@@VonNeumann1234 thanks. Is that the official classification for any vehicle that explodes unexpectedly eg: Columbia or even a test rocket? Is it only used in space related scenarios or also general aviation?
@@AndyLevy1 It's more like a "term of endeerment" in the space industry fanbase that made it popular. It was aledgedly used in the military way before, some claim the use of "rapid unintentional disassembly" for an exploding misused gun. And for me Kerbal Space Programm carried it out to pop culture. Another claim is, it was used for an exploding Saturn V Stage on a teststand in the 60s.
I KNEW IT!!!! I knew you would hear the exhaust of the second stage from the interstage at separation. It's bring your own atmosphere!!! I bugged Elon 50 times on twitter for audio from Falcon 9. W0000 rocketlab!!!
Static fire was successful. SN8 on track for first altitude flight next week. Elon says there’s a 1/3 chance all goes well during the test but that’s why there is SN9 and SN10
It was great to watch that along with Tim. Really intelligent observations and the heart of a true believer. Dude I think you may have forked over one of your nine lives!
@@java4653 On 12/8/2022 Tim Dodd was able to announce that he has been selected as one of the passengers aboard Maezawa's Dear Moon mission using Starship. Tim's gushing enthusiasm for that first manned Starship flight is equally reflective of a true believer. He'd better hope that he has lots of lives left because it's rocket science, hard, and lots can go wrong. But he'll be among the first. Titan submersible builder and Oceangate founder Stockton Rush described his company as the SpaceX of the deep. While I have vastly more confidence in the engineering prowess of SpaceX, I think I'd pass on being one of the first passengers.
🚀 I Love how SpaceX threw you all off by doing that Static fire at that moment. Not one of you SpaceX Hosts were ready for that. I checked every LIVE Link and EVERYBODY was caught off Guard. It was billiant, As if "Elon" was sending a Message to Everyone, "Expect the Unexpected", I Run this Show, Beeeaches❗ 🤣😂🤣 I Love this Crap❗
I was the one who asked about will space x stop launching falcon 9 and falcon heavy after starship flies. I just wanted to thank for clearing up some confusion it was something that bothered me because i didnt want to see one of my favorite rockets stop flying so soon especially with the commercial crew flights being so recent. I know I probably sound dumb but I'm just a kid who has a big dream to look to. I watch your videos all the time because it just inspires me to look to my future. Thank you Wow this turned out to be... Emotional...
I mean, it is just that once you have a fully reusable system, you won't win a lot by using a partially reusable system. There will be a period where both interlap as new starships get made and more and more get used, but eventually starship will have to step into both falcon 9 and falcon heavy's job. After all, starship is suposed to be a jab at creating an universal space transportation design, something that "kind of works" no matter what task you ask of it.
@egg I wouldn't call it completely normal, or not an issue. It's still pretty scary to have basically high energy chunks of rock flying around under a rocket and near GSE. It may not be unheard of, but it's never a good think when the martyte starts to degrade while you're on the pad. And I believe it's cabling of the rocket itself under the skirt and GSE that needed protection, not on the Raptor engine itself. The sudden loss of avionics control caused a hard, bad shutdown.
The stuff flying up is marmyte. Normally it is diverted into channels out to the side, but since starship is on a flatbase it just flies straight up. Spacex aledgedly added “marmyte” protection to the engines
@egg Well yes, they should probably make the pad more robust as in that the martyte doesn't get destroyed every time and protect the GSE some more. But I do understand SpaceX’s reasoning to take as few measurements as possible to mitigate these potential problems, since a Mars landing for instance will have to face even more unprepared landing conditions. Starship (and SH) will just have to be robust enough to handle it.
When Starship is running like a Yellow Cab, a camera cage running a top to bottom rotating inspection of the hull, fins, tiles would be extremely helpful for turn around times. Spit balling here.
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They do extended test fires for the raptor engines (unmounted) but I don't think the SN8 hold down clamps can take more than a second or two of full thrust.
Also the exhaust and plume-turbulence itself physically messes with the mike. This is why wind-coverings are put on microphones outdoors. We don't hear the wind, per se. We hear the microphone as the wind strikes against the housing.
