Germany's Biggest Naval Failure of WW2, Operation Wikinger | Sails and Salvos
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A lesson in why communication between your forces is so critical, today we discuss Operation Wikinger. A battle in which the Germans managed to lose horribly when no enemy forces were even present.
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hehe big gun go boom
Nice
I know it’s common, but I’d love to see you cover the two most famous dreadnoughts. Texas and Warspite
you should cover the time a bunch of U-boats were deliberately bombed by a USAAAF B-17 while rescuing survivors from a sunken British cargo/passenger ship. they were flying a red-cross flag, had clearly identified themselves on radio and even had a deck full of survivors and lifeboats daisy-chained behind them. The US bomber saw and heard ALL THIS and attacked them anyway, dropped bombs right on the lifeboats. this was in 41/42 there is an excellent 2 part movie about it. the one time a bunch of u-boats including some Italian ones put themselves at great risk to save lives and they got bombed by the US. TYPICAL.
E'FF the Nazis.
I love how some ships survived hundreds of bombs and air attacks but of course the one time a frendly bomber attacks a freandly ship it gets sunk instantly
Dont remember what book it was but im reminded of the line "though our guns could reach, we never fired at the planes overhead. The odds of hitting an enemy were impossible. Wed shoot down a friendly on the first shot though."
It's called plot armour
Betrayal is always damaging my friend.
Can't believe that the Kreigsmarine got Gaijined.
A clear enemy made it easy to for us see them and defend against them but when your own friend attacks you, you will never expects it
This is my team when we're losing.
That is just my teams......
A couple more engagements like that and the Royal Navy could stay in port.
😁😁
Just goes to prove, even Germans can be novices and create their own clown-hour.
The did have their moments
almost as if they were human and not some superhuman gods of war that everyone makes them out to be
@@capitaljushman5756 "everyone " ?? German ruling class were generals - Junka.
@@RemusKingOfRome ruling class is a very broad term, elaborate please
also, I say everyone because it's kind of a widespread myth that Germany was this unstoppable killing machine in ww2 that was only stopped because of poor decisions on hitler's behalf... which isn't true. they were good but not legendary
@@RemusKingOfRome ahh does someone believe in the mass military might of the mass motorised army where 80% of all infantry uses horse
Not gonna lie I think Germany’s biggest failure of ww2 was losing ww2
Funny,I thought it was that whole holocaust thing..its all about perspective I guess.
Best thing they've done in my book
No it was starting the damn thing in the first place
@@noah6 Electing Adolf or any criminal into positions of power .. thanks Great Depression - US Capitalist president.
@@1230986666 What? Like, what was the best thing?
Well, you can't rely on the enemy to do all the work
"It hurt itself in its own confusion!"
*if zhey shoot back, it's ein brit, if zhey don't shoot back, he's ein disciplined brit*
-Qxir
Oh I love this. Rando bomber destroys half a convoy because it was wandering around. And/or because German high command was assholes.
Operation Wikinger reads like a Monty Python script with the obvious major blunders but also so many smaller things going wrong.
Good video , however one picture that was meant to be a German destroyer is actually a British v class destroyer !
I knew something was wrong..
And the footage starting from 3:40 is actually WW1 German footage, a Konig class dreadnought, if I am not mistaken.
@@joegatt2306 seems like it, I thought it was a Deutschland class instead but after looking more it seems like you're right.
I’d call the little fiasco known as _Rheinubung_ slightly more problematic. Something something lost a 50,000 ton battleship and only sank an obsolete battlecruiser that was completely worn out by then anyway.
I find it kinda stupid that RN sent in Hood, and also not priorities it for refit during the prewar era considering how important said ship is to British morale
Yeah but at least it was the enemy that sunk the Bismarck
@@AHappyCub The RN couldn't send any other ship but Hood. It was the only 15"-armed vessel both capable of engaging enemy battleships and reaching speeds exceeding 30 knots
Only because a Swordfish launched a torpedo and achieved basically the *ONLY* hit that could stop Bismarck from safely returning to Germany.
