It didn't matter how fast the ref counted. When a fighter loses his " legs " in a match, he's not going to beat the count. Braddock was not able to get up after that " bomb" that Joe Louis dropped on him.
Louis said Braddock was the bravest man he ever fought.Not many fighters could hurt Louis in his prime ,James was one ,Schmelling was the other.Wallcot knocked him down twice,but Louis was done at that point.
I'm sold on Jimmy Bradock,he lost that fight but that was the great Joe Louis in there,one of the best heavys of all time,and Braddock was going with him for a while
that's what you call getting knocked out properly. none of this , let's just beat the 10 count thing.... He wasn't getting up for a while. I wouldn't mind losing the heavyweight belt to a guy who did that to me.
Louis once called Braddock the bravest he ever fought, and you can see why, with the bombs he was taking throughout, but, like the champion he was, he kept coming forward punching. Cinderella was onto a better thing than he knew at the time: because Schmelling was supposed to fight him, having beaten Louis the previous summer, his people were able to negotiate a deal for giving Louis the shot whereby if Braddock lost he'd get a percentage of every defence made by the new champion. Strange coincidence, Louis getting knocked down by a left hook in the first; the same thing happened to Marciano against Walcott, and British legendary boxing journalist Peter Wilson was at both fights. Both times the title changed hands as a result of explosively devastating right hands. Braddock had never been down before and never fought again, the punch left a lifelong scar on his lower lip. Wilson described it as the hardest single punch he ever saw one human being land on another. He called the Suzy Q that floored Walcott 15 years later the hardest punch he ever saw.
He counted that fast , because he knew Braddock could not take any more punishment from Louis, and Braddock had of beat the count he could have gotten killed by another of Joe's murderous punches !
Can anyone give me advice on how to obtain video recordings of 1930s boxing matches? How exactly do you go about searching for material that's not already on youtube? I'm looking for Sammy "Kid" Slaughter, an African-American boxer of the early 1930s and can't find video anywhere.
Seriously doubt any film of Slaughter exists. He only won state belts, not national belts. Someone might have recorded one of his fights but the film didn't survive to make it to the era of TH-cam.
I didn't like how every time Braddock got Lewis in the corner the Ref would immediately break them up and move them back to the middle of the ring. Getting opponents in the corner is a fucking strategy not a bad thing. Bullshit! He clearly got whopped but they counted in half seconds back then. You had 5 secs to get the hell up.Reminds me of Refs in fake ass wrestling. Not just this fight but every old fight I have watched.
lewis was vulnerable to the right hand. looks like lewis hurt braddock to the body earlier on. setting up the KO. got to wonder how many fights braddock had to throw back in the day.
Who said no one remembers him I think only you ! the entire Planet knows that he was the greatest of them all and held the title for almost 12 years no one did this after him !
Louis had much better defence and modern like blow technique . his opponent walks with low hands all the time. Louis was beatable but there were no boxers with modern style movements.
You are so funny. Louis was one of the best ever and belongs in the same category as Ali. Him beating Max Schmelling in their second fight was a major propaganda blow to the Nazi regime. Braddock was a great champion with a compelling story but don't rag on Louis.
Stupid , Stupid question , this movie is almost 80 years old , and very low black and white quality , man is this a stupid question , I could go of on this one Idiot !
All this fight does is confirm to me that Louis---flat-footed and overly deliberate---wouldn't have had a chance with Dempsey and especially Clay, at their best. Waaaaayyyy too slow. He'd have literally never touched the 1960s' version of Clay, whose skills were extra-terrestrial-like. Know how a fight between the two would have gone? Look at the film of Clay's 1966 fight with Cleveland Williams. Like Williams, Louis would have been so overmatched foot speed-wise...and punching-wise, it would have been embarrassing to watch. Dempsey, with his tigerish bobbing-weavering style, killer instinct, and power, would have jumped Louis so fast, Joe literally wouldn't know what hit him. If you had no lateral movement or creativity...stood right in front of him and tried to fight him head-to-head, of course he'd have knocked out the opponent. Louis looked so good because his opponents allowed him to do so. I don't like saying all this, but I'm a realistic fight fan. I don't call things as I see them, I call them as they are. And would have been.
