What Should Christians Think About “Apemen” Fossils? - Dr. Todd Wood
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- This video segment is from "Beyond Is Genesis History? Vol 2 : Life & Design," where we explore the fascinating fields of biology, genetics, and intelligent design. Check it out on our website: bit.ly/2QlPtQV.
A visit to the gorilla exhibit at the Memphis Zoo springboards an excellent discussion between Del Tackett and biologist Todd Wood about hominids, that is, humans and non-human primates, of the fossil record. They compare fossil skulls of a variety of humans, like the neanderthal, to those of extinct apes like Australopithecus (of 'Lucy' fame) and discover some substantial differences between the two.
Dr. Wood has a BS in Biology from Liberty University in Virginia (1994) and a PhD in Biochemistry from the University of Virginia (Charlottesville, 1999). Immediately following his PhD work at Virginia, Dr. Wood accepted a position as the Director of Bioinformatics at the Clemson University Genomics Institute (Clemson, South Carolina). After working for about two years at Clemson University, Dr. Wood accepted a faculty position at Bryan College (Dayton, Tennessee) in 2002. He is now president of the Core Academy of Science.
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As a system architect, I can testify that great components of a system is always reused in another system. It applies to both hardware and software. If God invented logic, it makes sense He would apply some engineering principles.
Watchmakers argument is a logical fallacy waiting to conked a Christian apologist on his testicles.
@@mihaicolceriu-nicola7148 Experimental science can't prove God or Evolution as an origin of life, we get the same data and we try to make sense of it the best we can. And we look at the evidence the world gives us and decide what we believe is true, without proof, just evidence. All humans are alike in the sense that we all have beliefs we can't prove. But they can be more or less well founded. You don't have to all of a sudden accept the existence of God just because you understand that God and Evolution are two competing worldviews that we use to interpret data. (I mean the view of God that we find in the bible, with a literal interpretation of Genesis as history. Other views of God might be compatible with evolution).
@@Alexander-qy7yz
God is not compatible with evolution!
The people who wrote the Bible did not have any concept of evolution it was Magic and a Invisible Being and does it get any stupider than that?.
@@Alexander-qy7yz wrote: "Experimental science can't prove God or Evolution as an origin of life...." Evolution has nothing to do with the "origin of life". You are confusing evolution with abiogenesis.
@@rev.miller9539 Okay fine. Let's split them apart. Then we can't prove God, evolution or abiogenesis using experimental science.
This man just took out a skull from his backpack. Was NOT expecting that lol
"If you stop eating your own vomit, you'll probably stop vomiting." Top notch advice right there.
Del Tackett and biologist Todd Wood are eating their own vomit!
Yeah that's how we finally crawled our way out of the Dark Ages Society stopped eating the vomit of religion
@@darkeen42 yeah for real everyone should believe in an unproved Theory that we evolved from worms into a shrew that stop laying eggs turned into a monkey then from there expanded into the most predominant organism on Earth forming 77 different languages with thousands of different cultures that all speak of creation in the same manner. You're right Mikey theists should stop believing in an intelligent design and focus on eating and breeding like the rest of our animal Compadres.
@@matador8153 that's not at all how evolution worksand it's been proven with the same technology that we are ok with convicting someone of murder with. If fasts Arbor worth learning it shouldn't be worth talking
@@darkeen42 oh it's not? Oh wait that's right there's multiple different theories for the exact role of events species change excetera. Regardless can't be proven therefore believing in such is showing as much fervor as any theist.( that's someone who believes in a higher power in case you didn't know
This topic is greatly needed in today's church! So happy to see God's ministers tackling this issue.
Making excuses for being totally wrong
@@lutkedog1 camp aliensdidit?
@@i7Qp4rQ nope. But nether did Adam and eve.
@@proudarmedreadytobugaloode6295 Prove that you exist.
Spelling error but not allowed to post edit. Oh well.
Neanderthal s played the flute and did amazing paintings. They made clothes and tools. Animals do not do that.
There were no such things as "Neanderthals".
@David Davison Why thank you, David! That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me all day.
Animals dont use tools? Lmao
Chimpanzees make spears and hunt other monkeys with them. Very peculiar. One could almost say they are behaving how we did at the start of our species.
Orangutans chew tree sap up to make it frothy then wash themselves with it, as its a natural disinfectant. That is insane intelligence.
Birds sing all the time.
Elephants will stay by their dead and mourn for them, which signifies a high level of self awareness. Most animals would not understand the concept of death in that way.
Anything else other animals dont do that we do? Just go and interact with a monkey 1 time in your life, 1 look in their eyes and faces and you can see the resemblances.
Most zoo's will sell paintings done by a variety of species for fundraisers. Many of them are done during live shows so you can watch the animal work.
Most people who make broad claims about what we can do and animals can't often don't have much experience with what many animals are capable of.
@@reuelo that is wrong about tools..even ravens/crows have been known to use tools in the form of sticks, etc..look it up..apes also use tools..
I just found this channel a couple days ago, and it’s a real gem. Thank you for the great content
Yes there lies are great if you know nothing about the fossil record or what the rest of the skeleton proves
@@darkeen42 Maybe you should get away from your religion of evolutionism once in a while and study science? Science has debunked every one of your religion's silly "fossils".
Even Gould admitted that the fossils were not the place to find evidence for evolutionism. Get educated!
@@ColonelEmpire where are you getting those claims? An absolutely no way has evolution been debunked at all where do you get that from people's use entire career is devoted to convincing you the Bible is true that's like accepting Pepsi's advertising agency when they tell you Coke tastes terrible. Learn about science learn what's been discovered.. watching creationists try to debunk evolution is f****** hilarious they keep claiming where's the transitional species show me one there's hundreds living today you people haven't a clue what you're talking about our entire medicine infrastructure is based on the knowledge gained from the understanding of evolution I really hope you don't go to the doctor because they've based what they would do for you on evolution
@@ColonelEmpire and evolution is religion in the same way abstinence is a sex position you don't even know what the words you use mean. Meanwhile we know exactly where the Bible came from we know how it was compiled we know the transition it went from oral tradition that had been embellished and exaggerated over generations until somebody wrote it down and then it got copy and then it got edited again and then it got copied and then it got missed translated and then I got edited again and then got copied until it's absolutely nothing like what originally was why do you believe the Bible everything about it proves it's wrong
@@ColonelEmpire , the Bible contradicts itself constantly read the four accounts of the resurrection and compare them to each other they can't all be true they are fundamentally different contradictory accounts I'm willing to bet you never even read your entire Bible. Christians only read the little bits and pieces there preacher is comfortable with
My stepdad was 4ft.11 and 350lbs! If they dug him up 500yrs from now they would say they found a new North American gorrila!!!
Evolutionists love to point out all the similarities humans have with animals, but they steer far clear of talking about the differences. No other creature on earth can come close to producing music, art, literature, a moral code, etc. We stand alone in those things, and we see no signs of the lower orders growing in them.
There is no such thing as a lower order, this beliefs stems from a heiracial view that puts God at the top followed by you and everything else beneath it ...so simple yet so incorrect
No organization skills, building skills, language/music/art production, spiritual actions, myriad other skills - skull & bones are LOOKS only. So simple to see the difference between human and animal - but some choose clueless.
@@mo1240 no organizational skills?
Like a wolf pack hunting, dolphins and orcas working together on bait balls,...ants wasps bees and Hornets, termites etc, I'm sure no ancient humans ever spawned any organizational ideas from such communal insects. Beavers, of course no human ever got an idea about constructing something from a beaver. No language ?
Not that you can understand anyway ...clearly, let's just ignore all the communication skills of any animal on the face of the planet, like songbirds ...whale songs that can travel hundreds of miles underwater and a myriad of other communication examples ...but it's just so obvious to you clearly.
Because you are across this subject
Koko, the famous gorilla who learned sign language,
@@lutkedog1 Did he invent sign language and teach it to other gorillas?
