FIRST PIECE OF FAKE SILVER? FAKE SILVER GUIDE
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- Test out a questionable 1 oz Scottsdale Mint bar. Tips and tricks how to prevent buying fake silver pieces. Tests you can do at home to verify your silver. Things to look for when trying to identify counterfeit silver bullion.
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Insane how many sellers would actually scam buyer's with these replica bars/bullions. Ruins it for everyone.
Shouldve weighed both. More satisfactory for us doubters. 👍
I know I thought about that after the video 🤦🏻♂️
There is an actual bright side to having a fake round or bar, as long as it is only a couple that you end up getting. They can be good teaching tools if you ever have a silver convert wanting to start stacking. I actually hope to run across a fake one for that purpose. Thanks for the video, Guido!
I got you bro $dollar over spot 😂
You were the fist person that got me into silver and made me wanna make my vids. Much love brother
That’s awesome! Have you started making vids??
Another great informative video..wow. And yes you already know I have received 2 fake art bars already. Getting tired of it. Not going to buy them anymore from people I don't know are reputable. I learned my lesson. This surely helps.....plus get that Neodymium N52 rare earth magnet too.
Thanks, I'm getting a magnetic slide to test it there too and have some fun...
Good info bro. Just bought my first bar. I need to do a specific gravity test on Morgan's and Peace dollars as well.
Best thing you can do in my opinion is buy from reputable sellers
Nice, I have some of the sunshine mint bars but didn't even know you can buy one of the $15 validators
It's never nice to get scammed.
Another great video, buddy.👍
Fingers crossed, I never get any fake silver.. ;)
Wow!! That was pretty neat... I know what to do now...
Thanks for the information. Take care.
Really good vids bro! 👌
Great information. Thank you
I like my Sigma Metalytics precious metal verifier. Makes it super quick and easy to test metals.
I worked at sunshine mint in the meltroom for 5 years in couer d alene it's always fun seeing there stuff around and knowing that I helped in the process of it I own a couple smi coins.
I do the same tests on everything as I get it in. It's tedious but I'd rather know.
Thanks for the lesson! I shy away from ebay and i only get sunshine bars. I mean i also get pandas and britannias so far and i get them from online retailers so i SHOULD be safe, i guess lol!
Nice channel! I'd like to suggest that always record what you buy in a spreadsheet, you can get a refund as long as it's purchased through eBay or reputable dealers. So far I haven't gotten any fakes yet. The only questionable one was the 5oz Sunshine Mint bar, I freaked out it didn't pass the 999 test on the Sigma Verifier at first, had to use 99.9 setting and it was ok (not as pure?).
Interesting. Thanks for the info. Kinda worried bout some of my stuff now too.
Always good to double check 👍
You guys check out the difference between thickness of pre 2007 eagles and post 2007 eagles. I just bought a role of 2005s and they end up being one coin higher than my 2013s, 2016s, and 2018s, when stacked side by side. Are yours the same?
Thanks Guido. For audiences sake I would have liked to see test repeated for good bar too.
I thought about that afterwards 😭
@@GuidoStackin still a good demo ... I second guess videos I make too.
Great video very educational
What is up....GUYS! - love it 😂
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I always try to buy sovereign coins and not bars or rounds. Canadian Maples are key. Relatively cheap with a ton of security and worldwide recognition.
That's why I love sunshine mint
Always listen to the guy! Gut instinct is mostly correct!
The Australian Perth mint Silver Kangaroos have a tiny laser engraved letter A inside the last A of Australian on the coin that can be seen with a magnifying glass.
Not sure what year they started doing this but it makes the coins way harder to fake.
Thanks for that info Mon Ami.... I did not know that, you taught me a good way to test silver, Does that pertain to coinage also ??? Morgan dollars and such ?? I don't want to put my coins in water , but I was just curious ....
Yes it does work but you would have to find out the specific gravity of what you’re testing. This is for pure silver, 90% silver will have a different specific gravity
good information
Guido thank you for sharing the video on those bars have always made me suspect. I am amazed the size and dimensions are correct and the way is spot on yet is fake. Obviously this is non-magnetic too? Have you ever seen a really good faked kookaburra coin?
The size looks a little off as well and thickness. Great video. Good advice about using floss instead of string.
