its been now 4 yrs how about a follow up? love your channel been in the industry for yrs and still learning new things daily how bout a performance list? i dont want to install the one that failed first
Fluid applied seems to be a winner. Even the Zip System is really fluid applied at the factory. Apparently Tremco’s ExoAir 220 (black) is the leader in nail sealing, however in the previous blog on WRB, Tremco's ExoAir 230 (limestone color) was mentioned as a leader. I noted the 230 data sheet suggests UV resistance and window sealing capabilities that the 220 does not.
For those of you that want a follow up on this - the team Matt worked with has a website at - buildingdx.com/people/durability-lab-austin-texas/. It appears they have published some findings in “Construction Specifier” journal - there are some helpful links on the site
We’ve seen the Zip failure at the roof to wall where there should be a kickout. Every product will fail when moisture attacks from behind or is held on the face at the battens or at clogged screens.
It is good to see real science being applied to building materials! The test is obviously good but the samples will only get one type of climate which is based on the tests location. The results are going to be very accurate but it will take time and patience. We have a lot of issues with materials where I live with heavy rain, winds and temperature from -40C to 36C.
Love it, thank you Matt. I have a question. When I put my chosen barrier up on my sheathing what happens when I nail my siding to it. I mean I guess the liquid barriers will hug the fastener but I don't know that. Like you said you never get to inspect it because it is covered up.
Grant Tanner There's no clear winner, but in my opinion, the ZIP system is pretty solid, as well as Polyguard's Alum-A-Flash, since they both looked nearly perfect after baking in the Austin sun for 2 years. Here's the link to Matt's blog post: mattrisinger.com/fluid-applied-wrb-testing/
how do you wrap concrete? mostly for the water proofing, because I Assume its already air tight. My dad put tar, but unfortunately he passed away recently and didnt get a chance to complete it, so its half tared up. Is there something that can I can spray on top of that will go over the existing tar? the tar was applied 10+ years old and has been exposed to the elements since. no cracking what so ever other than a little discoloration. he just had too many DIY projects. any products to google would be great!
I would think more tar if it's still in good condition after 10 plus years ago ? Over the tar, maybe an oil based paint if that's what you're asking ? Also sorry about your loss, mom passed away 6 months ago and it was Pancreatic Cancer, suffered like crazy. :(
This product seems to be taking off here in Ireland, made in Germany one would think they have a 'Belt and Braces' approach to construction...might be worth a look at regarding concrete tanking or other substrates.. i'm going to use same for a quick emergency repair on some broken roof tiles... botament.com/en/microsites/rd-1-universal.html
Bardia Ghajari A concrete contractor I worked for used a liquid applied concrete waterproofer that is bombproof. It comes in a variety of viscosities from trowelable to paintable to sprayable ( the last realy should be left to pros. Its called KLM5000 and is made by sonneborn. Its about 150.00 for 5 gallons its a petroleum based product and it can even be thinned down before applying so it rolls on better. It really needs thorough stirring b4 use and I strongly suggest a tyvek suit, rubber gloves, booties and dress down underneath the tyvek - its messy. You can roll it on just like paint. Directions recommend 2 coats for waterproofing. It can be used even for fish ponds since it becomea inert once dry. I did a roof with it years ago (wood) under a deck to waterproof another area beneath - not a drop! Direct exposure to u.v. may be an issue over time but there are 2 solutions to that 1. Roll roofing felt down onto it while wet and this blocks uv or 2 just check it in say 10 yrs for need of a 2nd coat. Ive never seen this stuff not work read label for thinners (I think it was denatured alcohol but says which on label). Good luck.
ill give the manifacture a call and see what they have to say for my application, thank you for the link. This type of consistency is what I was hoping for. thanks!
@ James Are you sure that is the model number? I Don't see it on google. I will search their site again @ August. Sorry for your loss. where there is tar it does look like its in good shape. but who knows I think i will have to bring in an expert.
Kool Seal White Elastomeric Roof Coating forms a thick rubber-like blanket for protection against moisture and its low voc. Poor mans fluid applied barrier. Id like to see them test simple roof coatings.
I admire the way your show has progressed
its been now 4 yrs how about a follow up? love your channel been in the industry for yrs and still learning new things daily how bout a performance list? i dont want to install the one that failed first
Fluid applied seems to be a winner. Even the Zip System is really fluid applied at the factory. Apparently Tremco’s ExoAir 220 (black) is the leader in nail sealing, however in the previous blog on WRB, Tremco's ExoAir 230 (limestone color) was mentioned as a leader. I noted the 230 data sheet suggests UV resistance and window sealing capabilities that the 220 does not.
For those of you that want a follow up on this - the team Matt worked with has a website at - buildingdx.com/people/durability-lab-austin-texas/. It appears they have published some findings in “Construction Specifier” journal - there are some helpful links on the site
So, what are the best-performing products?
I didnt hear any recommendations based on the variety of liquid applied barriers. What were your findings???
It would be awesome to hear an update of this testing since it has been nearly 4 years since this video was made. :)
Agreed.