Interesting timing in light of this recent study by Almécija et al. (2021). a few quotes to note. After 150 years of continuous discoveries, essential information about human origins remains elusive … Even worse, relatively complete fossil apes undisputedly assigned to early members of the gorilla and chimpanzee lineages remain to be found. Humans are storytellers: Theories of human evolution often resemble “anthropogenic narratives” that borrow the structure of a hero’s journey to explain essential aspects such as the origins of erect posture, the freeing of the hands, or brain enlargement (166). Intriguingly, such narratives have not drastically changed since Darwin (166). We must be aware of confirmation biases and ad hoc interpretations by researchers aiming to confer their new fossil the starring role within a preexisting narrative. Evolutionary scenarios are appealing because they provide plausible explanations based on current knowledge, but unless grounded in testable hypotheses, they are no more than “just-so stories". , a senior research scientist with American Museum of Natural History, is also quoted as offering this remarkable admission: “When you look at the narrative for hominin origins, it’s just a big mess - there’s no consensus whatsoever.”
I've worked in factories for years I know a lot of Apemen
Go hang out at.welfare.or.food.banks...
😂 brah
My uncle Vinnie looks similar
@@mo1240
Did you see the movie My uncle Vinnie?
What should Christians think about Ape Men? I think you should leave Congress out of this.
Please do not insult apes. They just do what come naturally. Congress on the other hand . . . . . .
The next time you hear science say, "This newly discovered finger bone is going to change everything we thought we ever knew about human history" than you can rest assured...their current understanding is on pretty shaky ground.
Newly discovered finger bone of a Australopithecus afarensis is an extinct species of australopithecine which lived from about 3.9-2.9 million years ago and it did change everything for the educated....the ones of us who don't believe in myths.
Garry Dye
No, that's just news agencies trying to get clicks. Our current understanding of the theory of evolution is very vast, so you can rest assured we do share a common ancestor with all other life.
@@marcocappelli5124
You are making a good argument
@@lutkedog1 Ehh, thanks? 🤨
Garry! Science has never said anything like that! Although the Theory of Evolution comes close! Unlike dogma of religion, science will be happy to acknowledge evolution as a failure when proof is presented! Religion operates on opinion and dogma, science, only on proven evidence!
Three monkeys sat in a coconut tree
Discussing things as they’re said to be.
Said one to the others: “Now listen you two,
There’s a certain rumour that can’t be true
That man descended from our noble race -
Why, the very idea is a disgrace!
“No monkey ever deserted his wife,
Starved her babies and ruined her life;
And you’ve never known a mother monk
Leave her babies with others to bunk,
Or pass them on from one to another
‘Til they scarcely know who is their mother.
“And another thing you’ll never see -
A monk build a fence round a coconut tree,
Forbidding all other monks to taste
And letting the coconuts go to waste.
Why! if I built a fence round a coconut tree
Starvation would force you to steal from me.
“Here’s another thing a monk won’t do:
Go out at night and get in a stew,
Or use a gun or club or knife
To take some other monkey’s life.
Yes, man descended, the ornery cuss,
But brother he didn’t descend from us
Author unknown
Did anyone else not notice the gorilla vomit until he pointed it out 🤷♂️
Evo was distorted after Darwin recanted theory for one purpose - to distract & discourage a generation by asserting that life is RANDOM, non-purposefully designed, amoral, and insignificant under the impersonal sky. All a lie, for the Lord is extremely detail specific and created humans with infinite love. Some do not understand free will, but God Is Love. Humans' most intense need for life = Love.
This is the best explanation concerning evolution and creation I have heard so far. I think science will not contradict God`s divine wisdom and creation but perhaps help us to understand it a little better.
Science does not contradict your god. Your god contradicts science. Science is the discovery of evidence. Religion is a proclamation of faith. It's the religious who proclaim they "know", all the while devoid of any empirical evidence. If you're a Christian, your bible constantly contradicts known, observable, provable, and demonstrable evidence and how our physical world operates. It takes faith to believe a beehive can, within a short while, be created in a lion's carcass when any 1st Grader knows that it can take, under nearly perfect conditions, at minimum 5 months, for bees to create a fully functional and honey producing apiary. By then, there would be nothing left of the lion's carcass.
As all religious belief is based on faith, you don't need evidence as your truth is already there. Science seeks impirecal evidence to prove its theories. How can you prove something that only exists in the minds of believers?
Reality contradicts the bible hell the bible contradicts the bible
The reality of the world contradicts the Bible in every way. How the Bible contradicts the Bible in every way they can't even get its own claims straight it's clearly a man made politically edited mistranslated pile of garbage
@@chrismalcomson7640 yep you're completely right you don't need evidence to foolishly believe clearly false things
Of all the experts on this series, this one left me with the most questions and doubt. I think this needs much more attention.
Everyone needs to read through Genesis 6 when it’s talk about fallen angels and the daughters of mankind.
Exactly!
fallen angels is before adam and eve when lucifer and satan denied gods existance which was 200,000 years ago
None of which is true.
@@jeffreypardy2831 thats goes against Scripture and the Bible. Where are you getting your information? The Bible is clear that there was mixing, that could not be possible without humans, hence they chose wives from the daughters of men.
@@nathanyoung4135 urantia book, man has been here on earth for 993,506 years
In the same vein, explain the diversity that sprouted from a single cell that eventually "crawled out of" a primordial ooze and spawned all this life. Did it mate with another single cell and from where ? Much less, how did the single cell suddenly become "alive".
Ha Ha HA hee hee hee!!! Thanks Brother, you ROCK! Have you ever checked out Dr. Dino? He's a Christian debunking evilution and a hilarious MAN!
And how did it know to form an anus? No cell wants that job Lol!!! Seriously how did it know there was light to see and how to form an eye? I hear ya and I agree.
Haven't u heard?! It's all random chance. Pay no mind to the vast amount of luck and or time involved. It was just bound to happen apparently.
@@arcguardian Not without a Catalyst lol, Einstein Said so himself.
Are you seriously asking how an asexually reproducing single-celled form of life would find a partner to sexually reproduce with?
This is incredibly, impossibly asinine.
Great commentary. Thanks!
The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.
Amen
@@Jack44M except the book is true
@@Jack44M Not a self serving book a God serving book.
The fool cannot prove God but keeps talking about invisible friends
@@lutkedog1 when atheists agree that if God created everything he would have to be outside of time space and matter but then demand “evidence” of God within the very bounds of time space and matter .. as if God is going to be in a black hole or on the other side of the moon...
would a computer program ever write itself in a trillion years?... would the space shuttle ever build itself in a trillion years?...
the simplest cell is more complex than the space shuttle which is the most complex thing we’ve ever built... dna is more far more complex than the most complex computer program we’ve ever written... how on earth does one conclude that these things happen without any intelligence whatsoever .....
it goes beyond biology..
* Electromagnetic force versus force of gravity: 1 part in 10^37
* Cosmological constant: 1 part in 10^120
* Mass density of universe: 1 part in 10^59
* Expansion rate of universe: 1 part in 10^55
* Initial entropy: 1 part in 10^ (10^123)
those are the constants of the universe... 10^30 for example is 1 with 30 0’s behind it... (roughly 1000000000000000000000000000000)
all it would take is for ONE of those values to be off by one part in those extreme values and there would be no possible life in the universe, if a universe at all... and those are just 5, there’s many more...
and what does the rAtIoNaL atheist conclude... “most likely chance”
maybe just open your eyes
Genesis 6 gives some insight into this subject.
Thank you for opening this science. It will change education and improve mankind's evaluation of the Bible. Bless you. I am following and sharing
@@BobSmith-ew5oi The valid moral reason is called SIN. A holy God cannot ignor evil.
@@tabithadebolt1708
Science is not a Moral issue your thinking is.
Thank you for sharing.
Cannot wait!
heres a thought, pre-flood we had a wider range of human beings populating the planet. When the flood came the only gene pool was carried by those 8 in the ark.... pithicus may be a representative.of one such lost geneology
Maybe. But all came from Adam and Eve and their genes. That seems limited as well.
One answer may be what we see in Genesis 6
@@scottb4579 Or just maybe the whole bible is a load of bollocks...
@@lukecheshire2299 Have you ever read it?
@@scottb4579 according to Ch6, all would be descended from Seth as in Ch5 Seth's 8 generations to Noah and his sons are enumerated.
Cain to Tubal-Cain line of 8 generations would be gone, unless Noah's wife or daughters in law were Cain's descendents. That seems converse to the decision to keep Noah's line pure by eliminating the corrupt lines.
