Love Candlepin bowling. Played it for years when we lived in NH. It’s all about straight and hard shots. You must rely on pin action because they are 1 foot apart from each other. No Hooking the ball because there is no oil on the lanes.
Being from Central MA, I thought ten pin bowling was so strange until I tried it in my teens. My grandmother (New England candlepin champion) is rolling in her grave knowing how obsessed I am with ten pin bowling now. If you say you're going bowling in NE, you're going candlepin
AJ Chapman, eat your heart out. Packy taking only the 6 pin back was *amazing.* Challenge, Packy: one game of candlepin/duckpin, then do a regular 10 pin game and see how screwed up everything is.
My dad once bowled a 186 in his league. It would have been around 1966, and at an alley in Dorchester. He told me that lots of people started to gather around in the later frames because he was on such a tear.
I’ve bowled duckpins a few times. First time I went was with my friend Jeff who was at that time a PBA member. We had his sons with us and the manager gave us a bit of a tour so we got to see how the pin setters worked.
Really tough game! Wife and I played a few games at the fun center in Laconia NH a few years ago. Averaging over 200 in regular bowling is what I do; averaging 90 in candlepins in much harder!
My brother and I went on vacation to Boston in 2014 and visited a candle pin center... it was an experience lol. If I remember correctly we shot between 78 and 117. WAY HARDER than regular bowling!
You can use the deadwood in the gutters but the ball cannot contact it. If you hit another pin into it then it's fine but if you hit a pin fully in the gutter with the ball first you get 0 pinfall for that roll
I spent most of my youth in a candlepin bowling alley, and I thought this was great. They best I averaged for a season was about 114, which isn’t bad, but the best bowlers average 125 and up. There are great scoring variations between bowling alleys, which occur do to differences in the quality of the rubber side walls, the plate on which the pins stand, and the liveliness of the pins, which wanes over time. Back in the ‘60s and ‘70s, practically everyone in the Boston area bowled in a league, but the sport has fallen on very hard times over the last 30 years. It was great to see you bowling with a small ball!
You need to come down to Guadalupe county Texas, and try the 9 pin bowling we do here. It's a whole different world you need to see it and experience it.
I lived in NH for a couple years and enjoyed the bowling scene up there, I did do 2 candle pin leagues and reg bowling, loved it. but move to Alaska and there is very little going on here.... lol
Man what a weird bowling system! That looks so hard with the pins being so far apart and so narrow. And with tiny balls! The live wood mechanic is awesome to make up for it, and NO OIL?!?! This feels straight out of the 60s XD Love it, that was fun and so unique to watch
There's a duckpin alley in Danbury, Connecticut. Been there a handful of times, most recently around 2003, I think. Duckpin (and watching the PBA on ABC in the 80's) is what started my love for the sport.
2 rules of Candlepin, once a piece of deadwood is in the gutter it's a non-hittable piece, and any pins that you knock down, are not allowed! And number 2, if your ball goes into the gutter and then comes back and knocks down pins, those pins don't count either!
Grew up in MA. Bowled in both Ten & Candle pins leagues on separate nights. Used 5 step approach in both which proved as a hinderance in Candle pin (3 step ideal). Was better than average at both but wasn't great at either. My highest yearly averages were 187 & 105 (best in house was 195ish & 120ish). This was long before reactive balls were invented & a 16lb black hammer ruled.
Grew up outside of Boston. I didn't know about 10-pin bowling until I was a teenager since my hometown only had a Candlepin house. I live in Seattle now and love showing people old candlepin tv show highlights.
Bowling candlepin always messed up my ten pin routines. Nothing organized about "chuck it down the lane". No oil and lumpy balls.....no wonder the thing never really hooks unless you remove speed. Didn't know there was another Candlepin place so close to Boston Bowl.
That was hilarious. I grew up in the Washington, DC area and only bowled duckpins until I moved to Illinois as an adult. I've never seen candlepins except on TH-cam. Definitely hard to master.
I grew up in South Boston and spent many Saturday afternoons at the South Boston Bowlarama in the 1970s. Cost used to be 3 strings and shoes for $1. By the way, if your ball goes in the gutter, any pins you knock down are not scored. My high single was 161 and high triple was 416.
