Is the weak nuclear force really a force?

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  • @whatdamath
    @whatdamath ปีที่แล้ว +198

    this is great! I'll be referencing this video when I need to cut corners with the weak force from now on

    • @Abc-dn2zu
      @Abc-dn2zu ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Please make a video related to weak force in detail

    • @emceeboogieboots1608
      @emceeboogieboots1608 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Onya Anton👍

    • @mateovncnt7411
      @mateovncnt7411 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Petrov!❤

    • @okman9684
      @okman9684 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hello wonderful person 🙋‍♂️

    • @Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi
      @Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@okman9684Haha only Anton thinks we are wonderful people.

  • @calmeilles
    @calmeilles ปีที่แล้ว +281

    The "deeper dives" into these subjects are always the most fascinating. I'd like to see more.

    • @causewaykayak
      @causewaykayak ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i second that wholeheartedly .

    • @KnightsWithoutATable
      @KnightsWithoutATable ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@causewaykayak I vote Aye on this motion

    • @UQuark0
      @UQuark0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's funny how this 'no one wants technicalities on teh internets' idea still exists. Nothing is too technical - more or less every level can be explained in an interesting and entertaining form

    • @causewaykayak
      @causewaykayak ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true

    • @causewaykayak
      @causewaykayak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonebest6013 Simone (?) you have Split an Infinitive which is a class of Sin entirely in its own category. To pay for this gross atrocity - when the sun vanishes instantly in compliance with your wishes - You wont be allowed to witness the event 👇🏿 so never be quite sure .... sorry about that but it's your own fault.

  • @GabrielGABFonseca
    @GabrielGABFonseca ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Honestly, I would genuinely appreciate a longer video going more in-depth about the Weak Force.

    • @lucasmcguire1554
      @lucasmcguire1554 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      PBS spacetime has a few good videos on the topic, although they are not easy to grasp and they give you an idea on why this stuff is so notoriously difficult to understand properly.

    • @morninggloryvisuals
      @morninggloryvisuals 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I second that.

  • @KafkaExMachina
    @KafkaExMachina ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Now I am extremely intrigued to know how the electroweak force was discovered and what the combination of the two forces as actually the same force means when talking about particle interactions.

    • @moocowpong1
      @moocowpong1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It’s a wild picture, much weirder than you might initially think. I’d love to see a video covering it.

    • @MrREX-sy4rz
      @MrREX-sy4rz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Make a video on quantum physics pls vote.... 😢

    • @london8732
      @london8732 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@moocowpong1
      PBS Space-time Electroweak theory video:
      th-cam.com/video/qKVpknSKgE0/w-d-xo.html

    • @RealMajor66
      @RealMajor66 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1 🙂

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It means that at extremely high energies, there is only one electroweak force, not separate electrical, magnetic, and weak forces. Which I guess many not be very helpful, but that's it.

  • @sydhenderson6753
    @sydhenderson6753 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Weak interactions tend to take a long time because of what you said...except for the top quark, which decays so rapidly that it doesn't have time to form hadrons. The reason for this is that has more mass than two W and/or Z particles in their normal mass range so it doesn't have to rely on the low probability of producing them that the lower-mass quarks do. It does so directly, and since the speed of a force depends on the mass of the force boson, the reaction is far faster than the strong interaction.

    • @sydhenderson6753
      @sydhenderson6753 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is also at least one quark produced during the decay, usually but not always a bottom quark.

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      That makes a lot of sense actually. Thank you

  • @mrtienphysics666
    @mrtienphysics666 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thanks Don, you are an expert who can explain. Very rare on the internet.

    • @mariotabali2603
      @mariotabali2603 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Very rare on Earth

    • @Posesso
      @Posesso ปีที่แล้ว +5

      rare but strong? ;)

  • @Mysoi123
    @Mysoi123 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    For those still puzzled by the concept of mass uncertainty, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that the duration in time and uncertainty in a particle's energy are connected through a constant, ΔE Δt ≥ ħ/2. Additionally, as Einstein demonstrated with his famous equation E=mc², mass can be understood as a measurement of energy. Consequently, mass also carries inherent uncertainty.
    This implies that the shorter a particle's lifespan, the wider the spread of its probability function becomes. Considering the weak boson particles, which decay rapidly, their mass also becomes probabilistic. Interestingly, even photons, conventionally regarded as massless, can exhibit mass if they engage in an interaction involving highly energetic photons that decay into a pair of matter and antimatter electrons. Thus, the transient photon, although typically short-lived, may acquire mass due to the inherent uncertainty.

