I heard this 3.0 diesel engine was meant to be a Cadillac engine to be used in Europe primarily, but GM scrapped the idea. So FCA repurposed the engine to work for SUVs and the RAM 1500 (it wasn't designed as a truck engine initially). As of now, only the Wrangler and Gladiator use this engine. It has been discontinued in the RAM 1500 and the Grand Cherokee.
TH-cam suggested this video. I owned a 2014 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel. I would drive it over mountain passes in Colorado and average about 30 MPG. It was a fantastic vehicle. When the Fed the lawsuit happened we had a choice to take a payment from FCA and get a software update. We took the money (it was over 3K) and the update ruined the vehicle. It had a lag of about 2 - 4 seconds once you pressed the gas petal. It became dangerous to me so we sold it.
I´ve heard that from many people, but I also heard that the second generation of the EcoDiesel doesn´t have that problem... So if I get one it definetely will be the newer one
We noticed that when we bought one in 2021 and just decided to delete and tune it. It woke it up and added 60hp and almost 100mph of torque. Definitely fixed all of those issues.
@@TheOhsemix I wanted to do that, but ended up selling it instead. Hindsight is 20/20 and I don’t regret selling, but I kind of wish I still had it and went the route you did.
In the 70s GM came out with the 5.7 Oldsmobile Diesel. Instead of having Detroit Diesel develop it properly, GM figured they could take the 350 block and convert it for diesel use and it failed since the tolerances of gas vs diesel are different and it was a huge failure. Now days folks seem more open to it but the price of buying a diesel, the cost of def, strangulating emissions equipment, and the price of diesel sour folks on it. 07 was the last good year for diesels in the US.
We had one at the shop when I was a lube tech. It sounds so mean at idle. Thats how I knew about the diesel engine option. It also comes in some of the newer Jeeps, and the Dodge Ram 1500s. It's the only modern Chrysler product I'd be willing to own but in the Dodge Ram 1500 form.
Just an FYI, the Colorado sold for some Asian and latin american markets is actually based on a Isuzu D-MAX and their “Duramax” engine is actually the same Isuzu one.
I used to work in oil and gas, and we used the Duramax Colorado so that the company vehicles could refill at the office/truck pad. It was really fuel efficient, especially back then when it was cheap.
My two cents on why we dislike diesel cars. (Grew up in the Brown 80s) Diesels were slow, noisy, smokers (pre-exhaust fluid requirement) GM took a gasoline 350 small block (5.7) and made it into the worst diesel engine ever. They put it in Cadillac's, Oldsmobile's, Pontiacs, Buicks, Chevys and so on.(1978-85) They were nightmares and lawsuits galore. I do remember one car in the 80s that people drove, ran forever, sure it was noisy and smoked but it also had 300k without a rebuild. That was the Mercedes Diesel line including the Wagon. But that was the only exception to the diesel fears in America.
Typical Jeep and Chrysler products, something breaks in your hands, I like your response. Diesels are like drinking warm beer, very European, some here in the US may like it, but the majority will not. Great video
It makes me feel lucky to live in Europe where diesels are very common and wagons outnumber SUVs 10 to 1. Even then, a lot of SUVs I've seen over the years are, you guessed it, diesel powered for better gas mileage.
Here in north america driving a diesel is kind of a flex and has some cool factor. Most expensive version of pickups are diesel pickups. Diesel bmws are super super rare
Jeep used that same interior until 2022 and it could still hold its own against its competitors. The WK2 is one of the best modern Jeeps. Dieselgate killed light duty diesels with guilt by association and fuel prices didn't help. This lasted longer because it's a premium vehicle with good tow ratings and is comfortable on road trips. The Gladiator EcoDiesel is the engine to have. More torque for doing truck stuff and off-road stuff and more fuel economy loaded up.
Idk if Americans hate diesel per se, but It's always been at least a dollar more per gallon since forever. So unless you have something like a big truck and the income or job to support it, it's prohibitively expensive. That, and we can't take advantage of Europe's diesel fuel Efficient vehicles because our emissions restrictions are a lot heavier than theirs. Because 50 mpg on a car that is not a hybrid is stellar.
I don't hate diesels alot of us don't its just in typical gm fashion they cheaped out and made a bad image for the diesel. As why people don't put them today because there just as bad as the old ones made by gm but with all the complexity
Why I don’t like modern diesels: (according to friends who are mechanics) when modern diesels have problems with their particulate filtration systems (which I they inevitably will) it’s expensive to fix. Maybe someone who has experience can set me straight, but I have heard too many horror stories of spending a great percentage of the value of the vehicle just to get it operational.