At that time "There were Giants." Also the Sons of God were wiving the Daughters of Men producing the Great Men of Renown. (careful reading the Hebrew in Masoretic text these two were not the same people as it is two separate sentences)
So Gen 4-6 reports:
Cain's descendents
Seth's descendents
Mixed marriage line
Giants of some sort
These would be four peoples of note, just in the story. Even biologists have disclosed that Neanderthals mixed with our ancestors A thousand years plus ago... And died out.
@@scottb4579 Yes. Its quite the read tbh, took a few times to get used to the writing style. I'm very interested in theism from a historical perspective.
6:55 couldnt stop laughing
I can explain this. The Giant weird skulls with heavy eyebrow ridges are the people who lived for 100s of years in the Bible. And also the nephalum were absolutely huge!! Eye brow ridges NEVER stop growing.
too bad you're wrong, because the remains of young Homo neanderthalensis children have been discovered in caves - and proven to be distinct from Homo sapien examples.
My father is a paleontologist retired. You are wrong! I get so sick of this debate. Did you know they found perfectly normal human skeletons intermixed with dinosaurs bones. EVELution is Satans biggest lie
@@michiganwoodsman2199 even if what you said were close to correct, it does not refute the reality that is the process of biological evolution.
All it would mean is a shifting of the timelines.
I would love to see a video where Dr. Wood explains where he would draw this line. As far as I am aware there are a lot of skulls between the neanderthal/modern human and ape skulls they have not talked about.
Based on the time constraints of this segment, we weren't able to have Dr. Wood talk about the other various hominid specimens (believe it or not, he has fossil replicas of many of them!). However, he has discussed them at length elsewhere, including fossil "apeman" discoveries made after our documentary was complete.
Please see the following videos below:
Digging for Truth: Ape-Men and Adam (Part One)
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Digging for Truth: Ape-Men and Adam (Part Two)
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Also, compare Stephen hawkings bones to Antonio silva from UFC and tell me an archeologist digging up those bones might easily mistake them as two different species lmao
No there are very specific signs maybe learn before you speak
An atheist once said, "I'm just an evolved fish that should be breeding, eating and sleeping like the rest of the animal kingdom but all my focus is on my origin, and I don't know why."
That didn't sound like what a person would say sounds like something their opponents would claim they said
@@darkeen42 It was Stefan Molyneux on his call in show. A woman asked him what he thought his best argument for intelligent design was, that was his answer.
@@sweatt4237 and who is he?
@@sweatt4237 likely an apologies claiming not to be. I have never heard an athiest say that
@@darkeen42 I gave you his name use Google, I'm surprised you don't know him.
Two of my buddies are athiest and one day one started asking some similar questions and the other guy started falling apart and wondering why he was asking such things. It shook him up more than I ever have. It's interesting seeing you go through the same denial when a fellow athiest questions the randomness doctrine.
It makes sense that beings which are similar share similar genetics, doesn't mean they are related by a common ancestor. The same way if a sculpt a cat, a gorilla and a human from clay, the gorilla and the human would take a similar sculpting technique, it does not mean I sculpting a gorilla first and then morphed it into a human.
One thing you gotta say about this doctor is that he seems very honest. Even if you are an atheist you'd have to admit that. I'd like to see him debate Aaron ra.
Would've been great if that ape in the background came to the conversation while passing the skulls back n forth. Ape could've held onto one too. Anyhow, love history & the Bible. We have a very rich & informative past.
But the bible is not history
Indeed we do Autumn! It's awesome to see how the Bible is corroborated time and time again with historical records and geologic and biologic evidence we can see and test today.
I can take a tooth, a bone, a skull, and spin any narrative I want. It comes with two requirements however, 1) I have letters following my last name, 2) it adheres to the evolutionary pseudo scientific paradigm.
I feel sorry for those wasting their lives on such a worthless pursuit 🙃
That's what I was just thinking about believers... what a tragic waste of their lives, trying to please a fictitious Daddy.
lmfao Im confused are you talking about the lunitics in the video? cause between them and real Athropologist/scientst, they're the ones using pseudo science to interpret evolution. I mean, lets be real 98% of scientist vs a youtube channel. So you actually perfectly described the absent minded creationist...to a T.
@@exoxoe7128 dude, these lunatics are right. The Neandertal were human.
Also, evolution did happen, since the Bible says "let the earth give..." but Adam was supposed to be made separately.
@@exoxoe7128 98% of scientists....lol
The biggest problem with evolution is that once it was allowed to be taught, it was taught as absolute. There are millions of people walking around so absolutely sure of things that are not so, simply because that's what they were taught. Most of them have no idea that most of the scientific community has walked away from Darwin's original theory, but they will argue to the death to defend it. That kind of rabid blindness is spiritual.
Great video
I think the top scientists who study this stuff will eventually find a point in our evolutionary history to say the lines don't add up how can the brain evolve so fast in the span of 50,000 years or less. I think they are hoping to dig up another link in the chain soon to explain why this happened and in my opinion it's only going to create more questions
But scientists have found many examples of rapid evolution. This will just be another one.
I’m intrigued
I recommend Genesis Impact Movie.
What's intriguing about his arbitrary determination that Neanderthals were "one of us" but that Australopithecus afarensis was "just an ape" - despite its perfectly evident ability to walk on two legs and use stone tools like we can?
@@rustyshackleford1465 Using tools and bipedalism do not a human make. The ability to think abstractly, reason, create culture, etc., are indicators of personhood. Heidelberg man, Neanderthal, Homo sapiens display those characteristics. Australopithecenes don’t.
Interpretations of evidence without proof is just an assumption based on world view.
Evolution is a proven theory. The evidence is proof that man is a member of group of great apes. Humans, Chimps, gorillas, and orangutans are our cousins.
@ roger herron “proven theory”? no it isn’t. Not even close.
@Tyrion Lannister. Sure
-Coelacanths. You know that extinct 225 million year old fish with legs fossil? It’s not extinct, it’s alive and well and guess what. When compared to the 225 million year old fossil not one single thing has changed/evolved!! Not eye placement. Not size. Not leg or fin placement. Not nothing!! The living example is an exact copy of the 225 million year old fossil.
Is that meaningful? I’d say so.
@Tyrion Lannister you say the figures are inaccurate? In what way?
Anyway about my sources.
See I don’t know about anyone else but I like to get my information about climate change from aeronautical engineers like Bull Nye the science guy.
And get my information about astrophysics from museum employees like Neil Degrasse Tyson.
And my news from CNN.
But when it comes to Creationism, well that’s all together different.
I like to....
Just kidding bro. I don’t owe you an explanation and I don’t care how you feel about that. I also don’t care that you believe in “science”. See here is the thing bud, the main difference between the science community and the religious community is that the religious community fully and openly admits they are part of a religion.
@@ryanlemons7831 and sharks still exist. In science we understand there will always be data that are outside the norm. Evolution is proven by science from geology to DNA.
Please read a real science book.
I died laughing on the vomit part😂
1 x 10 -100,000 is the percent of species that we know about that have ever lived. That’s a decimal with 100,000 zeros and then a 1. Over 3 billion years of life on earth and a trillion billion species of plant, animals and insects. Our fossil record is infinitely small compared to the number of species that have existed.
If I were to point at a computer, or a house, and say no one designed it, no one created it, it just put itself together over the countless years- one could, would, and SHOULD look at me like I've utterly lost my mind.
So why on earth do people believe that life, something far more complex than any computer or house could be, was created en mass by nothing and out of nothing?
They shouldn't, and nobody is claiming that it did.
If the argument is that we are sophisticated beings therefore the only way we could exist if you have been created by an even more sophisticated being, a god, then by that same logic, the only way the God could exist is to have been created by an even MORE sophisticated being.
It would be even more improbable for the god to exist without having been created than for us to exist without having been created
@@johnbaxter533 For our universe to be uncreated, it must have no beginning- and if we have no beginning, we have no end, either.
On the other hand, if something is created, something or someone must have done it. Nothing can be created of nothing. But a line of creators going back into infinity is impossible- something, someone, must be the first creator, the first cause. Uncreated.
Science agrees, we do have a beginning. The argument is, how did we begin?
Current theory is that tiny particles, called matter and antimatter, were formed in matched pairs from energy in the form of photons- effectively, packets of light particles- decaying.
The matter and antimatter collided continuously, destroying each other in the clash and creating light in the process, until more matter managed to form than antimatter. Scientists are still scratching their heads on how or why that happened.
