Personally I don't like perfect block or SYG, I find it better to max physical resistance, Brian Grant has a good video on the effectiveness of physical resistance, it's better than you think. I also don't agree with maxing out pierce, I think courage is a much better mastery to max.
Say what you want about Greater Strength, when I had it, fights didn't take nearly as long as they do without it. A fight that now takes me a minute to finish used to take fifteen seconds with Greater Strength maxed.
I just unlocked glass cannon yesterday, I’m still experimenting with my setup. I’m level 43 or 44 so still have some more points to unlock I found this helpful. Thanks for the info.
Thanks so much man I followed ur tips and my pi ratings went through the roof thanks so much man u r a awsome person bro thanks so much for all your amazing videos and advice in general..
I would love to know if your thought on deep wounds have changed now that sentinels are swarming AQ. Outside of blade and possibly AA i don’t know if people really bring bleed champs on aw offense either so do you still recommend max deep wounds?? Would be a good video!!!
Interesting setup, especially w MD and Assassin, totally agree w DW but prefer and will continue to keep LC and DE, only major drawback is my inability to use Hawkeye whom I love. Great Vid!
I agree so much with your MaSTERY SET UP, I CHANGE MINE OFTEN AND IF I GO FOR ARENA FEATURE, I CHANGE TO SUICIDES IF IM grinding in arena. I have nearly identical on the random game play but I don't have mystic dispersion anymore because I have 4 or 5 when running and u r correct, That just messes me up so I took 1 out of Deep Wounds and I unlocked that last offensive mastery becausee it added 15-170 points as my last mastery added to my team. I took BWclairevoyant over 17k n with boost and class advantage, I was at 23,000 PI
Thank You for this Prof Hoff. Also I don't get why ppl are butt hurt that Prof Hoff mentions other MCOC youtubers. In previous videos Proff Hoff has thanked Dork Lessons or made light of Brian Grant. No one gave him stuff. Shane gets into it with Seatin and just mentions him here and he gets stuff. Such BS.
Prof Hoff, appreciate alot of ur videos & thanks for all the time & energy to help the MCOC community. I'm curious, do u watch Seatins, Dave's & other popular You-Tubers, then just give ur opinion or make a similar video? U seem to refer to their POV & how urs is the same or different. Sincere ?, not trying to be sarcastic or be negative towards u.
Los O that's not the point. For instance you're using a champ that has to hold block to activate an ability and you accidentally get hit. This mastery saves you
You should really get assassin maxed out!! It finishes your opponent off faster! No need for stand your ground no one uses heavy attacks anyways unless you have arcangel! And you should also max out limber!! It’s great for war defense and if you get stun it removes the stun quickly
this is honestly no good advice. you don't think about AW at all. the pierce mastery does nothing since the game changed to flat values. with courage, you have a 20%(!) attack bonus if your champ is below 50% which is both very good for AW offence and defense. furthermore, you fail to explain why assassin and stand your ground are good on that particular level and not higher. then you also have 1 points in pacify and 2 points in petrify which makes no sense whatsoever, pacify 3/3 is one of the most basic masteries to have in any situation. and while the mystic dispersion being bad if too high may be true for scarlet witch, it is almost a benefit for all the other mystic champs and (again) particularly good for AW defence.
so this was the actual numbers I had on my quake 6848, voodoo 6,751 GR 6,672 AA 6,623 Hyperion 6,303 Here are some that u may have ranked now, Medusa 6,984 Mood 6,983 Wasp 6,980 Sparky 6,969 Glaive 6,808 Blade 6,767
Also, any comments on maxing pierce vs. dropping those points into cruelty or assassin, which are arguably better investments? Comments on petrify and pacify; reasons for putting 2 and 1 point in there, respectively? And the points in salve? I get the stepping stones needed to hit WP, but why not just drop salve to 1, drop perfect block and SYG, and use the resistances as stepping stones? I get that they have limited effect, but would still seem better than those other potentially useless masteries. Btw, good call on the 3/5MD
Its not +5% health? it's +0.5%... that is 10x less then what you are thinking it does. Yes obviously if you have good bleed champs like Blade Deep Wounds is good to max... but shouldn't you tell people that they obviously shouldn't waste points on it if they don't have really good bleed champs like Blade/AA/GP? It's just odd the way you do this... as if everyone has your same champs (and the skilled players out there who already do have a lot of champs like you don't need your video). Or do you think someone without a single good Bleed champ should still max Deep Wounds (seems silly but maybe you do just for the PI increase)?
