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I love how this anthems melody is the same as the modern Germany. Shows a relation between the two states and allows people too more easily understand appreciate how the nations of the past have influenced the modern ones
Buddy! Get it together! It's Gott Erhalte, Deutschlandlied, Sei gesegnet ohne Ende , Afrikaners Landgenote, and more. It's happened to many of us, I not how it feels.
Several years ago, I was watching Sissi - Schicksalsjahre einer Kaiserin. Near the end, as they were playing this tune. I thought, wait a minute, why are they playing Das Deutschlandlied in a movie about the Austrian Empress. Thus began my bit of research. I never knew that the tune was originally the anthem of the Holy Roman and Austrian empires. Thank you for posting this.
Diese Version kann erst nach 1815 entstanden sein und ist somit die Volkshymne des Kaisertums Österreich. Denn im Lied wird die Beendigung der (napoleonischen) Knechtschaft besungen. Nur war Napoleon erst 1815 besiegt. Diese Variante ordne ich also rund um den Wiener Kongress 1814/1815 ein.
So much confusion, when a bit of research could do the trick. Its a personal anthem to the Habsburg Kaiser Franz. He was both Holy Roman Emperor as well as Austrian Emperor. Its not a "national" anthem of the HRE. This song originally had association with the House of Habsburg and therefore with Austria (in this case the Austrian empire is what I mean), because Austria was the hereditary land of the dynasty and the HRE was dissolved only 9 years after the song was written. It then become more and more also an anthem of the country Austrian Empire and later Austria-Hungary, as well as its people as national/imperial identity become more pronounced in the 19th century. Fallersleben wrote a new text to the melody when German nationalism was rising in the 1840s. This song melody became the German national anthem with Fallerslebens text in 1922 only, after the imperial age of both Austria and Germany was over. In short National anthem of Austrian empire: Yes National anthem of HRE: No Hymn of the house of Habsburg and the dynasty: Yes
Can't imagine how people felt back then, to see an empire that lasted for all those eras and centuries falling and its emperor dissolving it all of sudden
Was Germany once the head of the Holy Roman Empire? I saw the Siegerkranz song, with the music of "God Save the Queen... Please do enlighten me, I am loving her history as I listen to her songs!
@@nicks5636 That depends on the time period. The title of Emperor was not inherited. In the Middle Ages the Habsburgs and Austria weren't the rulers of the Empire.
here to say guten tag 4 minutes before this video is past it's 1 year birthday also edit 10 seconds before 1 year birthday is over damn this anthem lasted a while
@@worstplayerxd5012 Yet northern Italy was part of HRE. But I don't know, does the pope proclaiming HRE just to annoy Byzantine(Roman) Empire count as switching sides?
as the Roman Empire rises and falls they come back holy than any empire ever seen and existed as they hold Jesus in there arms they will forever be tue longer empire to live R.I.P. Holy Roman Empire
Note: This is actually the Austrian version of Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser. I do not blame you for using this one, but here is the one for the Holy Roman Empire: th-cam.com/video/Ad0bpjHjRvo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ChineseSovietRepublic The first song in this video is the one.
@@MalaysiaIsProChannel I wasn't expecting a reply to this under any circumstance, even thought "Why bother commenting, it's not like someone will even see this" since it was posted 4 years ago. Where are you from? I am from Brazil (Ooh wait, your country is mentioned in your profile name didn't realize that)
Holy Roman Empire is an First Reich long before German Empire. This is same anthem but in different words of passion to many kingdoms who used to be part it.
Last stronghold of feudalism in Europe, it was better than any nation state could ever be. It was the true definition of Empire as something glorious and worth preserving. 1st Reich >>> 2nd and especially 3rd.
