"Very much appreciated structure and, very different from some of my experience in instruments" " See that the wonderful incredible look of classical instruments, and Clarinet, "All In Wonderful Brass" "Very Nice"
Does anyone know the actual name of the 1:43 organ instrument? I've been looking for it and the only thing I've found is that it's a continuo organ or chamber organ
Only double bass and viola have survived from the viol family to our days. Cello and violin have already run very far from this family. They became the embodiment of the romantic era, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Paganini. And the viola and violone were the embodiment of the baroque, and the viola and double bass remain so even now, although they are also used for the performance of modern musical works, and they entered the modern symphony orchestra...
To my knowledge, the viola is not part of the viol family. It existed at the same time as the violin when they were first made in the mid 16th century.
Great informative video! One question here: So as Mr. Franenberg also mentioned, unlike double bass, violone is a fretted instrument. Then why his double bass also has frets on the neck? Is this because his instrument is probably a historical one? Asides from the frets, I can see some other differences between his double bass and the modern instrument.
indeed, baroque basses used to have gut strings and gut frets, also the bow is very different, the tip is lighter and it´s curved out so you have a softer, quieter sound in the middle and way less attack compared to modern bows
Wonderful video but also revealing about the current state of HIP. "Dont be expressive, just give the harmonic function" is a really weird take because the harmony is fundamentally a mode of expressing the affekt. Players of dynamic, sustaining instruments dont need to pretend theyre a harpsichord
So many questions. So many strings, how can you find the right string with the bow without hitting the others? The finger board is curved, are the frets raised or just visual? If raised, how do you keep them from buzzing?
The orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment have a great video on the viola da gamba on their channel that might answer some of your question. The gambist there talks about the use of frets and the number of strings.
The strings are high enough off the fingerboard that buzzing against the frets is rarely an issue. Also, the bridge is curved more than the fingerboard.
The smaller instrument is the 8-foot violone and the bigger one is the 16-foot violone. The 16-foot violone goes lower and deeper. The 8-foot one functions like a cello with a somewhat bigger range. The tuning of the violone strings are adaptable and depend on the general pitch, which is mostly A=415 Hz (or A=465 in early Bach works).
The violone is the big bass of the viol family. To sizes the great bass (seen here) tuned (low to high) G C F A D G and and even bigger one, the contrabass tuned (low to high) D G C E A D.
Whenever I'm upset, this channel is able to make me feel better. It is my "safe space".
Very good hearing from the bass players!
So interesting to see behind the scenes, i wish there was more of this kind of material
Cátedra magistral: cumplir la función armónica, evitar el protagonismo.
Wonderful description of an approach.
"Very much appreciated structure and, very different from some of my experience in instruments" " See that the wonderful incredible look of classical instruments, and Clarinet, "All In Wonderful Brass" "Very Nice"
Most interesting.
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🥲"It's not a concerto for violone, it's just a secco recitative."
Does anyone know the actual name of the 1:43 organ instrument? I've been looking for it and the only thing I've found is that it's a continuo organ or chamber organ
That's correct: it's called a continuo organ or positive organ. You can find more information here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_organ
Only double bass and viola have survived from the viol family to our days. Cello and violin have already run very far from this family. They became the embodiment of the romantic era, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Paganini. And the viola and violone were the embodiment of the baroque, and the viola and double bass remain so even now, although they are also used for the performance of modern musical works, and they entered the modern symphony orchestra...
To my knowledge, the viola is not part of the viol family. It existed at the same time as the violin when they were first made in the mid 16th century.
Great informative video! One question here: So as Mr. Franenberg also mentioned, unlike double bass, violone is a fretted instrument. Then why his double bass also has frets on the neck? Is this because his instrument is probably a historical one? Asides from the frets, I can see some other differences between his double bass and the modern instrument.
indeed, baroque basses used to have gut strings and gut frets, also the bow is very different, the tip is lighter and it´s curved out so you have a softer, quieter sound in the middle and way less attack compared to modern bows
I bet the violone must have a "violone" price tag! 🤣 It's definitely got an impressive appearance and a softer sound.
Wonderful video but also revealing about the current state of HIP. "Dont be expressive, just give the harmonic function" is a really weird take because the harmony is fundamentally a mode of expressing the affekt. Players of dynamic, sustaining instruments dont need to pretend theyre a harpsichord
So many questions. So many strings, how can you find the right string with the bow without hitting the others? The finger board is curved, are the frets raised or just visual? If raised, how do you keep them from buzzing?
The orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment have a great video on the viola da gamba on their channel that might answer some of your question. The gambist there talks about the use of frets and the number of strings.
The strings are high enough off the fingerboard that buzzing against the frets is rarely an issue. Also, the bridge is curved more than the fingerboard.
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How are these two instruments different? How are the strings tuned? thanks.
The smaller instrument is the 8-foot violone and the bigger one is the 16-foot violone. The 16-foot violone goes lower and deeper. The 8-foot one functions like a cello with a somewhat bigger range. The tuning of the violone strings are adaptable and depend on the general pitch, which is mostly A=415 Hz (or A=465 in early Bach works).
The violone is the big bass of the viol family. To sizes the great bass (seen here) tuned (low to high) G C F A D G and and even bigger one, the contrabass tuned (low to high) D G C E A D.
@@wetzles Thanks.
Those instruments look too much like cellos for my liking. I prefer my violones to look more like the viols they descended from.
Maybe the cello colors the bass. Huh?
I like that one! Kind regards from a bass player.
thanks
would also help the double bass players not to drag in some places