Too funny - my coach is Cowx certified and this is exactly what he has me working on right now. As a fellow lefty I really appreciate the video and I for one love how technical it is. Understanding the biomechanics of the golf swing is not simple but it can be pretty enlightening.
I hope you guys really hit this series hard! Very informative and interesting to see the contrast between Matt's and Ian's swings. Mr Cowx's knowledge is incredible and he explains things in a way I understand almost 100%. Loved it!!
If this video shows you anything, its that making positive changes in your golf swing initially creates really horrible results, most people give up after about 5 shots not understanding theyre on the correct path to improving. this is a really great series
Id personally like to thank you all for this new series. It gets redundant seeing the gear all the time.thank you for getting into where 99 percent of us need to actually spend money
Very educational. For example, I did not realize that there were distinct golf swing "patterns." Interesting to have this explained while comparing/contrasting Ian and Matt's lessons/goals/objectives. Love that this channel is always a new source of learning. This is well beyond the litany of tips/tricks found in other places. Really helps me appreciate what good golf coaches know and how they manage to communicate these concepts to students. Can't wait to see more.
Love the series! My irons are the worst part of my game and my goal is to change that. My swing is hybrid of both your swings so this is a huge help to understand the iron swing. Couldn’t have come at a better time. My dad has a simulator and now I have some understanding of the iron swing and I can work on becoming a better iron player! Cheers fellas!
Great series and following up on the work w/ LC. The description of the setup - "in ski boots" - and the feeling in shoulder are great things to call out. You would think these are almost incorrect feels if you were doing this on your own.
Can’t wait to see who next year’s instructor will be. Given up on Larry, Tyler, Gareth, Martin. As mentioned already used Scott before so I give this 6 months.
I agree but life gets in the way sometimes and maybe they are just doing that for content too. And I don't mind if it's the case. it's a win win for us. ;)
Guys. I love this. This makes so much sense. Everyone is different. I’d love to have a way to learn from this guy. I’m in the states. Please let me know. I’m working on the basics during the winter. LOVE THIS. Thank you for amazing content. I deal with a left wrist issue (right handed) I’ll be reaching out to him.
I have been working on my trail elbow position almost identical to Matt's in this video. How the body moves and the "radius" helps explain this. I also found it interesting Matt's strike location was towards the heel as I am now finding my miss in that area. Where before it was always toe side. Thanks for the series guys.
Last few weeks with a sore wrist my entire game has gone out of wack. Driver is a 2 way miss. irons sometimes get shanked or hooked, wedges are generally good short game and putting hit and miss. Rounds bounce from 79 to 90 on a regular. I want in the next 6 months that 79 is a normal score for me,. Will work on fixing everything to get there and get fitted too.
I’ve been working on shot shaping on my own for pleasure. I find I can control a fade well, even hit a high slice with my driver on command. But drawing has been really hard. It’s interesting because my miss is a pull, especially on slice fixing tees ( A lot of the tees I play put the ball above my feet). I was just in my kitchen watching this, and in trying the guidance of the lesson I found a feel for maybe a similar swing to the goal of the teacher. I found keeping my arms close, especially my trail arm, created a more comfortable and fluid path. I’ve always had powerful hips from dancing as a kid, and this unlocked that I felt. Also, just doing phantom swings, I felt the ability to manipulate the path in all ways in relation to shot shaping. I even tried wacky swings, and I felt in control the whole swing. I love how the golf swing feels. Now I love it even more. Let’s take it out on the course!
@TXG, I might have missed this with Ian’s lesson, but in terms of Matt’s swing, would you be keeping it “tight” with the driver as well? Same elbow positioning etc etc?
Would really like to have this kind of knowledge around here! May be difficult to follow for beginners… but for going further from a better than average golfer… you have to understand what you have to do to transform it to a good feeling… good work!
I like the way Scott teaches. Being technical myself, I like the detail. I really struggle with my swing path which significantly impacts my face control. More videos like these please 🙏🏽
This just goes to show, different strokes for different folks. I don’t jive with this approach or the jargon, but this is all stuff I am learning and working on. It is so important to find someone that can “talk” to you.
