[TAS] ARMAGEDDON in

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  • This is the fastest completion of ARMAGEDDON. It is also the first (apart from the hack creator) completion of this hack.
    Input frames: 72475
    Rerecords: 147397 (includes rewinds)
    This is a tool-assisted speedrun. For more information, visit tasvideos.org
    This TAS was played on version 1.1 of the hack.
    Download the hack: smwc.me/s/27209
    Download the movie file: bin.smwcentral.net/u/23118/Ar...
    Comments:
    - This is an amazing hack. Throughout the entire 20 minutes it keeps showing you new obscure mechanics and forces you to really understand them. More than anything else, this hack was a massive learning experience for me.
    - The music choices and the graphics used give this hack a very unique atmosphere. I really appreciate that the stereotypical "Hard level = loud, fast-paced music" approach wasn't used.
    - This is easily the TAS I spend the most time and effort on. It's also my first TAS passing 100k rerecords (a pretty big number!).
    - Difficulty-wise, this hack is not to be underestimated, with a lot of seemingly innocent sections that turn out to be really precise. This is especially cool to see because the main drivers of difficulty in other pit hacks, shell jump chains, are completely absent from this hack.
    - Now that there is an optimized TAS, I can confirm that this is indeed the longest pit hack in existence: Even Non-Reznor'd ColonThree is about half a minute shorter.
    - My (ambitious) goal for this run was to get a time of under 20 minutes. I'm surprised I almost hit it: dacin's reference movie is about 5:40 slower and I'm just off by 6 seconds. I'll call that a win.
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  • @NoisedeGole
    @NoisedeGole 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    this is easily my favorite pit hack TAS... absolutelly loved the fishing boo room, amazing job man

    • @YaminKK
      @YaminKK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Conheci essa hack por causa do seu canal e agora tô viciado em assitir esse tipo de hack inclusive as do seu canal

    • @zLukaasPvPz
      @zLukaasPvPz 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      O vídeo dele foi top, eu já acompanho esses TASes a um tempo mas a Armageddon sempre me facina ​@@YaminKK

  • @williamcompitello2302
    @williamcompitello2302 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Diavolo: So, what are you in for?

  • @conankun88
    @conankun88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ich bin fasziniert, verstört und vollkommen verwirrt zugleich

  • @LouisDoucet
    @LouisDoucet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Incredible work, both from you and dacin. Good job!

  • @Slopcore
    @Slopcore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Absolutely amazing both as a creation and a playthrough

  • @wolfguy423
    @wolfguy423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i have no idea how to do any of this, but its still super fun to watch!

  • @Dacinthewizard
    @Dacinthewizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Congrats on the first clear and thanks for making an optimized run!
    0:13 didn't even do a p-jump. wow.
    1:03 when you said this didn't look as cool when done fast, I honestly expected much worse. This is still fine.
    1:10 I like how the dead koopa falls down.
    1:14 oof, that hurts
    1:16 nice, you avoided the message box that trash talks you for hitting it.
    1:53 This is what happens when you change a section so often that it no longer makes sense. (I couldn't get this shell spin jump clip to work for the longest time.)
    3:10 no death music? addmusicK PLS
    3:51 wow, nice use of smw's proximity detection. I like how the rip van fish can't decide whether it wants to clip into the sprite only block afterwards.
    4:22 I love how fast these spring strats are.
    4:39 sad, but I can only blame myself for not catching this. at least you still did the spring slope clip.
    4:47 that shell toss is a nice touch.
    5:15 see ya koopa. Also, nice strat where you run into the throw block to give it less x-speed.
    6:04 neat, you did this without having to go into the spike hole below.
    6:14 useless turn block is useless...
    7:27 nice, you did this section by going down just twice. Also shoutouts to the single blue block that used to be a spike that used to force low spin jumps.
    8:37 wow, this looks much easier than what I did here.
    8:45 ... (I'm say you skipped the spring board dupe, but on the other hand, I think this together with some other ARMAGEDDON strats makes for a MASSIVE time save in Item Abuse 1.)
    9:18 sad. just sad.
    9:49 I like how you dropped the spring into the wall.
    11:17 It's nice to see that you can do this in one go. (Why did I do a low first jump??)
    11:27 Nice use of the lava.
    11:47 wow, this break is just amazing. Not only do you have to move the fishin' boo down slightly, you also do a throw block jump I didn't know was possible, and you make use of the lava on the right. While I still prefer the intended strat a lot, I'm not even mad this exists.
    12:04 this fast mushroom duping looks dope.
    12:35 hfLucky didn't even need to manipulate the RNG koopa.
    12:15 It's nice to see you also do the last p-shell jump on the right side of the lava. That's at least one thing that survided...
    13:18 why do a cool speed-cancel strat if you can just hit the p-switch further up.
    13:33 Nice wall jump, but I'm happy you did at least one screen scroll to reset the pause cool down. (There would be spikes on the right if it wasn't a pain to build that part with custom graphics.
    13:51 neat, you didn't even need to get the mushroom to jump up first.
    14:44 this fast strat is really cool. On a related note: I have no idea why screen scrolling kills you while inside note blocks like this. Do you know?
    16:08 This is so much cleaner than the mess I did here.
    16:21 I'm disappointed you didn't get the moon. I even taught you the trick needed in an earlier room... (It's fairly precise.)
    16:42 phew, I was very much afraid there would be a way to keep the key here.
    16:48 I'm still laughing about the dump reason the pause is required.
    17:14 I'm glad this section survived.
    17:45 I'm pleasantly surprised there's a way to not make the koopa lie on the ground for ages
    18:07 That note block is completely accidental, but I love it.
    18:36 I shouldn't have allows this. Not only is the intended strat cooler, but this makes the high speed section a lot more confusing since it gives you more speed to work with.
    19:02 I really should have kept those flunchers there...
    19:25 neat, you even used the shorter death ceiling to your advantage.
    I think having a loud fast-paced music for 20 minutes would have been to much.
    In addition, the calmer music fits a lot better for slower setups like 2:17 3:48 6:40
    Make a hack longer that :3 wasn't my goal, it's more a side effect of all the stuff I wanted to include. I even patched the intro message and switch block animation on the OW to make this shorter.
    I'm not surprised you saved this much time. The reference movie isn't optimized. In fact, some parts are intentionally much slower to show of some stuff (messages, more obvious screen scrolls etc.)
    Time to reject this for too many breaks... ...in all seriousness, I think leaving some breaks for the first player makes for a more interesting playing experience, but there are also some sections where I just missed an obvious boring strat that sometimes even skips a cool subtle part. This mainly happens if you rebuild a section a bunch of times, so the intended solution becomes really ingrained in you. A big difficulty is that you probably need to have beaten CATACLYSM to have a reasonable chance at this (+you also need be good at breaking stuff), so there isn't really anybody else that could playtest this .
    How many secrets did you find?