So. Photons, matter and antimatter are all created things, with a beginning, and an end. The only thing that seems uncreated, is energy.
Which either A: Someone started the cycling between the forms of photons, matter, and antimatter, and caused the process to hiccup and create two matter instead of one.
B: Energy has somehow always been cycling through those forms, and someone interfered in the process of transition, suddenly allowing for more than one matter to be formed from a single photon.
C: That energy itself was created by someone, who insured there was more matter than antimatter from the start. I can't even begin to fathom how you'd create or destroy energy, but there's that option.
And last possibility I can think of, D: The 'energy' is that Someone and decided to kick everything off themself.
Regardless, the idea that matter alone managed to, by chance, repeatedly form into atoms, and those atoms into living cells? Even a single cell is a complex network of materials, requiring very specific functions to survive and not self destruct because it was missing one component or process. And it only became more complex from there.
13.8 billion years worth of happy accidents, and here we are.
Except even the most basic creation process had to be started somehow. Someone had to interfere to cause the situation to change from it's original course. I argue for outside interference, and an intelligent one at that. Nothing else could consistently and repeatedly interfere with pretty much everything.
Everything we see started somewhere, nothing that we can use our senses to observe is without beginning. We have no concept or understanding of an uncreated person, place, or thing, to work with, except in faith, and the single vacuum we are questioning: who, or what, is the First Creator?
The First Creator must be uncreated.
If you get rid of Adam and Eve, you get rid of the tree in the garden. And you cut down the need for the tree of Calvary. The idea that there is no judgement is what drives these philosophies.
I disagree. Science is simply looking at the natural world and trying to find the best explanation for how it came about that fits the facts. Science makes no assessment of supernatural claims, because it cannot sense or measure anything supernatural. And therefore it has no assessment of whether or not there will be a Judgement Day. If God is proven to be true, Science will still stand, as man's best understanding of what He has made. So there is no conflict between science and religion. Please don't try to manufacture one.
@@robwhythe793 I would agree that true science is looking at facts all the facts. Not just the ones you agree with. Science today is very politicized and false. One has only to look honestly at Climate change , and the response to Covid-19. Scripture warns us to beware of science falsely so called. When a researcher ignores any theory that may have the Supernatural involved, merely because he can not prove God. He has made it impossible to seek truth. True science is trying to think the thoughts of God.
@@TheJHMAN1 I disagree on so many levels. If science means looking at the facts, ALL the facts, then it must leave God out - because God is not a fact. That means that science will only ever come up with a "natural" explanation and is therefore limited in its scope. But in order to "think the thoughts of God", you first have to have access to the mind of God - and that has so far not been granted to us.
Next, "science" as I described it IS "true science". If you claim it has become politicised, and reference climate change and Covid-19, I would respond that you are confusing the science itself with the political responses to it. And yes, the political responses to both climate change and covid-19 have been poor and confusing - but that is not the fault of science.
Finally, if you feel the need to include the supernatural as well as part of your "truth", I would suggest you consider science as looking at what God has made, and religion as understanding why He made it. Science itself can never answer "why". And religion is a poor way to study the "what". That crossover is the mistake made by American Creationists.
@@robwhythe793 I agree with a lot of what you say especially the confusion between the political response to actual science. Sometimes the tail wags the dog!
I don't agree that we can't know the mind of God. In the natural world it's evident if we were honest with ourselves. The bible puts it like this (from memory), "day after day the heavens pour forth speech".
In a spiritual way, I can understand why you say we can't know the mind of God. We can't know the unknowable unless He reveals himself to us. But thankfully He has, trace the story through from the fall of man into rebellion and judgement to the redemption that was finally fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Hard for most folk to accept because it appears foolish, that's until you start to seek the truth.
@@nickbarton3191, I'm already agreeing with the idea that God has revealed something of himself in nature, as I'm a lifelong, committed christian. But we do not know His mind, and there is so much in the Creationist view that is contradictory, such as the concept that death and illness did not exist before the Fall. If so, why did animals suddenly start eating each other, just because of one person's decision to eat a fruit? Where did parasitic behaviour come from, if not from God? What's with bone cancer in children, as Stephen Fry would say? If God did not make Evil, who did? God's purpose is not so simple as Creationism makes out, there's more to it than that. Creationism is ridiculed by atheists for good reason, and it has no answer to their criticisms. To reject science in order to make outlandish, unsupported claims is just another nail in christianity's coffin. We need to do better.
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Dr. John Sanford plant geneticist with world renowned innovations and inventions in the field of genetic modification maintains that Neanderthals were humans with a certain pathology brought about by breeding within small communities from interviews I've seen with him,that certainly seems possible to me,and I think we would all almost certainly agree that he would be more academically qualified to come to such an assertion than most of us on here.there are also certain indigenous peoples that carry features such as the heavier brow etc.alive today,but nobody thinks these people are anything other than human like the rest of us,there is variation within the kind,it's all genetic information,another point is this,it is said that in all of nature the most similar flesh of any creature to our own is that of the pig,now if we descended from apes shouldn't it be them that have the most similar flesh to us,DNA is coded information,are we to believe that the information to create made for purpose limbs of all kinds,scales,skin, different types of eyes,breathing apparatus and such for all the plethora of life forms on this planet lay ready to be put to use in these single celled organisms that we are all to have evolved from,or that this information was accrued by a process of selection that randomly exists without reason from a series of ongoing mutations which are overwhelmingly deleterious by the way according to the afore mentioned dr.john Sanford and others.the main man in the new atheist movement Anthony flew upon witnessing the complexity at a cellular level abandoned his previous position,Richard Dawkins now the leading man in same said grouping when asked how he accounts for the apparent design in nature said the aliens must have done it and they must have evolved through a process similar to Darwinian evolution,the equivalent of kicking the can down the road, who created the aliens? When Darwin came up with his theory little to nothing was known about the vast complexity of the cell itself,we hadn't microscopes strong enough,Michael j Behe in his book Darwin's black box outlines the integrated nd cooperative nature of molecular machines working at this level to ensure the cell works properly,and there are how many cells in our bodies?what about the why? what's never discussed is purpose,there simply isn't need for things to evolve into all these different species and such,couldn't the simple bacterium's and amoebas and things always just remain as such,wouldn't life be easier and more pain free to do so?how anybody can look at all dis beautiful complexity and come to the conclusion that random unguided mutations filtered through natural selection brought all dis about for no other reason than for us to procreate kill and eat till we die is beyond me.what need then have we for things such as music,why do we love till our dying breaths our near and dear.why do the laws of nature exist surely a purposeless explosion would create more chaos than order,yet we see fine tuning exhibited!did we invent or discover mathematics?if we invented them why do we see them at work in nature.why does conscious observation affect the outcome of experiments pertaining to things of a quantum nature,how do people have out of body experiences,there's a lot more to this whole thing than a couple of gathered monkey bones.god bless you all.that we all may live as we are meant to and exhibit the love that jesus demonstrated and prescribed for us.
Love it, perfectly put ✝️
Guess they should know their rh factor. Negative blood is not traced to the same beginning
And Creation would be the same beginning.
@@lutkedog1 sure one rebellious one not
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No Creation would have the same beginning if it was true but we see different species come and go at different times even living at different times a creator did not create everything at the same time on this planet.
@@lutkedog1 i wasnt there
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Just Dig in the ground and you are there anyway there is no science in the Bible
Well first off! They should start thinking instead of letting someone else do the thinking for them!!!!
@TheBurlyBurrito I never claimed that the 04 according to books were written by God. They were written by anonymous writers and that is why all the 04 contradict one another. Even Jesus genealogy is different.
Old testament is even worst. Here are few verses from OT
"There she lusted with her lovers whose males sexual organs were those of DONKEYS and semen those of horses"
David saw Bathsheba taking bath and he had sex with her later on he killed her husband and married her"
"Two virgin sisters gave wine to their father and removed his clothes and inserted his sexual organ inside and both got pregnant"
"Amnon raped his sister"
"Juda had sex with a prostitute later on he came to know that she was his daughter-in-law"
Only sensible people will reject this pornographic book, Bible 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@logical-reasoning King James Bible
For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Gorgon, the fake experts regurgitate theories and tell themselves it's "science".
It's super easy just to say God did it. It's lets them off the hook from having to think and explore.
@@josephscala6707 The same is true of those that claim "billions of years ago" ... " the big bang ".