Great video! This is exactly what I've been working on with my swing and have already started to see improvements in FIRs and GIRs without loss in distance.
I'm loving these free lessons from one of the best 😁. The detail is awesome. I've already tried the pattern and drill Scott gave Ian, and made some useful observations. Now I'll try this one and see which seems to be more suited to my tendencies. I'd love to know what the other 11 patterns are 😉.
That seemed to cause too much spine tilt for me. I almost think I'd be better with the lead ear to the ball (or lead shoulder down & left) to start the downswing.
Great stuff! Crease of right elbow along toe line is something I noticed right away is way off in my setup. Hopefully it's something I can incorporate that will unconsciously correct some issues I have in my swing. Thanks for the awesome content.
Here’s an idea…let me add more geometry, positions, restrictions, tension, and thoughts to your preshot routine and your in-swing thoughts. I say nay-nah! Bring me LC!
lmaooo i was thinking the same thing, I couldn't learn in a more different way than this. I could see this style being super useful to certain types of brains though.. not me
One thing I also noticed is if you are forcing your left arm straight throughout the entire swing and pushing your right elbow onto your rib cage you have no choice but for your wrists to load.
Will reducing Matt’s width have an adverse effect on his speed (slow him down). Love the look of the compact swing but all the tv talk is about width? Thanks
Always entertaining guys! Can I suggest a clear summary of both Ian's and Matt's issues at the start before Scott applies the cures or re-swing guides. It gives me an idea of where Scott is aiming (as a result) for both players. (since 2017/2018 I have seen their swings in different situations and didn't want to say what I saw. I just would like to know if I was on the same wave-length....or way off....as to what Scott sees....). Just a suggestion.
Matt's change he's willing to undertake is massive. That level of change is almost a rebuild. And he's doing it. Impressive. He'l be a different player on the golf course by mid year. Big time.
@@SeidinhoDE Lasting change takes time and usually a lot of discomfort. Yet golf is like this, we have a decent swing and game but cuz of endless tech advancements in gear and coaching we feel "compelled" to use it all. In Matt's case perhaps making this big of a change leads to a more consistent scoring game cuz perhaps he doesn't score as well as he should with his current swing/game. That's all I can think of. Tweaking for the sake of tweaking is what happens when surrounded by endless options and gear/coaching offers.
I've actually tried this pattern before and it was amazing for iron and wedge play but it didn't feel powerful because you can't take the trail arm too far away from the ribs. I couldn't bring it to my driver due to that.
Hi, a very good lesson. Thank you very much! Maybe you/someone here below, could give me som help/advice. I'm right handed and every pro I've met said that I should swing the club from the right - due to a stronger trail arm/hand. When playing tennis I hit a double back hand. I also bat from the left when playing baseball, which is my "natural side". I can play golf from both right and left - my right driver is (more) inconsistent though... Which swing journey do you think would be the best for me?
It feels like this swing is almost like handle dragging the club to contact (ie holding off the release), hence why you probably have to have a stronger grip and more side bend. Probably would end up delofting the club as well. Not sure I subscribe to this swing theory but that’s my opinion
Side bend is not a good position to be in for folks with spinal disc issues. My chiropractor who golfs regularly promotes a more upright posture with more of a rotational arm swing for people like me with prior back surgeries. For me, the golf swing has become much easier, more consistent, and less pressure on my back.
I couldn't find much online beside a few fragments on his social media and interviews/youtube.. I guess you'd have to take his cert course... Which is tempting but I'm not a coach so likely can't justify the cost.. I'm more of a bad golfer/golf geek so I dig the knowledge.
I'm a total beginner, needed to find something to challenge me after having upper spine surgery at the age of 58. Had my first lesson 3 weeks ago and trying to implement what the pro asked me to. I lack speed and am too steep in my backswing, feels like I need the restriction placed on Matts arm but somehow include a freedom to swing faster.
Both of you should try the GEM swing trainer it teaches you the perfect swing pattern through instant feedback ….. bar none best swing trainer I’ve ever seen or used . It’s so simple it’s scary !!!!
This swing proves why keeping your eye on the ball isn't the answer for a topped shot. It is actually not turning your face through it and keeping the right bend. You aren't really even looking at the golf ball when you make contact.