    • @xHF01x
      @xHF01x  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1:53 Now I'm even more curious how the spinjump was originally forced
      4:22 These springboard strats only work as well as they do because I don't have to keep the throwblock. The break at 4:39 really saves more time than one might expect.
      6:04 I didn't even realize the spike hole was there until I read your comment. I think this is one of those setups that gets easier when you try to do it quickly.
      8:45 For the record: I did optimize the springboard duplication and only discovered the break while trying to get into the door as quickly as possible. Only then did I notice that I didn't actually need the second springboard. Anyway, sub 2 in Item Abuse when?
      9:18 Agreed.
      11:47 On top of that, actually grabbing the goomba isn't trivial either. In fact, for a long time I wasn't convinced that I had achieved anything significant by getting Yoshi up there because grabbing the goomba just appeared to be completely impossible.
      14:43 I don't understand it either.
      16:21 I totally expected that moon to just be decoration and that it wasn't actually reachable in a run... I'll have to think about it.
      16:42 Even if it was possible to keep the key: Would that even help? The sprite slots are already full a lot of the time and with the key even more things would despawn...
      18:07 I think I just noticed a way to prevent that note block from being there... Oops.
      18:36 How do you prevent this though? Despawning sprites is way too easy at this speed (I didn't even have to pause...)
      19:02 What would these flunchers actually achieve though? Forcing the player to get a second cape doesn't seem that interesting tbh.
      I only found one secret (you know which one). I didn't really look for them, especially since you can't show them off in a clear video... I do have my suspicions on where to look for other secrets though.
      I'll accept the hack now. It has been sitting in the waiting queue for long enough I think and the breaks definitely aren't severe enough to warrant a rejection (even the break in the fishing boo room is a complicated and precise mess). In case you do want to fix some stuff, you can always submit an update later.

    • @Dacinthewizard
      @Dacinthewizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@xHF01x 1:53 the point is, it took me forever to find a setup where the intended clip even works. With most of the earlier version you either hit the shell too early or got killed by the non-shell sprite that was there instead.
      4:22 I do like the spring strats and the rightward clip needed to do the zip, so maybe I'll leave them in.
      6:04 It's sad that you don't have to do sticky fly on the flat ceiling, but I don't see an easy way to force you to loose -56 air either.
      11:47 I though you could just do the revival glitch instead of the goomba jump, but maybe the fishin' boo is too low at that point. The most difficult part here is definitely getting Yoshi up there.
      18:36 have the level end at the lava on the right, so you can't unload the pencil.
      19:02 I think it's neat to show off that you can get multiple capes from a single super koopa.