Getting some Dora the Explorer vibes from this man and his backpack full of items 😀
Fascinating topic! Ive really enjoyed the videos in this playlist
You should have played that old song “ I’m an apeman, I’m an apeman. Ape ape man”
The Kinks
See Dr. David Menton (phd anatomy) "Three ways to make an ape-man" for additional input on this subject.
Saw a dog that walks upright on utube - nonhuman tho
It would have been interesting to hear the perspective on skull archeology and the nephelim
The sons of Seth began to be called sons of God in the days of Enosh (Gen 4:26, margin). Now the next passage after 4:26, if you exclude "the book of the genealogy of Adam" that makes up chapter 5, is 6:1-4. So it was beautiful descendants of Cain marrying powerful descendants of Seth that broke down the miraculous enmity and brought such evil as to warrant a flood.
@bob proctor well, you seem highly sincere. But as the text says "began to be called by the name of God... And the sons of God saw the daughters of women" and as "spirits have not flesh and blood" and as angels "neither marry nor are given in marriage," I'll take my position as stated above. And I invite anyone to investigate the idea.
Animals, especially domestic, can bond unconditionally. We humans possess the the higher intelligence, yet are saddled with the sin problem.
I am a devout Christian, who does not adhere to the 'dictation' theory of biblical inspiration. The two separate creation stories in Genesis is not bad science, because it was never meant to be science at all. The message in genesis is much deeper & philosophical than just a simplistic view which falsely forces faith & reason to be in conflict.
So, basically, you don't believe the Word of God. There is only one Truth. Genesis is historical narrative. God is telling us what He did, how He did it, and How long it took Him. He also reveals the sequence He created in. There isn't anything "deep" or "philosophical" there. You would need to provide evidence from scripture itself for your contention. There isn't any. Do not be deceived by atheist scientists who constantly change what they believe. The history of science is a history of constant correction, but he Word of God endures forever.
1 Cor 11:8 for man did not come from woman, but woman came from man. Exactly as Genesis states. And this refutes evolution. So does Acts 17:26.
God does not create life through death and suffering. He is the Prince of Peace. He is a Spirit and He is love. Death is His enemy.
Robert Dewey Kudos to you sir! Although your sensible beliefs are held by a clear majority of Christians they are seldom seen on YT channels such as this. Sadly, the task of countering this "not even wrong" thinking from IGH? usually falls to secularists like me. Stand by for some textual bombardment from the literalists!
They were apes, not men. There is no evolution in Scripture, and that’s good enough for me.
@@BobSmith-ew5oi But, you see, there is much evidence that Scripture is true. People choose to ignore it in favor of men’s theories.
@@scooby3133 Sorry to hear that. I would recommend that you pray He gives you faith so that you don’t end up in hell. I’m not being mean. I’m just telling you the truth.
@@scooby3133 If you look at nature and the universe, that is your proof of God. He is self-evident to those who take off the blinders.
Mind closed. Your natural, most comfortable position.
It reminds me of the story of Jacob and Esau, they were fraternal twins and very different in appearance. I believe there were many differences in the early humans which has given rise to the evolution stories because we don’t have any way of knowing what the ancient humans looked like.
I am praying for the hardened hearts of men who still deny Gods existence, even when there is good evidence that shows there is a creator.
Hey Doctors, a question for you. What is the one bone that never stops growing through your whole life? As far as the neanderthal scull your holding if you know the answer to this question it will give you a new answer to what those so called Neanderthals were.
"Whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death." Exodus 31:15.
Really?
@@stiffrichard2816 I didn't write it...
Your point is?
He wrote this on the Sabbath (Saturday before sunset) so he engaged in labor on the Sabbath.
@@STho205 Today is Sunday. Each and every working police officer, doctor, hospital, clergyman, and millions of other should be put to death today.
This reminds me of a time when my wife and I stopped to visit the Knoxville Zoo on our way through town as we were traveling. We had young kids and needed a planned break along the way for everyone to stretch and expend some energy. We walked up to a small building near the gorillas that housed some that were there for medical and other purposes, but gave patrons an opportunity to view the creatures up close. As we stood there, another couple came up and stood with us. The particular gorilla we were watching proceeded to defalcate a baseball-sized dropping into its hand and pull it around to its face to smell it and take a bite. My wife and I understood that this was not entirely abnormal behavior. The other couple looked at this in shock and said to themselves, "Okay. I guess they really aren't that much like us?" They walked off and we were able to explain to our kids how this was a marvelous creature of God's, but that it was still not a human.
no one ever claimed apes were human lol....we share a common ancestor with other primates...your lack of understanding of what evolution IS...doesn't meant it isn't true
@@vladimirstolov9324 I think you are reading too much into what I wrote.
@@vladimirstolov9324 No. Humans do not "share a common ancestor" with the apes. The religious elite in evolutionism have reclassified humans as animals and then as apes in order to give their religion "credence" in the realm of science. Science has debunked evolution. Try science! It is a fabulous area of study.
@@ColonelEmpire not only do we share a common ancestry we are literally a kind of ape
@@darkeen42 No we do not share a common ancestor with the apes and we are only "a kind of ape" in your imagination and silly religion.
Reclassifying humans as animals and then saying that we are apes is religious extremism and not scientific.
HINT: similarities are not evidence of relation.
***Your faith in evolutionism is strong but misplaced***
Big question... when did evolution stop?
Why aren't the apes and monkeys in the zoo turning into humans?
Or even the ones in the wild?
Why don't fish grow legs anymore and just walk right up onto the beaches?
Why did dinosaurs disappear yet we say reptiles descended from them? And if that is true, why are there no huge reptiles standing as tall as buildings anymore?
And if all of mankind descended from apes, why do we all look different?
It hasn't stopped. Microbial evolution can be seen through a microscope. Covid 19 has evolved into many different strains in just a year or more. This is evolution in action.. We ourselves are evolving right now. I use a knife all the time for my work and I have callouses which have grown on my hands which stop me getting blisters. My body has evolved to solve a problem I face day to day. This is how evolution works..
I'm very interested in the elongated skulls that are obviously NOT the result of reshaping which have no suture line that would normally create two parietal plates but rather result in one solid anterior skull cap. Are these "human"?
TY brothers. See you soon w/our Lord in the clouds.
Snap out of it. There's no rapture. Don't fall on your face.
@@BobSmith-ew5oi Yes and you will end up in hell for eternity. Oh, by the way, you might want to look into the prophecy contained within Scripture. How a nation can be expelled from their country in 70 AD by the Romans. How they can come back as a nation thousands of years later in 1948. How their temple is being rebuilt and who will come into it and defile it. All taking place within history. Pretty good for a fairy tale book.
Why wait? Go NOW.
@@tabithadebolt1708 the nation wasn't expelled in 70ad. Those who weren't abroad or hadn't fleen were wiped out, then from those who were left another group were wiped out at Masada again.
But it's cute to see a preterist atheist. I had no idea you were a thing.
@@bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456 "fleen", kinda cool. Not a word, but I get it. Not even trolling either.
If man descended from apes, then how come there are still apes?
If Chihuahua dogs are descended from Wolfs...why do we still have Wolfs.
Evolutionary theory says humans and apes branched off of a common ancestor. I'm Christian and believe the Word of God. No evolution happened. But that is how evolution explains apes and humans.
I know you must be kidding.
@@erichodge567 no actually I wasn’t. But maybe you’d care to refute me.
@@dwlumpkin7726 , I just meant that the answer to this question has been given a million times. In fact, Scott B gives the answer in this very comment thread.
When so much of the jungles dried up, we had to quickly evolve to live on the plain. Upright posture allowed more efficient travel than knuckle walking,and it freed the hands to throw stone at predictors and use digging sticks to dig up roots and tubers and bash skills and bones for marrow along with animals to eat,since our Garden of Eden with easy fruit and greens no loner was there for us. Ways to survive,communicating ways to use simple stick and rock tools to get food required the evolution of the brain. Genesis can be appreciated as a beautiful and memorable. metaphor. A religious thought is that God works in mysterious ways.Studying evolution allows for the pondering with amazement at the sacred depths of nature.
I love how no-believers love to lecture in a condescending fashion while throwing theological spurisms around without any understanding. Btw the saying ‘god works in mysterious ways’ isn’t a biblical saying. It’s more of a pagan understanding of divinity. The biblical god has laid the end out from the beginning and all mysteries have been revealed. Mystery is something only a darkened mind struggles with.
