Hi All, a mistake on my part in a statement during this video. Without spoiling any content, the name we mention that's deciphered at the end of a certain book, was actually at the beginning. Thanks a lot and my apologies. Have a good one!
Have you considered a video about the Orpheus and the king and yellow and howndit may actually pertain to Alpharius and the alpha legion acting out the Orpheus Protocol which is to fight chaos directly? It's left up in the air with Pesh locked in stasis by John but I had a feeling that Pesh is actually Alpharius and has been from the start. Also not completely convince though it's been "confirmed" that Omegon died but could he have possibly ascended or at least given himself over to chaos before being killed by Dorn which would allow him to come back in DP form and fight loyal Alpharius?
I think Valdor is all about retaking the city of Calastar in the webway. Then he if he can hold and refortify it, with his army that seems perfectly created to do just this, a choke point could be created away from Terra and the Emperor could leave the throne without chaos busting through the webway. At least this is my understanding, that the ancient city of Calaster (created by the Eldar) is on the Terra side of the breach that Magnus made so that holding and fortifying Calastar effectively protects Terra. But if you look at Valdor's army, it seems the perfect army to actually hold it. Also, Valdor was there in the war of the webway so he has 1st hand knowledge of what type of army it would take to hold it.
@@bensugden1586 Take the Emperor off the throne and allow him to come back as a perpetual. The throne keeps the Emp going but the Emp keeps the throne going too. His deaths "power" the throne sort of which brings him back as is and not a full return via perpetual means. OR.... I am really just guessing now but it makes sense to me. Valdor seeing the future knows exactly what needs to happen to bring the Emperor back and also knows about the Star Child, that aspect of the Emperor (his love, kindness, etc.) that he cut away from his psyche before battling Horus. So there is a shard of the Emperor out there, the Star Child, that is all of the empathy and love of the Emperor. Shedding this part could allow the Emp to survive in hell for 10k years and not be tainted/corrupted by the experience. It is as if his logical unemotional aspects are doing what must be done on the Golden Throne while his humanity was set aside to be protected. So some sort of reunification with that shard could help the Emperor to return, much like Janus has the Shard of Magnus that was all his nobility and better parts.
@@kccustodes2618 If that part of the Emperor still exists in the Warp the forces of Chaos would surely be obsessed with finding and destroying it. How would a warp entity of such power hide itself?
@@headlibrarian1996if the chaos gods focus their own attention on that fragment it gives the throne emperor reprieve for even the fewest seconds (seconds in the warp are different than the real space ) Most likely the chaos gods have sent forces to find it or the fragment is hidden somewhere in real space or going where ever the saints go.
What valdor sees in Abaddon’s blood is not merely the future. He sees chaos enslaved and controlled, harnessed by the will of one singular being: "The Despoiler".
Not read it yet and I am really not sure what to make of that. It sounds ominous in a very cool way but will GW actually do something with this or is it just a throw away line?
@@kccustodes2618 it simply support the character of Ezekyle Abaddon, that GW and the authors of BL has shown and told us about for years, but that sooo many fans refuse to understand because "Failbaddon"... A lie meme narrative!
@@licensed_beheader the Night Lords trilogy is infamously shown from Talos's pov. If one rereads his interaction with Abaddon and looks beyond his biased viewpoint, Abaddon comes of quite well. (ADB has repeatedly talked about this in interviews even) Besides, people have claimed something similar to your take for decades.... The opposite has happened, as Abaddon’s semi-independence from Chaos has only been further highlighted and underscored.
Maybe what Valdor is building as the King in Yellow, is in fact an army capable enough that he can push back the demons in the webway from Terra, allowing the golden throne to be vacated when the time is necessary, and possibly....allowing the Emperor to do his perpetual thing and come back to life....just a musing is all.
Definitely could be mate, that's a great point. We also go into more detail on possibilities in this video if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
Yes, I always wondered why the Emperor as a Perpetual can't just briefly die and come back to life renewed. How long would it take? They can't get a ton of psyjers together and power the Golden Throne and the Astronomican without him for, like, an hour? 5 minutes?
I don’t think it would go that far but pushing back the deamons would give the emperor more power I’m other areas maybe he could use that power to boost the astronomicon letting it shine though the maelstrom and into imperial nihils
I want Valdor to take his army to Terra and make his way past his brothers to the throne room, gently poking the emperor with the spear and saying “no more secrets, no more half truths….no more lies”. The emperor knew he would do this eventually and through the spear he sees the memories of the emperor talking to himself but in actuality talking to Valdor….something like he did with Cawl
@@gabrielmagister6072 Is it just me or does Abnett come off as down playing Custodes (and all things related to them)? Like they are not his creations, or something he even likes, so they end up feeling a bit lacking? I would have to take a moment and think on this, but I am pretty sure none of the Custodes lore that made me a huge fan of that faction was penned by Abnett. In fact, some of the most "meh" Custodes moments are from him.
@@kccustodes2618 I doubt Abnett hates them; just that his vision of a custodes doesn't match the oft quoted "Custodes is to a Space Marine as a Space Marine is to a standard human". If I recall even in his earliest offerings he always seemed to depict Custodes as being only marginally better than a Space Marine.
@maltheri9833 I know the scenes you're talking about. I can't go into spoilers but I'm referring to his battlefield decision making during his fight against the Sons of Horus and Word Bearers.
I wonder if its possible Valdor gave The Emperor a little pokey pokey before he left terra. On the brink of death, that much knowledge from his blood would be priceless
from what i know custodies genes are not spliced with any other beings genes like the Astarties , they retain their human genes from birth , only that it is enhanced beyond even astarties gene , they are pure humans ,where astarties genes are spliced with their primarch's gene ,thats why the custodies creation is far far harder then astarties as each one is completely unique and cant be replicated. so maybe the emperor sought out valdor becoz he was a perpetual, maybe the emperor as a perpetual himself sensed the birth of valdor another perpetual and moved heavens and earth to get him to be his captain general .... i cant think of a better person to put as your captain general then a being that will be reborn endlessly and cant die. also it is noted that the emperor did not foresee after the heresy, his custodies asked him what to do and he said the most terrifying sentence a ruler can say to his people :" i dont know" valdor was there (probably) and i guess he decided to take things into his hands to save his king's domain .
I really do not think Valdor is a perpetual, but I think the Emperor maybe have found some aspect of the perpetual gene and that is why Custodes do not grow old. A Custodes will effectively be at top physical condition forever but they end up retiring to become "Eyes of the Emperor", creating their own spy networks and relaying it all back the Captain General, this networked supposedly helps alot in the current Tyranid threat to Terra but I am waiting on novels to fully develop this. Anyways, Custodes only retire because they have gotten slower because of injury and only die due to injury, never from just old age.