Translation: God save Emperor Francis, Our good Emperor Francis! A high ruler, a wise sage, Stands he in fame's radiance, Love twists the laurel branches, Into an evergreen wreath for him! God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis! God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis! O'er flourishing realms, He extends his scepter far and wide, The pillars of his throne are gentleness, Rectitude and probity, And from his heraldic shield, The light of justice shines! God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis! God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis! To adorn himself with virtues, He heeds all worthy concerns, Never to repress his people, Flames the sword in his hands, To bless them and to delight them, Is the prize he desires! God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis! God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis! He shattered the fetters of bondage, Lifted us aloft to freedom, Soon may he see Austrian lands, And Austrian people in highest bloom, And may he hear at the edge Of a late tomb, his grandchildren's chorus: God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis! God save Francis, the Emperor! Our good Emperor Francis!
@@ninenine9933 The one thing I couldn't understand is why it had German originally, if by 1828, Francis II had been Emperor of Austria for over twenty years. German makes no sense, since Austria and Germany are two different countries with two different cultures and different people who just happen to share the same language and same continent. To call Germans and Austrians the same would be equivalent to calling Americans and Canadians the same, and taken from one who's visited Canada more times than they could count, that is ridiculous. Since Germans and Austrians are too different, treating them as the same is absurd, which is why the lyrics "Soon may he see German lands and German people," sound stupid. Therefore, I prefer to use the words: "Soon may he see AUSTRIAN lands and AUSTRIAN people. I know the lyrics are properly translated as "German," not "Austrian," but since Francis is an AUSTRIAN Emperor, not German, it makes far more sense to have "Austrian" used, because Germany and Austria are distinct countries, distinct cultures, and their inhabitants are distinct people. For good measure, I will also add that Austria does not speak the same German as Germany does.
@@mikeor- they wouldn't approve of the anschluss if it wasn't and they would not have died for Hitler and would not have killed our children and the elderly
Why? The German Confederation had no Emperor, only a President, who happened to be the Emperor of Austria, because Austria was the biggest and powerful state in the German Confederation, until the Prussians had enough of them.
@@BlackJack-097 No. This is the German Confederation of 1815-1866, not the Federal Republic of Germany we have today. And even today Germany has a president as head of state.
I also was this bewildered when I started studying German phonology, actually it's a long, narrow E closer to I than the open English vowel in "stem" but still distinct; same as French é as opposed to French è
why my comment got removed? so as i said beffor it isnt god save the empror francis its god save the emperor franz (yes it was a name of an emperor) and how you say france in german is frankreich
The successors to the Roman Empire were: The Russian Empire, the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire), and the HRE. The Ottomans never were the successor to the Romans
@Tigran Abazyan Roman origins on the Italian peninsula and its capital is Rome. Italy is less worthy of the title Rome, because their capital was in Turin before moving to Rome, and the only country that has always been in Rome is the Vatican. Roma Aeterna! SPQR.
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I love how this anthems melody is the same as the modern Germany. Shows a relation between the two states and allows people too more easily understand appreciate how the nations of the past have influenced the modern ones
Same as German reich Nazi germany Weimar germany Austrian empire Austrian Hungarian Empire lol
@@factorerivative yup... Literally everyone in the centeral Europe copied it lol
Too be fair, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
@@factorerivative Don't think Nazi Germany have a form of it, unless I missed one of them?
@@matthewang8934 Their oficcial anthem was still Deutschlandlied, but only the first stanza
Two Sicily = I have a beautiful coat of arms
Austria= hold my Imperial beer
it’s not fucking austrian it’s german
When your friends made an alliance together but had to break it up because of the French kid camping the borders:
time to do it again
Was Holy, Roman, and an Empire
You're a brave one to say this
Voltaire want to know your location!
Jesus:Holy?Seriously?
It was none of those 3. 🤷
@@adge5182 it was very holy and 100% an empire but it wasn’t Roman
Who ever had to draw that coat of arms was suffering immensely
Especially while drawing the Quaternion Eagle
Deutschland Deutschland Übe- Dang it wrong song again.
Buddy! Get it together! It's Gott Erhalte, Deutschlandlied, Sei gesegnet ohne Ende
, Afrikaners Landgenote, and more. It's happened to many of us, I not how it feels.