@@AHappyCub There were many plans to refit Hood, but general situation always forced RN to prolong refit for later.
If the Brits had observed it would have been the only time a Royal Navy captain would have given the order for deckchairs and popcorn.
it turns out there was a british submarine in the area, but it was a couple nautical miles away surfaced watching the chaos ensue
@@taloob493 Well, after the Russian Baltic fleet sauntered by during the Russo Japanese war the Royal Navy had seen a worse performance.
Belligerent A: Kriegsmarine
Belligerent B: Luftwaffe
chaos ensues
I'd suppose that the Reich Air minister was pleased with the outcome of this battle.
Ja
What we have here... is failure... to communicate!
And then the Germans lost even more destroyers in the 2nd Battle of Narvik because the british were got the mad idea to just simply sail HMS Warspite into the Fjord of Narvik
Not to mention a lot of Tribals, which were basically designed to club lesser destroyers to death.
Actually it's because the German destroyers weren't designed for long voyages and had run out of fuel. The ship that was supposed to resupply them was sunk enroute. They were caught refuelling from another ship and had to beach themselves.
"Superior German Intelligence"
Germany had some of the worst intelligence during the war. A lot of it came from their own head Canaris when he became a double agent when he became disilusioned after the massacres in Poland.
@@matthiasvanhecke1283 Huh, I guess I do respect a single german officer after all.
@@gearandalthefirst7027 still not really a good guy.
in the interwar period, he helped to form the freikorps, right wing paramilitary units that brutally put down communist activity, carried out massacres of suspected socialists, and assassinated leftists politicians with the backing of the military and Weimar government. he was part of the court that largely acquitted the men who tortured and murdered Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebknecht. one soldier was sentenced to 2 years imprisonment for attempted manslaughter and the commanding officer got 4 months for failing to report a corpse.
similar to Rommel, Canaris admired Hitler and believed that authoritarian dictatorship was the best form of government. he participated in the failed Kapp Putsch to overthrow the republic in 1920. Canaris was also known to give lectures on Nazism to the crew of his ship. he was very much into the nationalism, militarism, racism, and antisemitism of the Nazi party. it was Canaris who suggested that jews should be branded by a star of david.
however, he did bravely take measures to oppose the regime. despite his militant nationalism and desire to see Germany become a great power, he was strongly opposed to war. as early as 1938 during the Sudetenland Crisis he was prepared to overthrow Hitler to avoid the outbreak of another great war. the sight of Warsaw in flames and the war crimes being committed against Poles drove him to tears. he tried to protest but was told by Field Marshal Keitel that this was exactly what Hitler wanted. he tried again to complain about the treatment of soviet prisoners, but was told by Keitel that he needed to stop thinking about the situation as a chivalrous battle and start thinking of it as the eradication of Marxist ideology. Canaris sabotaged efforts to get Francoist Spain in the war and dissuaded them from participating in a plan to take British Gibraltar. he passed on intelligence to british MI6 agents and helped jews to escape by training them as intelligence agents before giving them papers to escape Germany.
Thank you for covering this episode, I never read about this friendly fire incident previously.
" Sir ! The Germans are sinking themselves now ! We might not even need the Royal Navy at this rate !"
Who's gonna win: A fleet of destroyers, or two fly bois. :D
Now i get why in the british anthem it's sayd "britannia rule the waves".
Friendly fire that even the USA would be proud of
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IJN Mogami says hello... Oh it was actually IJA on those transport ships in Sunda Strait? Nvm...
Agree this was a huge screwup; assigning it some sort of superlative certainly seems appropriate!
But wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Operation Barbarossa was Germany's Biggest Failure of WW2? No one knows what would have happened had Germany not instigated war with the Soviet Union, so maybe things would still have turned out badly. But we do know that their strategic assessment of their prospects to achieve their goals with respect to USSR ("kick in the front door and cause the whole rotten establishment to collapse" or something along those lines) certainly did not turn out as planned.
Making an operational error in a 5 ship sortie into the North Sea and losing two ships and 500 crew is costly.
Making an enormous strategic blunder into the East and losing millions of personnel, and pretty much everything else is priceless!
In all fairness, the title does state "Naval Failure."
@@wintersbattleofbands1144 I think he might have edited it.
If only the ussr lost, would be nice not having to deal with a century of communism and by the looks of it their about to invade Taiwan in the next few years
@@DUSTKILLL IF there is an alternate timeline where both Nazism and Communism "died" by duking it out with each other till they both dropped (and meanwhile the Imperial Japanese surrendered as in our timeline): then YES! That is where I want to go.
There was an article on British fishing boats attacked by the Luftwaffe, in a March 1940 issue of Life Magazine.
Nice new series, will definitely continue to watch new episodes
Man that bomber crew must have had massive balls tho. Flying over 6 destroyers and not backing off after receiving fire from them and even coming back to bomb them, be successful with it AND get away safely? Damn.
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Cone,you should be a history teacher.God knows we'll need good teachers... after the purge.
Well said
have the brits known about this when it happened, they would be laughing their asses off
Too bad it never made the world press.
Once again--WHY, is this not widely known? The embarrassed Germans weren't going to brag about it. Another, but better known catastrophe, was the German Naval attack on Norway. Many top of the line ships were lost, or out of action, for many months.
This reminds me of the incident when RAF Typhoons (?) sank a flotilla of British minesweepers in the middle of the Channel in 1944 after D-day. What were they thinking they were shooting at ?
The British minesweepers were misidentified as German E boats.
The Germans had considerable success with such vessels most notably in the Lyme Regis disaster
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Tiger
@@Georgieastra Yeah, "Tiger" didn't work too well for the Allies for multiple reasons. Wasn't there already a heavy loss of life due to friendly fire alone even before the S-Boote arrived ? It was a life firing landing exercise and somebody messed up the time tables. I don't want to blame the Royal Navy because we can't do that, can we ?
@JZ's Best Friend The difference being the RN could afford the loss of three minesweepers in 1944, while the Germans couldn't afford the loss of two large destroyers at any time.
when you forget to turn off friendly fire
The terror of the seas, Bismarck and the Kreigsmarine!
Nice sabaton song. But wrong operation. Still appreciate the sabaton song
Loving this series!
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Great video!!! What is the likelihood of seeing an episode on the USS Constitution, or maybe "The Blue Ghost"?
When your close friends harms you more than your enemy:
OP your title should read: Germany’s great defeat that no one has heard of. Thx for sharing.
I love a happy ending.
So how long have you hated Germans? These guys died a century ago and the governments today still proclaim their superior ethics, illed father have fascism play its role and probably phased out by the leaders death then deal with the communist century
@@DUSTKILLL I hate Nazis. They were trying to starve and kill me when I was a child. I have nothing but contempt for Neo-Nazis. Your opinion of Nazis would change if you were more intelligent and better educated. Unfortunately neither of these objectives seems to be accessible.
Glad to see someone is covering this. This was a very tragic event for the many sailors and soldiers on board. Spirits were high that they would be possibly able to do a little piracy on the high seas and capture some fishing boats. I read about this 30 odd years ago in a most excellent book on German naval operations during WW2 written by a German. It was borrowed from the local library and I really wish I had made a note of it so I could track it down. It was about 2" thick and covered a lot of history, from the German perspective. Written int he 50s-70s period I believe. Anyone with any thoughts on it please comment below.
Not that tragic for the rest of the world. Nazi Germany was evil
At least they didn't mistake British fishing boats for Japanese warships like the Russians did........