So...i absolutely understand why everyone loves the wood lane sound... but I've always for some reason liked synthetic sound better, but this is also coming from a guy who Hates the smell of commonly liked stuff like fresh cut grass and wood.
Packy, get the dinosaur and roll it down the middle. That was great though, fun to watch, have never seen that before. Fun seeing your sister too, she's funny.
Duck-Duck > Goose! That's what I Like about this Channel, Lots of Variety and Loads of fun. 😄 You should do a Post on the Big-Four Split Challenge in 48 lanes. Once again as always thanks for the great content. 👍
Those weeny balls weren't made to hook so you won't be able hook with any consistency. You have to stand on the left and angle it to the pocket like before the advent of hooking balls. I laughed when Packy nailed the 7 pin on the first shot. I love the way you still have to hand score.
I watch the old matches from decades past on a channel here on YT. Spent time in Mass with my family during the Cuban Missile Crisis so I guess that's where I got my interest. The pros in candle pin have much different mechanics.. typically a three step approach with much more speed. Miss by a fraction and you go from a nine drop or strike to a spread eagle or a half Worcester left or right.
Part of Packy's problem is he's using his normal approach/armswing as a tenpin bowler. In candlepins you're supposed to straighten your arm and muscle the shot - he's so not used to muscling it because he's a tenpin bowler, that he doesn't have enough mustard on his candlepin throws. He's gotta throw it harder and straight, and he's not used to those mechanics at all.
My parents had their first date candlepin bowling in NH. Mom beat Dad. A lot of the lanes are being decommissioned in New England because it's simply too difficult to get spare parts, and that's a shame. Duckpin centers are struggling, too.
@@TheHouseBowling oh it is! I try to throw a string or three when I'm in the US visiting family; it just seems to be harder to find lanes - so many of the houses I bowled at as a kid are gone - Newmarket, Exeter, etc. and Dover is getting rid of theirs.
Growing up in Mass, bowled candlepin since around 5 years old. There's tons of really good candlepin action on TH-cam. Saturday at noon, most of Boston watched a candlepin show on tv for more than 30 years. It's part of Boston sports history. Our own little game. Duckpin was kind of southern Mass, RI, and mid Atlantic. Pins fly in duckpin. Candlepin can be frustrating, right Packy?
Candlepin bowler here. Great to see it getting some coverage. Next time you're around, let me know! Can introduce you to some "pros". We love seeing ten pin guys come try it out!
Candlepin bowling is tough! I've only done it once when I was a junior bowler, a house out here in California had it for a while like 20+ years ago. But yeah, it's definitely more of a northeast coast thing for sure.
Packy finds a way to get 40 mph out of a ball! lol Packy: "Maybe I'll curve it." Ball takes off like a rocket, curving into the gutter. 😀 Got to see this with Keven and some other intrepid PBA stalwarts.
man we had an AMF house in Florida that had 8 lanes of duck pin bowling. Used to love duck pin bowling. Found 3 balls. Still have them. Wish they still had some here
Back in 1974 we went on a family vacation to Kennebunkport Maine and we went candlepin or duckpin bowling. I can't believe it is still around. "That would be your third throw. You cheater."
I think one of my proudest bowling achievements is getting gutter-spare followed by a strike in candlepin, I grew up on candlepin before transitioning to 10 pin, I think my high game was like a 100 or 110, but it has been so long I cannot remember
that was awesome - i have only gone candlepin bowling once it was a lot of fun and really damn hard. you should go duckpin bowling next since you are around the area of candlepin/duckpin . nice win and maddy is awesome
I've only seen candle pin bowling in northeast. Duck pin too for that matter. But people across the country seem to at least have heard of duck pin bowling. I mention candle pin and they look at me like I'm dumb
Like others that have commented I also grew up with candlepin bowling and have fond memories of it. But took up tenpin about 10 years ago and haven't looked back.
I didn't bowl 10 pin until I served in the USAF. All candle pin growing up. I've only done candle pin once in the over 40 since leaving home for bootcamp.