The emissions on diesels are horrible and expensive, but it's easily solved by ether removing the DPF, Cat, EGR delete and UREA Injection. If you're in a state/county that requires inspections; just gut the cat and DPF and hope the EPA doesn't try to make an example out of you. I live in Kansas, every diesel has that EPA crap removed here.
This is so very unusual for a Diesel Grand Cherokee, but I much rather have a Volkswagen Touareg TDI over this becuz it looks bolder, and relatively more luxurious, it's more comfortable and it's better built. And it also driv s and handles better too. My friends neighbor actually had a 2015 GC Summit Diesel, but then he got more kids. So he now has a GMC Yukon Denali XL Duramax for more room and practicality.
7:12 It's not a 4WD Lock setting. It's the transfer case lowrange gear selector button. 4WD Lock implies that it doesn't have a low range gear. I say that because there are Jeeps with a 4WD Lock button. The Compass and Renegade have a 4WD Lock button, but don't have a lowrange gear in the transfer case. It's equivalent in purpose but not function of Subaru X-Mode. The 2022MY Compass Trailhawk and Renegade Trailhawk have a "4WD LOW" button, which is just a very short 1st gear that splits power 50/50 between front and rear axles. While for the 2022MY the Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Gladiator, and even Cherokee Trailhawk have a real lowrange gear in the transfer case. My JL Rubicon in Part-Time 4WD Hi-Range has the same crawl ratio as a Compass Trailhawk in its "4WD Low" setting.
It's not like Europe immediately started driving diesels as soon as they got good - it took a few years for them to become the widely popular engine they are today. After Fiat revolutionized the tech with a new kind of common rail system in the 90s, companies bombarded everyone with commercial after commercial featuring diesel versions of almost every car available on the market, to the point that "Turbo diesel common rail" is permanently etched into our brains.
They’re garbage stock. The recall gave it a 4 second throttle lag and now the EGR sits open all the time. Eventually the oil pickup will plug from soot due to EGR and the main bearing will fry. Delete the SCR and DEP, get 600ft-lb of torque, 30+ MPG and get instant throttle again.
@@jaywagner13 Removing the ERG cooler is the hardest to do, just becuase you really cannot see the bolts to get to them. Also the EGR hose that goes from the cooler to the turbo manifold will break. You need to cap the EGR port on the turbo manifold. They're T4 bolts and will snap if you try to remove them. You have to pull the engine on the WK2 if those bolts snap.
They weigh 5,500lbs and they're one of the more old-school SUVs. Plus that's probably alot of city stop&go driving pulling the fuel efficiency down. In my experience fuel economy estimates are exactly that, estimates.
I get over 30.2 mpg on long trips and 25.6 in the city. It is not a 4x4 . I live in Florida and caould not justify a 4x4. Currently have 140,00 miles mostly highway miles form Florida to Pa. Love the car
With DPF and DEF they are unreliable just like the GM 5.7l diesel. That is why they don't sell, trucks on the other hand need the diesels for towing. Car diesels just don't make sense with the extra initial costs and the extra cost of diesel.
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I love the idle sound, gives the impression of a serious vehicle, something that is ready for business.
I heard this 3.0 diesel engine was meant to be a Cadillac engine to be used in Europe primarily, but GM scrapped the idea. So FCA repurposed the engine to work for SUVs and the RAM 1500 (it wasn't designed as a truck engine initially). As of now, only the Wrangler and Gladiator use this engine. It has been discontinued in the RAM 1500 and the Grand Cherokee.
TH-cam suggested this video. I owned a 2014 Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel. I would drive it over mountain passes in Colorado and average about 30 MPG. It was a fantastic vehicle. When the Fed the lawsuit happened we had a choice to take a payment from FCA and get a software update. We took the money (it was over 3K) and the update ruined the vehicle. It had a lag of about 2 - 4 seconds once you pressed the gas petal. It became dangerous to me so we sold it.
I´ve heard that from many people, but I also heard that the second generation of the EcoDiesel doesn´t have that problem... So if I get one it definetely will be the newer one
We noticed that when we bought one in 2021 and just decided to delete and tune it. It woke it up and added 60hp and almost 100mph of torque. Definitely fixed all of those issues.
@@TheOhsemix I wanted to do that, but ended up selling it instead. Hindsight is 20/20 and I don’t regret selling, but I kind of wish I still had it and went the route you did.