    • @Posesso
      @Posesso ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks! Extremely convenient to add imo

    • @HellopeepsStavros
      @HellopeepsStavros ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sounds right, i always thought that there was more to the photon that met the eye. ! hahahhaaa

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A photon is massless when it comes to special relativity but it has energy when it interacts with particles and, therefore, acts as a massed object

    • @StarkRG
      @StarkRG ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@LadyAnuB They act like particles with momentum, not mass. (p=mv is only a close approximation of momentum when dealing with very massive objects moving at very slow speeds (compared to the speed of light).

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@StarkRG This is something that I need to brush up on considering this was ~30 years ago for me

  • @Starchface
    @Starchface ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dr. Don, more "deep dives" would be great. I always learn something from your videos. The production and the presentation are excellent. Thanks so much for the magnificent content all these years. You are appreciated!

  • @kuretinao8
    @kuretinao8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Don, thank you so much! I've been asking this question for such a long time and couldn't really get a straight answer! Now I have one! Great topic and, as always, great video!

  • @jardel_lucca
    @jardel_lucca ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can't emphasize enough how I love Dr. Don charismatic, very well didactic videos. I've been following for years

  • @kronkite1530
    @kronkite1530 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yes, more of these deeper dives please. This is excellent, so clear I could happily use it with my son.

  • @seionne85
    @seionne85 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Less than ten minutes and I learned more than hours of lectures. Thank you for these Dr. Lincoln

  • @14loosecannon
    @14loosecannon ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Interesting explanation of the weak force, especially describing the W bosons with the required energy as rare. From what I have been told before, the reason the weak force is considered weak is due to its lack of range, and that's due to the boson force carries having so much mass that their lifetimes are short as per the uncertainty principle. Are these two explanations equivalent?

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, but the latter one is passé. see: Breit Wigner Distribution.

  • @pystl
    @pystl ปีที่แล้ว +10

    On the topic of is-it-a-force... The results of Pauli's exclusion principle sure looks like a force, as it counteracts the ability of half spin particles to be in the same state, i.e. to bunch up together. I would really appreciate a video explaining the distinction in that case. Thanks.

    • @denysvlasenko1865
      @denysvlasenko1865 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pauli exclusion is not pushing anything. E.g. due to it, a neutron inside neutron star can't decay, because there is "no available electron states" for resulting electron to exist in. But neutron feels no force.

    • @viliml2763
      @viliml2763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@denysvlasenko1865 When you draw a free body diagram of a weight on a table, you have the gravitational force pushing downwards and the normal force pushing upwards. The normal force is caused by Pauli exclusion.

  • @sapelesteve
    @sapelesteve ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Now that was a very strong elucidation of the weak force Dr. Don! Well done! 👍👍💥💥

  • @thomasdjonesn
    @thomasdjonesn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a far better way to learn about it than either simply reading about it or trying to make sense of static drawings. I certainly appreciate it, it helps me grasp the concept better.

  • @Tletna
    @Tletna ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes, I'd love to watch/listen to a deeper dive on the Weak Force, please! Thanks for the video.

  • @AirwavesEnglish
    @AirwavesEnglish ปีที่แล้ว +4

    YES! Thanks a million, Don, I understood this on a whole new level now.
    I love this kind of "deep-dive" video; it's short, to the point and understandable. 🏆 PERFECT!

  • @billwindsor4224
    @billwindsor4224 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This man is completely awesome. And Femilab producing these instructional videos for the general public, solid information on physics that would take us years to learn, is also awesome. Thanks all!! 🏆🏆🏆

    • @martinpiekarski1512
      @martinpiekarski1512 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. It is a hands-down the best scientific channel on TH-cam. Or at very least the best when it comes to physics.

    • @nickmhc
      @nickmhc ปีที่แล้ว

      Top tier physics channel for sure

    • @grahamhagerty8648
      @grahamhagerty8648 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try Lecture series The Theory of Everything on Great Courses signature collection!