Lived in Framingham, MA for a couple years and did it there. Frustratingly fun as I was looking for a PBA sponsor at the same time. You think you can do it easily...then you wake up. You guys were awesome. Would love to see a doubles match with you and Madison against Maddy and Keven.
Back in the 1980s I had a league at an alley where the balls came back above the lanes. You would always had to time your shot so a ball wouldn't come back during your approach. I don't miss it.
That was interesting?? Sort of? I wonder if anyone has ever shot a perfect candlepin game? Heck yes, let's see what sis can do on a regular lane! I wouldn't suggest challenging Nick and his sister to a brother sister match though, just sayin'. Happy New Year Packy!
I've shot duck pin a time or two, but never candle pin. IMHO duck pin should be slightly easier because the duck pins bounce around more than candle pins. The house I used to bowl at had 10 duck pin lanes and the rest were 10 pin lanes, but they got rid of the duck pins a long time before I started bowling. Also, the duck pin lanes used phenolic pin decks which made it interesting when you bowled 10 pin on those lanes.
Love candlestick bowling. Used to play quite often. Averaged around 110. Harder to do now cause there really isn't any close to Albany NY anymore. Used to play in Lee Mass . Weird thing is I do it righty and bowl 10 pin lefty. Would love to meet up halfway and bowl against you.
The game is all straight line speed and angles, and understanding the physics of how live wood can help or hurt you converting shots. Love it.
you can still curve it, but the adjustments are so subtle it's crazy.
Would love to see the whole house do a candle pin tournament
What I would like to see. Is a Pro candle pin bowler bowl with you. Then have candle pin bowl tin pin with.
Either that or just pro vs pro 1v1!
Love Candlepin bowling. Played it for years when we lived in NH. It’s all about straight and hard shots. You must rely on pin action because they are 1 foot apart from each other. No Hooking the ball because there is no oil on the lanes.
Being from Central MA, I thought ten pin bowling was so strange until I tried it in my teens. My grandmother (New England candlepin champion) is rolling in her grave knowing how obsessed I am with ten pin bowling now. If you say you're going bowling in NE, you're going candlepin
Yessir!!
Agree. I grew up in Southern NH and "bowling" was always candlepin.
It's like throwing the core of a bowling ball 😆 🤣.
Looks so much fun! Great vid, Packy!!!
Ooh! How about having a Candlepin "BANG BANG" challenge with The House vs. Brad & Kyle? 😊
Never played candle pin but it did seem pretty cool with the live wood scenarios. Also I'm glad to see Maddie let you win. Your confidence needed it!
That was awesome Packy, I love watching Candle Pin bowling. Think it would be torture to try it though LOL
I loved every moment of it!
AJ Chapman, eat your heart out. Packy taking only the 6 pin back was *amazing.*
Challenge, Packy: one game of candlepin/duckpin, then do a regular 10 pin game and see how screwed up everything is.
Skipped a lot of school back in the 80s rolling candlepin at academy bowl in bridgewater...judging by the decor you're in my neck of the woods
Bowled candlepin most of my life, love watching the PBA guys try it. Entirely different worlds!
My dad once bowled a 186 in his league. It would have been around 1966, and at an alley in Dorchester. He told me that lots of people started to gather around in the later frames because he was on such a tear.
That's really cool!!! I've always wanted to try candle and duck pin bowling!!! Great video!!
Love that he is still doing the hop step from his two handed approach
I’ve bowled duckpins a few times. First time I went was with my friend Jeff who was at that time a PBA member. We had his sons with us and the manager gave us a bit of a tour so we got to see how the pin setters worked.
Really tough game! Wife and I played a few games at the fun center in Laconia NH a few years ago. Averaging over 200 in regular bowling is what I do; averaging 90 in candlepins in much harder!
My brother and I went on vacation to Boston in 2014 and visited a candle pin center... it was an experience lol. If I remember correctly we shot between 78 and 117. WAY HARDER than regular bowling!
You can use the deadwood in the gutters but the ball cannot contact it. If you hit another pin into it then it's fine but if you hit a pin fully in the gutter with the ball first you get 0 pinfall for that roll
Great stuff Packy...looked pretty tough...Happy Holidays to you and your family!!
