That lid gas stone thing is for quick carbonation. The small bubbles absorb faster. They also create a load of foam in your keg. It's said that the chemicals that make foam only do it once, so foaming in your keg means less stable foaming in your glass. It will absorb without this stone, it'll just take longer, like set and forget method CO2.
Thanks! I needed this! I was thinking that an inline wouldn't really have the same effect anyway because it has to be in the beer not part of the gas line. Right?
@@caseymckinley1253 I don't know what you mean, but I use the exact same set up for Nitro and CO2. I just swap the gas bottle over (with the adapter required for a CO2 regulator), increase the pressure to account for partial pressures, and put a perforated disk in the tap/faucet. Perfect Guiness style nitro pour with that thick creamy head.
A nice low-key overview. Thanks. You may have answered my one concern/thought at the end with your catch: THE LUBE. Is that for every connection including the screw-thread ones and the retracting-connector ones? I was thinking with the screw-thread ones especially the ones that would be maintained for a week or more could use Teflon tape which is food safe. Any thoughts?
Yeah, I heard the thing about longer beer lines for foaming reasons. I used to have loads of issues. Now I use about a meter of 3/16" on all my taps at about 15 PSI and get perfect pours. I use a nitro/CO2 mix on all my beers and use a perforated plate in my tap if I want it served Nitro style.
Interesting video and thank you.... ONE question that still remains for me..what is the difference between pulling the tap forward and pushing it backwards? In the video, you never explained what each action does and what the difference is when pouring? Thank you in advance, CC
This guy's a moron. He forgot that you're not supposed to touch the diffusion stone with your fingers because oil from your hands can clog the pores. You are supposed to boil after use, which would probably release the oil... So, whatever! Amirite!? No? Ok, then don't touch.
Not sure if it was mentioned but isn't it the case that the Nitro is also generally set at a much higher PSI than CO2 - something like 40+PSI so that it get's properly infused?
I was always told that you can't use a c02 regulator on a nitro tank even if the connection is for c02. the c02 reg won't display the correct pressures and they're not built to withstand the higher pressure either.
Hmmm... Yes, the pressure is different but not that far off. I regularly set my co2 tank above nitro serving pressure to quick carb. I also read an article in craft beer and brewing that seemed to suggest that you could use co2 regulator for nitro. Buuuut, never tried it, so don't quote me!
Nitrogen cylinders are higher pressure than CO2, and the regulators are designed to deal with that pressure. You can use a Nitro regulator on CO2 with an adapter. But you shouldn't use a CO2 regulator on Nitro.
Why did the beer gas tank have male threads on the valve? Every one I have ever seen has the female connection on the tank valve. I used a CO2 regulator rated at 2600 PSI and bought an adapter to use it.
Love your channel! What psi do you set your reg at for nitro, or does it depend on beer? Also - just a helpful tip, please don't use pipe pilers on brass fittings it damnages it. Use a cressent wrench, it fits all of them lol. Thanks guys. Hope to meet you one day if our world go back to normal...
Would the diffusion stone work for oxygenating big beers that shaking can’t get the right ppm for? Wondering out to connect the ball lock fitting to a cheap regulator to a cheap oxygen tank...
What % of Nitrogen do you get ? I'm surprising my dad with a Nitrogen setup for his kegerator for his vday and I dont know anything about the gas part other than my dad wanting it for his homebrew
The times 4 is because you have 25% co2 in the tank. Having a carb stone inside the keg also helps. Leave it set for a few days to achieve good results.
Why do you need the different taps for co2 vs nitro? Is it just because you can push it backwards and "top up" the glass? Also does this setup work for other nitro beverages like coffee?
Stout (nitro) faucets also have a little jet (restrictor) disk (looks like a shirt button) that slows the flow and agitates the beer as it passes through, creating the cascading head. If you have taps like Intertap that allow interchanging parts, you can also get a stout faucet attachment for cheaper that mimics a stout faucet. It includes the jet disk, but does not allow the same handle motion as an actual stout faucet. It also may be more prone to some leakage.
Do you need that special lid with the carbonating stone to use beer gas or can you run the gas the same way co2 is hooked up to a keg? Also do you lightly carbonate the beer before hooking up beer gas?