On the other hand, people from British intelligence were probably pissing themselves laughing while transcribing the Enigma messages about this operation, tho.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming true, but many of these sailors were still young men who had lives and dreams, if you want someone to blame, blame the nazi party and it's top leaderships
@@justit1074 Couldn't've done the evil stuff they did without the support of their armed forces.
The Luftwaffe used different colored tracers for different weapons,... so I wonder how the Germans wouldn't figure out the AC was German. I don't know about the German Navy's tracers but I'll bet there different than British tracers. .. so the AC crew should have suspected the same.
German version of American and Canadian invasion of Aleutians
Vexi - Which was a success. I'm not aware of any friendly fire incidents at Attu nor at Kiska
funny how Germany lost a battle to themselves................
now you know that is hella sad
The German Navy lost that battle, the German Air Force won. To Germany over all it was a tie.
German Military researching American arms "Going by the numbers": Audible groan en masse
American researching German Military "Going by the numbers": Audible sigh of relief
You had me right up to the part about the only mistake more embarrassing than losing a 3rd of your force (that's 578 souls) is not buying a wallet... I'm not sure that was thought through fully.
It's amazing how 2000 displacement was considered massive back then and now we have displacements in the tens of thousands
indeed,
At Eknomus in 256 BC, the largest Sea battle in Human history (up and till today) a "massive" displacement was "some" kg above 50 Tones .
700 ships took part in that Ancient battle, on both sides, in which Quinqueremes being the largest (50 to 55 T displacement)
However the amount of forces involved, about three hundred thousands all together, and the total causalities of 50 ships sunk, 60 captured, and more than 30 thousands dead (20k captured) , makes Eknomus the absolute largest Sea battle ever ...
And that with (approx.) 50 T displacement per ship and a total displacement of all ships involved: about 30k Tones...
massive? not really he italian soldati class was 2500 and many had larger.
It wasn't 'massive ships of the era like battleships were 10s of thousands of tons.
Here's another mystery solved for future reference. The "t" in often is silent.
Royal Navy: Kriegsmarine? This is the worst navy I´ve ever heard of!
Kriegsmarine: But you´ve heard about me...
As the Japanese retreated after being repulsed in their first landing attempt at Wake Island, the US Marines sent their four remaining F4F Wildcat fighters after them. MAJ Henry Elrod dropped his two 100 pound bombs on the destroyer HIJMS Kisaragi. They could have ben expected to inflict some, but not serious, damage, but one hit the fantail, detonating the tin can's store of depth charges. Kisaragi instantly went from being a destroyer to being destroyed, period
Nice can’t wait to watch
I was looking were to buy this wallet
Well, in the spirit of the Kamchatka, do you see torpedoboats?
One dislike from that wereahboo that thinks germany never had a failure
6:34 were did you get that french tanker helmet ive always wanted one
Super cool wallet too!
Love it!
And this is why Colonel Wilhelm Klink transferred to Stalag duty.
Z1 sounds rather fragile. Was it taken out by a SINGLE 50kilo bomb?
I was assuming it detonated a magazine, lucky hit
HANS IS ZAT HEINKEL DIVING?
Are you gonna make a video on USS William D. Porter?
Ah, the "Master Race" again.
not a lots of your content have closed captioning, can you able to format the auto captioning into closed captioning please? it is very hard to watch with only the auto captioning sadly.
Most of the main series I have have captions. I just have to do them manually so I don't always remember to do the videos. I'll add them later today though
@@ConeOfArc you don't necessary have to do it manually, you can take the auto caption and format it into closed captioning.
@@edscoble the auto captions are very poor and often make major mistakes in the wording so for my content it's pretty much required that I do them manually.
This is weird I watched Qxir vid on this only the other day now another vid about it. Like hey look at this funny event told by a cynical irishmen and now over to Cone for the facts. I'm not complaining.