I did the same thing, best rig evah...@@TheOhsemix
In the 70s GM came out with the 5.7 Oldsmobile Diesel. Instead of having Detroit Diesel develop it properly, GM figured they could take the 350 block and convert it for diesel use and it failed since the tolerances of gas vs diesel are different and it was a huge failure. Now days folks seem more open to it but the price of buying a diesel, the cost of def, strangulating emissions equipment, and the price of diesel sour folks on it. 07 was the last good year for diesels in the US.
We had one at the shop when I was a lube tech. It sounds so mean at idle. Thats how I knew about the diesel engine option. It also comes in some of the newer Jeeps, and the Dodge Ram 1500s. It's the only modern Chrysler product I'd be willing to own but in the Dodge Ram 1500 form.
Yall get them a lot? I want a “16 but want a lil peace of mind lol
This could be the opportunity to make a yellow "Kinda" for the BFB Test when it kinda fits but not completely.
I love my EcoDiesel, I'm getting 32MPG on my long drive and 22-26 in the city with just 86000on the odometer.
Just an FYI, the Colorado sold for some Asian and latin american markets is actually based on a Isuzu D-MAX and their “Duramax” engine is actually the same Isuzu one.
I used to work in oil and gas, and we used the Duramax Colorado so that the company vehicles could refill at the office/truck pad. It was really fuel efficient, especially back then when it was cheap.
I got one of these this week. It’s hard to say if it’s better than the standard grand Cherokees, but holy hell is it fun
I like those engines they have a lot of torque
idk why i like these videos so much and i cant stop watching this addorable man tell me intresting things
My two cents on why we dislike diesel cars. (Grew up in the Brown 80s) Diesels were slow, noisy, smokers (pre-exhaust fluid requirement) GM took a gasoline 350 small block (5.7) and made it into the worst diesel engine ever. They put it in Cadillac's, Oldsmobile's, Pontiacs, Buicks, Chevys and so on.(1978-85) They were nightmares and lawsuits galore. I do remember one car in the 80s that people drove, ran forever, sure it was noisy and smoked but it also had 300k without a rebuild. That was the Mercedes Diesel line including the Wagon. But that was the only exception to the diesel fears in America.
8:52 God Damn! was every vacuum cleaner in 100 mile range broken>?
very cool did not know they made a diesel in these
Typical Jeep and Chrysler products, something breaks in your hands, I like your response. Diesels are like drinking warm beer, very European, some here in the US may like it, but the majority will not. Great video
It makes me feel lucky to live in Europe where diesels are very common and wagons outnumber SUVs 10 to 1. Even then, a lot of SUVs I've seen over the years are, you guessed it, diesel powered for better gas mileage.
Here in north america driving a diesel is kind of a flex and has some cool factor. Most expensive version of pickups are diesel pickups. Diesel bmws are super super rare
0:24 - Once again, thank you for pronouncing diesel correctly, Zack!
26 MPG is pretty awesome. You just didn't push the BFB down into the cup holders hard enough. Hahaa!!
Imagine having a bigger turbo and injectors in it
I have a 2021 Jeep Compass 2L Diesel (Fiat MultiJet 2) in India, Its an amazing vehicle. I love diesel Jeeps.
Great Vid. We love them in Australia for towing and fuel economy and off road capability. Don’t like the short life coolant hoses.
Jeep used that same interior until 2022 and it could still hold its own against its competitors. The WK2 is one of the best modern Jeeps. Dieselgate killed light duty diesels with guilt by association and fuel prices didn't help. This lasted longer because it's a premium vehicle with good tow ratings and is comfortable on road trips.
The Gladiator EcoDiesel is the engine to have. More torque for doing truck stuff and off-road stuff and more fuel economy loaded up.
Idk if Americans hate diesel per se, but It's always been at least a dollar more per gallon since forever. So unless you have something like a big truck and the income or job to support it, it's prohibitively expensive. That, and we can't take advantage of Europe's diesel fuel Efficient vehicles because our emissions restrictions are a lot heavier than theirs. Because 50 mpg on a car that is not a hybrid is stellar.
I don't hate diesels alot of us don't its just in typical gm fashion they cheaped out and made a bad image for the diesel. As why people don't put them today because there just as bad as the old ones made by gm but with all the complexity
Why I don’t like modern diesels: (according to friends who are mechanics) when modern diesels have problems with their particulate filtration systems (which I they inevitably will) it’s expensive to fix. Maybe someone who has experience can set me straight, but I have heard too many horror stories of spending a great percentage of the value of the vehicle just to get it operational.
The emissions on diesels are horrible and expensive, but it's easily solved by ether removing the DPF, Cat, EGR delete and UREA Injection. If you're in a state/county that requires inspections; just gut the cat and DPF and hope the EPA doesn't try to make an example out of you. I live in Kansas, every diesel has that EPA crap removed here.