You don't realy get the point of using suicides... It's not to max your pi but to speed up the fight and that works. I can go through all my 4* in 2 hours with suicides, but can't do it without those great suicides. P.S. since I have Ultron I have no more Problem to leave them on for AQ, but before it was a struggle. Additionally a suicide Ultron works better for me than non-suicide Wolverine and taking out Dormammu with Hulk is easier too. Additionally priece is far worse than curage for me and I believe that is so for most of the community
man..stand your ground? useless,i mean..if u still can.t evade those heavy attacks it´s ok, but some ppl out there are gonna take this as advice and this is not a good mastery setup, 2 points in petrify and 1 point in pacify..idk..doesn.t make much sense and most players unlock MD for defense, so 4 out of 5 is ok, and even if someone is playing sw non stop, they will learn to play around the power gain. pierce just 1 point is enough anyways..if you wanna do a grind, just switch to suicides and them switch back after you´re done with the grind, you don´t need to put points in useles masteries just because you want to have a little more pi. for regular milestones grind a normal mastery setup is also good, or just use suicides and switch back. it doesn´t cost much to switch mastries nowadays. this is only my personal opinion you do whatever you want with your masteries, but don´t post the video as "best overall mastery setup", newer players are gonna get confused. peace!
You are wrong. it's a good setup but it's not the best mastery setup. there are better setup than this. do some testing first before misleading people.
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Hey...made some changes to my mastery flow...for the better. Thanks for the tips.
Chris Goll always happy to help.
Personally I don't like perfect block or SYG, I find it better to max physical resistance, Brian Grant has a good video on the effectiveness of physical resistance, it's better than you think. I also don't agree with maxing out pierce, I think courage is a much better mastery to max.
Say what you want about Greater Strength, when I had it, fights didn't take nearly as long as they do without it. A fight that now takes me a minute to finish used to take fifteen seconds with Greater Strength maxed.
I just unlocked glass cannon yesterday, I’m still experimenting with my setup. I’m level 43 or 44 so still have some more points to unlock I found this helpful. Thanks for the info.
Thanks so much man I followed ur tips and my pi ratings went through the roof thanks so much man u r a awsome person bro thanks so much for all your amazing videos and advice in general..
I would love to know if your thought on deep wounds have changed now that sentinels are swarming AQ. Outside of blade and possibly AA i don’t know if people really bring bleed champs on aw offense either so do you still recommend max deep wounds?? Would be a good video!!!
Interesting setup, especially w MD and Assassin, totally agree w DW but prefer and will continue to keep LC and DE, only major drawback is my inability to use Hawkeye whom I love. Great Vid!
For trying to beat story mode, which would be more valuable? Despair or Willpower?
Thanks for the tips
Do you think fury are any good?
O have my 4 ou of 4 to gain some more time with fury
I agree so much with your MaSTERY SET UP, I CHANGE MINE OFTEN AND IF I GO FOR ARENA FEATURE, I CHANGE TO SUICIDES IF IM grinding in arena. I have nearly identical on the random game play but I don't have mystic dispersion anymore because I have 4 or 5 when running and u r correct, That just messes me up so I took 1 out of Deep Wounds and I unlocked that last offensive mastery becausee it added 15-170 points as my last mastery added to my team. I took BWclairevoyant over 17k n with boost and class advantage, I was at 23,000 PI
OMG you're not annoying. I just followed this page.
Thank You for this Prof Hoff. Also I don't get why ppl are butt hurt that Prof Hoff mentions other MCOC youtubers. In previous videos Proff Hoff has thanked Dork Lessons or made light of Brian Grant. No one gave him stuff. Shane gets into it with Seatin and just mentions him here and he gets stuff. Such BS.
STR8 HATERS
Hey Shane, will this setup be as effective in arena scoring as when you have suicide masteries?
Great info.
You mentioned testing and spreadsheets to come up with your perfect setup, but your Assassins is still locked after 2, how did you test it?
Great video as always Shane!
I will definitely use this once i’m at lvl 60 and unlocked all this, i spent a lot of units today redoing my mastery, i got a 300-400 pi increase :)
Great video
Prof Hoff, appreciate alot of ur videos & thanks for all the time & energy to help the MCOC community. I'm curious, do u watch Seatins, Dave's & other popular You-Tubers, then just give ur opinion or make a similar video? U seem to refer to their POV & how urs is the same or different. Sincere ?, not trying to be sarcastic or be negative towards u.
Thank you for sharing 👏🏼
You don't need Stand your ground. No one waits to get heavy hit. Everyone evades heavy attacks so you can use those points elsewhere.
Los O that's not the point. For instance you're using a champ that has to hold block to activate an ability and you accidentally get hit. This mastery saves you
Thanks this was really helpful
Pacify 2, Petrify 1 not mentioned in video?
What’s the best rogue mastery setup?
Why not “Why my masteries are better tan Seatin’s?” In keeping with your last vids.
You should really get assassin maxed out!! It finishes your opponent off faster! No need for stand your ground no one uses heavy attacks anyways unless you have arcangel! And you should also max out limber!! It’s great for war defense and if you get stun it removes the stun quickly
Hey thanks for the feedback!
How many units do it all cost
Thanks for the video bud.