And while we're at it, let's be honest. The super massive heavyweights of our day would have obliterated the smaller, slower, less technical fighters of the past. Can anyone honestly see Louis, Marciano, or Dempsey handling a 6'5 257 lb Lennox Lewis, Vladamir Klitchko, Or even Tyson Fury? Too much size, and too much raw power. Larry Holmes said it best when he said "Rocky Marciano couldn't carry my jock strap." Tasteless and crude, but ultimately true.
louis would have lost to Ali most likely, but he was far to defensive for Dempsey. Dempsey fought like the older school fighters like Jack Johnson and Harry Greb. I feel Louis boxing was much closer to modern boxing which was a huge leap in skill from Jack Dempsey's days.
I completely disagree. Louis is not flat footed. He's a model of efficient footwork. He deliberately stalks his opponent and cuts down their fighting room. Billy Conn was fast, and a very good boxer, far superior to most modern boxers, but as Louis said of the second bout. "He can run, but he can't hide". Ali and Dempsey would have been tracked down and put away just like the rest. Also Louis would not have exhausted himself like Foreman. Ali would have been completely powerless against Louis in his prime. Louis's footwork keeps him in balance and allows him to unleash those deadly, lighting like combinations with amazing accuracy and power. Don't mistake flash for efficiency. In Louis your looking at the most technically competent heavy weight in history. Ali was never able to put people away like Louis because his style never allowed him to generate that type of power. Look at Louis fight Primo Carnera, or Buddy Baer. Two giants and good boxers. When he finishes them off they just collapse, as if all the energy has been drained from them. That's power. Dancin' aint boxing!
It didn't matter how fast the ref counted. When a fighter loses his " legs " in a match, he's not going to beat the count. Braddock was not able to get up after that " bomb" that Joe Louis dropped on him.
that "Bomb" th-cam.com/video/5impNKGQkC4/w-d-xo.html
Louis said Braddock was the bravest man he ever fought.Not many fighters could hurt Louis in his prime ,James was one ,Schmelling was the other.Wallcot knocked him down twice,but Louis was done at that point.
In Louis vs Wallcot 2 , louis knocked Wallcot out.
Now you know why they called him the Brown Bomber !!! Braddock was a hell-of-a fighter,but Louis was the bomb!!!!!
Louis said that Braddock was the Toughest and Bravest fighter he Ever Fought.
did anyone catch louis punching braddock's arm before he ko'ed him? punched the lead arm and then followed it with vicious right. What a tactician.
It looked like a left hook to the solar plex , then an over hand right !
I'm sold on Jimmy Bradock,he lost that fight but that was the great Joe Louis in there,one of the best heavys of all time,and Braddock was going with him for a while
that's what you call getting knocked out properly. none of this , let's just beat the 10 count thing.... He wasn't getting up for a while. I wouldn't mind losing the heavyweight belt to a guy who did that to me.
Louis once called Braddock the bravest he ever fought, and you can see why, with the bombs he was taking throughout, but, like the champion he was, he kept coming forward punching. Cinderella was onto a better thing than he knew at the time: because Schmelling was supposed to fight him, having beaten Louis the previous summer, his people were able to negotiate a deal for giving Louis the shot whereby if Braddock lost he'd get a percentage of every defence made by the new champion. Strange coincidence, Louis getting knocked down by a left hook in the first; the same thing happened to Marciano against Walcott, and British legendary boxing journalist Peter Wilson was at both fights. Both times the title changed hands as a result of explosively devastating right hands. Braddock had never been down before and never fought again, the punch left a lifelong scar on his lower lip. Wilson described it as the hardest single punch he ever saw one human being land on another. He called the Suzy Q that floored Walcott 15 years later the hardest punch he ever saw.
Pow, right on the kisser
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That count was way too fast. No reff ever counts a fighter out that fast.
+clip11 I agree with you man, I loved Braddock but he was clearly out cold!
Agreed. Louis almost took off Braddock's head with that punch!
He counted that fast , because he knew Braddock could not take any more punishment from Louis, and Braddock had of beat the count he could have gotten killed by another of Joe's murderous punches !
if Joe got you in trouble, stick yourself with a fork, cause you are DONE. Best finisher ever among heavier. Patient, efficient and deadly
Can anyone give me advice on how to obtain video recordings of 1930s boxing matches? How exactly do you go about searching for material that's not already on youtube? I'm looking for Sammy "Kid" Slaughter, an African-American boxer of the early 1930s and can't find video anywhere.