@@texxon3355 it's only a joke.
@@tinglebangledoggymcnaboo I would woosh you, but that has become overrated. I know.
@@texxon3355 you can woosh just dont add the r/ part unless on reddit.
@@bludwhatintheworld very well then, I will have that in mind next time.
I love this!
Me too ^^
I remember my great grampa listening to this bop
I think you mean Gott erhalte, Gott beschutze, or possibly, Das Deutschenlied.
Or erika
Whoever made this coat of arms needs a reward for fitting literally every single state and still managing to make it look good
Gott Erhalte Franz Den Kaiser
Unsern Guten Kaiser Franz
Damn a Coats of arms within a Coats of arms
Repeat it 400 time
@@ahmadbintang9697w
Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser, unsern Guten Kaiser Franz!🖤💛
Yes, Österreich ist Ja.
@@sanneoi6323 Deutschland ist der Nachfolgestaat, des heiligen römischen Reiches deutscher Nation. Die Ostmark ist nur n' Deutsche Provinz.
"früh erleb er deutscher Lande, deutscher Völker höchsten Flor" ...Österreich findet hier gar nicht statt
@@Fenrir_Lokisson Dad nennt sich Österreich
@@theaustrianmonarchy7040 ihr sprecht aber deutsch, nicht österreichisch.
God save the Kaiser! 👑✝️
Several years ago, I was watching Sissi - Schicksalsjahre einer Kaiserin. Near the end, as they were playing this tune. I thought, wait a minute, why are they playing Das Deutschlandlied in a movie about the Austrian Empress. Thus began my bit of research. I never knew that the tune was originally the anthem of the Holy Roman and Austrian empires. Thank you for posting this.
The HRE coat of arms could be sold as modern art.
Lol yeah, look how many duchies and kingdoms they own and their signature Habsburg emblem in the center
For a minute I thought I was hearing Deutschlandlied and that the uploader make a mistake.
Damn, didn't know you can copy your senior's work.
Thank you for getting me through depression, Holy Roman Empire.
Semoga badai cepat berlalu, kawan
Eyyyy, this is awesome, thanks for the upload =)
Amazing as always.
Beautiful rendition. Greetings from Russia 🇷🇺 (⬛🟨⬜) 🤝🇦🇹🇭🇺 🇨🇿🇸🇰🇩🇪 🇱🇮
ye we kinda sorry for not helping in the crimean war in 1853
Whoa, that coat of arms triggered my epilepsy.
I'm.not look too closely and am thankful for my Keprea.
FÜR KAISER FRANZ!
Diese Version kann erst nach 1815 entstanden sein und ist somit die Volkshymne des Kaisertums Österreich. Denn im Lied wird die Beendigung der (napoleonischen) Knechtschaft besungen. Nur war Napoleon erst 1815 besiegt. Diese Variante ordne ich also rund um den Wiener Kongress 1814/1815 ein.
Ähhhm nein
Masterpiece!💖
Habsburg Spain X Holy Roman Empire 🇪🇸🇩🇪 🇦🇹
When you realise that Charles III is the most senior heir to the HRE:
Gott erhalte Karl den Kaiser!
Damn,has he really been in 2 years already
It's not called the holy roman empire because it's holy, roman and an empire, but because everyone who looks at it on a map goes "HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE!"