Thanks for checking it out Sal! It’s a shame more video like this are popping up lately
You can make filler alloy with lead and aluminium that has the same specific weight as silver and that doesnt get attracted to magnetism. How to check for that?
I bought a fake 1oz lady Fortuna silver on eBay. That was my second piece of that. It looked different than what I bought from APMEX- it had weird shoulder lines, and oversized figure taking most of the space of front bar, and the fingers were not smooth/looked stiff. I bought it two years ago and seller kept denying it. I just kept it for educational purposes. The color was ok, but the way the figure. Was imprinted I got more doubtful as I got more lady fortuna from legitnsources later on.
Unfortunately there are a lot of those lady fortuna counterfeits floating around 😒
Archimedes principle!
So much wet silver today.
It would be nice if you did several tests on both pieces and showed the results. The ping test, weighing , magnetic slide, specific gravity and acid test . It would be interesting to see if the results would show as differing. Is 10.09 really a significant deviation considering your scales may be a little off??
I know 😭 the scale is accurate after a little tinkering maybe I’ll do a retest 🤔
Were can i buy that tool and how much is it the certification card that is?
I love scottsdale silver but that's why I buy sunshine mint bar's and rounds
I know this is an old video, but most of the visual things you pointed that made you question is actually what makes it look like the bar on their website.
I just bought two fake silver eagles after just my second trip to my local pawn shop the magnet jerked the whole coin out of my hand very disappointing especially just my second purchase according to how they handle this ill be ordering my silver for now on unless i can figure something out with my local pawn shop because this cant keep happening im jot going to fuss much but I definitely wont be back
Do you think we should be wary of generic sold by the major distributors? Apmex for one example sells mixed generic bars at less a premium than any of their other bars.
I would assume they test all their bars, those mixed lots are usually pieces they’ve bought back from customers I still never mess with it
But if we all will only buy from Scottsdale directly, how do we sell it
Getting eBay to honor their guarantee is not always easy. Also, PayPal often won’t have your back. I’ve had to rely on disputing transactions with my bank many times. eBay and PayPal do their bare minimum to prevent scammers or protect their customers
A month ago I seen your channel for the first time and got me into silver stacking. I saved up and bought 3 silver coins online. They ended up being fake. My first silver purchase and there fake. Very heart breaking. We work hard for what little we have. But this weekend my wife and I was able to purchase 3 ounces from a pawnshop. 1.50 over spot for generic rounds. Is that a good deal? Think it was $18.30 each.
You can find some genetics for cheaper online but still not a bad deal plus silver has gone up since you got them 😬😬
Hi, i have a one pound silver certificate, my measurements came out to 10.59, it is real? Thanks, Jim
I'm very new to silver. I just received my first silver coins in the mail. I'm just starting to learn the different ways to test silver, and I don't see the point of the specific gravity test, unless the piece you're testing has an odd shape. In your video you show two pieces of silver that look very similar. If one of the two pieces has a lower specific gravity, aren't you just saying that it has a lower density? That means if you measure the piece with a caliper, it should be larger than the other, correct? If that's all you have to do, why bother submerging the piece in water? Just measure the height, width, and thickness, and make sure they are correct. There is another thing that I find very confusing: If I'm trying to create a counterfeit, the first thing I will attempt to do is to mimic the density of the metal. In the case of gold, I can use tungsten because it has almost the same density as gold. But in the case of silver, is it not easy to simply take a cheap metal with a lower density and a cheap metal with a higher density and create an alloy with the correct density? It doesn't seem hard to create a counterfeit with the right density so it seems this test will only catch very poorly made counterfeits.
Dude those stickers are bad ass. Who fakes silver? How rude.
Thanks Nug! I can send you one if you want 😬😬
Heck yeah, I’ll sport it in my videos
They are the bomb Nug..... His is one I don't have....
You should do a giveaway and giveaway the fake bar.
Does this method work with silver shot/grains? I'm getting numbers that are too low, like 8.
Yes as long as it’s .999 it should be the same process
@@GuidoStackin maybe my medium of was too absorbant. Gotta try out different mediums to dip the shots into water. Any suggestions what to use?
I would like to see a comparision instead of the results of the fake one only
What would the math look like on a good piece of silver?