@@caseymckinley1253 do it the way Kyle is doing it. It's working great for me and don't carbonate your beer just hook up the beer gas and turn your pressure up 2 lb every 5 minutes until you get around 28 or 30 PSI
@@caseymckinley1253 I have a nitro system at home. I don't use a carb stone for it. Just carb your beer to about 1.0-1.5 vols on CO2 then hook up to nitro. Works fine for me.
So do you still need to carbonate the beer prior to doing this nitro set up? Before you answer, know that I only ever brew into bottles and I add sugar drops to carbonate. So my knowledge of carbonation in a keg is non-existent. I actually don't know how you carbonate a keg in the usual way, so hopefully this isn't painfully obvious.
Fun fact: you can nitrogenate beer using co2 only. When you add the co2, do not purge the air out as that leaves naturally occurring nitrogen from the atmosphere on top of the beer which makes it nitrogenated. Oxygenating the beer could be an adverse side effect however but then just drink the beer quick.
Bit over complicated. Just force carb to 1.0 vols of co2 with co2 then use beer gas to serve. Use secondary regs. A beer gas bottle has 3000psi in it. If the reg fails....
Using the Carbonation chart from Brewing Quality Beers by Byron Burch At a temperature of 43 degrees, 7 psi CO2 will result in 1.9 volumes, therefore: 7 psi CO2 X 4 = 28 psi of Beer Gas or about 30 PSI!
Great video; interesting information and idea ... I haven’t work with nitrogen since it doesn’t absorb into the beer as well, do you find the beer is flat (or is it getting the CO2 absorbed)? I was thinking about giving it a try, how do you like the regulator (It looks like the elite series from Kegco)?
My friend. I make beer in. Simple equipment and dry dinar grass, but without foam What is the secret of foam? Please, your friend from Syria answered me
Foam or "head" is heavily influenced by both carbonation and your ingredients. Very roughly more protein rich ingredients will influence your foam, wheat is often used to help boost head. I'm not familiar with dinar grass but I'm guessing it is your primary problem as it likely doesn't have a significant amount of protein compared to barley or wheat which is commonly used in Western brewing. I'm guessing western ingredients are not common there so you can try experimenting with your carbonation level to boost your head, so I wish you luck.
One Question remains open......… Why do you always think of your own ass, and never in the sense of homebrewing / homedistilling? what about civil disobedience?
No one's said it," this dude is an idiot"! On the reals you can attach a fancy antimicrobial vinyl hose to your gas post stub with a tight fit or stainless hoseclamp and the same to a carb stone (mid keg height) and skip the lid cost. I've been doing this on a pin lock set up and gas manifold for years no prob, 24hr carb times @30psi serving at 12, 3264' elevation 6' 3/16 hose.
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That lid gas stone thing is for quick carbonation. The small bubbles absorb faster. They also create a load of foam in your keg. It's said that the chemicals that make foam only do it once, so foaming in your keg means less stable foaming in your glass. It will absorb without this stone, it'll just take longer, like set and forget method CO2.
Thanks! I needed this! I was thinking that an inline wouldn't really have the same effect anyway because it has to be in the beer not part of the gas line. Right?
@@caseymckinley1253 I don't know what you mean, but I use the exact same set up for Nitro and CO2. I just swap the gas bottle over (with the adapter required for a CO2 regulator), increase the pressure to account for partial pressures, and put a perforated disk in the tap/faucet. Perfect Guiness style nitro pour with that thick creamy head.
Check out duotight fittings for your kegs. GAME. CHANGERS. Screw messing with barbs and trying to pull off hoses etc. Just push and forget.
A nice low-key overview. Thanks.
You may have answered my one concern/thought at the end with your catch: THE LUBE.
Is that for every connection including the screw-thread ones and the retracting-connector ones? I was thinking with the screw-thread ones especially the ones that would be maintained for a week or more could use Teflon tape which is food safe. Any thoughts?
Yeah, I heard the thing about longer beer lines for foaming reasons. I used to have loads of issues. Now I use about a meter of 3/16" on all my taps at about 15 PSI and get perfect pours. I use a nitro/CO2 mix on all my beers and use a perforated plate in my tap if I want it served Nitro style.
Interesting video and thank you....