So true! I was studying DJ's swing and others and makes me wonder if it's not why they look ahead more for that reason.. They can't afford to stall their pivot or that pattern will be hook city!
I asked this on Ian's lesson video, but nobody responded. If you aren't one of those people that tends to go inside on back swing then over the top on through swing or vice-versa, then why not go straight to the seatbelt pulling position....then straight out of the seatbelt pulling position? What would be wrong with that?
I am Left handed and at the top of my backswing I noticed my right wrist is always bowed. Unlike most really good players. However, when I point my left elbow crease to the sky it seems to flatten out my right wrist in the backswing. Is this correct?
I would think that depends on your grip... My grip is very weak so I need to really flex the lead wrist ala DJ and I still leave face too open at impact... from what I read, somebody with a strong grip wouldn't be able to (or need) to flex the lead wrist as much. In his setup tip, he mentioned the need to internally rotate lead arm and thus a stronger grip so that's what I need to do..
How can you do remote instruction without me having the $14,000 GCQuad launch monitor?? And, even if I had a lower cost personal launch monitor, I don't have the room for any kind of simulator screen & mat.
So many thoughts and feels before a single swing is taken. It’s a golf swing (an athletic movement) not a dissertation on golf mechanics. I could never take a lesson like this.
I tend to prefer technical.....if it is truly grounded in something real. I'm not sure how the human body swinging a stick can be truly grounded like that except trying to emulate those that do it really well. I'm very curious though.
Yeah.. been following his stuff on Be-better-golf channel but easier is not always better.. depends on student I guess. I think assuming they are the same pattern one can benefit from selectively stealing feels and thoughts from both...
Couldn’t make it through the whole thing, way too technical for me. Larry had tips like “use this piece of cardboard under your right foot” - and a 30 second drill.
"ear to the ball" is one of the best ways I have heard that explained.
Too funny - my coach is Cowx certified and this is exactly what he has me working on right now. As a fellow lefty I really appreciate the video and I for one love how technical it is. Understanding the biomechanics of the golf swing is not simple but it can be pretty enlightening.
I hope you guys really hit this series hard! Very informative and interesting to see the contrast between Matt's and Ian's swings. Mr Cowx's knowledge is incredible and he explains things in a way I understand almost 100%. Loved it!!
If this video shows you anything, its that making positive changes in your golf swing initially creates really horrible results, most people give up after about 5 shots not understanding theyre on the correct path to improving. this is a really great series
Id personally like to thank you all for this new series. It gets redundant seeing the gear all the time.thank you for getting into where 99 percent of us need to actually spend money
In contrast, I love his knowledge and watch his videos several times as there are so many nuggets. Please bring back many more times.
Very educational. For example, I did not realize that there were distinct golf swing "patterns." Interesting to have this explained while comparing/contrasting Ian and Matt's lessons/goals/objectives. Love that this channel is always a new source of learning. This is well beyond the litany of tips/tricks found in other places. Really helps me appreciate what good golf coaches know and how they manage to communicate these concepts to students. Can't wait to see more.
Love the series! My irons are the worst part of my game and my goal is to change that. My swing is hybrid of both your swings so this is a huge help to understand the iron swing. Couldn’t have come at a better time. My dad has a simulator and now I have some understanding of the iron swing and I can work on becoming a better iron player! Cheers fellas!
I’m loving that new intro with the word overlay on top of Ian’s introduction.
It looks very clean
I'm sitting here wishing I had either Ian's or Matt's "original" swings!! Great stuff boys.
Great series and following up on the work w/ LC. The description of the setup - "in ski boots" - and the feeling in shoulder are great things to call out. You would think these are almost incorrect feels if you were doing this on your own.
This single video fixed my face-to-path issues! Cannot wait for the next videos in the series
What was wrong with it
Really enjoyed this!
* Trail elbow keeping pronated and closer to body!
*Bicep curl feel to set the club
All 👍
Love to see you guys back together on the channel
Not everyone vibes with this instruction style but I still enjoy his insight and his interpretation of the golf swing
This is very similar to what I’ve been working on for around 2 years now and it’s made a massive difference.