Thanks nice last name mine is the same 😀
gr8 vid
That’s very similar to the mastery setup I’ve been using
Thanks for the info bro hope it will help me
this is honestly no good advice.
you don't think about AW at all.
the pierce mastery does nothing since the game changed to flat values.
with courage, you have a 20%(!) attack bonus if your champ is below 50% which is both very good for AW offence and defense.
furthermore, you fail to explain why assassin and stand your ground are good on that particular level and not higher.
then you also have 1 points in pacify and 2 points in petrify which makes no sense whatsoever, pacify 3/3 is one of the most basic masteries to have in any situation.
and while the mystic dispersion being bad if too high may be true for scarlet witch, it is almost a benefit for all the other mystic champs and (again) particularly good for AW defence.
León courage does not work if u start a fight bellow 50% health
@rajiv so? still a 20% bonus if your champ drops below 50% in a single fight.
(which is most of the aw fights apart from mini bosses and boss)
so this was the actual numbers I had on my quake 6848, voodoo 6,751 GR 6,672 AA 6,623 Hyperion 6,303 Here are some that u may have ranked now, Medusa 6,984 Mood 6,983 Wasp 6,980 Sparky 6,969 Glaive 6,808 Blade 6,767
Short of units for now. Need 7 carbonium core for Assassin mastery
It'll be worth it for sure good luck.
28 million in gold sheesh whats you secret
Thanks bro
@ProfHoff this still valid Chief?!
SYG: Why you getting hit with heavies tho? Otherwise, love the rest of your content bruh. Keep up the good work.
Also, any comments on maxing pierce vs. dropping those points into cruelty or assassin, which are arguably better investments? Comments on petrify and pacify; reasons for putting 2 and 1 point in there, respectively? And the points in salve? I get the stepping stones needed to hit WP, but why not just drop salve to 1, drop perfect block and SYG, and use the resistances as stepping stones? I get that they have limited effect, but would still seem better than those other potentially useless masteries. Btw, good call on the 3/5MD
Its not +5% health? it's +0.5%... that is 10x less then what you are thinking it does.
Yes obviously if you have good bleed champs like Blade Deep Wounds is good to max... but shouldn't you tell people that they obviously shouldn't waste points on it if they don't have really good bleed champs like Blade/AA/GP? It's just odd the way you do this... as if everyone has your same champs (and the skilled players out there who already do have a lot of champs like you don't need your video). Or do you think someone without a single good Bleed champ should still max Deep Wounds (seems silly but maybe you do just for the PI increase)?
You don't realy get the point of using suicides... It's not to max your pi but to speed up the fight and that works. I can go through all my 4* in 2 hours with suicides, but can't do it without those great suicides. P.S. since I have Ultron I have no more Problem to leave them on for AQ, but before it was a struggle. Additionally a suicide Ultron works better for me than non-suicide Wolverine and taking out Dormammu with Hulk is easier too. Additionally priece is far worse than curage for me and I believe that is so for most of the community
Thanks for the info what suicides do you have unlocked on your mastery tree?
recoil 1/3 double edge 3/3, Liquid courage 3/3
thanks shane
we have same mastery...
I'm only at 160k rating XD
Bro why not unfazed ... is it useless
Hard to take serious after seeing salve maxed
Just curious, but how else do you unlock Willpower? You need 15pts in Defense to even Rank Up Willpower.
JMat1986 physical resistance is a better option then salve
that's where u missed up at 2:56 STOP BRING UP HIS NAME just do u lol
Thanks profess your the SHIT
How can you gain more Mastery Points other then leveling up
completing various high level questlines such as story quests give masteries.
Why do you keep on bringing up Seatin's name? If you're a man like you say you are, then stop the name dropping and earn views the legit way.
MrAnalogSoul him saying seatins name in the actual video will have no effect on his views lmao
He is use Seatin for veiws
man..stand your ground? useless,i mean..if u still can.t evade those heavy attacks it´s ok, but some ppl out there are gonna take this as advice and this is not a good mastery setup,
2 points in petrify and 1 point in pacify..idk..doesn.t make much sense and most players unlock MD for defense, so 4 out of 5 is ok, and even if someone is playing sw non stop, they will learn to play around the power gain.
pierce just 1 point is enough
anyways..if you wanna do a grind, just switch to suicides and them switch back after you´re done with the grind, you don´t need to put points in useles masteries just because you want to have a little more pi.
for regular milestones grind a normal mastery setup is also good, or just use suicides and switch back. it doesn´t cost much to switch mastries nowadays.
this is only my personal opinion
you do whatever you want with your masteries, but don´t post the video as "best overall mastery setup",
newer players are gonna get confused.
peace!
You are wrong. it's a good setup but it's not the best mastery setup. there are better setup than this. do some testing first before misleading people.
Absolutly on your side, but give some examples
shane should unlock all his materies first and try it out before giving advice lmao
I have seen better