I spent most of my youth in a candlepin bowling alley, and I thought this was great. They best I averaged for a season was about 114, which isn’t bad, but the best bowlers average 125 and up. There are great scoring variations between bowling alleys, which occur do to differences in the quality of the rubber side walls, the plate on which the pins stand, and the liveliness of the pins, which wanes over time. Back in the ‘60s and ‘70s, practically everyone in the Boston area bowled in a league, but the sport has fallen on very hard times over the last 30 years. It was great to see you bowling with a small ball!
You need to come down to Guadalupe county Texas, and try the 9 pin bowling we do here. It's a whole different world you need to see it and experience it.
I’ve heard stories!
I lived in NH for a couple years and enjoyed the bowling scene up there, I did do 2 candle pin leagues and reg bowling, loved it. but move to Alaska and there is very little going on here.... lol
Man what a weird bowling system! That looks so hard with the pins being so far apart and so narrow. And with tiny balls! The live wood mechanic is awesome to make up for it, and NO OIL?!?! This feels straight out of the 60s XD Love it, that was fun and so unique to watch
Gotta come try it. So much fun
There's a duckpin alley in Danbury, Connecticut. Been there a handful of times, most recently around 2003, I think. Duckpin (and watching the PBA on ABC in the 80's) is what started my love for the sport.
2 rules of Candlepin, once a piece of deadwood is in the gutter it's a non-hittable piece, and any pins that you knock down, are not allowed! And number 2, if your ball goes into the gutter and then comes back and knocks down pins, those pins don't count either!
Number 2 is for regular bowling aswell
Grew up in MA. Bowled in both Ten & Candle pins leagues on separate nights. Used 5 step approach in both which proved as a hinderance in Candle pin (3 step ideal). Was better than average at both but wasn't great at either. My highest yearly averages were 187 & 105 (best in house was 195ish & 120ish). This was long before reactive balls were invented & a 16lb black hammer ruled.
More candlepin!!!!!
Candlepin is from New Hampshire to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia Canada. You two did pretty well
Candlepin Bowling, was big up here in the North East. Pins that fall are called dead wood and can be used. Great vid
Not going to lie, candlepin looks very difficult.
If I remember correctly, to this day there has been no official record of a perfect game in candlepin
I think high game for candlepin is 245
13:40 the Peanuts theme! I can just imagine Charlie Browne missing the football.
Your sister is hilarious...adorable...and has a nice little mean streak in her. This was a lot of fun to watch.
I grew up playing candlepin and it's so tough. Still fun a much more challenging game.
have never candlepin bowled before but would love to - in astern NYS so really not that far from a house in MA, just need to get there
6:25 I love the Fred Flintstone approach... just missed going to the approach on your tiptoes lol
I’ve always wanted to try candlepins. I grew up with duckpins. I’d also like to see you both try duckpins as a challenge.
I grew up watching candlepin bowling on my parents' satellite dish on NESN. Always wanted to play it, and was always fascinated by it!
Grew up outside of Boston. I didn't know about 10-pin bowling until I was a teenager since my hometown only had a Candlepin house. I live in Seattle now and love showing people old candlepin tv show highlights.
Same. I bowl at Westgate which has both kinds. The best kind of house to bowl at.
@@peteg475 I loved bowling tournaments at Westgate!
Is candlepin bowling basically just a carnival game? Lmao
Bowling candlepin always messed up my ten pin routines. Nothing organized about "chuck it down the lane". No oil and lumpy balls.....no wonder the thing never really hooks unless you remove speed. Didn't know there was another Candlepin place so close to Boston Bowl.
You don't want it to hook. Find other balls if you have a lumpy one. Never seen a lumpy ball
That was hilarious. I grew up in the Washington, DC area and only bowled duckpins until I moved to Illinois as an adult. I've never seen candlepins except on TH-cam. Definitely hard to master.
I grew up in South Boston and spent many Saturday afternoons at the South Boston Bowlarama in the 1970s. Cost used to be 3 strings and shoes for $1. By the way, if your ball goes in the gutter, any pins you knock down are not scored.
My high single was 161 and high triple was 416.