Can’t wait to see who next year’s instructor will be. Given up on Larry, Tyler, Gareth, Martin. As mentioned already used Scott before so I give this 6 months.
I agree but life gets in the way sometimes and maybe they are just doing that for content too. And I don't mind if it's the case. it's a win win for us. ;)
Love the trail arm “bicep curl” feel
Guys. I love this. This makes so much sense. Everyone is different. I’d love to have a way to learn from this guy. I’m in the states. Please let me know. I’m working on the basics during the winter. LOVE THIS. Thank you for amazing content. I deal with a left wrist issue (right handed) I’ll be reaching out to him.
Good lesson! Swing changes that result in positive results are always a good thing.
I have been working on my trail elbow position almost identical to Matt's in this video. How the body moves and the "radius" helps explain this. I also found it interesting Matt's strike location was towards the heel as I am now finding my miss in that area. Where before it was always toe side. Thanks for the series guys.
Last few weeks with a sore wrist my entire game has gone out of wack. Driver is a 2 way miss. irons sometimes get shanked or hooked, wedges are generally good short game and putting hit and miss. Rounds bounce from 79 to 90 on a regular. I want in the next 6 months that 79 is a normal score for me,. Will work on fixing everything to get there and get fitted too.
these sessions are terrific. they scratch so much of where it itches for me. very educational and eye widening. great content. love it.
I applaud this series and thank you for it. This is a great New Years present.
I’ve been working on shot shaping on my own for pleasure. I find I can control a fade well, even hit a high slice with my driver on command. But drawing has been really hard. It’s interesting because my miss is a pull, especially on slice fixing tees ( A lot of the tees I play put the ball above my feet).
I was just in my kitchen watching this, and in trying the guidance of the lesson I found a feel for maybe a similar swing to the goal of the teacher. I found keeping my arms close, especially my trail arm, created a more comfortable and fluid path. I’ve always had powerful hips from dancing as a kid, and this unlocked that I felt. Also, just doing phantom swings, I felt the ability to manipulate the path in all ways in relation to shot shaping. I even tried wacky swings, and I felt in control the whole swing. I love how the golf swing feels. Now I love it even more. Let’s take it out on the course!
@TXG, I might have missed this with Ian’s lesson, but in terms of Matt’s swing, would you be keeping it “tight” with the driver as well? Same elbow positioning etc etc?
Would really like to have this kind of knowledge around here! May be difficult to follow for beginners… but for going further from a better than average golfer… you have to understand what you have to do to transform it to a good feeling… good work!
would never hit the Ball after a Lesson with this guy.
I like the way Scott teaches. Being technical myself, I like the detail. I really struggle with my swing path which significantly impacts my face control. More videos like these please 🙏🏽
Another super lesson with Scott, thanks guys!
This resonates with me and my swing so much. Will definitely be trying to incorporate this
Awesome. I can see why and how so many good players generate effortless power.
This just goes to show, different strokes for different folks. I don’t jive with this approach or the jargon, but this is all stuff I am learning and working on. It is so important to find someone that can “talk” to you.
Amazing series. Scott is a wealth of knowledge on the golf swing. Would love to see this continue.
Great video! This is exactly what I've been working on with my swing and have already started to see improvements in FIRs and GIRs without loss in distance.
I'm loving these free lessons from one of the best 😁. The detail is awesome. I've already tried the pattern and drill Scott gave Ian, and made some useful observations. Now I'll try this one and see which seems to be more suited to my tendencies. I'd love to know what the other 11 patterns are 😉.
Great lesson. Very different swing mechanics compared to LC
Trail ear covering the ball is the “ aha” moment for me
That seemed to cause too much spine tilt for me. I almost think I'd be better with the lead ear to the ball (or lead shoulder down & left) to start the downswing.
This is pure gold, look forward to the next video
This is gold take notes you can hit it a long way and straight doing this with ease. Hidden yardage
This is AWESOME! Thanks so much for putting this up on the channel. I’d love a chance to work with Scott and look forward to more videos. Thx!
Great stuff! Crease of right elbow along toe line is something I noticed right away is way off in my setup. Hopefully it's something I can incorporate that will unconsciously correct some issues I have in my swing. Thanks for the awesome content.
