I've got a Prophet 10 Rev 4... also had Prophet 6, the P10 (and P5) sounds better than the P6 and certainly better than the take 5. The only other sequential synth I love tonally is the OB-6. It teams up well with the Prophet 5/10.
Great to see William Kurk again! On my channel, there's a video where I've recreated all the original prophet 5 patches on the Take 5, if you want to have those vintage sounds as a starting place right at hand. EDIT to add that's one of my favorite bass riffs, Don't stop the music by Yarbrough & Peoples. lol great stuff
That's what I'm thinking. Especially on resonant sounds, it's like a whole other synth. There's got to be a way to make them more closely match each other than what he's doing.
It strikes me as a very unfair comparison to play a new, perfectly calibrated Prophet Rev4 back to back with a Take 5 with the vintage knob turned all the way up for every patch (!). It just makes it sound out of tune and weak in comparison. There are some big differences in the sound the make, but these very approximate comparisons just seem designed to push people towards the more expensive synth.
That flex with the Dave Smith autograph, lol! Yes, I agree with the others that there’s a certain character and warmth that the Prophet 5 has that the Take 5 doesn’t. But honestly, if you’re not a stickler for finer details, you could be very happy with the Take 5.
The T5 and the P5 are relatives, so it just doesn't make sense to put down one of them. If you like P5, you'll like T5, and vice versa. They have different subtleties, but are very plainly part of the same network. I agree with the commenters who say that the P5 has an elusive secret sauce, but the T5 is also great. It's very much like the P5, more than the P6 or even the Prophet 600. I love them both. Great demo as well.
P5 is a more refined synth, love the filter and attack, the take 5 sounds gritty and also smooth when you want to, I love it, but it sounds like it has a double attack with plucky sounds, first you hear a noisy attack and then the real attack from the ADSR, maybe they could make the digital attack a little slower so it times better with the analogue oscillator.
@10:01 was the highlight for me. I love both, but I like the price of the Take 5 more. I have a Mopho x4 and I love that too. I like everything DSI / Sequential has made is always great. I would love to get a Prophet X, but it ain't cheap.
Hi I have a MoPhox4 and a P10R4. However I was thinking of letting go the MoPhox4 and getting a Take 5. Would love your thoughts on that if I should or not. Budget no issue but I want a 3 octave keyboard as a controller that is also a strong synth that is around 25” wide. So I was thinking of replacing the Mophox4 with the Take 5. Would I miss the Mophox4? Thanks so much
@@musicxtn I'm not a good enough musician to ask, but... I think it would mostly depend on how you feel about DCOs vs VCOs and the other newer features. The Mopho X4 is pretty basic, which is fine for me.
Next comparison suggestion? ... Oberheim OBX8 & Sequential OB6 surely ... (and while both are badged as seperate manufacturers in reality they're both joint ventures to a degree between Tom & Dave)
That could be true, and I should hope for the price difference despite stereo and so many more features on the T5 it's something in the sound. But still I think they could have got closer, matching sounds can be a bitch. The P5 sounds so damn good in this but I think I heard the T5 sound better in other demos
Really interesting hearing them back to back ... I didn't expect so much difference in sound quality, although why I didn't expect that I don't know as there is a massive difference in cost! No disrespect the the Take 5, it's a great synth for the money, but I get the impression the Prophet 5/10 would sound good whatever you played ... which is just down to sheer tonal depth and quality.
I've owned both: the Take 5 sounds much better than this. It sounds like the calibration needed to be ran or too much vintage knob. The patches could've been closer - def no offense to Will. That said, the Prophet 5's sound is unreal in person. Definitely worth it if you don't need the extras.
Need to spend a lot more time and care tweaking than they did here, to get the patches to sound the same, if you’re gonna do a side-by-side. Missed opportunity.
I think the Prophet 5 has a warmer rounder tone for my ears... I can hear Stevie Wonder Gap Band Teddy Riley and a few others from the Prophet 5 as well
Nah, on T5 you can easily reproduce, at a good 98%, ALL patches you played on the P5. Yours (on the T5) sounds totally different, poor sound design was made (intentionally or unintentionally) in order to reproduce P5 patches on T5.
This is horrible, but I walked into a vintage synth store, messed around on a Prophet 5 and wasn't that impressed compared to my Prophet 12 :(. Sacrelige!
Glad I didn't buy a Take 5. The difference between them with my subwoofer engaged is night and day. I guess the T5 is an ok synth, but more comparable to the Diva plugin than a Prophet. Diva is quite good for the price.