  • @stirlingblackwood
    @stirlingblackwood ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! I have so many questions!!
    1) If every fundamental particle has a range of possible masses, does each particle have a specific, definite mass prior to observation? Or is its mass fundamentally probabilistic like the position of an electron prior to observation? And what does this have to do with the Higgs field/boson? (This topic might merit a whole other video).
    2) What causes quarks to decay by emitting W bosons? And what is the order of decay? You mentioned that a top quark becomes a bottom quark which in turn becomes a charm quark. Can a charm quark then emit a W+ boson to become a strange quark, which can emit a W- boson to become an up quark, and then a final W+ to become a down quark? Can lower-mass particles ever absorb W bosons to become more massive particles, or does it only go one way?
    3) What about Z bosons!? You barely mentioned them!

  • @philiprice6961
    @philiprice6961 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Imagine this guy as a lecturer! He would be Feynman-level awesome! Actually a full lecture series wouldn't be a bad idea, if you can ever spare the time!

    • @jonnysokkoatduckdotcom
      @jonnysokkoatduckdotcom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be great! Full lecture series please

    • @darrellee8194
      @darrellee8194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's done at least one series for the Great Courses / Teaching Company / Wondrium

  • @mheermance
    @mheermance ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a really interesting video. The notion that a lightweight W boson is possible, but rare, and is required for the interaction is just plain amazing.

  • @COTU9
    @COTU9 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The other weak force you don't hear physicist's mention is the Bar force. It's supposed to keep me from picking up a candy bar when I'm trying to lose weight. It rarely shows up but when it does, it has to be pretty strong to work.

    • @rreiter
      @rreiter ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They also have yet to explain why skittles occur in a short burst of high frequency. There must be more than the weak force at play here... and how do they account for all the red ones?

  • @leapdaniel8058
    @leapdaniel8058 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 5:05, you mention that every subatomic particle has a range of masses. What determines this range- do we know? Also, is it really a Gaussian distribution, as it appears to be? Or is that just an approximation?
    At 5:45, you mention the mass that's "needed" in the kinds of radioactivity that involves the W boson. Why is a lower mass needed? If these interactions need a low-mass W boson, then under what circumstances have we measured the high-mass W bosons?

  • @theliterarycritic939
    @theliterarycritic939 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for this enlightening info ;)

  • @IronAceSUB
    @IronAceSUB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Again for the Great Video Dr. Lincoln!!! I love getting to see the world the way you see it and hear all these parts of physics I may miss out on otherwise!
    Have a wonderful week sir! ✨

  • @polanve
    @polanve ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for explaining this. Can you elaborate further on how elementary particles can change? Does this imply that maybe they are not elementary? Even just changing properties without changing to a whole different kind of particle seems to suggest some underlying structure.

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is an open question in particle physics. Personally, I think your conjecture is likely to be true, however there is zero direct evidence supporting it. So, wait and see.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no structure, but underlying symmetry is required. Here it's called weak isospin (because it's weak, and has the same math as spin). The same way an electron can flip it's spin by exchanging a photon, a quark can flip its` flavor by exchanging a weak boson.

    • @moocowpong1
      @moocowpong1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @polanve ultimately it’s because in electroweak theory, an electron and a neutrino are two sides of the same coin; they’re both part of an “isospin doublet”, and likewise for two different quarks. But we see electroweak theory through the lens of broken symmetry. What seems like a fundamental change to the nature of the particle is like the particle rotating so that a different face of it is visible through that lens.