You were not alone in thinking this iteration of starship was about to become a giant, pyrotechnically impressive disappointment. Kind of like a reverse analogy for a sweet and sour sauce of emotions because the surge of disappointment and frustration was negated by intense relief occurring only a little bit slower but being much more welcome. A lack of any countdown or timeline across the bottom of the screen left us with no warning and I think anticipation for a worst case scenario is semi-instinctive when something like that catches us unawares. This is probably because pessimism is rarely disappointing and we all like to be not only right but to back a winning team. Consequently we tend to adopt a progressively stronger if ultimately only mildly fatalistic attitude after a string of tests have been less than successful according to our expectations. But as you said Elon Musk and his team are daring to work outside established parameters and tests in that realm are not consistently failures because ways to progress are so often gained from them. When ultimately rewarded by progress setbacks and frustrations are merely expensive ways of learning how not to do something and the alternative to daring to try is excessive conservatism. The consequences of that are exemplified by how absurd levels of obstructive 'can't do' attitudes seriously hindered men of genius in Britain from a time prior to WWII virtually until now, particularly at bureaucratic levels. Sir Frank Whittle, R. J. Mitchell, Barnes Wallis and Sir Stanley Hooker are but a few examples of men who forged ahead against conservative obstructionism and essentially saved Britain from itself by doing so. But they too paid a high price for a relatively small measure of gratitude or recognition. I recently watched a documentary on TH-cam about development for the Lightning which was the first English supersonic fighter. It illustrated how, despite the harsh lessons of WWII, restraint exerted by conservative thinking kept English research and development for supersonic aircraft lagging behind the United States and Russia by at least a decade. How fortunate that despite it we still have visionaries like Elon Musk who are prepared to stake everything on defying influences still steadily creating an increasingly regimented and over regulated world despite the disadvantages.
Thank you for another grat stream. Too bad those things happen at a weird time for EU customers. And I think that SpaceX would be really awesome if they would put a large clock on the side there that would announce (for this view angle) the last minute before something interesting happens.
Will longer take off and landing legs help avoid some of the debris? Maybe these legs can have more than one function like maybe some steering and air braking during landing ?
I have a fun merch idea you might like but I'm not sure, every time I see your vids I automatically read you name as 'Everyday Astro-nut' because you're not an astronaut but you are nuts about space lol So you could have everyday above a but (the type that screws on a bolt) with 'Astro' written or stamped into it? lol
Hey Tim, Do you think you could revisit the issue of Abort Systems with the recent failure of SN8 on landing? An abort system would have likely saved the lives of the hypothetical crew aboard SN8. And we can ask "How many Falcon-9 landings would have been 'Survivable' by human crew? Until now, we've only had vertical liftoff to worry about but now with landings being far more dangerous than liftoff, couldn't you revisit the concept in a new video? Perhaps even examine the concept of jettisoning the crew capsule as standard practice after re-entry and parachuting the crew safely some distance from the landing stage. Your previous video about abort systems doesn't take into account the danger of vertical landing which is a very new concept and has no statistical data to point to. Strangely, it's difficult to find statistics online for Falcon-9 landing crashes vs. success.. Also, just for extra thought for another video, consider every event that has ever caused a launch abort or delay while on the launchpad - and consider how many of them could be corrected when launching from the moon and how many would leave a stranded crew on the Lunar surface.
Same thing with the launch, makes the system much more reliable through many launches If we're so conservative like that, I'm shocked as to why there's no abort system for reentry. I mean, it's just as dangerous right?
Hi, Tim. I have not heard of any, but wouldn't it be prudent to run such a monster though a windtunnel (or a vertical 'wind-trampoline') before sending it to a freefall from 15km? I have many times wondered about the untried 'flaps' (or elonerons, as you call them... :-D ) and their sturdiness and aerodynamic behaviour - a windtunnel would give an idea about their behaviour in supersonic/transsonic/subsonic environments. But I confess that I have never seen a single youtube video, or technical paper on windtunnel/windtrampoline testing of this new spacecraft... Do you have knowledge of any such tests? Thx
Wind tunnel testing is one reason SpaceX changed from 3 ailerons to 2 top & 2 bottom. Most of that testing involves scale models, because there are very few wind tunnels that can accommodate something this large.