So much confusion, when a bit of research could do the trick. Its a personal anthem to the Habsburg Kaiser Franz. He was both Holy Roman Emperor as well as Austrian Emperor. Its not a "national" anthem of the HRE. This song originally had association with the House of Habsburg and therefore with Austria (in this case the Austrian empire is what I mean), because Austria was the hereditary land of the dynasty and the HRE was dissolved only 9 years after the song was written. It then become more and more also an anthem of the country Austrian Empire and later Austria-Hungary, as well as its people as national/imperial identity become more pronounced in the 19th century. Fallersleben wrote a new text to the melody when German nationalism was rising in the 1840s. This song melody became the German national anthem with Fallerslebens text in 1922 only, after the imperial age of both Austria and Germany was over. In short
National anthem of Austrian empire: Yes
National anthem of HRE: No
Hymn of the house of Habsburg and the dynasty: Yes
that’s sick
Can't imagine how people felt back then, to see an empire that lasted for all those eras and centuries falling and its emperor dissolving it all of sudden
VIVA CRISTO REY
KAIZER > REY...😂😂
Kannte ich bisher noch nicht. Danke.
Was Germany once the head of the Holy Roman Empire?
I saw the Siegerkranz song, with the music of "God Save the Queen... Please do enlighten me, I am loving her history as I listen to her songs!
The Holy Roman Empire was ruled by Austria, (Austria was the main german state, defender of the others), but the HRE was destroyed in 1806.
And the Real creator of HRE is Germany
@@nicks5636 That depends on the time period. The title of Emperor was not inherited. In the Middle Ages the Habsburgs and Austria weren't the rulers of the Empire.
The Holy Roman Empire WAS Germany...
Me too
Those were the days
Sounds more like German than any other language.
I wonder why.
Ehmm, because it IS? 😂
DAMN IT
i thought it was in polish
@@sweatyfreddy7151How do you come up with that. Holy Roman empire of German nation is another name of the hre
here to say guten tag 4 minutes before this video is past it's 1 year birthday
also edit 10 seconds before 1 year birthday is over damn this anthem lasted a while
This was also the anthem for austrian empire and austria-hungary
Austro-Hungarian was Gott erhalte, Gott beschütze
Love how they always put hungary in some way or another into the crest despite never being a part of the empire.
Habsburg coat of arms...
Love this! 🇮🇹🇩🇪❤
😳
Italy is weak
Akward when you relize italy has switched sides in Both world wars 😳
@@worstplayerxd5012 Yet northern Italy was part of HRE. But I don't know, does the pope proclaiming HRE just to annoy Byzantine(Roman) Empire count as switching sides?
As an austrian this is a great song and we should replace our anthem with this we used this during the habsburgs period I want it back
as a german, this is German not austrian 😡
My profile pic becomes the water for a day and the HRE instrumental anthem (1797-1806) plays in the background
👇
very epic
Wait how did I comment on this video
I don’t even know how I got here. I have been feeling really sick and I can’t properly think sometimes
as the Roman Empire rises and falls they come back holy than any empire ever seen and existed as they hold Jesus in there arms they will forever be tue longer empire to live R.I.P. Holy Roman Empire
Note: This is actually the Austrian version of Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser. I do not blame you for using this one, but here is the one for the Holy Roman Empire:
th-cam.com/video/Ad0bpjHjRvo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ChineseSovietRepublic
The first song in this video is the one.
I see y’all hating on the HRE coat of arms but as a Marylander, that coat of arms is based. Reminds me of our state flag.
I always listen this
I also!
So do I. Sounds so beautiful!
@@italodoesstuff2720 I forget i even comment this, back when my English sucks, when i was 14 yo in country fandom lmao
@@MalaysiaIsProChannel I wasn't expecting a reply to this under any circumstance, even thought "Why bother commenting, it's not like someone will even see this" since it was posted 4 years ago. Where are you from? I am from Brazil (Ooh wait, your country is mentioned in your profile name didn't realize that)
@@italodoesstuff2720 My exact thought anytime i see a comment from 10+ years, and suprise suprise they even answer lmao
2:54
Holy Roman Empire is an First Reich long before German Empire. This is same anthem but in different words of passion to many kingdoms who used to be part it.
Last stronghold of feudalism in Europe, it was better than any nation state could ever be. It was the true definition of Empire as something glorious and worth preserving.
1st Reich >>> 2nd and especially 3rd.
I love how this is just the anthem of Austria-hungary and this is not the real version, i just love it
Great!