@@kccustodes2618 i dont think there is a special gene in the custodies in one of the storys ,one mother stole some food when the emperor's forces were handing out food and her punishment was death (naturally) ,she pleaded for her son , and the custodies told her that they will take care of him , he became a custody ,so i dont think there is something special about them , its just that valdor is so special ,the emperor sought him out himself ........the question is why
@@fouzaialaa7962 In 8th ed Codex, it says Custodes are taken as infants and have their DNA enhanced. They do not have extra organs and stuff like the Astartes, they are just gene enhanced to the maximum human potential and perpetual is very rare genetics. The fact that Custodes do not age makes me think that maybe the Emperor discovered at least that part of the perpetual gene. As for Valdor himself, that is about as vague as can be to the reason why he was chosen. But it is stated that the Emperor risked everything to get Valdor. Oh, it also says something in the Codex like the unlocking of their genetics seems like unlocking an aspect of their souls (or something like that). It makes it sound that to make a Custodes it enhancing their genes so deep it is like improving their very souls.
Valdor better bring his army to go back into the webway and complete the job the emperor couldn’t and that would give the Big E enough time to recover since he won’t have to seal the web way
@@kccustodes2618 yea- I don’t mean close the webway but it wouldn’t be filled with all the warp demons anymore cuz Valdor would’ve killed everything and then it would be more stable so the Big E wouldn’t have to use all his focus sealing it like he is now.
i think possibly the Custodian were closest 30k humanity ever gotten to a "made" Race of Golden Men thru gene crafting. i wouldnot say Valdor is to the Custodes as Primarch to their respective Astartes, but each Custodes is a unique one piece work of art that require skillful artisan hands, while Primarch are made to mass manufacture Astartes, similar to analogy of a Swiss Artisan watch vs mass produced Quartz watch analogy
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He’s a custodian. The first custodian. Making him a perpetual would be redundant (like they did with Vulkan which I still think is madness) of course he could shrug off those injuries.
You're forgetting previous lore. Before these books came out, it is constantly said through the lore that when the faithful die, they join the Emperor as an army, which will end up fighting Chaos. Probably a misinterpreted divination, actually meaning Valdors Empire.
I really hope we get a whole new addition to the custodes army line from the king in yellow. Id be so flipping happy getting winged terminators and blank battle line models.
He must be a perpetual. Can we start a discussion in the 40K lore community about why perpetuals exist at all? Immortality is sought by so many in the setting, and it is seemingly impossible to achieve. Even the Eldar are now bound to their soul stones. So why are some very rare humans perpetuals like this, but no one else? The only solution I can see is that it is due to the Old Ones. But again... Why?
From what I understand, perpetuals are a possible evolution of humankind (or other races). The fact that there are perpetuals is a rare genetic trait, much rarer than psychics even. I believe I saw a comment somewhere about a novel I had not read that said something along the lines of, "The Emperor wanted to get humanity into the webway so that they could evolve into a superior psychic race free from the tampering of chaos". That goes along with idea the humans were seeded by the old ones.
That part about turning humans into a "superior psychic race" was always confusing to me. How is that even possible in the webway? Isn't the point of webway in being "not-warp", i.e. the space , that has no connection to it? How does one even develop an understanding of psychic powers if there's no way to tap into the source of said powers?...
If their new custodes army introduced, maybe this is GW's way of releasing larger custodes models like the primaris, feels similar to the belasarous cawl army creation
@user-el1cj1do1j Hi Mate, I appreciate your enthusiasm and love for the lore but let's keep it nice please. There's a lot of lore within 40k which has been built out over decades and I'd bet my next paycheck that nobody on earth knows every detail.
In the End and the Death Volume 2, Malcador witnesses the Emperor jettisoning a fragment of his essence into the Inevitable City enroute to Horus after refusing to become the Dark King. I believe Leman Russ and Valdor's quest is to recover this fragment (which may have his name?). Russ and Valdor are bound together by the Two Metaphysical Blades.
Supposedly some lore snippets point out cave paintings of Custodes long before Valdors birth implying the emperor's been making custodes before Valdors but Valdors is simply the first of Legion's men I.E the old ones either gave up leadership or stayed guards and chose duty over glory
@@XraynPR don't remember but it stuck out as odd when looking through custodes lore but my gander is it's implying Hercules Goliath and Achilles may have all been gene modded and basically proto custodes it was less ominous and more the emperor's has been perfecting his art for centuries Which in 40k an explanation like hey all the heroes of yore are just people who have malleable genes and Big E might have been like yo let me help you be better. But at that point this is just speculation and probably why custodes were so hard to make in the past because he didn't grow them in a tube he took normal people who could survive gene alchemy and made them better.
Correction: the City of Dust exists in the warp and is not in the webway. Bequin literally sees the eye of terror in the distance at one point while exploring it.
@@titanwargaming Sure but the webway are like tunnels. You don't normally see through the walls to the outside. In the Bequin novel she is in a vast emptyness like being in space and can see the Eye of Terror in one direction and the Astronomicon/Emperor in another (she gets sunburn from the light from him). She also sees the tides of the warp as a 'sea'. The webway has some large tunnel sections big enough for spacecraft to travel down but nothing so big that there aren't visible walls. It seems very obvious to me that it is in the warp (protected by the runes and nulls) and not the webway.
Those are some great points mate, thank you. Given the descriptions of the city of dust like you've mentioned as well as how massive Thermysan is, I really hope we learn more detail about it in the third novel. I don't think I've ever been as fascinated by a location like that in any other franchise.
I'm currently in the rabbit hole audiobooks and lore vids, so I'll quote what comes to mind. This, I think, is from Master of Mankind, paraphrased: Each Custodies is a work of art, unique, crafted to the individual's genome, infused with the Master of Mankind's own genetic prowess. Constantine is to the Emperor as a favorite work of art as much as a favorite confidante, and so chooses to visit Constantine in his dreams.
Maybe valdor is a vessel for the star child (the part the emp threw away in order to fight Horus) and emp/ malc had forseen this, that’s why he is in the webway ever since? Or he’s special because the emp is currently „transforming“ his persona / might into him, like the „shamans“ did back in the day, because he is the „perfect“ vessel (would make sense since the emp is deteriorating but not dying)? Edit: maybe that’s what he has seen in Abbadons blood, he’s supposed to be the „vessel“ but doesn’t want to so he chills in the webway and empi is fugged because of that 😅
Short on time but does it have anything to do with how Horus spoke all of Dusk's names and gained controlled over him? Was think maybe he's been controlled with his because of the book bequin found
Small nitpick, but Kyril Sindermann wasn't a remembrancer, he was an iterator. I see him get lumped in with the remembrancers a lot because they were ultimately treated the same by Horus, but there is a distinct difference.
A giant Golden fleet is interesting. Maybe Valdor has found a way to restore the emperor and plans to go to Terra and Extract the Emperor from the Golden Throne for a duration, essentially shutting down warp travel but has a fleet capable traversing pocket dimensions. As soon as the Emperor is off that throne it'd be literal Chaos, so it'd make sense to have a massive fleet capable of some sort of escape or defense temporarily.
That's certainly true mate, we go more in depth into the King In Yellow's realm and servants here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
I will say that granting Valdor Perpetual status would help alleviate the loss of the King in Yellow being a Primarch. I’m a Dornite through and through, so my hope was KiY to be the Return of Dorn.. but you have me convinced that Valdor makes a better selection. Primarch Perpetual Valdor. Something we have seen through Vulkan. It’s not outside the realm of possibility.