It'd be comical if, you know, so many humans hadn't died horrifically in the midst of this massive clusterfuck.
i mean, being a Heinkel, NO SHIP COULD SEE THE CROSS, THE COLOR SCHEME AND SHAPE OF THE PLANE !!! and when the plane returned, did he report his hits ??
@@GNMi79 ok, that if said in the video, then, i missed it. that would make a lot of difference. thank you
USS Johnston would have soloed these chuckleheads.
The enemy team: *Fall of France*
the enemy team once I join them: *Operation Wikinger.*
This clusterfuck just sums up the experience of the kreigsmarine
Compared to this fiasco, the Imperial Russian Fleet did not fare that badly against the British fishing boats off Dogger Bank after all...
This is some 2nd pacific squadron level shit.
This is exactly why all italian ships had red and white stripes, to not be bombed by allied planes
yeah except the Italian regia aeronautica would stop attacking if they realized the ship was friendly. german destroyers usually had german markings on deck aka swastikas etc.
Couldn't they at least provide Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine with spotting silhouettes? I think that alone would have helped them avoid this friendly fire incident.
I am way too high to comprehend this video. Can I read a summary somewhere?
Very Cool and early!!!
If THIS is the biggest failure I wonder how we could lose the war. :D
communication is key
"Britain: *not present*"
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Operation Viking? Isnt that the same name used for the assassination of Hitler? Hmmm, maybe naming the operation Viking is a curse.
no that was "Operation Valkyrie"
@@r4y256 Ooooh yeah, huh. Derp.
The nazis sure loved appropriating norse culture and then making it worse lmao.
@@gearandalthefirst7027 They consider themselves Nordic.
Nicely presented only the A class destroyer at 1.11 is British.
I have to be entirely honest, I'm quite glad that you used just the numbers, frankly, your pronunciations of the names did make me wince somewhat.
With friends like these.....
Cone can u make more ship videos
What, no tanks? Not even amphibious tanks? ;-(
Don’t worry, Steiner’s got this.
This is what happens when you spend all your money on Tanks, Submarines and Stukas and forget to give something to the surface Navy...
like radios?
A great video, and what a sad loss of human life, even though my country (GB) was the enemy at the time, I still pity their fate. I don't have enough money or credit cards to make the wallet worthwhile, but if anyone else is worried about losing their wallet, simply get married. You will not be allowed to spend anything without permission, and she will always know where your money is ;-)
Nahh. Fuck nazis and their sympathizers.
Damn, this is Operation Cottage levels of disasterous operations
This far exceeds Operation Cottage actually in terms of losses.
Punchline: Yeah the British DID have loads of armed trawlers....
Task failed successfully
*Pure Monty Python !*
So where Mendeleev tank
Me testing if friendly fire is on:
That pilo0t deserved a Victoria Cros - sinking two ships with one -plane!
Must have been my headphones
When you said "overall", because the way you said it, it was very reminiscent of what the narrator of the channel "Audit the Audit" usually says during the conclusion. "Overall, Göring get's an F for allowing bad lines of communications between the Luftwaffe and the Kriegsmarine, motivated only by personal gains." xD
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Germany`s biggest failure of World War Two ? I would have said Stalingrad myself ,but there you go
Who enabled friendly fire 😀
Spoilt by the continuous pronunciation of the destroyer identities s as zeeeone etc.
A very good reason Germany would never be a sea power. Lack of coordination (rather competition) between Navy and Air Forces. They suffered the results of a bad theory. That competition was better than cooperation and that racism and fascism was better than democracy, and a free market, where people work together for a common goal.
Friendly fire is not friendly. (From the book Shooting Blanks).
@@GNMi79 : Agreed, although the US Govt worked with companies to cooperate with each other by designing factories and tanks and such that used similar parts, wheels, tires, gun calibers. Experts cooperated with each other across companies, there was openness to change and improvement. Same items often made by several manufacturers, and people put in long hours. Democracy and free enterprise in action. Typewriter companies making guns for instance.