I'm just wondering why the baboons living in the savanna at this very moment, facing predators etc... haven't evolved more? If evolution is true, why did some species evolve and others didn't even though they lived in the same area....
I have always wondered this. Look at ape's lower jaws. They are all rounded, but Humans have chins. In the late 1970's I heard a secular lecturer say that only humans have chins. Has anyone else heard that or have you noticed this difference between humans and apes?
If people approached science with a belief in the validity of the Bible as their starting point it’s really not difficult at all to comprehend the origins of everything in creation.
Hans, I do not believe for a moment that science and biblical truth are contradictory. I think that’s the primary point of this channel
@@hansdemos6510 there is far more proof against abiogenesis and evolution, then the manufactured proof against God !
There is no evidence for thermonuclear weapons in the Bible. Intercontinental ballistic missiles were never mentioned.
@@chilkat_river so what you're saying is that you never read the book of Revelations ? You might want to ! The prophecy is being fulfilled in my lifetime indicate that we are right at the 🚪 of the tribulation ! *Including a prophecy that require computers, the internet, scanners and implantable chips ! How did the Bible know these technologies would be available ?*
@@chilkat_river Hans is a known liar, he has been proven wrong multiple times, but he's got an obsession against God and his people, now he changes what he's saying and saying the pseudoscience of abiogenesis is now just a theory !
*He does that because he knows that I would whip him at the facts, like I have done every time I've come across him on TH-cam !*
But I had turned them over to God and he is just digging himself in deeper ! He will claim it's bad luck !
On "The Natural History of Retroviruses"
In a blog called "Answers in Genesis", in a post entitled "The Natural History of Retroviruses", Yingguang Liu and Charles Soper speculate that, because parts of some ERVs (endogenous retroviruses) perform functions either useful or essential for their hosts, they might have been created (as opposed to having been exaptated) in order to perform those functions. There are several problems with this idea, but from their point of view, the biggest problem is that they are shooting themselves in their creationist feet! See below.
Liu and Soper state that retroviral elements have been degraded by mutations. That is certainly true. So much for the creationist assertions that all DNA is functional, but their biggest problem is pointed out by fellow creationist Todd Wood in a blog post of his own. The problem is,
How come, if they are unrelated, do chimp and human ERVs share the same disabling mutations?
"Since the human and chimp genomes are very similar, the majority of ERVs are the same and have the same apparent "disabling mutations." Given the separate origins of humans and chimps (Genesis 2:7), we've either experienced thousands and thousands of mutations that are exactly the same as chimps or those "mutations" were created that way in the beginning. Since creation is the simpler hypothesis, that means the apparent degeneration of human and chimp ERVs is precisely that: apparent. Like ERVs themselves, the "disabling mutations" were also put there for a reason." - Todd Wood, "Microbes continue: retroviruses"
So
either chimps and humans are unrelated, their ERVs are degraded, and the common mutations are a colossal coincidence (Liu and Soper)
or
chimps and humans are unrelated, and their ERVs are not degraded. (Wood).
Yet there is massive evidence that ERVs are degraded - evidence that Liu and Soper themselves go into in detail. Indeed, the results of the "Phoenix virus" experiment, that resurrected a fully working exogenous (free) retrovirus from a set of "broken" ERVs shows that ERVs are indeed the inherited remains of mutated proviruses, and that the mutations that have degraded them are different in different ERVs (countering the suggestion that their mutations are common due to some deterministic process, BTW). It turns out that if you correct or reverse the mutations in ERVs, you end up with huge numbers of working proviruses in every nuclear cell of your body - in other words, you end up very, very dead, very, very quickly.
There is clear evidence that ERVs common to different species do indeed share common mutations, as Wood claims. See Shared mutations among ERVs in identical loci and the corroboratory nested hierarchies they fall into.
Perhaps the error that both parties make is the presuppositional assumption that they both make.
What was it now?
Yes, that was it: "Chimps and humans are unrelated."
An object lesson in how, when you start from a biased position and then try to "prove" it, never mind how much work you put into it, you end up failing to see even the most obvious problems with your ideas.
Lateral gene transfer is very common, much more common than previously believed. Gene sequences are proving to be less helpful
for determining phylogenetic linkages.
Our different chromosome numbers is a huge area of difference with apes. One researcher claims that there is no fusion chromosome to explain the difference. He reported very different gene sequences at the supposed fusion point. I cannot make a claim to agree or disagree since it’s very complex biochemistry that is under investigation.
@@sliglusamelius8578, lateral gene transfer does not transfer to common DNA loci. Common ancestry is the only known mechanism that explains common loci.
So much confidence in The Line Drawn. Why cant I draw the line?
The shortness of this videos in this series makes them introductory. But such lines aren't difficult to draw. The discontinuity, if it were gradual, would be a single or short difference between individuals. But if there are a dozen or two dozen differences between between any member in one group and a member in the other group, that is where the line can be drawn sensibly.
@@eugeneprewittforieat5073
Where do we draw the line at teeth when compared side by side?
Guys, please go and listen an actual evolutionary biologist about this. This guys is presenting specimens literally millions of years apart for comparison, he also he makes the statement that we are descended from apes, which just isn't so. We share a common ancestor millions of years ago. We are not descended from the great apes, if he is willing to distort that simple message, I believe he is either deceiving us, himself or both out of convenience in trying to understand the evolution/genesis naratives.
Christians can have a wide variety of viewpoints concerning creation, all irrelevant to accepting Christ as one's Savior. This is simply Science vs. Dogma.
The way I see it, God invented evolution.
And which god is that your variant or one of the 1000s of others that the other naked apes prefer ?
Oh but it's very relevant. The same Jesus you claim as savior quoted straight from Genesis quite a few times regarding it as fact and history.
If the Genesis account is not true, what does that say about Jesus, and the test of the Bible for that matter?
There's a reason why Genesis is the begining. Any building without foundation cannot stand.
According to Scripture death came as a consequence of man's sin, and for this reason Chris died on the cross; to save us from the penalty, power and ultimately the presence of sin.
Evolution says man came as a consequence of death through survival of the fittest. So why did Christ died for if we were to marry evolution and the Bible worldview?
Death is an enemy says the Bible, and enemy and a consequence of sin so sin is not perpetuated. Evolution paints death as a friend. A necessity for creation.
When we look at the Bible, death puts a stop to God's creation whereas in evolution, death brings about creation.
Whether or not you believe in God, you can't really marry these two complete opposite worldviews and expect it to make sense.
The penalty for sin is death.
Why would it be a punishment and a strange enemy if God used it to bring about creation? And why would Jesus die to give us eternal life, if death is part of God's plan and original ideal for man?
@@danmac5510
All apes as far as I know are naked 🤔 I've never see an ape wearing clothes. Maybe in a circus 😄
But considering context, I'm pretty sure Dan is talking about the God of the Bible, you know, the one that Christians worship. Seeing as it is mentioned a couple of times in his comments, and this is a christian video.
Well I'm still excited for the coming discoveries.....science n discoveries have just begun....just need patience as we see things unravel
Unravel.
As an artist I see things on design base perspective. I see animals as particular categories, some sway towards other kinds and may share features but that doesn’t mean they evolved from another. It would make more sense there way a designer who used his own ideas on various models. Say for birds there are birds dedicated to ground/ water use yet they are birds that fly. There are birds that cannot swim and if they tried will drown. Birds are in their own category which no other kind has wings although they do share features from lizards. Another example would be raccoons, they have humanoid hands. There seems to be no proof of cross- category evolution but countless evidence of evolution within the categories.
It's called convergent evolution. Different species can develop similar adaptations without inheriting it from a common ancestor. Insects, birds and bats all have wing but developed them differently.
There's not rules in natural selection that is a species already has an adaptation another can't acquire it. Penguins and seals both adapted to hunting in the water because that's where there was a food source to take advantage of. There are countless examples of it.
@@brendanl2580 oh yes I forget about bats, the only mammal with wings. Although the fossil record indicated they always had wings.
@@mrolas5683 scientists have a lot of nerve not being able to find fossils of every single rodent size mammal species from 60 million years ago...