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, you may have seen Feynman diagrams where there are vertices where there’s a wavy line representing a photon, and two straight lines representing an electron, meeting at a point,
      And depending on how these are arranged, this can represent any of:
      1) an electron absorbing a photon, and then carrying on its way
      2) an electron emitting a photon, and then carrying on its way
      3) either of the 2 above things except replace “electron” with “positron”
      4) a photon decaying into an electron and a positron
      5) an electron and positron annihilating and producing a photon.
      This kind of interaction has 3 parts to it, an electron part, the flipped-around version of the electron part[1], and the photon part.
      Note that there’s the photon part, where the photon is the force carrying particle, a boson,
      and then there’s a pair of electron parts.
      To have an interaction that gives a change in identity, you would have it so that the 3 lines meeting at the point, are of three different kinds. One of the 3 kinds would be the W or Z boson, and the other two lines would be the two different flavors of particles that things are going between.
      (But the interaction has to be compatible with the symmetries, so there are some charges that need to be conserved by this interaction. So any kind of charge that the two flavors might differ in, has to be matched/carried by the charges of the boson.
      Err.. I said the interaction “has to be” compatible with the symmetries, but maybe I should just say “is compatible with the symmetries”.)
      [1]: “flipped around” in that either one is the input “electron goes into interaction” and one is output “electron comes out of interaction”, or one is electron and one is positron (i.e. anti-electron)
      the “flipped around” iirc corresponds to the Hermitian conjugate of some operator, which is pretty much like taking the complex-conjugate transpose of a matrix.

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should look into quantum field theory.
      Particles are waves or peaks of energy in a field (universe-spanning medium that holds and exchanges energy with fields it overlaps with, and has fundamental symmetries (rules of how it operates explainable by different kinds of math like points vectors tensors etc)
      Every electron acts like an electron because it is just a small part of the same "object".
      The weak force bosons involve the photon field, and the higgs field.
      Before a certain symmetry was broken (by not having enough energy to operate that way), the 3 other higgs particles overlapped with the 3 other photons and became the weak bosons. But back during the electroweak unification era there were 2 chargless higgs, 2 charged higgs, and 2 chargless photons 2 charged photons.

  • @marcochimio
    @marcochimio 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic Quick Video. This cleared up several questions I've had for years, but never bothered to deep-dive myself. Thank you.

  • @taichikitty
    @taichikitty ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you please make a video explaining how the time dilation due to the difference in gravitation between the surface and the center of star affects the behavior and lifecycle of the star?

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always asked myself "what the weak nuclear force actually do?" for years, never being curious enough to look it up. The popular books and shows always just mentioned the "it's responsible for nuclear decay etc.". And finally the answer came. Thanks!

  • @me0101001000
    @me0101001000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a classical explanation of a quantum phenomenon. I'm going to use that now, thanks!
    You think I could run with it and talk about the weak force as though I'm pulling things out of the bag and tossing it again with less contents? Or does that analogy break down?

  • @markschmidley9229
    @markschmidley9229 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mr. Schmid's 1st period AP Physics (2) class loved this video!!

  • @bluejames3698
    @bluejames3698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you explain why the weak force is “related” to the electromagnetic?
    Great vid as always! Keep up the good work guys!

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      You ahould look into electroweak unification era. Its on Wikipedia
      W+, w-, and z boson used to be split up into 3 extra higgs particles and 3 extra photons. When the symmetry broke they "fell into" eachother and became the weak bosons. What used to be 1 force with more particles became 2 forces with less particles

    • @aresh004
      @aresh004 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@orbismworldbuilding8428 does this imply that the laws of physics were mutable at the time of the big bang and had to "harden" into the more stable laws we see now?

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aresh004 the laws of physics just work like the laws of physics at that energy level. If we put enough energy into someparticles they would act like they used to before, during, and shortlely after the big bang.
      Its possible that when we lose enough energy, physics will change again and act differently at those energy levels.
      If the false vacuum theory is true, a false vacuum decay would be an event that results in a significant change in physics.

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aresh004 not really
      Think of a phase transition from solid to liquid to gas, gas always acts like gas under those conditions (certain ranges of pressure and temperature) and physics is the same way, with laws and particle interactions changing depending on the phase of the universe.

  • @thomas6502
    @thomas6502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some laypersons contend that gratitude is also a force. If it succeeds in compelling, compelling content, all the more so. Thank you Fermilab (and all the other creators inspired by your contributions).

  • @stevelam1315
    @stevelam1315 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How can a quark with a mass less than a proton emit a W+ boson with a mass 82 times greater than proton's mass?

    • @trainjumper
      @trainjumper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the mass of a W+ boson isn't always 80 GeV; there's a diminishingly small but non-zero probability of one being created with a significantly lower mass (~1 MeV or so for weak force interactions to occur)

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว

      As far as I understand it's a question of two factors: (1) mass is nothing but energy, (2) quantum fluctuations (probability) which beat logic (unless you're strongly quantum-minded, I guess).