The sound of wood lanes is sooooo much better than synthetic lanes
So...i absolutely understand why everyone loves the wood lane sound... but I've always for some reason liked synthetic sound better, but this is also coming from a guy who Hates the smell of commonly liked stuff like fresh cut grass and wood.
Packy, get the dinosaur and roll it down the middle. That was great though, fun to watch, have never seen that before. Fun seeing your sister too, she's funny.
Duck-Duck > Goose! That's what I Like about this Channel, Lots of Variety and Loads of fun. 😄 You should do a Post on the Big-Four Split Challenge in 48 lanes. Once again as always thanks for the great content. 👍
Those weeny balls weren't made to hook so you won't be able hook with any consistency. You have to stand on the left and angle it to the pocket like before the advent of hooking balls. I laughed when Packy nailed the 7 pin on the first shot. I love the way you still have to hand score.
I watch the old matches from decades past on a channel here on YT. Spent time in Mass with my family during the Cuban Missile Crisis so I guess that's where I got my interest. The pros in candle pin have much different mechanics.. typically a three step approach with much more speed. Miss by a fraction and you go from a nine drop or strike to a spread eagle or a half Worcester left or right.
Part of Packy's problem is he's using his normal approach/armswing as a tenpin bowler. In candlepins you're supposed to straighten your arm and muscle the shot - he's so not used to muscling it because he's a tenpin bowler, that he doesn't have enough mustard on his candlepin throws. He's gotta throw it harder and straight, and he's not used to those mechanics at all.
My parents had their first date candlepin bowling in NH.
Mom beat Dad.
A lot of the lanes are being decommissioned in New England because it's simply too difficult to get spare parts, and that's a shame. Duckpin centers are struggling, too.
I grew up 10 pin bowling. Ended up at KU and Mike Fine
It’s a shame because it was a blaaast to bowl!
@@TheHouseBowling oh it is!
I try to throw a string or three when I'm in the US visiting family; it just seems to be harder to find lanes - so many of the houses I bowled at as a kid are gone - Newmarket, Exeter, etc. and Dover is getting rid of theirs.
I loved it! Sibling rivalry at its finest! 🤬
a star is born
That was super cool to watch!
Growing up in Mass, bowled candlepin since around 5 years old. There's tons of really good candlepin action on TH-cam. Saturday at noon, most of Boston watched a candlepin show on tv for more than 30 years. It's part of Boston sports history. Our own little game. Duckpin was kind of southern Mass, RI, and mid Atlantic. Pins fly in duckpin.
Candlepin can be frustrating, right Packy?
5:30 That's actually impressive 😅
But cool video. Never been duck bowling or candle bowling, looks fun tho
We see where all the looks went between the kids lol great video.
7:50 this is the single greatest thing i've ever seen
South Boston Bowl is fantastic, I ought to go more often. Great video! Those skinny pins don’t make it easy.
Candlepin bowler here. Great to see it getting some coverage. Next time you're around, let me know! Can introduce you to some "pros". We love seeing ten pin guys come try it out!
Lot of “pros” candlepin is a fun and difficult game but if your tought the mechanics for it, its pretty straight forward.
Candlepin bowling is tough! I've only done it once when I was a junior bowler, a house out here in California had it for a while like 20+ years ago. But yeah, it's definitely more of a northeast coast thing for sure.
oh I think I had heard about those lanes in Cali. Where was that located?
I've never had the chance to bowl candle pin but I have bowled duck pin. Really fun. An interesting challenge for what feels like familiar territory.
Packy finds a way to get 40 mph out of a ball! lol
Packy: "Maybe I'll curve it." Ball takes off like a rocket, curving into the gutter. 😀
Got to see this with Keven and some other intrepid PBA stalwarts.
These other variants of bowling look like so much fun. The jr pro shop channel did a 5-pin video not too long ago and that version looks like fun too.
man we had an AMF house in Florida that had 8 lanes of duck pin bowling. Used to love duck pin bowling. Found 3 balls. Still have them. Wish they still had some here
Where do they have these lanes I wanna try this
I like how Packy still wore the Genesis K-motion tape for this lol
Back in 1974 we went on a family vacation to Kennebunkport Maine and we went candlepin or duckpin bowling. I can't believe it is still around.