Seriously doubt any film of Slaughter exists. He only won state belts, not national belts. Someone might have recorded one of his fights but the film didn't survive to make it to the era of TH-cam.
I didn't like how every time Braddock got Lewis in the corner the Ref would immediately break them up and move them back to the middle of the ring. Getting opponents in the corner is a fucking strategy not a bad thing. Bullshit! He clearly got whopped but they counted in half seconds back then. You had 5 secs to get the hell up.Reminds me of Refs in fake ass wrestling. Not just this fight but every old fight I have watched.
lewis was vulnerable to the right hand. looks like lewis hurt braddock to the body earlier on. setting up the KO.
got to wonder how many fights braddock had to throw back in the day.
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louis held the title 12 years, no one remembers him??????
Who said no one remembers him I think only you ! the entire Planet knows that he was the greatest of them all
and held the title for almost 12 years no one did this after him !
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si el combate lo hace con 5años menos, no creo que luis hubiera ganado. BUEN COMBATE.
Louis had much better defence and modern like blow technique . his opponent walks with low hands all the time.
Louis was beatable but there were no boxers with modern style movements.
joe loise was not a boxer,, no on remembers hi,m,every one remembers jimmy
You are so funny. Louis was one of the best ever and belongs in the same category as Ali. Him beating Max Schmelling in their second fight was a major propaganda blow to the Nazi regime. Braddock was a great champion with a compelling story but don't rag on Louis.
louis was just a nobody, he never did anything fro boxing
how come.both of these guys look like their white
Stupid , Stupid question , this movie is almost 80 years old , and very low black and white quality , man is this a stupid question , I could go of on this one Idiot !
louise was just another black wanna be
All this fight does is confirm to me that Louis---flat-footed and overly deliberate---wouldn't have had a chance with Dempsey and especially Clay, at their best. Waaaaayyyy too slow. He'd have literally never touched the 1960s' version of Clay, whose skills were extra-terrestrial-like. Know how a fight between the two would have gone? Look at the film of Clay's 1966 fight with Cleveland Williams. Like Williams, Louis would have been so overmatched foot speed-wise...and punching-wise, it would have been embarrassing to watch. Dempsey, with his tigerish bobbing-weavering style, killer instinct, and power, would have jumped Louis so fast, Joe literally wouldn't know what hit him. If you had no lateral movement or creativity...stood right in front of him and tried to fight him head-to-head, of course he'd have knocked out the opponent. Louis looked so good because his opponents allowed him to do so. I don't like saying all this, but I'm a realistic fight fan. I don't call things as I see them, I call them as they are. And would have been.
And while we're at it, let's be honest. The super massive heavyweights of our day would have obliterated the smaller, slower, less technical fighters of the past.
Can anyone honestly see Louis, Marciano, or Dempsey handling a 6'5 257 lb Lennox Lewis, Vladamir Klitchko, Or even Tyson Fury? Too much size, and too much raw power.
Larry Holmes said it best when he said "Rocky Marciano couldn't carry my jock strap."
Tasteless and crude, but ultimately true.
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louis would have lost to Ali most likely, but he was far to defensive for Dempsey. Dempsey fought like the older school fighters like Jack Johnson and Harry Greb. I feel Louis boxing was much closer to modern boxing which was a huge leap in skill from Jack Dempsey's days.
I completely disagree. Louis is not flat footed. He's a model of efficient footwork. He deliberately stalks his opponent and cuts down their fighting room. Billy Conn was fast, and a very good boxer, far superior to most modern boxers, but as Louis said of the second bout. "He can run, but he can't hide". Ali and Dempsey would have been tracked down and put away just like the rest. Also Louis would not have exhausted himself like Foreman. Ali would have been completely powerless against Louis in his prime.
Louis's footwork keeps him in balance and allows him to unleash those deadly, lighting like combinations with amazing accuracy and power.
Don't mistake flash for efficiency. In Louis your looking at the most technically competent heavy weight in history.
Ali was never able to put people away like Louis because his style never allowed him to generate that type of power. Look at Louis fight Primo Carnera, or Buddy Baer. Two giants and good boxers. When he finishes them off they just collapse, as if all the energy has been drained from them. That's power. Dancin' aint boxing!