If Valdor failed his first duty i think he would fall upon his second duty. Avenge the Emporer. This is a fleet he is building in the webway. Not just a fleet but also fulfilling the emporers dreams which were his goals before.
Constantin Valdor is the ONLY BEGOTTEN son of the emperor. And that is very significant. He was conceived naturally and wasn't some experiment. He probably kept this a secret from everyone even from Valdor. I just know constantin is very special.😊
what if valdor is a "true born" son of the emporer?, "Sensei's" i think the older lore called them. what if valdor is one of the emps actual ballz deep "cheeks slayin" required process kinda children (Imagine...... Big E got Erda on nothin but her knees n elbows with a deep arch just diggin er out n rearranging shit. If u nome saying) , and knew the importance of valdor far into the future. and what if valdor was a perpetual "sensei" but had very little physical and psychic enhancements that the othwer sensei's had but with Big D uh...... i mean Big E knowing or sensing the literal galaxy saving importance of valdor he used his already existing gene crafting knowledge or learned himself that shit so he could make valdor into the alpha, omega, sigma, giga chaldor that would one day save the universe. i dunno, but shit one can dream cant he?
@@rungfang27 pfffft what???? actin like its my extremely thought out and meticulously detailed fantasty head cannon origin story/pxrno infatuation thats permanantly hardlocked into my spankbank. and that my 3D hentai plug may have some shit in the works, cause it aint , and i dont. is thatr what ur trying to insinuate?????????.
The bequin trilogy and DA's work in general is about how not everything is how it seems. The second book ends in a line long revelation that the king in yellow's name is Konstantin Valdor. However, it's very unlikely that the King in Yellow is actually Konstantin Valdor, the original leader of the custodes Could just as well be someone pretending to be KV. It's not even stated specifically that the name in the book is the King in Yellow's name. It's not properly defined that the book contains only the name, maybe it's a sentence starting with the name. Nothing is in the books yet, so jumping to conclusions based on the tiniest hints is absolutely bonkers. No one knows who the king in yellow is but you've already given the motive in their existence.
This is not going to end well sadly. Lillian Chase has discovered Valdor's full name and Basilio Fo has likely hijacked whatever Valdor was hoping to achieve by controlling him through his true name. That is my best guest based upon what Abnett has written to date.
Valdor is the emperor and Erdas biological and only true son consummated and birn before the emperor ascended on Molock which is why he is superior to all the other custodians. That's my head cannon anyway
@@titanwargaming agreed and I think the mic drop of Lillian Chase being the librarian is really going to tie things together. I have a feeling that library space is part of the Maz which makes me wonder if there aren't back doors into Terra now and Valdor could just walk into the throne room with his legions
Hi Mate, thanks for commenting. At the beginning of Birth of the Imperium Vador awakes an adult, having undergone the process of being crafted into what he is now. During the Heresy series I think it was though, Erda recalls that The Emperor sent a significant force to locate and bring back Valdor to the Emperor, likely slaying Valdor's biological parents in the process.
If there were no primachs , how would you get gene seed? It would have to come from the emperor wouldn't it? Can't have the egg before the chicken or the chicken before the egg.
The initial primarch embryos were made from isolated parts of the Emperor's own genetic code. They each represent am aspect of their father. Once you have the initial imprint you can clone from there after. And that's not including any made-up science in the imaginary future of this imaginary setting
It's the start! sorry mate, that's totally my mistake. I'll make a pinned comment on this video to correct that oversight. Thanks a lot for mentioning it, much appreciated.
I don't think Valdor is necessarily a Perpetual. I also don't think it really matters. Even regular Astartes are basically functionally immortal and usually only die violently. It stands to reason that a Custodian, who is to an Astartes what an Astartes is to a regular human, would be functionally immortal even more so - and a lot less likely to die because they're a lot more powerful. We know of regular Astartes who have survived from the Heresy era (with and without chaos influence), it's really not hard to imagine Valdor doing the same simply by virtue of his enhanced biology. As to his wounds, again: Custodes shenanigans. If their resilience is similarly superior to that of the Astartes as their power - and it stands to reason that it is - then surviving wounds he seemingly shouldn't isn't really surprising. So applying Occam's razor here, no, I don't think any of these things point to his being a Perpetual. I honestly hope I'm right about this too, because in all honestly the Perpetuals trope is overused already as it is, and writing even more characters of that sort of power into the lore wouldn't be doing it ANY good at all.
It definitely seems so though I'm hoping we find out far more detail on this point when the third and final Bequin novel is finally released. We go into more detail here about it though: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
so.. what? valdor stabbed abaddon or horus and saw the infinite war against the demons and decided to make an army of his own but if he's against empire is unknown..?
Yep he saw what the future would hold, a never ending cycle of war on a galactic scale. This likely prompted him to up and leave the Imperium and begin his own plans. Especially considering the sense of free will he had begun to develop through the Apollonian Spear and then being masterless with the Emperor's internment on the Golden Throne.
The Horus Heresy was 11,000 years ago by the current year 41.000. The Age of Strife was millenia prior to that, so Valdor should be far older than 11,000. Also, all Custodes are effectively immortal, so why is his age a problem as you make it out to be?
It's certainly not a massive deal but considering Custodes' abilities degrade over time it's a relative point, especially when you consider the story arc of the king in yellow and just where all the Custodes who retire from service end up. Eyes of the Emperor is a thing but I make regarding that in this King In Yellow video: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
Sanguinius will become the emperor in yellow. He will come from the blind side. OR IT WILL BE RUS. Why? It's from the blind side and makes the fans go 🤯. RUS comes back into the world and adorns yellow and has the root, or fruit from that one tree from the warp. He might find it from the garden of plague after it got burned down. He himself might be plagued. And dies in front of his father. The tree of life or what is a gift from the aeldari goddess that cries all the time. The wife and prisoner of plague God.
It's weird that they'll put their or others lives ahead of the Emperor and his safety; and yet [how do] they take part in the Blood Games; where [for those who don't know] they infiltrate the palace and will try to assassinate the Emperor*. These two points seem to clash in my mind! * not that any of them have the means
This is true, he could very well be in cahoots with another such as Leman Russ or even Rogal Dorn. We go into some possibilities with explanations in the end of this video: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
@@titanwargaming ... or still under directives from The Emperor... This could be his function in the event of The Emperor being secured to the Throne...
When referring to one of the ten thousand he should be called custos Constantine Valdor . Being that the 'custodes' is the high gothic (latin) word for guards or keepers. Instead of the low gothic(English) custodians. Not really lore friendly but still had to lay it out there.
Beta doesn't even do anything especially impressive in the series, and everything she does do is well within the expectations set by the series lore surrounding baseline humans trained in the Schola Progenium schools.