More ceramic chips blown away... :-\ Edit: It seems to be very problematic if they have to fix the concrete pad every time,..., maybe the static fires are just to test the issue. Imagine the damage with full force 3 engines breathing fire. Imagine if the rocket is supposed to land on that same spot after the 15 hop 😲
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Man, if only we split the timeline up for you so you know exactly when the (unknown time to us) test occurred, or even better posted just the test in 4K slow motion on a separate 2 minute video... oh wait 🤔
Current design Starship can only get to orbit. That's it. It cannot fly to Mars and even to Moon. For Mars starship doesn't have Full G design for astronauts to stay healthy. For Moon it doesn't have mid size installed engines to land on Moon. So far Starship doesn't solve the landing leg design for landing on unprepared surfaces of Moon or Mars. The name "Starship" its not implemented into the current design at all. They should name it Orbiter or something like that. That's it. For the Mars Elon need to build different type of Rocket.( rotating Von Braun like for Full G ) Current design Starship will never fly to Mars with people on board. That's the logic.
40:25 is the static fire. I love how Tim got a mini heart attack thinking it blew up for a second (I did to)
Thank you!
Also “I’m Tim Dodd the everyday astronaut getting trolled everyday by everyday people” lol that was a good
I skipped up to around there I'm watching sort of listening to tim and then I hear tim yell oh no and I had to rewind because I wasn't focusing lol
firing around 40:20
hehe Elon and his weed
Thanks!
@Sfs rocket lab Fascinating, never heard of him. The picture is the character "Sakamoto" from an anime called "Nichijou" ;-)
@Sfs rocket lab Sure, I googled him, one channel of his indeed seems to use the same character as a profile pic.
Ah Sakamoto Sama, thank heavens for that red scarf ay? :)
The last 15 seconds were glorious. Thanks Tim!
OH NO!! OOOH....THATS
(Tim proceeds to have a heart attack thinking it was a RUD)
what is a RUD?
@@AndyLevy1 rapid unscheduled disassembly
@@VonNeumann1234 thanks.
Is that the official classification for any vehicle that explodes unexpectedly eg: Columbia or even a test rocket? Is it only used in space related scenarios or also general aviation?
@@AndyLevy1 It's more like a "term of endeerment" in the space industry fanbase that made it popular. It was aledgedly used in the military way before, some claim the use of "rapid unintentional disassembly" for an exploding misused gun. And for me Kerbal Space Programm carried it out to pop culture. Another claim is, it was used for an exploding Saturn V Stage on a teststand in the 60s.
that vehicle is absolutely lovely in that golden sunlight
I KNEW IT!!!! I knew you would hear the exhaust of the second stage from the interstage at separation. It's bring your own atmosphere!!! I bugged Elon 50 times on twitter for audio from Falcon 9. W0000 rocketlab!!!
@@ffhgxxhjdz rocket exhaust hitting the audio equipment transmits sounds
That stage separation was some Sci Fi "Expanse" worthy footage! Loved the Sound Blast as the engine ignited!
1:45:03
Best 15 seconds of my life
Static fire was successful. SN8 on track for first altitude flight next week.
Elon says there’s a 1/3 chance all goes well during the test but that’s why there is SN9 and SN10
Best 15 seconds of my life
so nice of you to tag the time line... mostly nothing | static fire | mostly nothing
It was great to watch that along with Tim. Really intelligent observations and the heart of a true believer. Dude I think you may have forked over one of your nine lives!
Just one? My guess is that Tim is Elons long lost younger brother. :D
LOL,: "Really intelligent observations". The MuskCult is so lamely delusional.
@@java4653 On 12/8/2022 Tim Dodd was able to announce that he has been selected as one of the passengers aboard Maezawa's Dear Moon mission using Starship. Tim's gushing enthusiasm for that first manned Starship flight is equally reflective of a true believer. He'd better hope that he has lots of lives left because it's rocket science, hard, and lots can go wrong. But he'll be among the first. Titan submersible builder and Oceangate founder Stockton Rush described his company as the SpaceX of the deep. While I have vastly more confidence in the engineering prowess of SpaceX, I think I'd pass on being one of the first passengers.
1:25:32 A cool shot of the pay-load Separation death camera~
Where can I find it on TH-cam?
I can't believe you got hit with the Mike Hunt troll 🤣
Lol when was that?