@@andrewschmidt7016 link redirects to several url and ends up asking to install adobe flash... seems like adware malware scam
How about 9 years later
Video with no recommendations….. very helpful
Great video Matt, they do some great work at the JJ Pickle Research Center
Which ones test the best?
We’ve seen the Zip failure at the roof to wall where there should be a kickout. Every product will fail when moisture attacks from behind or is held on the face at the battens or at clogged screens.
It is good to see real science being applied to building materials!
The test is obviously good but the samples will only get one type of climate which is based on the tests location. The results are going to be very accurate but it will take time and patience.
We have a lot of issues with materials where I live with heavy rain, winds and temperature from -40C to 36C.
Ye they need to replicate the test in different climate zones around the country.
Nice intro.....but which one's are winners? Great vids overall:)
Could’ve heard a lot more from this guy!
Love it, thank you Matt. I have a question. When I put my chosen barrier up on my sheathing what happens when I nail my siding to it. I mean I guess the liquid barriers will hug the fastener but I don't know that. Like you said you never get to inspect it because it is covered up.
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Any Updates On Durability From These Materials, Since The Video Is Now 8 Years Old ???
Thanks For The Awesome Videos.
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Nice video but it didn't tell us which one's the best results
Awesome Video Matt!
Very neat study. So what's your take away? Do you have a new favorite WRB?
Check my blog for a post with the same title. I've got a more in depth review of the specific products. Thanks, Matt
Grant Tanner There's no clear winner, but in my opinion, the ZIP system is pretty solid, as well as Polyguard's Alum-A-Flash, since they both looked nearly perfect after baking in the Austin sun for 2 years. Here's the link to Matt's blog post: mattrisinger.com/fluid-applied-wrb-testing/
how do you wrap concrete? mostly for the water proofing, because I Assume its already air tight. My dad put tar, but unfortunately he passed away recently and didnt get a chance to complete it, so its half tared up. Is there something that can I can spray on top of that will go over the existing tar? the tar was applied 10+ years old and has been exposed to the elements since. no cracking what so ever other than a little discoloration. he just had too many DIY projects. any products to google would be great!
I would think more tar if it's still in good condition after 10 plus years ago ? Over the tar, maybe an oil based paint if that's what you're asking ? Also sorry about your loss, mom passed away 6 months ago and it was Pancreatic Cancer, suffered like crazy. :(
This product seems to be taking off here in Ireland, made in Germany one would think they have a 'Belt and Braces' approach to construction...might be worth a look at regarding concrete tanking or other substrates.. i'm going to use same for a quick emergency repair on some broken roof tiles... botament.com/en/microsites/rd-1-universal.html
Bardia Ghajari A concrete contractor I worked for used a liquid applied concrete waterproofer that is bombproof. It comes in a variety of viscosities from trowelable to paintable to sprayable ( the last realy should be left to pros. Its called KLM5000 and is made by sonneborn. Its about 150.00 for 5 gallons its a petroleum based product and it can even be thinned down before applying so it rolls on better. It really needs thorough stirring b4 use and I strongly suggest a tyvek suit, rubber gloves, booties and dress down underneath the tyvek - its messy. You can roll it on just like paint. Directions recommend 2 coats for waterproofing. It can be used even for fish ponds since it becomea inert once dry. I did a roof with it years ago (wood) under a deck to waterproof another area beneath - not a drop! Direct exposure to u.v. may be an issue over time but there are 2 solutions to that 1. Roll roofing felt down onto it while wet and this blocks uv or 2 just check it in say 10 yrs for need of a 2nd coat. Ive never seen this stuff not work read label for thinners (I think it was denatured alcohol but says which on label). Good luck.
ill give the manifacture a call and see what they have to say for my application, thank you for the link. This type of consistency is what I was hoping for. thanks!
@ James Are you sure that is the model number? I Don't see it on google. I will search their site again
@ August. Sorry for your loss. where there is tar it does look like its in good shape. but who knows I think i will have to bring in an expert.
What liquid would be best for aluminum siding applied in or outside?
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I wonder If PolyWall and Tyvak would work well with Each Other
What do you think Matt
How long is this experiment designed to continue until they will have accurate results? Is this something they will study for a decade or two?
I wonder if these tests are as valid as they seem, given no UV barrier is used?
Half of each sample was covered up with cladding after the first yr. So they all have samples protected against uv.
Kool Seal White Elastomeric Roof Coating forms a thick rubber-like blanket for protection against moisture and its low voc. Poor mans fluid applied barrier. Id like to see them test simple roof coatings.
I've often wondered why more people haven't tried this. Do you have any experience using Roof Coating as a WRB? How does it hold up over time?
I'd like to see what they look like now 5 years later
Follow up please!!
Anyone know if possible get poly wall in CT, any info helps Thanks
Which is the winner?!?!?
Awesome. Thank you. Raphael
UP Date Please .....
Cmon matt. Wheres the results. Click baity
Well this was useless... fluid applied barriers exist. Cool.