I could help Valdor with his childhood memories, he'd be able to recall all of them; possibly! Depends whether the spear shows the lives of those whose blood its spilled, but not killed, or just those he kills. If the former he could stab his self or draw his own blood and the spear would show him his life, his traumas, his childhood! nad again, if the former he attained the Emperor's blood on it? :D You can see why he's a beast in combat, apart from being a Custodes and training/fighting for 10'000yrs; with his eidetic memory the lives, experiences, fighting and combat skills of every p[erosn he's bested in combat will also come part of his overall fighting skill. Just 1 person per one of those ^ yrs, ech with say 10yrs of battle experience their selves; after 10'000yrs he'd also have gotten another 100'000 man -hours- years to add to it; and he will have killed far, far, far more than single digits per year each with varied yrs of xp, countless men, Astartes, Eldar, Orcs all other enemies combat lifespans added to his own! Wonder how it would work with a Tyranid synapse creature? You see this version's life, and/or all the existences from reclamation?!
Why wouldnt the emporor like months ago...horus valdor get over here. Horus your losing your humanity. You are going to need to use this spear for the next month so you can sit and think about what you kill after you kill it. End of discussion. HH avoided
Horus wasn't losing his humanity, though. Also, it's not like the Emperor knew Horus was turning. The Four were deliberately clouding the Emperor's foresight. It might have been worth the Emperor recalling the Crusade fleets once things started getting foggy.
If you were to see 10k years of unimaginable atrocities and suffering leading to what is antithesis of the vision of the person you're most loyal to, you'll get PTSD too. Even Dorn seeing his beloved brother dead, his father a barely living corpse and other brothers slaves to chaos gods broke through his stoicism
the emperor knew some one was gonna betray him , he didnt know wish one let alone half of his kids ,and he didnt know the where and when, thats why he kept the webway project a secret, the emperor could square up with 1 god at a time and win , but when the 4 ganged up on him he lost his foresight and didnt see it coming
Unfortunately in the end and death part 2 there were some custodes influenced into attacking the emperor though that's the first and only canonical instance of that occurring. The King in Yellow on the other hand stands in stark opposition to Chaos. It's just that he isn't allied with what the Imperium has become that makes him more of a free agent.
Uwama (The high lord that interviews Valdor) In his book comments about his age. She says something along the lines of "time doesn't affect you of course" He replies "Not in the same way" The emperor himself says this several times in his book, master of mankind and Cawls book, the great work. I don't believe he's a natural perpetual but it is possible he was made Into a perpetual. The Eldari can do this to humans and we know how much the emperor likes to steal others secrets for his own. It would make sense the emperor would require his closest to be immortal like himself. The trouble with 40k lore is that it is written by many different authors over several decades. We do not know if they have a strict core to the lore and if they coordinate properly.
All Custodians are 10k+ years old. They were all created around roughly the same period and none have been made since then, so Valdor being around that long is pretty normal by their standards.
Yeah, it would be interesting if just so happened that most of semi-retired Custodes / Eyes of The Emperor kinda wanted to see what legendary Captain General was about. And he'd arrive with maybe 'age worn' but say, 50-100 thousand retired Custodes with not uniformed but DAoT armament.........
This is easily the WORST 40k lore channel, even worse than Luetin09 cause he at least would have said something rather repeat himself, make some baseless assertions and, bury leads for the 1st 7 minutes of the video
Unfortunately it seems you've missed the point of the video's introduction. Maybe you should listen back to it a few more times and sub while you're at it.
Hi All, a mistake on my part in a statement during this video. Without spoiling any content, the name we mention that's deciphered at the end of a certain book, was actually at the beginning. Thanks a lot and my apologies. Have a good one!
Have you considered a video about the Orpheus and the king and yellow and howndit may actually pertain to Alpharius and the alpha legion acting out the Orpheus Protocol which is to fight chaos directly? It's left up in the air with Pesh locked in stasis by John but I had a feeling that Pesh is actually Alpharius and has been from the start. Also not completely convince though it's been "confirmed" that Omegon died but could he have possibly ascended or at least given himself over to chaos before being killed by Dorn which would allow him to come back in DP form and fight loyal Alpharius?
Na, you should've played it like, "Hey, we all read Manga, I was just thinking about it like the speech bubbles."
I think Valdor is all about retaking the city of Calastar in the webway. Then he if he can hold and refortify it, with his army that seems perfectly created to do just this, a choke point could be created away from Terra and the Emperor could leave the throne without chaos busting through the webway. At least this is my understanding, that the ancient city of Calaster (created by the Eldar) is on the Terra side of the breach that Magnus made so that holding and fortifying Calastar effectively protects Terra. But if you look at Valdor's army, it seems the perfect army to actually hold it. Also, Valdor was there in the war of the webway so he has 1st hand knowledge of what type of army it would take to hold it.
But how would the emperor leave, hes somewhere between life and death atm
@@bensugden1586 Take the Emperor off the throne and allow him to come back as a perpetual. The throne keeps the Emp going but the Emp keeps the throne going too. His deaths "power" the throne sort of which brings him back as is and not a full return via perpetual means. OR.... I am really just guessing now but it makes sense to me.
Valdor seeing the future knows exactly what needs to happen to bring the Emperor back and also knows about the Star Child, that aspect of the Emperor (his love, kindness, etc.) that he cut away from his psyche before battling Horus. So there is a shard of the Emperor out there, the Star Child, that is all of the empathy and love of the Emperor. Shedding this part could allow the Emp to survive in hell for 10k years and not be tainted/corrupted by the experience. It is as if his logical unemotional aspects are doing what must be done on the Golden Throne while his humanity was set aside to be protected. So some sort of reunification with that shard could help the Emperor to return, much like Janus has the Shard of Magnus that was all his nobility and better parts.
@@kccustodes2618 If that part of the Emperor still exists in the Warp the forces of Chaos would surely be obsessed with finding and destroying it. How would a warp entity of such power hide itself?
@headlibrarian1996 I think we already have it returned in lore but no one makes the connection
@@headlibrarian1996if the chaos gods focus their own attention on that fragment it gives the throne emperor reprieve for even the fewest seconds (seconds in the warp are different than the real space )
Most likely the chaos gods have sent forces to find it or the fragment is hidden somewhere in real space or going where ever the saints go.
"I was there when Horus slew the Emperor." -The Emperor
That confused the shit out of me when I read the 1st HH book for the first few pgs of the book 😂
That's actually a Loken quote...;)
What valdor sees in Abaddon’s blood is not merely the future. He sees chaos enslaved and controlled, harnessed by the will of one singular being: "The Despoiler".
Okay, that's cool AF.
Not read it yet and I am really not sure what to make of that. It sounds ominous in a very cool way but will GW actually do something with this or is it just a throw away line?
@@kccustodes2618 it simply support the character of Ezekyle Abaddon, that GW and the authors of BL has shown and told us about for years, but that sooo many fans refuse to understand because "Failbaddon"...
A lie meme narrative!
Pretty sure the night lord's book shadow night shows that chaos has its claws in him too, I think it's a matter of time before it consumes him too.
@@licensed_beheader the Night Lords trilogy is infamously shown from Talos's pov. If one rereads his interaction with Abaddon and looks beyond his biased viewpoint, Abaddon comes of quite well.
(ADB has repeatedly talked about this in interviews even)
Besides, people have claimed something similar to your take for decades.... The opposite has happened, as Abaddon’s semi-independence from Chaos has only been further highlighted and underscored.