@@edwinrobert7192 at the very end
not to mention the sildenafil powered flaps lol
1:50 hahahaha
@@edwinrobert7192 1:45:05
those marks in the videos are super nice for this type of content! thanks YT
🚀 I Love how SpaceX threw you all off by doing that Static fire at that moment. Not one of you SpaceX Hosts were ready for that. I checked every LIVE Link and EVERYBODY was caught off Guard. It was billiant, As if "Elon" was sending a Message to Everyone, "Expect the Unexpected", I Run this Show, Beeeaches❗ 🤣😂🤣 I Love this Crap❗
I was the one who asked about will space x stop launching falcon 9 and falcon heavy after starship flies.
I just wanted to thank for clearing up some confusion it was something that bothered me because i didnt want to see one of my favorite rockets stop flying so soon especially with the commercial crew flights being so recent. I know I probably sound dumb but I'm just a kid who has a big dream to look to. I watch your videos all the time because it just inspires me to look to my future. Thank you
Wow this turned out to be... Emotional...
I mean, it is just that once you have a fully reusable system, you won't win a lot by using a partially reusable system. There will be a period where both interlap as new starships get made and more and more get used, but eventually starship will have to step into both falcon 9 and falcon heavy's job. After all, starship is suposed to be a jab at creating an universal space transportation design, something that "kind of works" no matter what task you ask of it.
Wow, sparky again. hopefully that didn't damage it.
@@joshuatse5574 Awesome!
I think that was more residual debree on the pad than anything else. Seemed minimal and only right at the start.
@egg I wouldn't call it completely normal, or not an issue. It's still pretty scary to have basically high energy chunks of rock flying around under a rocket and near GSE.
It may not be unheard of, but it's never a good think when the martyte starts to degrade while you're on the pad.
And I believe it's cabling of the rocket itself under the skirt and GSE that needed protection, not on the Raptor engine itself. The sudden loss of avionics control caused a hard, bad shutdown.
The stuff flying up is marmyte. Normally it is diverted into channels out to the side, but since starship is on a flatbase it just flies straight up. Spacex aledgedly added “marmyte” protection to the engines
@egg Well yes, they should probably make the pad more robust as in that the martyte doesn't get destroyed every time and protect the GSE some more. But I do understand SpaceX’s reasoning to take as few measurements as possible to mitigate these potential problems, since a Mars landing for instance will have to face even more unprepared landing conditions. Starship (and SH) will just have to be robust enough to handle it.
best time stamps of any video.
When Starship is running like a Yellow Cab, a camera cage running a top to bottom rotating inspection of the hull, fins, tiles would be extremely helpful for turn around times. Spit balling here.
Dude! Good job on the quiet intro! Saved my life.
Hey Tim. My name is Emillio i am 68 retired Airline pilot. I am headed to Boca next month for the winter. Me and my 4 dogs in my SprinterVan. 85 degrees hete we come.
Can't wait to watch the skydive grain silo
If they are going to fly this thing up to 15 km, I would like to see them do a static fire that lasts more than a couple of seconds.
They do extended test fires for the raptor engines (unmounted) but I don't think the SN8 hold down clamps can take more than a second or two of full thrust.
I'm so excited when I see this!
hahaha that was so funny, I'm glad you now know what the "Mike" reference was, and wow you kept saying it over and over rofl.
Please add 01:23:28 in your description for Rocket Lab video.
This section is great.
20th Century technology makes me feel so nostalgic.
Welding on the rocket appears to be much smoother than previous Starships.. Perhaps aerodynamics is a factor at test speeds and attitudes.
The plume is a mass ejection, the sound can travel through it as a medium. While in the plume you would temporarily not be in a vacuum.
Also the exhaust and plume-turbulence itself physically messes with the mike. This is why wind-coverings are put on microphones outdoors. We don't hear the wind, per se. We hear the microphone as the wind strikes against the housing.
Great stuff as always !
Love your timestamp labels, haha.
Can you imagine that gargantuan rocket launching from an offshore oil rig!
No, actually. I think it will have to be a far more substantial structure.
Who knows.. 20-30 years from now we might also see a SpaceX Sea Dragon being made or going through tests like this.
How much fuel is added for a static fire vs hop? I understand it has some venting after a static fire.
I also can't wait for Mr Mike Hunt to fly on Super Heavy!
I have a module to answer but this is more important
Same pre hahahaha
40:26
You were not alone in thinking this iteration of starship was about to become a giant, pyrotechnically impressive disappointment.
