Jack Dempsey vs Georges Carpentier
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- Jack Dempsey vs Georges Carpentier. Jul. 2, 1921. Boyle's Thirty Acres, Jersey City, New Jersey, United States.
Джек Дэмпси против Жоржа Карпантье, 2 июля 1921 г., все раунды, победа Дэмпси в 4-ом раунде (KO). - กีฬา
Dempsey helping Carpentier up as soon as the fight was stopped.
He was a real class act. Real respectful of anyone who would dare get in the ring with him.
That's the least he could do, because he was heavier than carpentier
Yessir. Dempsey was al class after kicking that ass.
@@ewanduguesclin9849
Be quiet.
Dempsey may not be the greatest boxer of all time, but I'm willing to argue he's one of if not the toughest. Those shots he took by Carpentier without going down was insane
He was heavier
Dempsey was a sensational boxer. Great pressure fighter with a left hand that could rock a truck. He was also a great defensive fighter as well
Dempsey was a sensational boxer. Great pressure fighter with a left hand that could rock a truck. He was also a great defensive fighter as well
@@becool5706 i didn't disagree with that
@@ewanduguesclin9849 I was in disagreement with the other guy.... he was a great boxer. Not just a vicious slugger. Even tho that was his image he also had great ring IQ.
The stamina of these fighters is unmatched.
Ali ran 10 miles a day in a full body rubber suit when training for Foreman. I don’t think these guys had anything on him for stamina.
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FkAli
@@danc3693 where did you hear that? And 10 miles was the average for fighters of Dempsey’s time.
100 years ago and still my fav fight
100 years ago and Dempsey v. Firpo was my fave Dempsey fight, next to the famous long count v. Tunney
Dempsey had some great fights
indeed, My grandson was lucky enough to be there!
Dempsey is one of my favorite old time fighters to watch or read about. Times were very different back then. I just loved Dempsey's style and look. The tassels on the shorts, the haircut and aggressive, pressure style. Dempsey will forever be a legend. Mike Tyson admits Dempsey was his idol.
lucky luciano, meyer lansky, arnold rothstein and al capone were all sitting in the crowd on this fight
xsammyx101x yeah, I was there. It was crowded.
Boardwalk Empire!!!
Dempsey wins the belt in 1919, the same year Arnold Rothstein fixes the World Series.
Not saying this fight was fixed by no means at all. This fight was legit....
It’s just funny that in this same year, someone could pull off the imaginable. Well since they were caught I guess “pull off” is wrong to say.
the Philadelphia Bulletin published a poem which would quickly prove to be ironic:
Still, it really doesn't matter,
After all, who wins the flag.
Good clean sport is what we're after,
And we aim to make our brag
To each near or distant nation
Whereon shines the sporting sun
That of all our games gymnastic
Base ball is the cleanest one!
Jack Dempsey was by far the best fighter that ever lived he knocked two would be car jackers out when he was in his eighties he also broke Jess Willard's jaw in 7 placed he also set a record 22 first round knockouts
ElSmusso you were not there stop lying
What a champ, look at the way he helped Carpentier to his feet after.
He helped a bunch of men up after they fought him
It must have taken a herculean effort for Georges to get to his feet that first time, he must have had some willpower.
I think your'e right because Dempsey barely hit him after he got up and he immediately collapsed completely unable to rise despite his gallant effort.
I’m currently listening to the most incredible audiobook about Dempsey. The detail about Dempsey and the 1920’s really takes you back to that era. The Dempsey who fought Willard; has there been a more hungry and savage fighter. Talk about fighting yourself out of poverty and going to the top of American life. Men were tough at the turn of the twentieth century. My word weren’t they. Dempsey embodied all of that and more. Dempsey was the icon of the 1920’s. His ring craft and brutal toughness was from another era, even then. Have to say I’m in awe of the man. The Dempsey who destroyed Willard in 1919 would have walked through Tunney and any other heavyweight right up to Liston. Now that would have been a contest; Dempsey of 1919 v Liston 1959. Before anyone says it, forgetting the race card, Dempsey would have destroyed Liston.
Nah man come on i'm a huge fan of Dempsey and his style but let's be honest he wouldn't have a chance against Liston, Liston would have flat lined Dempsey and to say that Dempsey would beat everyone up to Liston is again very unlikely, he would have had to go through Rocky Marciano, Gene Tunney, Jersey Joe, Floyd Patterson, and even the great Joe Louis in his prime and even Dempsey himself when asked if he ever met Joe in the ring stated "no, luckily Joe came after my time." Joe would've defeated him.