Maybe what Valdor is building as the King in Yellow, is in fact an army capable enough that he can push back the demons in the webway from Terra, allowing the golden throne to be vacated when the time is necessary, and possibly....allowing the Emperor to do his perpetual thing and come back to life....just a musing is all.
Definitely could be mate, that's a great point. We also go into more detail on possibilities in this video if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
Yes, I always wondered why the Emperor as a Perpetual can't just briefly die and come back to life renewed. How long would it take? They can't get a ton of psyjers together and power the Golden Throne and the Astronomican without him for, like, an hour? 5 minutes?
I don’t think it would go that far but pushing back the deamons would give the emperor more power I’m other areas maybe he could use that power to boost the astronomicon letting it shine though the maelstrom and into imperial nihils
This would be fucking incredible and perfect way to bring E back to the setting
@@TF2CrunchyFrogit takes years to reform for most the Emps may be different but probably not
What if instead of being a Perpetual Valdor is a Sensei this would even make more sense why the Big E wwanted him by his site
The tabletop needs a custodes primarch model. A scaled up trajann or a new valdor.
Me. Just make a model of me and make it about 15 feet tall. Made of pure gold.
@@darthkek1953 why the hell would we want a Dylan Mulvany impersonator?
@@dualityomk9854 because I've got the balls to do it.
I use Valdor as a TV proxy
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 yet another fantasy jackoff that needs to get a job. I may be insane, but ya'll are just pathetic
I've always thought Valdor is a little like an empty primarch, essentially perfect but lacking a warp entity within him
Isnt that all the custodians basically? Pinnacle of genetic science. no warp needed.
@@allways28Valdor is notably much stronger than the average custodes. Likely he got extra super duper special treatment by the emperor
@@louiesatterwhite3885or he was born that way
I want Valdor to take his army to Terra and make his way past his brothers to the throne room, gently poking the emperor with the spear and saying “no more secrets, no more half truths….no more lies”. The emperor knew he would do this eventually and through the spear he sees the memories of the emperor talking to himself but in actuality talking to Valdor….something like he did with Cawl
9:19 Ahh, Little Kitten.
Haha yes
I always thought he was more like a mechanical model no feeling's that's why the emperor gave him the spear so he could stay semi human at least
They keep fucking up the lore
Based off The End and the Death Vol 3 I don't have much faith in Abnett handling Valdor. He was portrayed as a complete moron in that book.
@@gabrielmagister6072 Is it just me or does Abnett come off as down playing Custodes (and all things related to them)? Like they are not his creations, or something he even likes, so they end up feeling a bit lacking? I would have to take a moment and think on this, but I am pretty sure none of the Custodes lore that made me a huge fan of that faction was penned by Abnett. In fact, some of the most "meh" Custodes moments are from him.
@@kccustodes2618 I doubt Abnett hates them; just that his vision of a custodes doesn't match the oft quoted "Custodes is to a Space Marine as a Space Marine is to a standard human". If I recall even in his earliest offerings he always seemed to depict Custodes as being only marginally better than a Space Marine.
@maltheri9833 I know the scenes you're talking about. I can't go into spoilers but I'm referring to his battlefield decision making during his fight against the Sons of Horus and Word Bearers.
I wonder if its possible Valdor gave The Emperor a little pokey pokey before he left terra. On the brink of death, that much knowledge from his blood would be priceless
from what i know custodies genes are not spliced with any other beings genes like the Astarties , they retain their human genes from birth , only that it is enhanced beyond even astarties gene , they are pure humans ,where astarties genes are spliced with their primarch's gene
,thats why the custodies creation is far far harder then astarties as each one is completely unique and cant be replicated.
so maybe the emperor sought out valdor becoz he was a perpetual, maybe the emperor as a perpetual himself sensed the birth of valdor another perpetual and moved heavens and earth to get him to be his captain general .... i cant think of a better person to put as your captain general then a being that will be reborn endlessly and cant die.
also it is noted that the emperor did not foresee after the heresy, his custodies asked him what to do and he said the most terrifying sentence a ruler can say to his people :" i dont know" valdor was there (probably) and i guess he decided to take things into his hands to save his king's domain .
I really do not think Valdor is a perpetual, but I think the Emperor maybe have found some aspect of the perpetual gene and that is why Custodes do not grow old. A Custodes will effectively be at top physical condition forever but they end up retiring to become "Eyes of the Emperor", creating their own spy networks and relaying it all back the Captain General, this networked supposedly helps alot in the current Tyranid threat to Terra but I am waiting on novels to fully develop this. Anyways, Custodes only retire because they have gotten slower because of injury and only die due to injury, never from just old age.
@@kccustodes2618 i dont think there is a special gene in the custodies in one of the storys ,one mother stole some food when the emperor's forces were handing out food and her punishment was death (naturally) ,she pleaded for her son , and the custodies told her that they will take care of him , he became a custody ,so i dont think there is something special about them , its just that valdor is so special ,the emperor sought him out himself ........the question is why
@@fouzaialaa7962 In 8th ed Codex, it says Custodes are taken as infants and have their DNA enhanced. They do not have extra organs and stuff like the Astartes, they are just gene enhanced to the maximum human potential and perpetual is very rare genetics. The fact that Custodes do not age makes me think that maybe the Emperor discovered at least that part of the perpetual gene. As for Valdor himself, that is about as vague as can be to the reason why he was chosen. But it is stated that the Emperor risked everything to get Valdor. Oh, it also says something in the Codex like the unlocking of their genetics seems like unlocking an aspect of their souls (or something like that). It makes it sound that to make a Custodes it enhancing their genes so deep it is like improving their very souls.
Valdor better bring his army to go back into the webway and complete the job the emperor couldn’t and that would give the Big E enough time to recover since he won’t have to seal the web way
I could see that being something that could happen
For sure, yes.
Wait you mean to tell me that the Big E was planning on closing the webway? Isn’t that the whole thing of Cegorach?
@frezzypop4973 I don't think Big E was closing webway, but if had finished what he was doing maybe it would have been more secure?
@@kccustodes2618 yea- I don’t mean close the webway but it wouldn’t be filled with all the warp demons anymore cuz Valdor would’ve killed everything and then it would be more stable so the Big E wouldn’t have to use all his focus sealing it like he is now.
i think possibly the Custodian were closest 30k humanity ever gotten to a "made" Race of Golden Men thru gene crafting. i wouldnot say Valdor is to the Custodes as Primarch to their respective Astartes, but each Custodes is a unique one piece work of art that require skillful artisan hands, while Primarch are made to mass manufacture Astartes, similar to analogy of a Swiss Artisan watch vs mass produced Quartz watch analogy
I genuinely enjoy the lore you choose to convey its interesting to lore fans like me without being simple like explaining things I've heard a thousand times I'll give all you're videos likes for that cheers mate
Thanks mate I really appreciate that!
He’s a custodian. The first custodian. Making him a perpetual would be redundant (like they did with Vulkan which I still think is madness) of course he could shrug off those injuries.