999 silver should be 31.104 grams of silver, gravity of 10.49 grams, weight in water of 2.97 grams (I think)
Water density test, FYI. Golds density is 19.3 g
I only buy In businesses like
APMEX
I noticed that Bold is out of 2018 Tigers
How frustrating!! I haven’t found one in my stack yet but you never know. Thankfully 90% of my stack comes from SGB so the chance is a little less. I haven’t been brave enough to buy from eBay 😂
eBay can be a dangerous place for PM’s 😂
Back in 08 I got a fake peace dollar and a fake Morgan from an eBay seller. I didn’t know it then. They were in certified capsules and supposedly graded. Once I found out they were fake I decided not to buy from eBay again. I have never purchased anything else from eBay
Ouch, sorry brother
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Wish sells counterfeit bars and coins and they look real.
I only buy my generic silver from established and reputable online silver dealers. I've never considered going to through eBay for the generic stuff.
I've only dabbled in poured silver and junk on eBay.
Why didn’t you demonstrated both pieces.
Reall bro
I just don't get it. Would you kindly refer me to a written procedure in order for me to understand. I don't understand your procedure and I need to test my stuff. I apologize for my stupidity. Thank you so much.
They have gotten so good we really don't know how fake silver we ignorantly possess. I am considering not buying any silver or gold right now.
My local coin shop WON'T even take generic silver!! LOL.........I would rather see someone Over pay for American Eagles, than buy generic crap....I think premiums are the new Normal, and will Keep going up....and at least you will recoup most of your money with US Mint.
what does the magnet slide come up as?
It actually had almost the same resistance as the real one pretty crazy
that’s so weird. it’s gotta have at least a layer of silver on top then. you wouldn’t think that worth counterfitting
How about using a magnet? I have a fake Scottsdale, it's magnetic.
It actually had a little resistance believe it or not 🤔
Older fakes were magnetic they have learned to make them non magnetic by using copper and such.
@@Tinstared Yeah, I know. I have such coins as well.
Yep the finish on the lion is kinda dull not shiny
For an ounce of silver.......3 is the magic number
I'm confused. How do you know for sure? Maybe your scale is off. 10.09 is very close. If the counterfeiter went to that much trouble, why not just use the real element? How was this bar faked? What did they use instead of silver? And how was it faked more cheaply than the real thing for the faker to make a profit? And how do coin shops verify? What if you tried to sell that to a dealer? Would the dealer pull out a glass of water? So many questions.
The silver content is like 740 silver, 260 copper. total weight 31.081 grams, weight in water 3.09 grams, gravity 10.04 grams
999 silver should be 31.104 grams of silver, gravity of 10.49 grams, weight in water of 2.97 grams (I think)
Specific gravity doesn’t lye
could be the camera but they don't even look the same dimensions
Yeah they’re off by just a tad
Ampex is great 👍
95% of the silver on eBay are fake.....
If that were true no one would buy on there. Very stupid.
Great video! Thank you!
Can I trust scottsdalemint.com ?
Go to Ebay and search for xl fart in a antique bell jar and read the description
You can all thank me later
Enjoy and happy stacking keep it shiny people
Haha. I just checked it out. That's hilarious. I'm watching it to see if anyone buys! Haha
@@raginggamer2109 thanks
Guido, send this off bud, I will send you a fake ASE. I am sending another off to another TH-camr
Ok sounds good 👍👍👍
Check them out on a Sigma Metalytics machine. Easy, quick, accurate, and non-destructive. Best investment I ever made. Works on Gold, silver, platinum, etc.
You didnt show real silver
That sucks how people sometimes get scammed, specially when they can’t afford much and save up so much and when at the time of buying its fake. That’s just sad 😞
Very sad 😢
@@GuidoStackin Yep, there are thieves about unfortunately.
Are silver eagles faked much??
Yes, and easy to get. Easy to get, easy to fake and easy to sell. Nothing but yes.
I’d only buy them from reputable dealers
Fake silver! Gross!
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Nothing worse than watching videos and when you find one that you think is good this horrible rock ‘n’ roll music is blasting out of your speaker so loud it wakes up half your house. Get real
No one understand your math.
Wish you do the math for good one and show results