@@brendanl2580 they got to 52 million I’m sure if they keep digging they will find those pesky transitional fossils
@@mrolas5683 they have countless ones already but theists will always ask for one more... If only they had the same standards of evidence for what they believe.
If/when they do find it would you be convinced? Or just demand a different transitional fossil?
Not all monkeys walk on four legs , their are other tipes that walk more upright than 4x4
Apparently the Motherland filled with some
Your ancestors may have come from apes...not mine.
Nope, yours came from an even more primitive version of slime...
Also..Why didnt apes,gorillas, keep evolving then?...God created....after their kind....after its kind....and Man,in HIS image
They did. We didn't evolve from grollias, we share a common ancestor that we both evolved from. Your ignorance to how evolution works isn't proof against it.
@@brendanl2580 and your ignorance to how God works through His Holy Spirit...is not proof against it..or rather Him,either...
@@brendanl2580 saw an APE with a Chinese menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of SoHo in the rain
He was looking for the place called Lee Ho Fooks
For to get a big dish of beef chow mein
@@Kate-wu9if I didn't say anything about God, let alone proof against him. I was just correcting your misunderstanding of evolution.
At the end of the day though there are mountains of evidence that support evolution. Regardless of what you or I believe the truth is the truth. If evidence and facts aren't the best metric for finding the truth what is?
@@sammyvh11 and here I would have thought they'd prefer the chicken...
Let me preface this comment by saying that I'm a 100% Genesis is true creationist. I will try to be as loving as I can in expressing my thoughts.
Sometimes Christians will produce videos that they would have been better off not producing. I'm sad to say this is one of those videos.
Normally videos produced by the channel "Is Genesis History" are very well made, informative, and gives the Christian excellent tools for effective apologetics. This video on the other hand leaves the viewer (at least in my case and probably others as well) wondering exactly which side of the issue the video is supporting.
The first half of this video is something I would expect from an Evolutionist channel. It seemingly gave more evidence for evolution than it did for creation. I know that's not what it was intended to do but that's definitely the way it turned out.
The video as a whole seemed to me like you put a whole bunch of different ideas into a blender and produced a video from the results. I'm sorry brothers but like I said this video creates more confusion (even where confusion didn't exist before watching the video) than it does clarity, and in my opinion is way below the quality I'm accustomed to seeing from you guys.
Godspeed in all you do
God bless Brothers.
Does the much older age of the human at death pre flood, affect some features of the human skeleton more, when compared to post flood humans after God shortened the lifespan of humans? Do some parts of the human skeleton keep growing throughout life?
@@BobSmith-ew5oi OK yeah and how are you're monkey friends doing do they care about you ?? Do they want to have you over for dinner talk about how they eat bugs off each other backs?
@@hj6004 You ROCK H J!!! Check out MY comment to this cheeky evilutionist(Bob Smith, what a simple name) I just wrote, I think you will like it!
You might as well as what color is Batman's underwear you're talkin about a fiction like it's real and matters. There isn't even enough water on Earth for Noah's flood in every square inch of land proves and never happened. There are two civilizations that predate Noah's flood that didn't seem to notice it happened. Why do you believe this fictional book over every scrap of reality. You know where the Bible came from it's unquestionably man-made and anonymously at that
The age old question is still unanswered... if man evolved from apes, why are there still apes?
IMO. man didn't evolve from apes but their DNA was used to improve on and perfect what God the creator needed to contain a spirit child. This is why we have what scientists call "the missing link". There never was a direct link between man and ape that is backed up by fossils.
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Not sure if this is supposed to be a joke but this "age old question" only gets asked by people who don't even have the most basic understanding of evolutionary biology and it gets answered on just about every introductory video about human evolution you can find on TH-cam.
@@nolanjohnson9744 There is no such thing as a "missing link" and scientists have known that for over a century now. The human family tree is not just a linear progression from monkeys to apes to humans. It is more like a bush with many branches and dead ends. The fossil record is chock full of transitional forms and with DNA we can show that humans share a common ancestor with chimps and bonobos. We can even show that this common ancestor lived about 7 million years ago. The Bible doesn't mention any of this because it is mythology made up by people who lived during the bronze age.
@@stephenbrand5661 You seemed to have a degree of intelligence until your last sentence where your ignorance shot all that down.
There has to be something really broken in the people that want so desperately to believe in evolution and a Godless world that they are driven to disprove God or creation theory instead of letting facts and ancient knowledge tell the story. They act like they're the enlightened ones for trying so hard to put us at the same level or even beneath other animals. The desire based masses that cannot allow a moral based belief system. A belief in God doesn't mean we aren't also on a spiritual journey or a scientific exploration of everything we can see or touch...
Watching TrainsGoBy Has it ever occurred you that these same "enlightened ones" were the people who actually gave you those trains that you watch go by? It sure wasn't "ancient knowledge" telling that story.
@@alanthompson8515 lol that must have made sense inside your head or you wouldn't have typed it out. But you left whatever part that made any sense in there. lol
In case you're trying to say that society and technology were built by atheists throughout history, WOW, did you miss the mark. Most of the hardest working and forward thinkers of all time were people of faith. AND YOU COPLETELY had to ignore the part of my original comment.... "OR A SCIENTIFIC EXPLORATION OF EVERYTHING WE CAN SEE OR TOUCH."
You must be all kinds of disturbed to think that all technology and innovation comes from only people that have no belief in God.
lol. And my comments about ancient knowledge pertain, to anyone with a sensible intellect, to the origins of mankind. Only someone a little underdeveloped on their own evolutionary chart would think I was attributing the creations of mankind to ancient knowledge and not understand I was talking about our creation/origins.
Isn't it amazing how a belief in God inspires us to learn more and more. Mostly because we believe and science keeps bearing it out, that our origins are creation based and not evolutionary. And at the same time, a disbelief in God keeps some people more closed minded and bent on finding ways to prove support their agenda instead of letting the facts speak for themself. More and more scientists are starting to believe in intellectual design. AS they examine cells and virus's and see how similar to machines they are. As they find more evidence that dna is not an accident and is in fact complicated and works potentially in 4 dimensions...
Why does this scare the evolutionists so much?
I will gguarentee that when the chips are down tHEY CALL ON GOD ...every time...and never al-lah..SEEN it in IRAQ HUNDREDS OF TIMES...THEY DENOUNCE AL-LAH..
@@norbertjendruschj9121 if you go ot the lib fools that have to stay in line to keep their jobs... REACH OUT A LITTLE FURTHER IN TO THE PUBLISHED ARTICLES AND SCIENTISTS THAT GET CENSORED FOR BEING HONEST... There's a lot that believe in it the more we learn. SO YOU'RE WRONG
@@alanthompson8515 the trains were designed which necessitates a designer.
I wish they would talk about elongated skulls
Another I heard but unsure about but I’ve heard that the human brow line and other features never stop growing so if in pre-flood times when there was no need what so ever for a green new deal, a time when man lived almost 1000 years. What would old man Adam’s skull look like?
Ape skull is a lot different than a man's skull, end of story
End of story
...for you, no further thought possible
9:30
It's good that creation scientists are finally admitting the science. Even the creationist in this video cannot deny that there are "startling" correspondences in the patterns of DNA in the biosphere, and that merely explaining them away by saying that "God did it that way" is "unsatisfying".
Evolution from star dust and a Big Bang "theory" is also unsatisfying, when there is zero evidence to prove said theory.
What created the star dust ?
What created the Big Bang ?
What created the atom molecule ?
conclusivelythe Big Bangtheory.
known to us (Isaiah 53), through His son Jesus to give us a deeper understanding of the world around us (John 16:33 & Psalm 51:5, Psalm 110:1 & Psalm 14:1).
believe
Not just "God did it that way", but the solid principle that the same designer uses the same principles and designs within different creations, with all together different purposes.
Think a motor, with all it's many applications.
@@kathleennorton6108 , perhaps, but the problem you have is that the Bible doesn't say any of that. God's creative principles are completely opaque to us, unless there is a bible verse that tells us about them. If it's not in scripture, we're just making stuff up.
@@erichodge567 The Bible plainly speaks about it at least 3 times.
Read your Bible.
@@kathleennorton6108 I think I asked for verses that describe the one system, many applications paradigm you talked about. Please tell me where those verses are. I'm not a scholar, so help me out. Exactly what are those verses?
Bob's wife here: Dont people groups all over the world have different types of brow bones? Some larger close to Neanderthals?
