not the hall of saints. There are cheaters in there already that were in there before Bonds was ever eligible. It's sports. Folks are gonna look for a way to get an advantage and that generally ends up with somebody cheating although it may not be seen as cheating at the time.
@@kbo_collections_george Bonds also played among many PED users. However, none even come close to meeting his legendary status. David Ortiz, for one, I think was guilty of PED use. HOF still enshrined him. Nobody likes Bonds enough to enshrine him, and that's the only problem. It's a popularity contest.
As Sam Harris once said, “[LT] Literally Could Have Had the Corpses of Children in His Basement - I Would Not Have Cared” he would still be on the list.
My thoughts, for what they're worth... I wouldn't want either violent criminals or cheats in my collection; but if we are SOLELY talking about their deeds in their chosen sport alone, then the deeds of a violent criminal - who has committed heinous crimes in their private life, but didn't cheat/was never proven of cheating in their chosen sport - go ahead of someone who cheated in their sport. To be clear, I think that neither of them should be honoured in any way by their sports governing body, and they should be air-brushed from history, as much as possible. As always, thank you for another great video, and congratulations on your additions, Mike. 👍
So, eventually, when everything is legal and steroids are accepted, (guess who travels to Oregon often) how will people feel about the poor PED affected players that have been blacklisted for ages?
Bonds undoubtedly took steroids. Bonds also, undoubtedly, set and broke many records, including homerun record and only member of 500/500 club. Say what you will, but Bonds is one of the best players to have ever played MLB. Next to Mays, hes the best five-tool player MLB has ever seen.
It's a personal list. It's not an official list representing the entire hobby or even your subscribers. If I want to, I can create my own list without the cheaters and players who were criminals off the field.
Please share your thoughts!
I like the inclusion of Albert Pujols. I think players like Pujols (or for myself Ichiro too) are probably, greatly collected among a certain fan base, or collector base. Albert with the Cardinals was, quite a legendary run. I think about how many MVP's he won, but also probably would have had if not, for the incredible hulk (roids) Barry Bonds.
@ yep, great point
Bonds RC - "6:36 - this is the 1960 Topps Traded set" - OOPS 🤦♂
@@RichardRennes lol did I say that??
@@JunkWaxHero Well, if YOU didn`t, someone who looks an awful lot like you did. 🤭
Very informative video Mike. The PSA pops are quite interesting. Amazing to see the differences between the PSA 10’s to the 9’s , 8’s etc.
@@RodBelanger thanks Rod!
Aaron will always be the Homerun king
I appreciate that you added LT. I feel like for a list like you're doing, A) do what you want, but B) you look at the player on the field first, and the off the field second. I was lucky to find both 82 LT's in a collection I bought on Craigslist in 2019. The person advertised complete 84 and 85 complete topps baseball sets, as well as the 86 Traded, but found a bunch of other stuff he didn't know about in there - and 84 Traded set, the 2 LT RCs, an 82 Ripken, and 83 Traded Strawberry, etc. It was a good day.
@@Bostnfn nice find!
Not gonna hate on L.T.'s NFL contributions but Reggie White was a monster on the defensive line. If Bonds had the personality of Pete Rose, he'd be in the hall of fame.
One shouldn’t be able to bring up all the pluses and minuses of LT and leave out how amazing his Tecmo Bowl character was. Iconic.
@@checkmugged lol great comment
LT and O.J. should both be on the list as should be Barry Bonds. Good job on this list Mike.
@@randyworden5232 thanks Randy!
I gotta get that Bo card.
I have two of the Elway’s, I had one graded and it came back a PSA 8, the other would get a 7. I have several of the Bo cards. I had one graded and it came back a PSA 9. LT was an absolute beast on the field and evidently off the field as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Enjoying the list. Glad you sped it up some.
@@Brad-mj3tg thanks Brad!
Awesome cards
It’s your list so keep them if you want them. For me, I can’t separate the two and I don’t want bad people in my collection. When I look at my collection, I want to be happy and there are some people who would just bring me down seeing their cards.