@@thechadlordboros Joe is on camera NEXT TO Jack, stating “Nobody would’ve beaten Mr. Dempsey in his prime”.
Next.
@@thechadlordboros Only guesses comparing fighters from one era to another. The fact is, no one knows what would have happened because it didn't.
@@thechadlordboros For quotes, Louis said nobody would have beaten Dempsey in his prime and also called Jack the greatest and his number one inspiration but I digress, Dempsey would have knocked them all out up to Ali besides Louis and maybe Liston. Louis and Dempsey would be one of the greatest boxing matches of all time. I wouldn’t bet money on the winner of that one.
Dempsey was scared of wills no way he crawls into the ring with liston
I’m a 70s kid and I have to say there were so many great boxers during this era. Many who could’ve easily been champ, in if born in a different era.
I had met Gerry Cooney, who was truly a great guy, years ago in Manhattan. The man had hands the size of baseball mitts...
I have recently been watching all of the old boxing greats and Dempsey totally changed the game forever!
Thanks for posting this video. I appreciate it.
I’m reading Memoirs of a Dutiful Daughter by Simone de Beauvoir and this fight is mentioned with the French being tearful when Dempsey beat their country man. “An electric sign on the top of the building was giving the progress of the fight between Dempsey and Carpentier in New York.”
Only 100 years ago and 3 years earlier the end of WWI. Amazing!
Carpentier was a better boxer and a better man. He was a legitimate war hero while Dempsey was a draft dodger. Carpentier was also a elegant la boxe Franciose/savate tireur while Dempsy was a brawler . only a man of real courage would move up a weight class to face a slugger like Dempsy. Give that 25 lbs weight advantage to Carpentier and history would have been very different i think. The French produced a great champion and a better man that should be remembered.
Wasn't Ali also a draft dodger?
This fight took place almost 100 years ago... it's August 15, 2019 today, who is watching and reading this comment in 2121?
No one in 2121.
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Wrong. I am.
So are my friends on Mars.
This fight took place in my hometown of Jersey City.
November 11 2020.
@@jimclark6256 lol good one! Decemeber 14th 2020!
90.000 people audence
Gene Tunney said he was at ringside and was shocked at how easy Dempsey was to be hit with a right hand. He said Carpentier pulled past his ear and still landed on Dempseys chin.
Gene Tunney was a better boxer than Dempsey.
Gene fought on the undercard.
Look at all these people, I mean their faces are long gone by now prob and they sit Without knowing that someone might be watching from the furute
That's a new word right there. Furute.
Boardwalk Empire brought me here. Not disapointed.
Read the great Roger Kahn book "A Flame of Pure Fire: Jack Dempsey and the Roaring '20s". Pure enjoyment, gives you a lot of appreciation for Dempsey's toughness as well as entertaining anecdotes.
Dempsey left hook and body attack was brutal. I'll give it to the Frenchmen, he fired all his guns. But .22 no match for a shotgun.
Well put
Es una pena que ya no haya grandes boxeadores ALELUYA
THE BOXING GOOD
The fight of the century
This fight took place in my hometown of Jersey City.
Looks to me like carpentier couldn't handle the short blows in the clinch from the bigger Dempsey. Shame really as his boxing was much classier
Infighting is boxing too.
“Boxing is when you don’t knock your opponent out and only win decisions” ~ this guy
georges seems like a better boxer honestly but that 16lb difference is huge! lol crazy times those were
Thank You Jack ..
why was this even recorded? this was years before there were any televisions to broadcast it on, Its amazing to see such an old fight like this.
Thank you for this upload.
You have heard of movie theatres?
It's more than the weight though. Look at how Loughran went the distance with Primo Carnera, who had 86 lbs on him. Dempsey just fought more effectively and used his pounds better and got to Carpentier more than Georges could get to him.
Happy belated- 126 birthday ,
Jack Dempsey.
It wasn't actually broadcast from the ring. There was an announcer ringside along with a telegrapher, my grandfather in this case, who sent the announcer's calls via telegraph to the radio station, where the "announcer" read off what was going on and added in live commentary. Baseball and other sports were handled the same way for many years. My grandfather used to "predict" what was going to happen next in a radio broadcast because he code hear the morse code in the background and would say what was going to happen before the announcers did.
One of Dempsey's weak points was that his lead was a left hook,
rather than the traditional left jab,
so his left arm was hanging at an angle to properly deliver the hook,
which left him susceptible to overhand rights from right-handers.