This is the dumbest comparison of two synths I've ever seen. Clearly, no real attempt was made to get the T5 to emulate the P5. All this served to prove is that some people shouldn''t be allowes to demonstrate things they are incapable of.
Finally, Will Kurk!! I missed Will’s presentations!!
The P5 is the dream while the T5 is the reality. Nice vid!
The Take 5 sounds very good. I have a Prophet 6 and a Prophet 10 rev4, and the 10 makes the hair on my arms stand up every time. It's just so amazing
William's jacket game is always on point
I've got a Prophet 10 Rev 4... also had Prophet 6, the P10 (and P5) sounds better than the P6 and certainly better than the take 5. The only other sequential synth I love tonally is the OB-6. It teams up well with the Prophet 5/10.
Great to see William Kurk again!
On my channel, there's a video where I've recreated all the original prophet 5 patches on the Take 5, if you want to have those vintage sounds as a starting place right at hand.
EDIT to add that's one of my favorite bass riffs, Don't stop the music by Yarbrough & Peoples. lol great stuff
Yo!! it's Jorb!!
This is his vid if anyone is interested: th-cam.com/video/6Al-sB6-smw/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely. I was indeed surprised to see him play that one. Nice!
when I watch this again, this 100% feels like an advert for the more expensive synth
It seems the T5 here has too much vintage knob, and the presets have not been worked enough to match the P5’s
That's what I'm thinking. Especially on resonant sounds, it's like a whole other synth. There's got to be a way to make them more closely match each other than what he's doing.
Man… I watch another video on the take 5 and in this one- sounds totally different XD
Is the t5 litterally a prophet 5?
@@ageshero nope. Cheaper components on the T5.
It strikes me as a very unfair comparison to play a new, perfectly calibrated Prophet Rev4 back to back with a Take 5 with the vintage knob turned all the way up for every patch (!). It just makes it sound out of tune and weak in comparison. There are some big differences in the sound the make, but these very approximate comparisons just seem designed to push people towards the more expensive synth.
this is some weird marketing - feels like an ad
I feel like you had the Vintage knob on the Take 5 turned all the way up?
That flex with the Dave Smith autograph, lol! Yes, I agree with the others that there’s a certain character and warmth that the Prophet 5 has that the Take 5 doesn’t. But honestly, if you’re not a stickler for finer details, you could be very happy with the Take 5.
What I like better is William Kurk doing these videos! Great job as always!
The T5 and the P5 are relatives, so it just doesn't make sense to put down one of them. If you like P5, you'll like T5, and vice versa. They have different subtleties, but are very plainly part of the same network. I agree with the commenters who say that the P5 has an elusive secret sauce, but the T5 is also great. It's very much like the P5, more than the P6 or even the Prophet 600. I love them both. Great demo as well.
Very glad to see Mr Kurk back
More Will Kurk please!
Both sound SO good :)
P5 is a more refined synth, love the filter and attack, the take 5 sounds gritty and also smooth when you want to, I love it, but it sounds like it has a double attack with plucky sounds, first you hear a noisy attack and then the real attack from the ADSR, maybe they could make the digital attack a little slower so it times better with the analogue oscillator.
Love your chording and solo lines; Beautiful ! Thank you for this video.
@10:01 was the highlight for me. I love both, but I like the price of the Take 5 more. I have a Mopho x4 and I love that too. I like everything DSI / Sequential has made is always great. I would love to get a Prophet X, but it ain't cheap.
Hi I have a MoPhox4 and a P10R4. However I was thinking of letting go the MoPhox4 and getting a Take 5. Would love your thoughts on that if I should or not. Budget no issue but I want a 3 octave keyboard as a controller that is also a strong synth that is around 25” wide. So I was thinking of replacing the Mophox4 with the Take 5. Would I miss the Mophox4? Thanks so much
@@musicxtn I'm not a good enough musician to ask, but... I think it would mostly depend on how you feel about DCOs vs VCOs and the other newer features. The Mopho X4 is pretty basic, which is fine for me.
@@dbjungle thank you so much! I appreciate it!
Next comparison suggestion? ... Oberheim OBX8 & Sequential OB6 surely ... (and while both are badged as seperate manufacturers in reality they're both joint ventures to a degree between Tom & Dave)
I love my P5 and P08 so glad to have them
the dave smith signature on the prophet 😩 🐐
R.i.p dave smith
I'll give the P5 an 11/10 and the T5 a solid 8/10. ( but still 3 behind the winner)
Glad Kurk is back !