    • @ashmantas6824
      @ashmantas6824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dacinthewizard I like how xhfo1x tas smw very hard pit hack that I can believe in my eyes

  • @Null42x86
    @Null42x86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This hack is a master piece

  • @dicknijmegen
    @dicknijmegen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this hurts my head

  • @Lungfish-md3zj
    @Lungfish-md3zj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant all around!

  • @moreluxarion2522
    @moreluxarion2522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    alternative title: luigi shows off his smw skills

  • @user-ze1ow1ex9j
    @user-ze1ow1ex9j 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    17:09 | Earthbound - Metal Handles

  • @DJ_Locks
    @DJ_Locks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely stunning! GG!
    18:55 Totally-not-an-Immelmann ^_^

  • @ashmantas6824
    @ashmantas6824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how you TAS that hack I am going to TAS these levels as a practice well done GIF

  • @Alterate2460
    @Alterate2460 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TAS 𝙰𝙶𝚁𝙰𝙳𝙰́𝚅𝙴𝙻

  • @viperforty8450
    @viperforty8450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The least expected thing from this run for me is pure furies at 18:30 for some unknown reason, and i love it

  • @JammyJotato
    @JammyJotato 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No way you did this

  • @gaffythefox
    @gaffythefox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what is the song in the level mario is trapped in? its really good but i dont know how to search for it

  • @td011
    @td011 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im impressed

  • @Pokemonmasterandtrade
    @Pokemonmasterandtrade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @Spulg
    @Spulg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wer reitet so spät durch nacht und wind es ist hf

    • @conankun88
      @conankun88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mein Sohn, was birgst du so bang dein Gesicht?
      Siehst, Vater, du den Pithack nicht?

    • @Dacinthewizard
      @Dacinthewizard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Du lieber subpixel, komm, geh mit mir!
      Gar schöne glitches spiel’ ich mit dir;

  • @BlazingKhioneus
    @BlazingKhioneus ปีที่แล้ว

    Hiw does this hack advance the stages after dying in certain rooms?

  • @applekid1516
    @applekid1516 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make a version with commtary because not every trick is clear

  • @GingerLee1
    @GingerLee1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I'm trying to piece together a nice polished super Mario rom hack.... what I would like to know...
    If anyone could give me the right order of operations.....
    Patches.... custom music.....custom sprites.....copy...paste some already made levels...
    Does it matter?
    In which order should it be done?

  • @Luis-kl6nx
    @Luis-kl6nx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are any of these segments humanly possible?
    very cool!!

  • @extremegamers1822
    @extremegamers1822 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the beginning of this video I hear a part of Gradius3 music

  • @mepblep
    @mepblep ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes absolutely no sense and I love it

  • @jacobmccain8082
    @jacobmccain8082 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im so confused. Is there a normal route to this and the tas is just using glitches to slay it, or was this insanity the intention from the jump?

  • @f.n.8540
    @f.n.8540 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do so many pit hacks kill mario forever and force luigi

  • @munozvilladamiguelangelhom5880
    @munozvilladamiguelangelhom5880 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think it´s longer than colon three

  • @ashmantas6824
    @ashmantas6824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can not hear mario's death admission 3:09

  • @Counterfeit13
    @Counterfeit13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hast du mal das Erstellen eines TAS gestreamt oder machst du das mal?

    • @xHF01x
      @xHF01x  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ich hab das genau ein mal gemacht (und zwar für den letzten Boss in Casio Mario World). Ich mach das normalerweise nicht, hauptsächlich weil ich glaube, dass das furchtbar langweilig wäre. Gerade bei einem Hack wie diesem, wo ich auch mal mehrere Stunden an einer Stelle gesessen hab (das Stun-Setup bei 19:55 z.B. hat so 3-4 Stunden gebraucht, bis alles so gepasst hat wie ich's gebraucht hab). Noch schlimmer: Ich müsste dann ja reden, obwohl wirklich überhaupt nix passiert (oder der Stream wär halt komplett stumm lol).
      Vielleicht mach ich das doch irgendwann noch mal, aber im Moment gibts auch keinen Hack, den ich TASen wollen würde.

  • @Dinozuera7
    @Dinozuera7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro, you did a really difficult hack and dacin comes and reads it and it surpasses

  • @GutoBeto
    @GutoBeto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:39 The lic- 😢no

  • @TM_0153
    @TM_0153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the purpose of the pause at 0:54?

    • @xHF01x
      @xHF01x  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mario only interacts with most sprites (including bullet bills) on every 2nd frame. The jump on the bullet bill is frame perfect (otherwise you either hit the spike ceiling or you're too low to still bounce on the bullet bill), so I have to make sure Mario interacts with the bullet bill on the critical frame. The pause achieves that.

  • @AMUGENfan
    @AMUGENfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:20 Song name?

  • @JammyJotato
    @JammyJotato 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is ai