@@OhPhuckYou Exactly right. Diesel’s work great as soon as the government isn’t involved
Good review, thanks
This is so very unusual for a Diesel Grand Cherokee, but I much rather have a Volkswagen Touareg TDI over this becuz it looks bolder, and relatively more luxurious, it's more comfortable and it's better built. And it also driv s and handles better too. My friends neighbor actually had a 2015 GC Summit Diesel, but then he got more kids. So he now has a GMC Yukon Denali XL Duramax for more room and practicality.
Your friends neighbor 🧢
@@smotpoker15 ohh c'mon he's a big fan of Spiderman
I have the 2015, but I wonder if we can switch to two wheel drive. I could not find any such info in the manual
They couldn't have cleaned it for you, huh?
So is this engine good or bad?
On the rams is trash
I do like the WK2
I've got a 2014 Grand Cherokee Overland Diesel. It just runs. Period.
7:12
It's not a 4WD Lock setting. It's the transfer case lowrange gear selector button.
4WD Lock implies that it doesn't have a low range gear. I say that because there are Jeeps with a 4WD Lock button. The Compass and Renegade have a 4WD Lock button, but don't have a lowrange gear in the transfer case. It's equivalent in purpose but not function of Subaru X-Mode.
The 2022MY Compass Trailhawk and Renegade Trailhawk have a "4WD LOW" button, which is just a very short 1st gear that splits power 50/50 between front and rear axles.
While for the 2022MY the Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Gladiator, and even Cherokee Trailhawk have a real lowrange gear in the transfer case.
My JL Rubicon in Part-Time 4WD Hi-Range has the same crawl ratio as a Compass Trailhawk in its "4WD Low" setting.
It's not like Europe immediately started driving diesels as soon as they got good - it took a few years for them to become the widely popular engine they are today. After Fiat revolutionized the tech with a new kind of common rail system in the 90s, companies bombarded everyone with commercial after commercial featuring diesel versions of almost every car available on the market, to the point that "Turbo diesel common rail" is permanently etched into our brains.
They’re garbage stock. The recall gave it a 4 second throttle lag and now the EGR sits open all the time. Eventually the oil pickup will plug from soot due to EGR and the main bearing will fry.
Delete the SCR and DEP, get 600ft-lb of torque, 30+ MPG and get instant throttle again.
Is this difficult to do? I might buy one of these used to tow my smaller boat.
@@jaywagner13 Removing the ERG cooler is the hardest to do, just becuase you really cannot see the bolts to get to them. Also the EGR hose that goes from the cooler to the turbo manifold will break. You need to cap the EGR port on the turbo manifold. They're T4 bolts and will snap if you try to remove them. You have to pull the engine on the WK2 if those bolts snap.
Are this reliable?
Love diesel manual transmission is ram best fuel
Fix It Again Tony!
25.8 average thats it?
They weigh 5,500lbs and they're one of the more old-school SUVs. Plus that's probably alot of city stop&go driving pulling the fuel efficiency down. In my experience fuel economy estimates are exactly that, estimates.
Would it be smart to buy a 2014 with the diesel with 200,000 miles!?
I am considering the same thing! did you end up buying it?
Wouldn't have hurt the owner to give it real quick clean...
Not even Europeans love the diesel Mazdas so I can understand that.
this engine shits itself, rod bearing and timing sprocket failures, just read the Ram forums. If you are in US and have a choice pick the gas instead
Diesel is expensiver than gas right now where I am
I get over 30.2 mpg on long trips and 25.6 in the city. It is not a 4x4 . I live in Florida and caould not justify a 4x4. Currently have 140,00 miles mostly highway miles form Florida to Pa. Love the car
With DPF and DEF they are unreliable just like the GM 5.7l diesel. That is why they don't sell, trucks on the other hand need the diesels for towing. Car diesels just don't make sense with the extra initial costs and the extra cost of diesel.
A vacuum and some microfiber would prob help, just sayin'.
I hear ecodiesil is bad engine
It is still a FIAT!!!!!!!
Fix It Again Tony...
Bring back the real 4.0 inline 6 a real engine.
Plastic fantastic car's
Lol. AMERICANS 🤣 funny
EcoDiesel? 2014 to 2016?! More like Ecoknockknockboom.
Take se advise, stay away.
First :)
I'm so glad Zack pronounced diesel correctly, except for at 4:26.
Chrysler doesn’t have a v8 Diesel engine in their line up. The only other option is the 6.7 Cummins I6 diesel