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What trainjumper said

    • @tonywells6990
      @tonywells6990 ปีที่แล้ว

      Virtual particles can have any mass. The W boson in interactions are virtual particles.

    • @stevelam1315
      @stevelam1315 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonywells6990 it means virtual particles are not physically real, its producing phantom energy?

  • @Sighhhh
    @Sighhhh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been trying to fully understand the weak force for years! Thanks for the vid.

  • @militantpacifist4087
    @militantpacifist4087 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The funny thing about the strong force is that it becomes weak at high energy levels.

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the weak force is stronger than the strong force at those energies.

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to know

  • @michalchik
    @michalchik ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. It might have been my question you were answering. I appreciate the Fuller deeper explanation. I see this TH-cam channel as the place to go when I listen to other educational channels and I'm left with questions because of their abbreviated or over simplified explanations of physics. I first really noticed that when you addressed the twin paradox without having to arbitrarily invoke acceleration.
    Would you consider doing a deep dive into the concepts are around Machs principle and the weird fact that acceleration is not relative? My guess is that it has something to do with the absolute geometry of space-time and the nature of causality, but I don't know.

  • @Homelander-ftw
    @Homelander-ftw ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:13 "Gravity is not a force" comments are incoming in 3... 2... 1...

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, they're rolling in.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually...
      ... never mind, keep looking at the funny cat.

  • @b4d0n10n
    @b4d0n10n ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes please on the deeper dives! The way you explain things is very intuitive (and comical at times) 😊

  • @hanswoast7
    @hanswoast7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to hear more details about how it works, about strength comparisons, particle energies for certain scenarios and stuff. As far as I understand it now, it should rather be called "rare force" than "weak force".

  • @mcnichollsdj
    @mcnichollsdj ปีที่แล้ว

    First time I've learnt something concrete about the weak nuclear force, rather than that, "It's responsible for some forms of radioactivity..." fob-off I normally read. Great, and good to have the fob-off explicitly acknowledged!

  • @AnimeForeLife
    @AnimeForeLife ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I miss your mustache

    • @MurseSamson
      @MurseSamson ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It was only held together by weak forces, and I'm sure it will recur from its own natural processes, given enough time. ⚛️😂

    • @killer414
      @killer414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The moustache had it's own gravitational field that hindered his other force fields

    • @bluejames3698
      @bluejames3698 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @jardel_lucca
      @jardel_lucca ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MurseSamsonLMAO

    • @EscapingHome
      @EscapingHome ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

  • @jonathanbyrdmusic
    @jonathanbyrdmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    . Loved this deeper dive. Thank you.

  • @luudest
    @luudest ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:36 is there a boat equivalent for attracting forces?

  • @terrywallace5181
    @terrywallace5181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. I needed this explanation.

  • @barefootalien
    @barefootalien ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd definitely love a longer, more in-depth video about the Weak Force. I wish your videos were much longer in general!
    I'd also love an explanation of the Pauli Exclusion Principle and how exactly it works, in terms of forces. I've heard so many conflicting explanations, each one stated with more gusto and certainty than the last, about something as simple as "why don't I fall through my chair?" and how that relates to "Why don't white dwarves collapse?"
    Obviously the latter is from electron degeneracy pressure, which is related to the Pauli Exclusion Principle, yet nobody ever describes _how_ that happens. Sure, okay, no two fermions can occupy the exact same quantum state, but when they try, something _stops_ them. This is presumably a force of some kind, because F=ma. Without that force, the particles would continue to move closer to each other. The fact that they don't, means there's a force... right? But what force is it?
    Similarly, I've heard descriptions of solid-solid object interactions as being governed by the electromagnetic force, but I've also seen very convincing claims, backed up by mathematical analysis, that says that would be far, far too weak, and that the real reason I don't fall through my chair is the Pauli Exclusion Principle, but... that seems very unlikely, and nobody has yet been able to explain to my satisfaction _how_ that happens.
    So I'd love a video that can answer this question. When two particles get near each other, enough that their wave functions begin to overlap and they become at-risk of sharing the same quantum state, *something happens* to prevent that. What is that something? So far whenever I ask that question, all I get is "The Pauli exclusion principle prevents it." But that's just a name for some words describing a concept. Without more concept beneath that to be revealed, it can't prevent _anything,_ you know? There's nothing in there that feels satisfying in the same way that electromagnetism, gravity, or even the strong or weak forces does.