Nice to hear them emphasizing "Deutschen Folk" in the anthem of the Roman (!) Empire.
Translation:
God save Emperor Francis,
Our good Emperor Francis!
A high ruler, a wise sage,
Stands he in fame's radiance,
Love twists the laurel branches,
Into an evergreen wreath for him!
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
O'er flourishing realms,
He extends his scepter far and wide,
The pillars of his throne are gentleness,
Rectitude and probity,
And from his heraldic shield,
The light of justice shines!
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
To adorn himself with virtues,
He heeds all worthy concerns,
Never to repress his people,
Flames the sword in his hands,
To bless them and to delight them,
Is the prize he desires!
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
He shattered the fetters of bondage,
Lifted us aloft to freedom,
Soon may he see Austrian lands,
And Austrian people in highest bloom,
And may he hear at the edge
Of a late tomb, his grandchildren's chorus:
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
God save Francis, the Emperor!
Our good Emperor Francis!
German,no austrian
@@ninenine9933 The one thing I couldn't understand is why it had German originally, if by 1828, Francis II had been Emperor of Austria for over twenty years. German makes no sense, since Austria and Germany are two different countries with two different cultures and different people who just happen to share the same language and same continent. To call Germans and Austrians the same would be equivalent to calling Americans and Canadians the same, and taken from one who's visited Canada more times than they could count, that is ridiculous. Since Germans and Austrians are too different, treating them as the same is absurd, which is why the lyrics "Soon may he see German lands and German people," sound stupid. Therefore, I prefer to use the words: "Soon may he see AUSTRIAN lands and AUSTRIAN people. I know the lyrics are properly translated as "German," not "Austrian," but since Francis is an AUSTRIAN Emperor, not German, it makes far more sense to have "Austrian" used, because Germany and Austria are distinct countries, distinct cultures, and their inhabitants are distinct people. For good measure, I will also add that Austria does not speak the same German as Germany does.
@@mikeor- No, austrians in 1800s identify themselves as a germans
@@mikeor- they wouldn't approve of the anschluss if it wasn't and they would not have died for Hitler and would not have killed our children and the elderly
@@mikeor- it is a pity that Arnold Schwarzenegger's father was not executed
game: which coat of arms is which
The Melody reminds me of a song in the Hymn Book.
Byzantium: holy ✅ Roman ✅ imperial ✅
HRE: holy ❌ Roman ❌ imperial ❌
Glory to the holy roman empire 😊
Age of Empires II, Barbarossa Campaign, someone?
Is this the tune of National Anthem of Germany?
Ja
I like it how everything is just about Kaiser Franz.
that’s a kickass coat of arms
Confédétaion du Rhin 🤧
ağla
when you name your empire after another empire but holy but you dont get as much land as it did
WE PRESERVING FRANZ THE KAISER WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Hi, I'm from Mexico and I don't understand English well, but does anyone have the link to the instrumental version without voice? only instruments
Just look it up dude
technically this version was the anthem of German Confederation .
Why? The German Confederation had no Emperor, only a President, who happened to be the Emperor of Austria, because Austria was the biggest and powerful state in the German Confederation, until the Prussians had enough of them.
German Confederation has a Chancellor not a President
@@BlackJack-097 No. This is the German Confederation of 1815-1866, not the Federal Republic of Germany we have today. And even today Germany has a president as head of state.
I mean the North German Confederation and sorry 😅😅
why the intro and outro are so long? IT'S A MUSIC VIDEO. it doesn't even need an intro or outro
Hmmm sounds an awful lot like the Austria Hungry anthem
Austria-Hungary is Gott erhalte, Gott beschütze
Baltasar Gutiérrez they are ALMOST the same except 2 lines
same anthem, same Habsburg Monarchy, different lyrical version and institutional reincarnations
Tally McClain not really: “innig bleibt mit Habsburgs Throne” isn’t there
Calmirdonnvs Rex i think they only share the tune but that’s about it
Sounds like an old hymn. Sounds like home.