Carpentier figured that out, Gene Tunney, a full heavyweight in weight and height,
applied that strategy to perfection.
wheelinthesky300 Dempsey was finished and inactive when he fought Tunney. His left arm being low at an angle wasn't really a problem as he had his head to the right of the centre line with his right glove in front of his chin to protect it whilst his low left protects the body. Sure, he got hit with rights sometimes just like he got hit with lefts but that's boxing, you're not in the right game if you never get hit
andi is correct head off the center is what protects the jaw not a high as left hand ...in fact hands high is bad defense !!!
wheelinthesky300 that’s is because a lead left hook needs sufficient push through the ground to generate power, like most lead punches. Dempsey was a lateral fighter to a fault, punches like his take time to set, you defeat a guy like Dempsey by getting to him first and often so he can’t set his hips.
But Dempsey was furious and there was no one that could match that, Hyatt is largely why he won, like Tyson people were afraid to get in the ring with him.
It is absolutely not a hook. Dempsey used a falling step straight punch for his jab. Read his book.
Well Tunney also got knocked out in the second fight, but they let him get up and recover
I could see Jon Bernthal portraying Jack Dempsey.
When jack is your great uncle
Still believe it beat today's best, making confidence in most things but not fighting. I believe like Benitez said, at my best.
Carpentier lasted just 4 rounds against Dempsey and went 15 rounds against Gene Tunney. Dempsey should've beaten Tunney easily, yet Tunney beat Dempsey twice!
Dempsey hadn't defended the title in 3 years- since the Firpo fight. He boxed a lot of exhibitions but his title wasn't on the line. Tunney simply outboxed him. Twice.
yes, but Carpentier nearly ended the fight in the 2nd round (Jack said so himself that if that right hand had been a little lower he would have gone down), but broke bones in his hand, that and a 20 pound weight disadvantage (Carpentier was a light heavy at best) made the fight a lot shorter. He was clearly the better boxer and landed so many straight rights (even with a busted hand) that Jack was begging for a left.
I knew him
Knew who exactly?
When did they start boxing ?😊
Epic fight. I originally learned about Dempsey from Mike Tyson saying he was from this cloth and yea he definitely was.
ON THIS DAY 99 YEARS AGO.
100 years ago
I was there, what a fight, you shoulde've seen it....
This fight was 100 years ago...
My great uncle was the referee for this fight.
What's so great about your uncle?
@@TheBatugan77 People called this the "fight of the century", and it was the first ever event to bring in over 1,000,000 dollars in revenue.
@@TheBatugan77 www.google.com/search?q=harry+ertle&tbm=isch&source=hp&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDkvfcoo7kAhXBuZ4KHbv7BZoQsAR6BAgFEAE&biw=1440&bih=826#imgrc=XgeqKvwN9uz_zM:, he was also inducted into the New Jersey Boxing HOF.
Wow this was more than 100 years ago
Henry miller said he was at this fight in Sexus
For a small guy, Carpentier did really well....very quick....
If you like film studies of the great old fighters like Dempsey, go to my page. Got a full career breakdown of his skills
Carpentier had a broken thumb from the first round ..
great fight but too bad for Carpentier, he broke his hand in the 1st round
Funny how there was over 80.000 people as audience. No one of the audience is living today.
deep man.
Yeah there are still some alive
@@georgelake3924 No there isn't. If you were born in 1921, you would be roughly 98 years old, nevermind if you were old enough to attend a fight. Everyone in this footage is dead.
These guys are in the same weight class? Wow!
No, Carpentier was a light heavyweight in all actuality.
100 years ago as of yesterday
Now thats why they named the fish after him.
I've argued with many a person about who had the best left hook,...Dempsey or Frazier?......Dempsey wins it for me every time,...it was better delivered, and more disguised, .....where as inFrazier seemed to telegraph his left books , and became very predictable at times.......
8:38 - 8:42 is scary.
like Jack was staring right at me
Good fight. Carpentier had heart and a good right yet lacked the power and stamina to win. Dempsey's suspect defense is obvious and he would pay dearly against Tunney several years later.
Being lighter usually means less power
Carpentier was by far the better boxer but he was obviously too small and slender to keep Dempsey away.
All the movie is not represented here, because there was one moment where all people were stand up . Carpentier was boxing Dempsey without sopping and dempsey pass over the ring because he was falling ! under the punch. But after the carpentier'shand was broken and the match over
@@philippegougeon1086 you replied to a comment made in 2013.
This dude could be dead.
This bout was scheduled for 12 rounds--not 15.
Be quiet.
@@TheBatugan77 Look it up if you think I'm wrong.