    • @UDumFck
      @UDumFck ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent comment. I’ve wondered the same about white dwarves.

  • @DRoss-zt1io
    @DRoss-zt1io ปีที่แล้ว

    Please keep the deep dives coming, and sharpen more corners!

  • @massimiliano-oronzo
    @massimiliano-oronzo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prof. Lincoln, an off-topic argument: in a next video can you explain the problem of the self-energy of the electron and its solution by introducing what is known as mass renormalization?

  • @Tubluer
    @Tubluer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid, Don! The information density was very high on this one. I am pleased, and so is my cat. :)

  • @jaimeduran9423
    @jaimeduran9423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed your explanation of a force with two boats and also between two particles. This is the case of a repulsion force. I would like to see a similar explanation for an atractive force. Thank you.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron ปีที่แล้ว

      the ball has negative momentum

    • @jaimeduran9423
      @jaimeduran9423 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrDeuteron That is a non-intuitive mathematical explanation, not very understandable.

    • @thedeemon
      @thedeemon ปีที่แล้ว

      one can imagine people on a big rug pulling the rug from each other. These are no more than vague illustrations/metaphors, don't expect them to correspond precisely to quantum processes.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaimeduran9423 well virtual particles have the energy and momentum required to conserve energy and momentum between the two real particles, after the fact. So in a bound circular orbit, that would be energy = 0, momentum < 0, mass--> imaginary.
      plus: the exchange is not time ordered...it's not like one emits and the other absorbs. There is no intuitive value to the analogy.

  • @adoggy1111
    @adoggy1111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't say enough good things about Don. Keep it up champ

  • @gustav3d
    @gustav3d ปีที่แล้ว

    You are extremely talented at explaining complex stuff . Thanks !

  • @denysvlasenko1865
    @denysvlasenko1865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a video would be helpful which would show simplified Standard Model's Lagrangian and explain how you can "read off", without any calculations, what its terms actually mean: how you can see which particles can interact, what determines the strength of interactions, what terms are not allowed by postulated symmetries of the theory, and what this means.
    A LOT of people watching these videos never actually dab into math of the theory. Some seem to even coming to the conclusion that "science" is just some sciency-sounding words strung together and lots of handwaving (and they mimic this with hilarious results). They genuinely do not understand that there is actual rigorous mathematical "meat" beneath it, the handwaving is actually not allowed as a part of the theory. Everything has to logically come out of the math. IOW: they have rather erroneous understanding how science works. This is worth improving.

  • @GM-o6i
    @GM-o6i ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the excellent video. Actually, you have defined the general concept of a force, which means to change a state of an object - a particle's position, its identity, its quantum state, etc. A physicist comes to this general concept of a force when he or she steps into the philosophy of physics.

  • @michaelwalsh6913
    @michaelwalsh6913 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know I’m late to this video and to your channel, but wanted to confirm that deep dives like this are very welcome.

  • @Lb-rg6jg
    @Lb-rg6jg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    after watching this video twice, I have even more questions regarding the weak force, essentially, I'm wondering if the mass of the W+ boson needed to have an interaction is so low, how does it even produce any effect on the receiving quark ? 0.01 GeV doesn't seem like it's a very significant amount (at least to me). Also why does the emission of such a low mass force carrier have so much of an effect that it causes to quarks to change it's sub-type ?
    Thanks again for these great videos, I'm always willing to learn more about particle physics,

    • @snakepliskin6391
      @snakepliskin6391 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have another question to extend that. Why does it affect the particle releasing it so much and does the mass of the W boson affect how much each one moves? And when a particle emits a W boson with too high mass for the weak force does it change its own trajectory or just emit the W boson?

  • @imagine.o.universo
    @imagine.o.universo ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this "range of mass" applied to all particles or only to the W boson?

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In principle, all. However, if a particle is stable, the range is super small. If the particle is short-lived, the range is large.