"That would be your third throw. You cheater."
still got that 2 handed hop love it
Less Packy and more of your sister.
I think one of my proudest bowling achievements is getting gutter-spare followed by a strike in candlepin, I grew up on candlepin before transitioning to 10 pin, I think my high game was like a 100 or 110, but it has been so long I cannot remember
Wow, candlepin bowling is harder than it looks. I have yet to try it.
It's fun. i grew up with it.
that was awesome - i have only gone candlepin bowling once it was a lot of fun and really damn hard. you should go duckpin bowling next since you are around the area of candlepin/duckpin . nice win and maddy is awesome
Super enjoyable video!! I’ve never been candlepin but it looks fun.
I've only seen candle pin bowling in northeast. Duck pin too for that matter. But people across the country seem to at least have heard of duck pin bowling. I mention candle pin and they look at me like I'm dumb
I thought you were gonna throw it two handed 1st time you went 😂😂😂
Like others that have commented I also grew up with candlepin bowling and have fond memories of it. But took up tenpin about 10 years ago and haven't looked back.
I didn't bowl 10 pin until I served in the USAF. All candle pin growing up.
I've only done candle pin once in the over 40 since leaving home for bootcamp.
Where in Mass did you shoot this?
Balls that enter the gutter negate any score on that ball. The deadwood (what you're call live-wood), must come to a stop before rolling again.
This looks like a ton of fun!
If y’all ever make it towards San Antonio need to get y’all set up to bowl 9-pin.
That super bowl picture on the wall XD
Love this.
looks like fun, no one does candlepin bowling around this area.
Easy to see who's the better looking out of you two 🙂Go girl.
Lived in Framingham, MA for a couple years and did it there. Frustratingly fun as I was looking for a PBA sponsor at the same time. You think you can do it easily...then you wake up. You guys were awesome. Would love to see a doubles match with you and Madison against Maddy and Keven.
Imagine having to bring your sister onto the channel to get a win! hahaha!
Where is this are you in boston
I would like to see Packy try to bowl a 250 throwing backup balls
Candlepin looks very cool, wish they had it in st Louis haha, very fun stuff
Back in the 1980s I had a league at an alley where the balls came back above the lanes. You would always had to time your shot so a ball wouldn't come back during your approach. I don't miss it.
Literally the funniest video
Where is this bowling alley I need to see this place
Go to Maryland and try Duckpin Bowling. It's very similar yet different.
Been duckpin bowling before it’s a blast!!
were you using a pin up or pin dowm layout packy? 🙂
Awesome game to the both of you!
That was interesting?? Sort of? I wonder if anyone has ever shot a perfect candlepin game? Heck yes, let's see what sis can do on a regular lane! I wouldn't suggest challenging Nick and his sister to a brother sister match though, just sayin'. Happy New Year Packy!
World record is 245, it has happened twice.
Nick and his sister are both pros!!
@@TheHouseBowling That's why I wouldn't suggest it. LOL! Unless your sis has some hidden skills?!
@@peteg475 Pete Signore Jr. had a 279 on 3/5/1992
@@ASarma11 That's duckpins, not candlepins.
I've shot duck pin a time or two, but never candle pin. IMHO duck pin should be slightly easier because the duck pins bounce around more than candle pins. The house I used to bowl at had 10 duck pin lanes and the rest were 10 pin lanes, but they got rid of the duck pins a long time before I started bowling. Also, the duck pin lanes used phenolic pin decks which made it interesting when you bowled 10 pin on those lanes.
Packy you have to try 5 pin bowling. Would be a fun video to watch.
Love candlestick bowling. Used to play quite often. Averaged around 110. Harder to do now cause there really isn't any
close to Albany NY anymore. Used to play in Lee Mass .
Weird thing is I do it righty and bowl 10 pin lefty. Would love to meet up halfway and bowl against you.
You will be glad to know there is a place in Albany that installed some candlepin lanes in their center. Have you heard of Apex Entertainment?
More types of bowling, please.
Duckpin and SkeeBall
Definitely more challenges
Packy, you have to throw the ball HARD, you tenpin weirdo!! lol