You're forgetting previous lore. Before these books came out, it is constantly said through the lore that when the faithful die, they join the Emperor as an army, which will end up fighting Chaos. Probably a misinterpreted divination, actually meaning Valdors Empire.
The Sorcerers College has Lillian Chase as the librarian.
No, i dont believe Valdor is a custode blueprint...why? Because its stated that every custode created is totally unique. No 2 custodes are the same
eisehorn series just goes wild
When the chaos SM sorcerers manifested was pretty damn wild. A thousand son, a freaking night lord. God damn
He even had an Alpha Legion marine in his service.
I really hope we get a whole new addition to the custodes army line from the king in yellow. Id be so flipping happy getting winged terminators and blank battle line models.
He must be a perpetual.
Can we start a discussion in the 40K lore community about why perpetuals exist at all?
Immortality is sought by so many in the setting, and it is seemingly impossible to achieve. Even the Eldar are now bound to their soul stones. So why are some very rare humans perpetuals like this, but no one else? The only solution I can see is that it is due to the Old Ones.
But again... Why?
There's actually several non human perpetuals in the setting... Mostly Eldar...
A sensei perhaps
From what I understand, perpetuals are a possible evolution of humankind (or other races). The fact that there are perpetuals is a rare genetic trait, much rarer than psychics even. I believe I saw a comment somewhere about a novel I had not read that said something along the lines of, "The Emperor wanted to get humanity into the webway so that they could evolve into a superior psychic race free from the tampering of chaos". That goes along with idea the humans were seeded by the old ones.
That part about turning humans into a "superior psychic race" was always confusing to me. How is that even possible in the webway? Isn't the point of webway in being "not-warp", i.e. the space , that has no connection to it? How does one even develop an understanding of psychic powers if there's no way to tap into the source of said powers?...
@@whiteelephant3673 I am not sure how that works.
Do I hear Imperium Tertiarus? Valdor becomes the new Emperor!
If their new custodes army introduced, maybe this is GW's way of releasing larger custodes models like the primaris, feels similar to the belasarous cawl army creation
They more likely going to release smaller version of custodes.
I listened to that Bequin novel on Audible and nearly lost my shit when he read the last line
Never went this deep on Valdor, this was great!
Thanks Mate!
Then don't call urself warhammer fan, if u r w40k fan u constantly need to go very deep into man
@@ScythianLancerDon't put down others because they have other things to do aside from looking at 40K lore
@user-el1cj1do1j Hi Mate, I appreciate your enthusiasm and love for the lore but let's keep it nice please. There's a lot of lore within 40k which has been built out over decades and I'd bet my next paycheck that nobody on earth knows every detail.
Hear me out what if Valdor has been utilizing the Apollonian spear on himself to see his own destiny and make plans accordingly
We need the official Constantine Valdor workout routine!
In the End and the Death Volume 2, Malcador witnesses the Emperor jettisoning a fragment of his essence into the Inevitable City enroute to Horus after refusing to become the Dark King. I believe Leman Russ and Valdor's quest is to recover this fragment (which may have his name?). Russ and Valdor are bound together by the Two Metaphysical Blades.
Supposedly some lore snippets point out cave paintings of Custodes long before Valdors birth implying the emperor's been making custodes before Valdors but Valdors is simply the first of Legion's men I.E the old ones either gave up leadership or stayed guards and chose duty over glory
That's really cool mate I don't think I've heard that before, thanks!
Do you have a source for that? Sounds ominous
@@XraynPR don't remember but it stuck out as odd when looking through custodes lore but my gander is it's implying Hercules Goliath and Achilles may have all been gene modded and basically proto custodes it was less ominous and more the emperor's has been perfecting his art for centuries
Which in 40k an explanation like hey all the heroes of yore are just people who have malleable genes and Big E might have been like yo let me help you be better.
But at that point this is just speculation and probably why custodes were so hard to make in the past because he didn't grow them in a tube he took normal people who could survive gene alchemy and made them better.
Correction: the City of Dust exists in the warp and is not in the webway. Bequin literally sees the eye of terror in the distance at one point while exploring it.
The Webway runs through the Warp.
@@titanwargaming Sure but the webway are like tunnels. You don't normally see through the walls to the outside. In the Bequin novel she is in a vast emptyness like being in space and can see the Eye of Terror in one direction and the Astronomicon/Emperor in another (she gets sunburn from the light from him). She also sees the tides of the warp as a 'sea'. The webway has some large tunnel sections big enough for spacecraft to travel down but nothing so big that there aren't visible walls. It seems very obvious to me that it is in the warp (protected by the runes and nulls) and not the webway.
Those are some great points mate, thank you. Given the descriptions of the city of dust like you've mentioned as well as how massive Thermysan is, I really hope we learn more detail about it in the third novel. I don't think I've ever been as fascinated by a location like that in any other franchise.
As long as in the end we get a updated line of custodes. That all i care about.
I'm currently in the rabbit hole audiobooks and lore vids, so I'll quote what comes to mind. This, I think, is from Master of Mankind, paraphrased:
Each Custodies is a work of art, unique, crafted to the individual's genome, infused with the Master of Mankind's own genetic prowess. Constantine is to the Emperor as a favorite work of art as much as a favorite confidante, and so chooses to visit Constantine in his dreams.
Love that mate thanks for commenting!
Maybe valdor is a vessel for the star child (the part the emp threw away in order to fight Horus) and emp/ malc had forseen this, that’s why he is in the webway ever since? Or he’s special because the emp is currently „transforming“ his persona / might into him, like the „shamans“ did back in the day, because he is the „perfect“ vessel (would make sense since the emp is deteriorating but not dying)?
Edit: maybe that’s what he has seen in Abbadons blood, he’s supposed to be the „vessel“ but doesn’t want to so he chills in the webway and empi is fugged because of that 😅
Short on time but does it have anything to do with how Horus spoke all of Dusk's names and gained controlled over him?
Was think maybe he's been controlled with his because of the book bequin found
Constantin is *Little Kitten*
FINALLY WE GET THE CANON CONFIRMATION!!!
Small nitpick, but Kyril Sindermann wasn't a remembrancer, he was an iterator. I see him get lumped in with the remembrancers a lot because they were ultimately treated the same by Horus, but there is a distinct difference.
A giant Golden fleet is interesting. Maybe Valdor has found a way to restore the emperor and plans to go to Terra and Extract the Emperor from the Golden Throne for a duration, essentially shutting down warp travel but has a fleet capable traversing pocket dimensions. As soon as the Emperor is off that throne it'd be literal Chaos, so it'd make sense to have a massive fleet capable of some sort of escape or defense temporarily.
That's certainly true mate, we go more in depth into the King In Yellow's realm and servants here if you're interested: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
Imagine Valdor using the spear on the emperor... thats crazy.
I will say that granting Valdor Perpetual status would help alleviate the loss of the King in Yellow being a Primarch.
I’m a Dornite through and through, so my hope was KiY to be the Return of Dorn.. but you have me convinced that Valdor makes a better selection. Primarch Perpetual Valdor. Something we have seen through Vulkan. It’s not outside the realm of possibility.