I totally understand
The 84 Elway and Marino always have a special place in my heart. I got back into the hobby after my mom passed. My uncles have all the Clemente's, Mays, and Mantles, but my mom collected football cards with my brother and I when I was a kid. She put together a. few sets, the 84 being one of them. The Elway card always reminds me of her. She also snagged the 88 set with Bo's football rc. I have that iconic Bo card in a sealed set that I'm going to pop open soon. I'm taking 3 89 Griffey sets to my brothers for thanksgiving to pop open. Griffey was his jam. I'm hoping the one is a Tiffany.. I'm also going to have my brother take some pictures for me so I can send you them. I feel like a dirtbag, it shouldn't be hard to snap a few photos but without a smartphone it became a headache..
No rush!
Dont take the Juice off the list because he was a beast in his playing days, he was not an ahole till after his career!
The line is where you want to draw it, it’s your list, in my opinion keep LT , no OJ, Bonds. There’s always been a rumor that Pujols used his cousins birth certificate making him younger, his real name is Jose Pujols. The Bo is definitely iconic card, he was larger than life for a couple years.
@@deanwilson7070 older or not, Pujols still hit 700 home runs
Your list is coming right along. You have chosen some good ones. As hard as it may be, try to let a player’s accomplishments and talent in the sport overshadow the failures in their personal lives. Yes, even O.J. should be included if you choose to do so. Thanks Mike.
@@NuthinFancyCollectibles thanks Ken. That’s how I feel for the most part too. There are many athletes with bad histories but I still want their cards.
Keep them on the list. Their history is our history. The good, the bad and everything in between.
@@jpacrylicstudio145 thanks. That’s my feeling too
Love your stuff man!!! Curious if you’d be interested in covering modern cards? You’re junk wax hero and many believe we are currently in a junk wax era.
@@NelsonVaughn1 thanks Nelson. I talk about modern cards all the time.
I literally just informed a dealer at a show this weekend that his 1990 Score Bo Jackson was a fake (the back was black and white). How CRAZY that the fakes are still out there. Must be an iconic card!
It’s crazy that someone faked a card that can be found anywhere!
OJ and LT could be on list with no problem by me....
Include them all, they are still iconic cards
Hi Mike. It's your list, I think you can put anyone you want on it. Some of these players like Taylor, Bonds, Simpson and others, I just do not go out and collect them. I am enjoying the top 100. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Jim. I don’t collect them either but they each have one card I’d like to add to my collection.
If any of the Halls of Fame looked at the players outside of their playing career, very few would actually be in the Hall of Fame. Was that Bo Jackson photo also in the movie Pretty Woman? I'm wondering if there are any cards on your list that evoke specific memories for the generation that collected the card - so like Jose Canseco's 1986 Donruss is widely regarded as a classic among GenX, while GenZ would have no affinity for it because it's before their time?
@@ryanmcclanahan8739 probably true!
I am in the camp of NOT excluding any player. Judge them based on what they do ON the field, not based on what they do off the field. If you look at off the field antics, you could exclude everyone. You could look at Jordan and keep him off the list, but who would, right? Draw the line at what they did in their sport…….
LT and Bonds? Not my things, but everyone needs to make their own decisions and that’s not a problem for me.
Well said, Dave
There is no comparison between OJ and LT. Murdering someone is different. LT did a lot of stupid things and got caught. Remember, people get caught maybe 10% of the time they commit a crime. And that's only if they are not very bright or have serious drug problems. LT being a great player kept getting him more chances in the NFL. But I'd guess 10% of NFL players throughout history have done as bad of things as LT. They just weren't caught (or were not caught as often).
Barry Bonds was a bad person, not just a cheater. He got voted off his college team at Arizona State. But there are a lot of bad people who ended up as MLB players. I still remember seeing a Giants v Cubs game on WGN and after a flyout, the camera swung back to Bonds who was standing there flipping off the left fielder. A bunch of 2nd generation players were jerks - Brain McRae comes to mind.
Elway had a nice run but winning multiple SB's at the end of his career gets him on this list. Where would he be on a list of all-time greats had Terrell Davis not come along for Elway's final two seasons? Prior to that, Elway wasn't really seen as an all time top 10-20 type QB.
@@joeschmoe2011 good comment. I didn’t know that about Bonds and his college team.
@@JunkWaxHero the vote got overruled, but yeah - him being 'difficult' goes way back. I think the Royals had both Craig Griffey and Bobby Bonds Jr in their system at one point.