Key word- 'evolved'.
If indeed, we evolved from apes; then we would be digging up and examining their remains.
We would not be looking at them- and they looking back.
Perhaps the gorilla, in his infinite boredom, has found a way to enjoy his meal more than once?
Though i dont require any proof, i still get a big smile when human science proves scripture.
Still? Has that ever happened?
It's obvious that evolution is true. Look at the Model T, it evolved into the Ford F150. We just need to go to the salvage yard and look at the strata of autos.
Always listen to a man that takes skulls out of a backpack
What fascinating content. It makes sense that we can have fairly noticeable variation among our fellow human kind. We are made with clear adaptive abilities in order to better survive in our different environments. Evolution is such an intellectually dishonest worldview that censors the very evidence supporting the biblical narrative.
And the undeniable fact that all "races" of humankind can readily interbreed just blows the unprovable evolutionary hypothesis out of the water ..!!!!
@@paulreid2223 No it doesn't. Species separation (leading to the ability to interbreed) happens when two populations of the same species become separated, usually for geographical reasons such as becoming marooned on an island. Over time, the populations will become distinct from each other, eventually to the extent that interbreeding will either fail or will produce sterile offspring, such as with mules. Humanity, in contrast, became so mobile across regions, and more recently across the whole planet, that whatever different species might have been emerging (such as Neanderthals) have now interbred and merged. We are essentially now all one "race", globally. That is unusual in evolutionary terms, but it reflects how we have become the dominant form of life on this planet, and how mobile we have become, independent of geographical or climactic constraints. I suggest you look into this a little more. (And for context, I'm speaking as a christian myself.)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16 KJV
John 3:17, KJV: "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
How come the perfect being couldn't create a perfect system right from the get go?
It will happen brother, if we were in that "perfect sytem" right now then our sufferings here will be worthless since it's perfect. But the good news is our suffering here in this kind of world not be compared to the glory in heaven. We have free will, the first humans disobeyed God's commandment that we should not eat the fruit of knowledge, that's when sin and death came. But Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again so we can have eternal life through him. The bible says that God will wipe all our tears someday, there will be no more sorrow in heaven. The way to heaven is through Jesus Christ (John 14:6)
@@charlescacayan3675 I'm not suffering here I enjoy life on earth ..what makes your life a sufferance ?
Is it?
The bible tells us “If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first. The world would love you as one of its own if you belonged to it, but you are no longer part of the world. I chose you to come out of the world, so it hates you.
John 15:18-19 NLT
We can always expect mockery and hard times to us is if when God allows it so we can always lean unto him, that will make your faith stronger.the bible tells us that you cannot do anything against the truth, but for the truth. the bible also tells us that being friends with the world makes you an enemy of God.
Luke 15:7
I say to you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repents, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
But Jesus can forgive
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
What exactly makes your life a sufferance?...this is a question I ask you ...could you just answer it in your own words?
as I'm not talking to a bible but a person
...you
What I don’t understand is why Neanderthals are not around today, like why don’t we see people with skulls like that, did all the Neanderthals die?
You just explained that the non-neanderthal skull was from an animal that walked upright on two legs, and said it couldn't be one of the apes, monkeys, or chimpanzees, because their foramen magnun is in the back. If it walked upright, and wasn't one of the other three, and it's not human, than what is it?
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. "
Nephilim- (Hebrew: “nepilim”)
The term itself almost certainly means ‘fallen ones,’ whether morally fallen in the general sense or fallen from (i.e., cast out of) heaven in a more specific sense.
The word is used twice in scripture: Gen. 6:4 and Numbers 13:33
It has been plausibly proposed that the Nephilim were princes born into the royal houses of the ‘sons of God’ (Gen. 6:4) and that they were ‘the mighty tyrants who . . .esteemed their might to be their right.’
Certain Jewish exegetes have ingeniously assumed that the later Nephilim strain of Num 13:33 was preserved through the Flood in the persons of Noah’s daughters-in-law.
The literature of the intertestamental period, however, takes a different track. According to Sir 16:7 the ‘ancient giants’ were rebellious and deserved divine punishment. Wisd. 14:6 and Bar.3:26-28 are even more specific: The giants were destroyed by the Flood. If so, the later Nephilim were namesakes, not descendants, of their earlier counterparts.” (New International Dictionary of Old Testament Theology and Exegesis, 1997)
Virtually every ancient culture has an account of gods or star people or angels who produce offspring on the earth: Sumer, Assyria, Egypt, Incas, Mayans, Babylon, Persians, Greece, India, Bolivia, South Sea Islands, Sioux Indians.
That's exactly what I wss thinking when he said "intermarry"
I have a body and a pulse, also a personality. Remove anyone of these and I'm no longer me.
Yes, but your soul will still exist.
@@tabithadebolt1708 Where is there any proof that there actually is a soul. There certainly is plenty of R souls.
I think our limitations as to what defined what is a human being and what that would look like, was shackled by Charles Darwin's ideas as to what constitutes a full human being.
The dog parallel would be closer to the mark in that like dogs have a broad variation, so do humans.
Had Charles Darwin been a Poodle (apologies to Poodle lovers), Charles would not have seen Pit Bulls or Cocker Spaniels are being fully dog.
@David Davison ....though dogs and wolves are ultimately the same kind and no amount of time will allow the dog/wolf to evolve into a cat, or a possom. Imaging millions of years simply not a answer of the shrew to whale to cow evolution.
I didn't prove your point as mutations is a problem for Darwinian evolution, not a solution.
@David Davison I do know what a million years is... 1 year times a million. What a weird statement.
Seriously, the level of changes that are required in terms of re-engineering skeletons, lung design etc is substantial and you would also require to bring in new information into the genome. Mutations are a loss of information, damage to information.
I'm not against science just as the fathers of the modern scientific movement were not against science. People like Newton, Faraday, Mendel, Pasteur. Most of who were Biblical creationist...
Explain how discovering evidence for bacteria on Mars would rock my faith in the Bible ?
And the church has been 'jailing and killing people for two thousand years' over the subject of geocentrism v heliocentrism as you suggest - the church had no such authority in the first three centuries of its existence as it had no civil authority to do so. The church was persecuted for the first three centuries. And it did not jail or kill anyone from the 1700s for the heliocentric idea. In fact, it was a Biblical creationist, Galileo, that put forward the idea of heliocentrism. The core resistance against heliocentrism came from the academics who followed Aristotelian and Ptolemaic (ancient Greek) traditions and were the materialist of their day, secular humanist of sorts. They caused a division and that was brought before the Pope. Some Jesuits did try and advise the Pope that the heliocentric idea was of no theological consequence but the humanist won over the Pope. Background history 101.
Just remember, when you next buy milk and you read the label, 'Pastuerised', that was a creationist who developed that :-)
- take a rest and have a think...
Same type of conclusions a small child would make.
grow up then
I grew up long ago and gave up on the worlds of fantasy. PROVE IT!
Trying to disprove what you're holding in your hand (called facts and reality) with never prove your book right. Nor will it ever give evidence to supernature, or anything that supposedly comes from it. The fallacy of special pleading to a bigger mystery can never be any type of answer.
Evolution and religion both require faith, ergo, they are BOTH religion.
@@chriscarey1478 no faith needed. Evolution has been proven true.
@@rogerherron7718 that's why it's called the THEORY of evolution?
@@chriscarey1478 you're confusing your terms. A hypothesis and Theory are two different things. A theory in science is proven a hypothesis is a statement of what you are trying to prove. Gravity is a theory and is also true but can be refined as additional evidence comes in.
Newton hypothesis was gravity exist. Einstein refined Newton's theory.
@@rogerherron7718 gravity is not a force,it's a rate of dielectric acceleration. They can't even get that right.
Yea my faith has never been found fossils or evolution.
It's never been found period.
@@TMPreRaff And you know this how?You must be all knowing and all seeing,gifts from above I guess.
Hope you find what your looking for.Cheers!
A cook puts the same ingredients in many different dishes. Almost everything contains salt. Same seasoning, same deal applies to different creatures and humans.
@@patldennis Because human embryos have a yolk sac to provide nutrition for the early embryo, that's why humans have yolk sac genes, The yolk sac gets absorbed as the embryo develops.
Ok Dr Todd Wood. Tell where the line i that you say you can determine.