ONE question that still remains for me..what is the difference between pulling the tap forward and pushing it backwards?
In the video, you never explained what each action does and what the difference is when pouring?
Thank you in advance,
CC
This guy's a moron. He forgot that you're not supposed to touch the diffusion stone with your fingers because oil from your hands can clog the pores. You are supposed to boil after use, which would probably release the oil... So, whatever! Amirite!? No? Ok, then don't touch.
Just bought a nitro setup. I understand nitro doesn't carbonate the beer. Whats the best way to carbonate when using nitro? Is it only for dispensing?
Force carb with co2 then just use 70/30 gas mix to serve.
what pressure do you use. have you tried just nitrogen, no mix. and have you use the stone with CO2 and beer.
Not sure if it was mentioned but isn't it the case that the Nitro is also generally set at a much higher PSI than CO2 - something like 40+PSI so that it get's properly infused?
Yes, 30-35 psi!
I was always told that you can't use a c02 regulator on a nitro tank even if the connection is for c02. the c02 reg won't display the correct pressures and they're not built to withstand the higher pressure either.
Hmmm... Yes, the pressure is different but not that far off. I regularly set my co2 tank above nitro serving pressure to quick carb. I also read an article in craft beer and brewing that seemed to suggest that you could use co2 regulator for nitro. Buuuut, never tried it, so don't quote me!
You could use a nitro regulator for co2 with the adapter, not the other way around, carful with high pressures
Nitrogen cylinders are higher pressure than CO2, and the regulators are designed to deal with that pressure. You can use a Nitro regulator on CO2 with an adapter. But you shouldn't use a CO2 regulator on Nitro.
Why did the beer gas tank have male threads on the valve? Every one I have ever seen has the female connection on the tank valve. I used a CO2 regulator rated at 2600 PSI and bought an adapter to use it.
Love your channel! What psi do you set your reg at for nitro, or does it depend on beer? Also - just a helpful tip, please don't use pipe pilers on brass fittings it damnages it. Use a cressent wrench, it fits all of them lol. Thanks guys. Hope to meet you one day if our world go back to normal...
@Turner Danny yup, I've been watching on instaflixxer for months myself :)
@@turnerdanny6762 Nice try bud.
Would the diffusion stone work for oxygenating big beers that shaking can’t get the right ppm for? Wondering out to connect the ball lock fitting to a cheap regulator to a cheap oxygen tank...
Yes
Don't touch the stone. Oils from your skinn will easily clog it.
Oh damn it. I totally forgot about that.
I cant find beer gas tank in my country all i can find is pure N2 tank will it work? what if i mix them in the keg co2 and N2?
I love you guys videos please keep them coming! how do you mix the nitro & C02 or do you buy it mixed?
You buy it mixed. the mix is called "beer gas."
you can mix it with blenders, but they are expensive to purchase
Those metal keg connects look niiice, might have to check those out if they are working well.
For the low low price of $25, you too can try a pair! They're expensive, but so is a tank of leaked gas, so i'd say probably worth it.
@@ClawhammerSupply yeah and I’m assuming they will outlast any plastic connects I would have to buy in the years to come. Thanks!
HI Do you know the size of the Nitrogen regulator stem and thread size.
I have seen 1/2 x 26 and 1/2 x 27 very confusing. thanks
Generally kegs can handle 60psi... which maxes out most regulators
What % of Nitrogen do you get ? I'm surprising my dad with a Nitrogen setup for his kegerator for his vday and I dont know anything about the gas part other than my dad wanting it for his homebrew
The times 4 is because you have 25% co2 in the tank. Having a carb stone inside the keg also helps. Leave it set for a few days to achieve good results.
Why do you need the different taps for co2 vs nitro? Is it just because you can push it backwards and "top up" the glass? Also does this setup work for other nitro beverages like coffee?
Stout (nitro) faucets also have a little jet (restrictor) disk (looks like a shirt button) that slows the flow and agitates the beer as it passes through, creating the cascading head.
If you have taps like Intertap that allow interchanging parts, you can also get a stout faucet attachment for cheaper that mimics a stout faucet. It includes the jet disk, but does not allow the same handle motion as an actual stout faucet. It also may be more prone to some leakage.
