As a writer of novels with a lot of religious themes (angels, demons and the like) I love using Beelzebub as a demon, especially as Lord of Flies. A lot of inspiration to get (even from misinterpreted things) in the bible.
You consistently put out great content! Love that YWHW's win over Baal is not a foregone conclusion in Elijah. I also find it interesting the purposeful put-down of Baal by just eliminating him from the New Testament. Sounds like someone is jealous.
"Even though everything that they reject about Baal is something that was central to YHWH's divine profile in the earliest years of Israel's existence"-do you have a video explaining this statement in any depth?
So if these Mesopotamian deities were consolidated into one Satan, arraying a trinity against him seems unfair. Or perhaps it takes three gods in one to handle one Satan? Trinitarianism creates an asymmetry between Good and Evil which is aesthetically displeasing.
Hey Dan, maybe you've addressed this elsewhere but why do you say "Adonai" when reading the name Yhwh? With your critical take on Israel/Judah's religious history it seems strange to hear the traditional avoidance of using the original name.
So, could Jesus, speaking Aramaic, have actually have referred not to Beelzebul, but Beelzebub, since he was speaking to Jews in Judea/Palestine who would have known the Hebraic corruption of the name? Furthermore, I was under the impression (based on sermons a few years ago) that in those passages in Matthew and Mark, Jesus was making a sly reference to the plagues in Egypt, specifically the Plague of flies / locusts. As if he was saying, "You think I have the power of the Lord of the Flies? I know who the REAL lord over flies is, and it ain't no devil." (Very rough interpretation.)
Why debate the evolution of the hebrew baal to beelzebub as bad thing? baal is a sheidim. They were the ones dealing with the baal worship in Judaism and in order to really reflect that hatred of baal worship, idols are a sin and he says to hate the sin, beelzebub is a demotion of baal. Like calling azazel a demon when he was an angel before
Beelzebul would be "Baal of Flies" if the first part is understood as the personal name of the deity, but more likely it's being used as the generic noun "Lord," in which case it would be "Lord of Flies."
If there's any merit to the conflict with Elijah, do you think he could've manipulated the situation by dousing the altar with water? Would that have made a lightning strike more likely?
The new testament identifies Satan and Nahash from genesis as the same being; though never articulated in the old testament. Baal-zebul is a title, in this context could refer to a "prince of demons", (Satan is also a title). Even if the original Nahash was mortal and long since died, there would, theoretically, be an heir who would have these titles.
This is such a strange comment. He's speaking within the context of ancient religion, literature, and language, and from a scholarly-not sectarian-perspective to boot. How does that necessitate the outright existence of any deity? Do you think everything anybody has ever written should conform 100% to observable reality? Is there no value in stories or understanding how they're written or change over time?
@@andydonnelly8677 And where in this video does he claim that any of the supernatural entities or narratives mentioned here are real/historical? Because you'll find across many of his videos that he claims quite the opposite.
As a writer of novels with a lot of religious themes (angels, demons and the like) I love using Beelzebub as a demon, especially as Lord of Flies. A lot of inspiration to get (even from misinterpreted things) in the bible.
My man Baal was done dirty 😔
I know everything you said but I could NEVER say it so well.
Has a devil put aside for me for me for me
Thunderbolts and lightning very very frightening
You consistently put out great content! Love that YWHW's win over Baal is not a foregone conclusion in Elijah. I also find it interesting the purposeful put-down of Baal by just eliminating him from the New Testament. Sounds like someone is jealous.
"Even though everything that they reject about Baal is something that was central to YHWH's divine profile in the earliest years of Israel's existence"-do you have a video explaining this statement in any depth?
So if these Mesopotamian deities were consolidated into one Satan, arraying a trinity against him seems unfair. Or perhaps it takes three gods in one to handle one Satan? Trinitarianism creates an asymmetry between Good and Evil which is aesthetically displeasing.
Hey Dan, maybe you've addressed this elsewhere but why do you say "Adonai" when reading the name Yhwh? With your critical take on Israel/Judah's religious history it seems strange to hear the traditional avoidance of using the original name.
It’s a respect thing.
So, could Jesus, speaking Aramaic, have actually have referred not to Beelzebul, but Beelzebub, since he was speaking to Jews in Judea/Palestine who would have known the Hebraic corruption of the name? Furthermore, I was under the impression (based on sermons a few years ago) that in those passages in Matthew and Mark, Jesus was making a sly reference to the plagues in Egypt, specifically the Plague of flies / locusts. As if he was saying, "You think I have the power of the Lord of the Flies? I know who the REAL lord over flies is, and it ain't no devil." (Very rough interpretation.)
Why debate the evolution of the hebrew baal to beelzebub as bad thing? baal is a sheidim.
They were the ones dealing with the baal worship in Judaism and in order to really reflect that hatred of baal worship, idols are a sin and he says to hate the sin, beelzebub is a demotion of baal.
Like calling azazel a demon when he was an angel before
What is the correct translation of the Greek title in English-if it’s not “ball of flies” or “lord of flies?”
Beelzebul would be "Baal of Flies" if the first part is understood as the personal name of the deity, but more likely it's being used as the generic noun "Lord," in which case it would be "Lord of Flies."
If there's any merit to the conflict with Elijah, do you think he could've manipulated the situation by dousing the altar with water? Would that have made a lightning strike more likely?
The new testament identifies Satan and Nahash from genesis as the same being; though never articulated in the old testament. Baal-zebul is a title, in this context could refer to a "prince of demons", (Satan is also a title). Even if the original Nahash was mortal and long since died, there would, theoretically, be an heir who would have these titles.
So basically Jesus' Dad stole Baal's thunder no wonder this guy was not amused
Prove any god exists then you can push this content, until then it's just your fantasy/opinion.
when did he claim any god exists in this video you thoughtless dolt
This is such a strange comment. He's speaking within the context of ancient religion, literature, and language, and from a scholarly-not sectarian-perspective to boot. How does that necessitate the outright existence of any deity? Do you think everything anybody has ever written should conform 100% to observable reality? Is there no value in stories or understanding how they're written or change over time?
@@chansesturm7103 storytelling, stories are great, the truth however is an entirely different proposition.
@@andydonnelly8677 And where in this video does he claim that any of the supernatural entities or narratives mentioned here are real/historical? Because you'll find across many of his videos that he claims quite the opposite.
@@chansesturm7103 ok