Seems like both Carpentier and Dempsey kept their lefts way too low, leaving an opening to anyone with a good right. Both Max Schmeling and Joe Louis had good quick rights which would've finished Dempsey. Carpentierhit Dempsey often, just didn't hit hard enough. Ironically, Mike Tyson, who admired Dempsey, always kept his hands up.
Sorry, but this movie is not OK : there is a mistake between 1st and 2nd round : check the movie, at 1.09 Carpentier's right punch made Jack groggy at 2nd but not at 1st like in the movie, but Jack's skull was too strong, and his hand was directly broken
hey i know this guy👀👀
Dempsey was to easy to hit with a right hand lead, and there was no excuse for it!
Said fucking idiot
basshole
Yeah. Too bad Carpentier's punch didn't have more weight behind it. Gunboat Smith had Carp in the same boat when they fought in 1914, but Eugene Corri blew the call.
HIGH VIOLENCE BOX
do they hug each other the entire fight?
Shittin'&Fartin'...
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Who is here because of The Master Switch?
No one.
Still no one.
Shove your switch.
Jack, always the sportman, helps the french fried loser back to his corner.
This really does show how much better technique fighters today have
What do you know?
Although a star in Europe Carpentier wasn't of the level of the top US fighters.
Kearns played on his reputation though and managed to arouse enough interest for it to generate the first million dollar gate, even though the fight was effectively a mismatch.
Dempsey carried Carpentier for 4 rounds before deciding to finish it.
The guy was french, for goodness sake. Dempsey belts him, he flakes like a croissant and passes out.
There were at least 2 categories of difference between the two fighters ...
George Carpantier was mad to accept such a fight, yet he held
Tex Rickard made the fight not Kearns.
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I stand corrected!
Были же раньше мужчины белые, сейчас одни тряпки. Есть сейчас нормальные белые мужчины?
am I wrong in saying that their style looks dated and the new generation is more better defensivly?
Watch current 154 lb champ Jarred Hurd, his style is very much like Dempsey. How he holds his hands and how he stalks.
Yes taner. You're wrong.
Dempsey could have smashed & pulverized Carpentier if he really wanted to. The French champion should have been taken out on a stretcher. Dempsey was a ferocious lion with powerful Irish Gallowglass genes who curtailed his famed ferocity for the first 3 rounds. Make the fight more interesting & entertaining. Dempsey's fighting prowess was near supernatural.
How long do you think either of them would last in the ring today? 2 rounds before KO?
Nate Elliott the question how long would a modern day fighter last against these too. We see world champions gassing halfway through a fight these days, these guys could go 15 or 20 rounds no problem. Modern nutrition and training methods? my arse!
Sorry, but a modern boxer like Tyson or Holyfield could run circles around these guys. Same for baseball, Babe Ruth would strike out every time against RA Dickey. It's just like the Olympics, Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps blew every other Olympian away since the games began.
that is right Dempsey was Practically starving before he became heavyweight champion of the world it was aftreHe became champion he started to bulk up with weight
Dempsey was a savage he trained not just hard he trained mean
Dempsey would compete bur Carpentier was a powder puff puncherr
Carpentier's gloves seem unusually large compared to Dempsey's. Could just be the size of his forearms though. Wonder how many of Dempsey's body blows strayed below the line.
dempsey took it easy on carpentier until the round he knocked him out in he was letting the paying crowd see a fight he could have knocked carpentier out at any time
Tex Rickard knew Dempsey was his meal-ticket so he hand-picked his opponents. He didn't want Jack to fight Tom Gibbons because Gibbons could make him look bad. He especially didn't want him to fight Harry Wills or Harry Greb for the same reason.
Oh come
Who came here because of boardwalk empire?
Re-watching this series rn
Not me, ziggy
Bien plus intéressant qu'un combat de Floyd Mayweather...
This commentator makes me laugh. Early on he admits the proper pronunciation of the challenger's surname is "car-pawn-tee-ay" but goes right on calling him "car-pen-teer." The man is entitled to the dignity of having his name correctly pronounced. Why is it almost always a struggle for Americans to pronounce French names properly?
"Waaaahhhhhh, waaaaahhhhhhh"
Uh...because they're ignorant? What do I win?
Why is it difficult for French to pronounce English properly. Ask them to say Ohio. Their O sounds like H, thus it comes out "Ho i o"
Look how many times Carpentier was able to land his right hand. Harry Wills was a better boxer and had more weight behind his punches. If he hit Dempsey as often as the little Frenchman did, Wills would be champ.
Both in white shorts. What happened to common sense????????
for Carpentier to win was to run away like Mayweather
Carpentier was about 20 lbs lighter and nailed Jack so hard in the 2nd round that he broke his hand. Good to keep moving under those conditions.