Kind of like a reverse analogy for a sweet and sour sauce of emotions because the surge of disappointment and frustration was negated by intense relief occurring only a little bit slower but being much more welcome.
A lack of any countdown or timeline across the bottom of the screen left us with no warning and
I think anticipation for a worst case scenario is semi-instinctive when something like that catches us unawares.
This is probably because pessimism is rarely disappointing and we all like to be not only right but to back a winning team.
Consequently we tend to adopt a progressively stronger if ultimately only mildly fatalistic attitude after a string of tests have been less than successful according to our expectations.
But as you said Elon Musk and his team are daring to work outside established parameters and tests in that realm are not consistently failures because ways to progress are so often gained from them.
When ultimately rewarded by progress setbacks and frustrations are merely expensive ways of learning how not to do something and the alternative to daring to try is excessive conservatism.
The consequences of that are exemplified by how absurd levels of obstructive 'can't do' attitudes seriously hindered men of genius in Britain from a time prior to WWII virtually until now, particularly at bureaucratic levels.
Sir Frank Whittle, R. J. Mitchell, Barnes Wallis and Sir Stanley Hooker are but a few examples of men who forged ahead against conservative obstructionism and essentially saved Britain from itself by doing so.
But they too paid a high price for a relatively small measure of gratitude or recognition.
I recently watched a documentary on TH-cam about development for the Lightning which was the first English supersonic fighter.
It illustrated how, despite the harsh lessons of WWII, restraint exerted by conservative thinking kept English research and development for supersonic aircraft lagging behind the United States and Russia by at least a decade.
How fortunate that despite it we still have visionaries like Elon Musk who are prepared to stake everything on defying influences still steadily creating an increasingly regimented and over regulated world despite the disadvantages.
Agreed, the thing I dislike about conservatism. Expect failure and that's what you'll get.
That documentary about the lightning sounds interesting. Can you post the link, or give its full title?
IT HASNT BLOWN UP YET ELON
I can not wait to see this rocket ship fly gotta love SpaceX and elon musk.
Light the candle, already!!
Sun starts setting at around 43:30
I'm full blown dying.
46:30
that slayed me.
I can't see.
Elon is the best. Second richest person in the world, still responding to the little people's questions while they're testing a vehicle.
Thank you for another grat stream. Too bad those things happen at a weird time for EU customers. And I think that SpaceX would be really awesome if they would put a large clock on the side there that would announce (for this view angle) the last minute before something interesting happens.
Yes
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@joshua_s should go to Super Chat jail for that troll. Poor Tim. 😳
Why didn't they build a proper flame trench?
There is not gonna be a flame trench when they are launching from other surfaces so they need to design it to work without.
If they fire for a bit longer they'll have one already!
Water table there is likely way too high to dig one, and I guess they decided building one up like at Kennedy would take too long
was this like the pre-burner test they ran, just before last month's full on burns?
I missed it, dang it.
Technically, even my pale butt flies when my thrust to weight ratio goes over 1
Yes, but ignition is a bummer!
why don't they just use a flame trench instead of blowing up the concrete every test or launch?
Snuck That One In.. Surprise... Did They Shatter the Cement Again..?
Will longer take off and landing legs help avoid some of the debris? Maybe these legs can have more than one function like maybe some steering and air braking during landing ?
You definitely need to get your old high altitude flight suit hanging or on a manaquin!
That looks like a computer shut down the test before something bad was about to happen.
Too short, probably another 'emergency don't let the whole thing explode' abort.
Tirm Derdd said dirt berm. :)
When is the 15K?!!!!!!
On track for next week. I’m not sure on date 😅
Im verry nervous about that hop its like those games where you. Start all over again when you fail
I have a fun merch idea you might like but I'm not sure, every time I see your vids I automatically read you name as 'Everyday Astro-nut' because you're not an astronaut but you are nuts about space lol
So you could have everyday above a but (the type that screws on a bolt) with 'Astro' written or stamped into it? lol
Hey Tim, Do you think you could revisit the issue of Abort Systems with the recent failure of SN8 on landing? An abort system would have likely saved the lives of the hypothetical crew aboard SN8. And we can ask "How many Falcon-9 landings would have been 'Survivable' by human crew?