So happy Willam is back
Where have you been dude, you rock!!!
I love your videos, thanks for this!
The P5 has a warmth that just can’t be duplicated with the T5.
That could be true, and I should hope for the price difference despite stereo and so many more features on the T5 it's something in the sound. But still I think they could have got closer, matching sounds can be a bitch. The P5 sounds so damn good in this but I think I heard the T5 sound better in other demos
Really interesting hearing them back to back ... I didn't expect so much difference in sound quality, although why I didn't expect that I don't know as there is a massive difference in cost! No disrespect the the Take 5, it's a great synth for the money, but I get the impression the Prophet 5/10 would sound good whatever you played ... which is just down to sheer tonal depth and quality.
Loved the Terminator theme :)
The Take 5 sounds out of tune with the first few sounds. Maybe it needed a few more calibration runs to flesh out its tuning tables?
Too much of the vintage knob maybe
@@vincewizz8534 That’s probably it.
Really dug the terminator music you were playing!
Loving the Take 5 . I would love a 61 key even more.
I love you man. I've missed seeing you. Funk on man.....funk on
Escape From New York vibes for days.
5:33 Chopin?
I've owned both: the Take 5 sounds much better than this. It sounds like the calibration needed to be ran or too much vintage knob. The patches could've been closer - def no offense to Will.
That said, the Prophet 5's sound is unreal in person. Definitely worth it if you don't need the extras.
Can you please do a presentation on the (1980's) Arp Omni ? Thank you in advance.
Need to spend a lot more time and care tweaking than they did here, to get the patches to sound the same, if you’re gonna do a side-by-side. Missed opportunity.
HOLY SHIT WE MISSED YOU WILL!
I think the Prophet 5 has a warmer rounder tone for my ears... I can hear Stevie Wonder Gap Band Teddy Riley and a few others from the Prophet 5 as well
So...did he make the Take 5 sound like a toy piano on purpose or is the difference that big for real?
WKE makes them both sound 💣
Chorus bass... so good on the P5 and so bad on the take 5!
I was just thinking about this man
The sounds don't even sound remotely similar. I'm sure you could make them much more similar.
Unfortunately Dave Smith is gone 😔 5:30
Nah, on T5 you can easily reproduce, at a good 98%, ALL patches you played on the P5. Yours (on the T5) sounds totally different, poor sound design was made (intentionally or unintentionally) in order to reproduce P5 patches on T5.
The only possible answer is … get both!
i like whatever WK is playing better
Why buy take 5 when you can get REV2 desktop for same?
Rev 2 got dco… this is another sound.
Not even close save your money for the Prophet 5
Or you could just get a $4000 prophet x with Dave smiths original prophet 5 loaded in it for an additional $40
Like that SOS band you played…don’t you stop it
The Take5 is what you bring to a pool party on Saturday, the Phrophet is what you bring to church on Sunday.
Instantly all interest was lost with the take five. Prophet is prophetic, beautful.... Organic... Thanks
what a strange way to say 'buy the more expensive one'
This is horrible, but I walked into a vintage synth store, messed around on a Prophet 5 and wasn't that impressed compared to my Prophet 12 :(. Sacrelige!
try to compare the same sounds ? some of them are way of
P5 sounds great. Don’t like the sonic character of the Take 5 at all.
more tweaking could have been done to get T5 closer I do believe, but it's no small task to get the sounds to match up
Wow, the Take 5 is just as harsh as people said it was.
Wow the Take 5 sounds like a donkey’s ass compared to the Prophet! Great playing though. That helped a lot.
not even close, dude... you have to work those T5 patches more... too lazy for a comparison video
Glad I didn't buy a Take 5. The difference between them with my subwoofer engaged is night and day. I guess the T5 is an ok synth, but more comparable to the Diva plugin than a Prophet. Diva is quite good for the price.
This is the dumbest comparison of two synths I've ever seen. Clearly, no real attempt was made to get the T5 to emulate the P5. All this served to prove is that some people shouldn''t be allowes to demonstrate things they are incapable of.
Your comparison is totally wrong here
Uh. If I were Sequential, I'd be somewhat annoyed at this video.
this video is a joke
I have the T5 and I am pretty happy with it, but I just noticed it sounds like the P5 witout guts 🥸