If Valdor failed his first duty i think he would fall upon his second duty. Avenge the Emporer. This is a fleet he is building in the webway. Not just a fleet but also fulfilling the emporers dreams which were his goals before.
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in my head canon Valdor is some kind of relation to the Emperor, grandson, great grandson etc.
oh you have a head canon?
Constantin Valdor is the ONLY BEGOTTEN son of the emperor. And that is very significant. He was conceived naturally and wasn't some experiment. He probably kept this a secret from everyone even from Valdor. I just know constantin is very special.😊
Thanks for the end and the death spoiler warning, ill come back and watch this after i get through it.😊
Cognitae army inbound
Cognoscenti vs Intelligentsia.
Would Eldar help with the webway, considering that they are helping Guilliman ? Just a thought
I mean.....in the 30k tabletop Valdor is flagged as the Custodes Primarch
what if valdor is a "true born" son of the emporer?, "Sensei's" i think the older lore called them. what if valdor is one of the emps actual ballz deep "cheeks slayin" required process kinda children (Imagine...... Big E got Erda on nothin but her knees n elbows with a deep arch just diggin er out n rearranging shit. If u nome saying) , and knew the importance of valdor far into the future. and what if valdor was a perpetual "sensei" but had very little physical and psychic enhancements that the othwer sensei's had but with Big D uh...... i mean Big E knowing or sensing the literal galaxy saving importance of valdor he used his already existing gene crafting knowledge or learned himself that shit so he could make valdor into the alpha, omega, sigma, giga chaldor that would one day save the universe. i dunno, but shit one can dream cant he?
This is the worst and best comment ever on 40k.
Man you put some thought into that!
@@rungfang27 pfffft what???? actin like its my extremely thought out and meticulously detailed fantasty head cannon origin story/pxrno infatuation thats permanantly hardlocked into my spankbank. and that my 3D hentai plug may have some shit in the works, cause it aint , and i dont. is thatr what ur trying to insinuate?????????.
bro
The bequin trilogy and DA's work in general is about how not everything is how it seems. The second book ends in a line long revelation that the king in yellow's name is Konstantin Valdor. However, it's very unlikely that the King in Yellow is actually Konstantin Valdor, the original leader of the custodes Could just as well be someone pretending to be KV. It's not even stated specifically that the name in the book is the King in Yellow's name. It's not properly defined that the book contains only the name, maybe it's a sentence starting with the name.
Nothing is in the books yet, so jumping to conclusions based on the tiniest hints is absolutely bonkers. No one knows who the king in yellow is but you've already given the motive in their existence.
This is not going to end well sadly. Lillian Chase has discovered Valdor's full name and Basilio Fo has likely hijacked whatever Valdor was hoping to achieve by controlling him through his true name. That is my best guest based upon what Abnett has written to date.
Valdor is the emperor and Erdas biological and only true son consummated and birn before the emperor ascended on Molock which is why he is superior to all the other custodians. That's my head cannon anyway
Mate that's an amazing insite, thanks for commenting! I really hope we learn more in the third Bequin book.
@@titanwargaming agreed and I think the mic drop of Lillian Chase being the librarian is really going to tie things together. I have a feeling that library space is part of the Maz which makes me wonder if there aren't back doors into Terra now and Valdor could just walk into the throne room with his legions
Mate that is so cool! Jeez are you the real Ollanius? You've certainly got some great original takes on the lore, good on ya.
@@titanwargaming Just me and Ol Bess just trying set the story straight lmao. Nah he's my favorite character in the series!
I thought birth of the imperium implied Valdor was an adult when made a custodian.
Hi Mate, thanks for commenting. At the beginning of Birth of the Imperium Vador awakes an adult, having undergone the process of being crafted into what he is now. During the Heresy series I think it was though, Erda recalls that The Emperor sent a significant force to locate and bring back Valdor to the Emperor, likely slaying Valdor's biological parents in the process.
Valdor is a decedent of the Emperor thats why hes so different from other Custodes???$$$+++
A sensei
If there were no primachs , how would you get gene seed? It would have to come from the emperor wouldn't it? Can't have the egg before the chicken or the chicken before the egg.
The initial primarch embryos were made from isolated parts of the Emperor's own genetic code.
They each represent am aspect of their father.
Once you have the initial imprint you can clone from there after.
And that's not including any made-up science in the imaginary future of this imaginary setting
in your king in yellow video you say that valdor's names are the firsts of the book, in this video you say that they are it's last so wich one is it ?
It's the start! sorry mate, that's totally my mistake. I'll make a pinned comment on this video to correct that oversight. Thanks a lot for mentioning it, much appreciated.
I don't think Valdor is necessarily a Perpetual. I also don't think it really matters. Even regular Astartes are basically functionally immortal and usually only die violently. It stands to reason that a Custodian, who is to an Astartes what an Astartes is to a regular human, would be functionally immortal even more so - and a lot less likely to die because they're a lot more powerful. We know of regular Astartes who have survived from the Heresy era (with and without chaos influence), it's really not hard to imagine Valdor doing the same simply by virtue of his enhanced biology.
As to his wounds, again: Custodes shenanigans. If their resilience is similarly superior to that of the Astartes as their power - and it stands to reason that it is - then surviving wounds he seemingly shouldn't isn't really surprising.
So applying Occam's razor here, no, I don't think any of these things point to his being a Perpetual. I honestly hope I'm right about this too, because in all honestly the Perpetuals trope is overused already as it is, and writing even more characters of that sort of power into the lore wouldn't be doing it ANY good at all.
Is the city of dust the same as the forever city?
Well shit this explains much about why the Fab Custodes along with Santodes act that way.
New to lore, has valdor tried cutting himself to see if he can get his memories that he barely remembers back? Lol
Lol not the worst idea mate.
That’s a cool theory that Valdor is a Perpetual 🤔
Good content. More pls.
Thanks mate
Wait. Is city of dust in the webway?
It definitely seems so though I'm hoping we find out far more detail on this point when the third and final Bequin novel is finally released. We go into more detail here about it though: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
Fascinating speculations!
Thanks Mate!
KEEP EATING BROTHER TITAN!!
Thank you mate I will.
so.. what? valdor stabbed abaddon or horus and saw the infinite war against the demons and decided to make an army of his own but if he's against empire is unknown..?
Yep he saw what the future would hold, a never ending cycle of war on a galactic scale. This likely prompted him to up and leave the Imperium and begin his own plans. Especially considering the sense of free will he had begun to develop through the Apollonian Spear and then being masterless with the Emperor's internment on the Golden Throne.
@@titanwargaming alright, thank you for clearing that for me!
Abnett has stated recently that the third Bequin book is finished. Lets se when it gets released.
I can honestly say I have never been so excited for something to be released by anyone else in my life.
@@titanwargaming Well, i feel you. I mean talk about a cliff hanger in the second book god damn! 😂
The Horus Heresy was 11,000 years ago by the current year 41.000. The Age of Strife was millenia prior to that, so Valdor should be far older than 11,000.
Also, all Custodes are effectively immortal, so why is his age a problem as you make it out to be?