Until now, we've only had vertical liftoff to worry about but now with landings being far more dangerous than liftoff, couldn't you revisit the concept in a new video?
Perhaps even examine the concept of jettisoning the crew capsule as standard practice after re-entry and parachuting the crew safely some distance from the landing stage.
Your previous video about abort systems doesn't take into account the danger of vertical landing which is a very new concept and has no statistical data to point to. Strangely, it's difficult to find statistics online for Falcon-9 landing crashes vs. success..
Also, just for extra thought for another video, consider every event that has ever caused a launch abort or delay while on the launchpad - and consider how many of them could be corrected when launching from the moon and how many would leave a stranded crew on the Lunar surface.
Same thing with the launch, makes the system much more reliable through many launches
If we're so conservative like that, I'm shocked as to why there's no abort system for reentry. I mean, it's just as dangerous right?
this was a three-engine static fire, right?
You said 40min minimum delay mars communication. Sounds rich🤔 you meant maximum?
so you can abort after fire? i though once it went off it were 50/50 live or die
Please lets buy Tim a metronome
bout' a 2 second static fire
Hi, Tim.
I have not heard of any, but wouldn't it be prudent to run such a monster though a windtunnel (or a vertical 'wind-trampoline') before sending it to a freefall from 15km? I have many times wondered about the untried 'flaps' (or elonerons, as you call them... :-D ) and their sturdiness and aerodynamic behaviour - a windtunnel would give an idea about their behaviour in supersonic/transsonic/subsonic environments.
But I confess that I have never seen a single youtube video, or technical paper on windtunnel/windtrampoline testing of this new spacecraft...
Do you have knowledge of any such tests?
Thx
Wind tunnel testing is one reason SpaceX changed from 3 ailerons to 2 top & 2 bottom. Most of that testing involves scale models, because there are very few wind tunnels that can accommodate something this large.
lol, thisvideo title should be "mostly nothing" :p
Cam 4 commentary was awful for this SF . I'm sticking with this guy from now on .
still saw hot concrete flying about
I think even when you are trolled there is still lots of love there. May be naughty but fun.
136 flat-earthers didn't like this video.
Too short. Prepare for another "Incomplete."
phase 1. start, phase 2. survive lol.
Is BFR and starship the same vehicle with a name change?
Yup!!!
More ceramic chips blown away... :-\
Edit: It seems to be very problematic if they have to fix the concrete pad every time,..., maybe the static fires are just to test the issue.
Imagine the damage with full force 3 engines breathing fire. Imagine if the rocket is supposed to land on that same spot after the 15 hop 😲
You've titled ur video Mostly Nothing for more than 99% of the video and u still have 250K views.
Isn't that pretty ? :)
Fan
STEEL PLATES 1'' THICK ON LAUNCH PAD ? WHY NOT ?
That was an A norminaly eh?
Wtf was the ending about?
Is English your first language and are you older than 12? If the answer is no to either. I might not be in a position to explain it very easily.
What's wrong with focus?
That Sucked! That Tin Can will never be used more than once! Come on folks!
Please can someone explain to me simply what i saw? 🤯
Fire
Did it not lift
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"What should I ask Elon? What should I ask Elon?" Get's suggestions: "Why do you all tell me what to ask Elon?!" bruh.... swim easy.
A little bit of clickbait
1hr50? WTF? Pass 👎
Man, if only we split the timeline up for you so you know exactly when the (unknown time to us) test occurred, or even better posted just the test in 4K slow motion on a separate 2 minute video... oh wait 🤔
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Current design Starship can only get to orbit. That's it. It cannot fly to Mars and even to Moon. For Mars starship doesn't have Full G design for astronauts to stay healthy. For Moon it doesn't have mid size installed engines to land on Moon. So far Starship doesn't solve the landing leg design for landing on unprepared surfaces of Moon or Mars. The name "Starship" its not implemented into the current design at all. They should name it Orbiter or something like that. That's it. For the Mars Elon need to build different type of Rocket.( rotating Von Braun like for Full G ) Current design Starship will never fly to Mars with people on board. That's the logic.
NASA Got Defunded When NASA TV Started Charging, Sad?!?
Everyday Poopstronaut
boring. nothing happing
Thanks To Dominion, Technology Looks Like A Joke Right Now?
Obama To NASA: "Let The Media Company Pay For It"?!?