The card beside Larry is upside-down 😮
@@jonathanmiller9178 🙃
Any idea why Bo Jackson seems to hate that image so much? That would be a great story for SI if he’d agree to discuss it.
@@CANTON2COOPERSTOWN yeah I need to do a story or video on it at some point. Thanks
I used to have an autograph memoribilia store on eBay and I worked the back of shows. I witnessed people request him to sign that image several times and he always refused and he wasn’t usually very nice about it. It’s a shame because it is an iconic image, as you MAY have mentioned 🤔 🤣😂
@@CANTON2COOPERSTOWN did I mention how iconic it was? 😂😂
Nice cards. I’d include OJ, Lt, and the steroid guys on the list.
I'd say don't exclude anyone for anything from any sport. People can decide for themselves. A card's price will reflect the magnitude of the "yuckiness" that people feel. At the time, fans loved the steroid era and it's questionable if rules were broken. It's disingenuous for people to now be appalled by steroids. Sports leagues are littered with people who may not be good guys.
@@johnrambo7630 well said
It's my party and I can cry if I want to. It's your list and you can do it how you want to. Barry Bonds SHOULD be in the Hall of Fame and on your list. It's the hall of fame and not the hall of saints. There are cheaters in there already that were in there before Bonds was ever eligible. It's sports. Folks are gonna look for a way to get an advantage and that generally ends up with somebody cheating although it may not be seen as cheating at the time.
@@kbo_collections_george Bonds also played among many PED users. However, none even come close to meeting his legendary status. David Ortiz, for one, I think was guilty of PED use. HOF still enshrined him. Nobody likes Bonds enough to enshrine him, and that's the only problem. It's a popularity contest.
Glad someone else saw she got you again 😂
@@jamesgottshall5688 😂😂
As Sam Harris once said, “[LT] Literally Could Have Had the Corpses of Children in His Basement - I Would Not Have Cared” he would still be on the list.
How about an all-time worst sports figures card list. LT, OJ, Pete Rose, Dixie Walker, Rae Carruth, Wander Franco, etc.
@@DansVintageBaseballPC Rae Carruth is always one I think of
@@DansVintageBaseballPC you should do this video. I like the idea
Pete Rose is on your worst list? Seek help.
@@checkmugged Pete Rose had a relationship with a 14 year old girl in the 1970s.
@@checkmugged Pete Rose went to Federal prison for tax evasion.
My thoughts, for what they're worth...
I wouldn't want either violent criminals or cheats in my collection; but if we are SOLELY talking about their deeds in their chosen sport alone, then the deeds of a violent criminal - who has committed heinous crimes in their private life, but didn't cheat/was never proven of cheating in their chosen sport - go ahead of someone who cheated in their sport.
To be clear, I think that neither of them should be honoured in any way by their sports governing body, and they should be air-brushed from history, as much as possible.
As always, thank you for another great video, and congratulations on your additions, Mike. 👍
@@Johndeplume. thanks for your thoughts as always, John. I definitely don’t disagree. It’s a tough thing to reconcile.
LT was a scholar and a gentleman.......but, I asked my dog how his life was and he said "rufff."
lol
First comment, looks like your wife gotcha again on the slab display behind you 😊. Keep bringing us great content my friend!
@@nrthriller I really need to look at my cards immediately before I record 😂😂
@ 🤣nah actually it is endearing imo
So, eventually, when everything is legal and steroids are accepted, (guess who travels to Oregon often) how will people feel about the poor PED affected players that have been blacklisted for ages?
Your wife got you again. The card next to Larry Bird is upside down.
😂
Bonds undoubtedly took steroids. Bonds also, undoubtedly, set and broke many records, including homerun record and only member of 500/500 club. Say what you will, but Bonds is one of the best players to have ever played MLB. Next to Mays, hes the best five-tool player MLB has ever seen.
You do you but he is not on my list.
@@DennisO-g9m I understand
@ I think something we forget as collectors is not the card but why we collect the card.
It's a personal list. It's not an official list representing the entire hobby or even your subscribers. If I want to, I can create my own list without the cheaters and players who were criminals off the field.
@@cryptonite8495 exactly
Bonds did steroids well before the 1998 season.
Why do you think that?