Work on path and then face control is an advise I’ll bring to the range, great content 👍
I learned a lot ! What a great teacher
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing this lesson.
Here’s an idea…let me add more geometry, positions, restrictions, tension, and thoughts to your preshot routine and your in-swing thoughts. I say nay-nah! Bring me LC!
lmaooo i was thinking the same thing, I couldn't learn in a more different way than this. I could see this style being super useful to certain types of brains though.. not me
One thing I also noticed is if you are forcing your left arm straight throughout the entire swing and pushing your right elbow onto your rib cage you have no choice but for your wrists to load.
Don’t change your swing.
What you had is great swing with fluidity…
I could not agree more. He hits a mile and pretty straight. Beautiful move
Will reducing Matt’s width have an adverse effect on his speed (slow him down). Love the look of the compact swing but all the tv talk is about width? Thanks
Love this series and teacher
Always entertaining guys! Can I suggest a clear summary of both Ian's and Matt's issues at the start before Scott applies the cures or re-swing guides. It gives me an idea of where Scott is aiming (as a result) for both players. (since 2017/2018 I have seen their swings in different situations and didn't want to say what I saw. I just would like to know if I was on the same wave-length....or way off....as to what Scott sees....). Just a suggestion.
Matt's change he's willing to undertake is massive. That level of change is almost a rebuild. And he's doing it. Impressive. He'l be a different player on the golf course by mid year. Big time.
Yeah I don’t think he’ll stick with it. It’s a huge change away from a working swing. He didn’t seem comfortable with it.
@@SeidinhoDE maybe why he had a lesson previously and then never went back 🤣
So is he going to make it to the tour? Probably not. So why change? I dont really get it.
@@SeidinhoDE Lasting change takes time and usually a lot of discomfort. Yet golf is like this, we have a decent swing and game but cuz of endless tech advancements in gear and coaching we feel "compelled" to use it all. In Matt's case perhaps making this big of a change leads to a more consistent scoring game cuz perhaps he doesn't score as well as he should with his current swing/game. That's all I can think of. Tweaking for the sake of tweaking is what happens when surrounded by endless options and gear/coaching offers.
This is going to be a good journey 👍🏼
I've actually tried this pattern before and it was amazing for iron and wedge play but it didn't feel powerful because you can't take the trail arm too far away from the ribs. I couldn't bring it to my driver due to that.
After working with Larry, does Scott’s instruction compliment or contradict what you were working on?
Hi, a very good lesson. Thank you very much! Maybe you/someone here below, could give me som help/advice. I'm right handed and every pro I've met said that I should swing the club from the right - due to a stronger trail arm/hand. When playing tennis I hit a double back hand. I also bat from the left when playing baseball, which is my "natural side". I can play golf from both right and left - my right driver is (more) inconsistent though... Which swing journey do you think would be the best for me?
It feels like this swing is almost like handle dragging the club to contact (ie holding off the release), hence why you probably have to have a stronger grip and more side bend. Probably would end up delofting the club as well. Not sure I subscribe to this swing theory but that’s my opinion
Side bend is not a good position to be in for folks with spinal disc issues. My chiropractor who golfs regularly promotes a more upright posture with more of a rotational arm swing for people like me with prior back surgeries. For me, the golf swing has become much easier, more consistent, and less pressure on my back.
He mentions 13 swing patterns at the beginnig of this video. Where can you go to learn more about those 13 patterns?
I couldn't find much online beside a few fragments on his social media and interviews/youtube.. I guess you'd have to take his cert course... Which is tempting but I'm not a coach so likely can't justify the cost.. I'm more of a bad golfer/golf geek so I dig the knowledge.
Am I the only one who doesn't see how this narrow swing improves anything?
Great video!!
The attention to detail from Scott is just mind blowing. It's way over my head and my ability, but that's where these marginal gains come from!
how do you determine which of the bakers dozen patterns are right for you? what are the pros/cons of each?
I'm a total beginner, needed to find something to challenge me after having upper spine surgery at the age of 58. Had my first lesson 3 weeks ago and trying to implement what the pro asked me to.