It's certainly not a massive deal but considering Custodes' abilities degrade over time it's a relative point, especially when you consider the story arc of the king in yellow and just where all the Custodes who retire from service end up. Eyes of the Emperor is a thing but I make regarding that in this King In Yellow video: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
Sanguinius will become the emperor in yellow. He will come from the blind side. OR IT WILL BE RUS. Why? It's from the blind side and makes the fans go 🤯. RUS comes back into the world and adorns yellow and has the root, or fruit from that one tree from the warp. He might find it from the garden of plague after it got burned down. He himself might be plagued. And dies in front of his father. The tree of life or what is a gift from the aeldari goddess that cries all the time. The wife and prisoner of plague God.
Is the king in yellow just an excuse to tie the Stormcast Eternals into 40k?
Lol I hope not mate
Valdor was the first primarch
watch constatines mission to save the big e.....is to resurct malcador
It's weird that they'll put their or others lives ahead of the Emperor and his safety; and yet [how do] they take part in the Blood Games; where [for those who don't know] they infiltrate the palace and will try to assassinate the Emperor*. These two points seem to clash in my mind!
* not that any of them have the means
Valdor was is and always will be sucker.
What if Valdor is the emperors natural son
That might work his children are born normal so maybe this time he decided he wouldn't lose his son and genetically enhanced him
What makes you think he's acting autonomously?
This is true, he could very well be in cahoots with another such as Leman Russ or even Rogal Dorn. We go into some possibilities with explanations in the end of this video: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
@@titanwargaming ... or still under directives from The Emperor... This could be his function in the event of The Emperor being secured to the Throne...
That's certainly a possibility mate, nice one.
What prevents Constantin from piercing his own skin with the Appalonian spear? 🤔
In my headcanon Valdor is Primarch minus warp fvckery.
Well done, now spoiler version please!
@djj949 check this out: m.th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
When referring to one of the ten thousand he should be called custos Constantine Valdor . Being that the 'custodes' is the high gothic (latin) word for guards or keepers. Instead of the low gothic(English) custodians. Not really lore friendly but still had to lay it out there.
If we were to be accurate with the Latin, then most of the words would be wrong
I agree he's gotta be a perpetual.
For me, the king in yellow is Dorn and Valdor is helping him build a massive army.
Beta is such a Mary sue. She reminds me of Rey in Disney Star Wars.
She doesn't do anything crazy, stuff gets done by team mates and a demon around her, not by her so much.
She's also the end product of 10(?)odd books.
Interesting how the character shes based on started as a hooker, Eisenhorn bumped into
Beta doesn't even do anything especially impressive in the series, and everything she does do is well within the expectations set by the series lore surrounding baseline humans trained in the Schola Progenium schools.
hmmm him and primarch of alpha legion grew up togther
ALGORITHM
I could help Valdor with his childhood memories, he'd be able to recall all of them; possibly! Depends whether the spear shows the lives of those whose blood its spilled, but not killed, or just those he kills. If the former he could stab his self or draw his own blood and the spear would show him his life, his traumas, his childhood!
nad again, if the former he attained the Emperor's blood on it? :D
You can see why he's a beast in combat, apart from being a Custodes and training/fighting for 10'000yrs; with his eidetic memory the lives, experiences, fighting and combat skills of every p[erosn he's bested in combat will also come part of his overall fighting skill. Just 1 person per one of those ^ yrs, ech with say 10yrs of battle experience their selves; after 10'000yrs he'd also have gotten another 100'000 man -hours- years to add to it; and he will have killed far, far, far more than single digits per year each with varied yrs of xp, countless men, Astartes, Eldar, Orcs all other enemies combat lifespans added to his own!
Wonder how it would work with a Tyranid synapse creature? You see this version's life, and/or all the existences from reclamation?!
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I KNOW YOU'RE MAKING THOSE FLYING BLOOD ANGELS AT NIGHT DANNY!
that is not servitude. that is slavery.
Why wouldnt the emporor like months ago...horus valdor get over here. Horus your losing your humanity. You are going to need to use this spear for the next month so you can sit and think about what you kill after you kill it. End of discussion. HH avoided
Horus wasn't losing his humanity, though. Also, it's not like the Emperor knew Horus was turning. The Four were deliberately clouding the Emperor's foresight.
It might have been worth the Emperor recalling the Crusade fleets once things started getting foggy.
If you were to see 10k years of unimaginable atrocities and suffering leading to what is antithesis of the vision of the person you're most loyal to, you'll get PTSD too. Even Dorn seeing his beloved brother dead, his father a barely living corpse and other brothers slaves to chaos gods broke through his stoicism
the emperor knew some one was gonna betray him , he didnt know wish one let alone half of his kids ,and he didnt know the where and when, thats why he kept the webway project a secret, the emperor could square up with 1 god at a time and win , but when the 4 ganged up on him he lost his foresight and didnt see it coming
The King in Yellow is from Cthulhu Mythos. But a Custodes should _never_ fall to Chaos.
Unfortunately in the end and death part 2 there were some custodes influenced into attacking the emperor though that's the first and only canonical instance of that occurring. The King in Yellow on the other hand stands in stark opposition to Chaos. It's just that he isn't allied with what the Imperium has become that makes him more of a free agent.
Uwama (The high lord that interviews Valdor) In his book comments about his age. She says something along the lines of "time doesn't affect you of course"
He replies "Not in the same way" The emperor himself says this several times in his book, master of mankind and Cawls book, the great work. I don't believe he's a natural perpetual but it is possible he was made Into a perpetual. The Eldari can do this to humans and we know how much the emperor likes to steal others secrets for his own. It would make sense the emperor would require his closest to be immortal like himself.
The trouble with 40k lore is that it is written by many different authors over several decades. We do not know if they have a strict core to the lore and if they coordinate properly.
If they are perpetuals, where/when do fallen Custodes return?
Custodes sound like ideal Slanneshi disciples.
No...they don't take pleasure in their achievements
They take no pleasure in anything for that matter. Zero room for hedonism
@@johnnyscifi hedonism is only part of Slannesh, the other part is the strive for perfection.
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All Custodians are 10k+ years old. They were all created around roughly the same period and none have been made since then, so Valdor being around that long is pretty normal by their standards.
Yeah, it would be interesting if just so happened that most of semi-retired Custodes / Eyes of The Emperor kinda wanted to see what legendary Captain General was about. And he'd arrive with maybe 'age worn' but say, 50-100 thousand retired Custodes with not uniformed but DAoT armament.........
Mate that would be so cool, I love that! Honestly can't wait for the third Bequin book.
End and the death (all 3) were such fucken garbage, its a real shame that its now cannon. Pretty much killed all interest i had in the 30k lore
And what about that "army" he sapose to have ??
We go into more detail about that here: th-cam.com/video/jQ7vLti22-w/w-d-xo.html
It's pretty crazy what he has kicking around.
Valdor isnt the true king
This is easily the WORST 40k lore channel, even worse than Luetin09 cause he at least would have said something rather repeat himself, make some baseless assertions and, bury leads for the 1st 7 minutes of the video
Unfortunately it seems you've missed the point of the video's introduction. Maybe you should listen back to it a few more times and sub while you're at it.
Why do you hate luetin09 if i may ask