It creates turbulence inside of it, helps to create more foam
Do you need that special lid with the carbonating stone to use beer gas or can you run the gas the same way co2 is hooked up to a keg? Also do you lightly carbonate the beer before hooking up beer gas?
I wish someone would have answered this, lol. I need to know the same.
@@caseymckinley1253 do it the way Kyle is doing it. It's working great for me and don't carbonate your beer just hook up the beer gas and turn your pressure up 2 lb every 5 minutes until you get around 28 or 30 PSI
@aaron woloszyn Problem is that I have a ball keg and it has no option to add a in tank carbonation stone.
@@caseymckinley1253 I have a nitro system at home. I don't use a carb stone for it. Just carb your beer to about 1.0-1.5 vols on CO2 then hook up to nitro. Works fine for me.
So force carbonate it with 1.0-1.5 vols of co2 then use the nitro gas mix for serving?
Whats the intro song to this video ??
So do you still need to carbonate the beer prior to doing this nitro set up? Before you answer, know that I only ever brew into bottles and I add sugar drops to carbonate. So my knowledge of carbonation in a keg is non-existent. I actually don't know how you carbonate a keg in the usual way, so hopefully this isn't painfully obvious.
Fun fact: you can nitrogenate beer using co2 only. When you add the co2, do not purge the air out as that leaves naturally occurring nitrogen from the atmosphere on top of the beer which makes it nitrogenated. Oxygenating the beer could be an adverse side effect however but then just drink the beer quick.
Bit over complicated. Just force carb to 1.0 vols of co2 with co2 then use beer gas to serve. Use secondary regs. A beer gas bottle has 3000psi in it. If the reg fails....
Super!
how does it know to pour nitro?
Are we talking beer tap singularity here? Beer sentience?
@@ClawhammerSupply how does the tap know to poor nitro...?
@@davidbeiler6364 Ha!
Using the Carbonation chart from Brewing Quality Beers by Byron Burch
At a temperature of 43 degrees, 7 psi CO2 will result in 1.9 volumes, therefore:
7 psi CO2 X 4 = 28 psi of Beer Gas
or about 30 PSI!
Great video; interesting information and idea ... I haven’t work with nitrogen since it doesn’t absorb into the beer as well, do you find the beer is flat (or is it getting the CO2 absorbed)? I was thinking about giving it a try, how do you like the regulator (It looks like the elite series from Kegco)?
It definitely has a "flatter" mouth feel, but it's so creamy and smooth!
@@ClawhammerSupply Way better than Co2!
It’s like you guys are in my head..
Rasping, we only did this video because you suggested it. Remember?
@@ClawhammerSupply wait, I don’t know if you guys are being serious or not. Either way, very much appreciated.
You can’t use the carb stone to serve because it releases the co2 too slow. Unless you only drink 2 beers in a sitting but who tf doing that?
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My friend. I make beer in. Simple equipment and dry dinar grass, but without foam What is the secret of foam? Please, your friend from Syria answered me
Foam or "head" is heavily influenced by both carbonation and your ingredients. Very roughly more protein rich ingredients will influence your foam, wheat is often used to help boost head. I'm not familiar with dinar grass but I'm guessing it is your primary problem as it likely doesn't have a significant amount of protein compared to barley or wheat which is commonly used in Western brewing. I'm guessing western ingredients are not common there so you can try experimenting with your carbonation level to boost your head, so I wish you luck.
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Anyone else audibly gasp when he pulled out those channel locks?
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Using carb stone to push beer runs the risk of gas running out and pressure in keg pushing beer through and into your tank... duh
Just add a checkvalve.
Knowledge bombs
No washer not only means losing money, but if you're using the setup at home, know that breathing too much CO2 is VERY DEADLY!!!
One Question remains open......… Why do you always think of your own ass, and never in the sense of homebrewing / homedistilling? what about civil disobedience?
No one's said it," this dude is an idiot"! On the reals you can attach a fancy antimicrobial vinyl hose to your gas post stub with a tight fit or stainless hoseclamp and the same to a carb stone (mid keg height) and skip the lid cost. I've been doing this on a pin lock set up and gas manifold for years no prob, 24hr carb times @30psi serving at 12, 3264' elevation 6' 3/16 hose.