I lack speed and am too steep in my backswing, feels like I need the restriction placed on Matts arm but somehow include a freedom to swing faster.
Love this!
Love Scott just wish he would put more content on TH-cam 💙
check out his seminar vids on Hackmotion channel.
Both of you should try the GEM swing trainer it teaches you the perfect swing pattern through instant feedback ….. bar none best swing trainer I’ve ever seen or used . It’s so simple it’s scary !!!!
For someone that struggles with scoopy hands, would this type of swing pattern help reduce that?
5 months! Ha, don't be so pessimistic Ian, 3 months to April 6, usually on the course by then!
This is so cool. Great videos. I'm totally engaged
Great video now I know why I shank swing in to out arms extending.
This swing proves why keeping your eye on the ball isn't the answer for a topped shot. It is actually not turning your face through it and keeping the right bend. You aren't really even looking at the golf ball when you make contact.
So true! I was studying DJ's swing and others and makes me wonder if it's not why they look ahead more for that reason.. They can't afford to stall their pivot or that pattern will be hook city!
I loved this. I would love to get in front of this guy! I’ll look him up now I know he does online lessons. Wondering which of the 13 I am!
I asked this on Ian's lesson video, but nobody responded. If you aren't one of those people that tends to go inside on back swing then over the top on through swing or vice-versa, then why not go straight to the seatbelt pulling position....then straight out of the seatbelt pulling position? What would be wrong with that?
that's a good question.. Different release pattern maybe? or that most people can't sustain the rotation required to make it work?
Great content.
I am Left handed and at the top of my backswing I noticed my right wrist is always bowed. Unlike most really good players. However, when I point my left elbow crease to the sky it seems to flatten out my right wrist in the backswing. Is this correct?
I would think that depends on your grip... My grip is very weak so I need to really flex the lead wrist ala DJ and I still leave face too open at impact... from what I read, somebody with a strong grip wouldn't be able to (or need) to flex the lead wrist as much. In his setup tip, he mentioned the need to internally rotate lead arm and thus a stronger grip so that's what I need to do..
Great content guys. Keep it up.
Seems like I'd want to hit my drivers and long clubs based on Ian's swing. And my shorter irons based on Matt's swing.
Really interesting - are you guys aware of anyone in the UK That has the same ethos as Scott? Looking forward to the next one in the series
Scott mentors a friend of mine, his name is Robbie King who teaches at The Carrick on Loch Lomond.
@@clubchampionmedia Thanks TXG...
Give me ALL the patterns! Thank you.
Tell all the patterns and how to find out who we are. Like the technical.
How can you do remote instruction without me having the $14,000 GCQuad launch monitor?? And, even if I had a lower cost personal launch monitor, I don't have the room for any kind of simulator screen & mat.
Basics and essential
Great video!
Watching this for the 3rd time I was struck by some of the similarities of the early Mac O'Grady MORAD golf swing and principles.
What about the 5th element ?
Matt’s swing was already good enough and free of clutter - just practice short game from here on out if lower scores is the objective
So many thoughts and feels before a single swing is taken. It’s a golf swing (an athletic movement) not a dissertation on golf mechanics. I could never take a lesson like this.
I tend to prefer technical.....if it is truly grounded in something real. I'm not sure how the human body swinging a stick can be truly grounded like that except trying to emulate those that do it really well. I'm very curious though.
Milo Lines has a MUCH easier explanation/drill series to produce this pattern.
Yeah.. been following his stuff on Be-better-golf channel but easier is not always better.. depends on student I guess. I think assuming they are the same pattern one can benefit from selectively stealing feels and thoughts from both...
very different from milo
Do the virtual matches!
if I did this same tilt move in the downswing I would absolutely shred my lower back lol
Very interesting, almost exactly what I’m working on with my coach right now
A year later, over to Larry Chung?
very collin morikawa "ish" rotation
Scott is a legend! Lol
In his own mind??
hello
Couldn’t make it through the whole thing, way too technical for me. Larry had tips like “use this piece of cardboard under your right foot” - and a 30 second drill.
The teacher can change their approach to suit the individual. Personally I want to know as much technical info as possible.
Why????? Was the older swing not working?
...talk about minimising swing thoughts...