0:12 2:54
It isn't god save the french emperor it's god save the caesar Franz
By the way france in german is frankreich (frankish)
Longest used national anthem ever to my knowledge
Edit: Someone missed the joke in the comments
Tally McClain the Roman Empire never had an official anthem
Uncle Sam. I would say r/woooosh but I don’t want to be on r/ihavereddit
@@unclesam5230
It was the national anthem of Austrian empire (1804-1867)
That’s the best version of this anthem (but why singer pronunciate “E” like “I”???!!).
Iliá Nagáitsev I believe it has something to do with the Austrian dialect of German differing from standard German.
I also was this bewildered when I started studying German phonology, actually it's a long, narrow E closer to I than the open English vowel in "stem" but still distinct; same as French é as opposed to French è
@@zoomer_zveno, oh, that’s IPA’s [e] and [ɛ].
@@chataignevendemiaire Indeed! Then why did you take it for an [i]?
@@zoomer_zveno, because it is like [i].
Two headed Eagle logo was Adopted from Hinduism (Lord Vishnu) Gandaberunda Narasimha , one of the Fierce form of Lord Vishnu
Thank you for information
why is there a warning for Gott Erhalte Franz dem Kaiser?
Banger
Also anthem of austria-Hungary
Who sings this version?
Austria Empire Anthem
Well yes but actually no...
Hello DeroVolkTV, can i have credits to my video? if not, i will delete it. Thank you
Funny how even in 1797 they made a song worshipping Franz Beckenbauer
The Virgin Third Reich vs the Chad Holy Roman Empire
Thank you I listened to this 2 years ago and now I got the anthem right In an exam
Do the National Anthem of Roman Empire next. #SPQRforever
Koala1203 the Roman Empire never had an official anthem.
The Roman Empire existed before nations were conceived.
The closest we came to a Roman national anthem, was a Byzantine hymn sung during won wars, and great relief
The name is "The General Defender"
The best thing that happened to Europe (secularly speaking) was the Roman Empire dying and never coming back.
@@unclesam5230 western rome
This anthem sound like modern German national anthem
because it is LOL its just different lyrics
I didn't know that the German anthem came from so far in the past
... We have reached are destiny
This is a certified G Pop classic.
why my comment got removed?
so as i said beffor it isnt god save the empror francis its god save the emperor franz (yes it was a name of an emperor) and how you say france in german is frankreich
Which German dialect was the Lingua Franca during the end of the Holy Roman Empire? And which dialect is this anthem in?
It was also the Austrian Empire's anthem
Was the Holy Roman Empire part of the Habsburg monarchy?
@Tigran Abazyan Oo ok, thanks for the info, btw what are the small countries in the HRE?, what are the political units?
didnt the Holy Roman Empire last for about 600 years, all the way from the middle ages?
Yes, same as Hawaii, Maya, savavid and ottoman
Actually, it lasted 1000 years
I wonder what would happen if nato became a contry and the coat of arms is each state in each contry in nato contry
My friends we lost him
That's a chrest of lands under Habsburg rule, not of HRE. Most of these lands were never part of HRE and almost none of HRE was under Habsburg rule
In theory, all of the HRE was under Habsburg rule.
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Hermoso
The Holy Roman Empire was holy Roman and an empire
There was Only 3 imperium. Roman, Byzantium and Ottoman. All the others was just a kingom or sultanates.
The successors to the Roman Empire were: The Russian Empire, the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire), and the HRE.
The Ottomans never were the successor to the Romans
@@jacob414 even the russians weren't tho
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@Tigran Abazyan Roman origins on the Italian peninsula and its capital is Rome. Italy is less worthy of the title Rome, because their capital was in Turin before moving to Rome, and the only country that has always been in Rome is the Vatican. Roma Aeterna! SPQR.
@Tigran Abazyan If Italy wants Roman titles it has to be on good terms with Pope
I love holy roman empire