    • @imagine.o.universo
      @imagine.o.universo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drdon5205 thank you!

  • @lsdap1969
    @lsdap1969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Don,
    I'm an avid fan of the videos you release on a regular basis and grateful for the hard work you put into making particle physics more accesible to the audience. I was wondering if there would be on option of making a video regarding weak hypercharge and weak isospin with the perspective of how and why (to our best understanding) matter gains charge as this has been buggin me for a while now.
    I understand that currently our understanding and explanation is that there needs to be a conserved quantity for every symmetry (thank you Emmy) however you of all people should be aware how new perspective of various attempts of explaining the same phenomenon could lead to new insights for some people

  • @SimonClarkstone
    @SimonClarkstone ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00 I thought that the Strong force was responsible for holding quarks together in a proton, but protons attarcted each other via exchange of low-mass mesons, not the Strong force?
    Or do the low-mass mesons cound as part of the Strong force?

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron ปีที่แล้ว

      this is a major topic in physics. QCD (quarks gluon) is the fundamental theory. The meson-exchange is called an Effective Field Theory, a low energy approximation,. and the math is brutal.

  • @RadoslavFicko
    @RadoslavFicko ปีที่แล้ว

    The electrostatic potential energy can also be written in the form Ue = h*c*a*N1*N2/R , where (a) is the fine structure constant, R is the distance between two particles N1 and N2 . if for the Compton wavelength, (h/m*c)*(1-cos(x))=∆R /*c. , then can we define the Compton potential energy? Uc=h*c*(1-cos(x))*N1*N2/∆R and Uc=mc^2 , where ∆R is the difference of the wavelengths of the photon N1 before the collision, and the same photon after the collision N2 .The resulting potential energy is always equal to the rest energy of the particle( e.g. electron) with which the photon collided ????

    • @RadoslavFicko
      @RadoslavFicko ปีที่แล้ว

      By the first relation is meant the reduced Planck constant h = h/2pi , Ue = (h/2pi)*c*a*N1*N2/R

  • @caperider1160
    @caperider1160 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one explained weak force like you did. Thank you

  • @TerryClarkAccordioncrazy
    @TerryClarkAccordioncrazy ปีที่แล้ว

    This answers a question that bugged me for a long time. Thanks, and please more deep dives.

  • @SkorjOlafsen
    @SkorjOlafsen ปีที่แล้ว

    Always great to see another video by Dr Don!

  • @anandapatmanabhansu
    @anandapatmanabhansu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is different about weak force, what causes this force. I have read about unification of electromagnetic and weak force, what does it mean.

  • @christaylor8956
    @christaylor8956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always.
    Is there a reason that it is only lower mass W/Z bosons that govern decay interactions? Why does the emission of a higher mass W boson not cause a similar decay event?

  • @TreyRuiz
    @TreyRuiz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like the question that inspired this video, could the exclusion principal be considered a force? It keeps neutron stars from collapsing, right?

  • @1958ARo
    @1958ARo ปีที่แล้ว

    At about 5:56 … was that incorrectly spoken „with a mass of 0.001 GeV“ as the center of the curve is still slightly above 80 GeV, and only the spread has narrowed enormously?

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope. Of order 1 MeV.

  • @comesignotus9888
    @comesignotus9888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely need a deeper dive with explanations of how neutrinos interact using the weak force.

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you know how quarks interact with it?
      Think of that, but keep in mind that a neutrino is a "down lepton" while an electron is an "up lepton".

    • @denysvlasenko1865
      @denysvlasenko1865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@orbismworldbuilding8428 > a neutrino is a "down lepton" while an electron is an "up lepton".
      The opposite. e- needs to emit W- to become a neutrino. d needs to emit W- to become an u. Thus, electron is a "down"-type particle, and neutrino is "up"

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@denysvlasenko1865 oh cool! I didn't know that
      Very good to know

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@denysvlasenko1865 thank you!

  • @senseofeverthing
    @senseofeverthing ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm interested in quantum- and astrophysics since I was a child, but I never heared of the mass-distribution until now. You, Sir, blew my mind today.

  • @freshname
    @freshname ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much. It is definitely the best (which means the most concise yet not oversimplified) physics TH-cam channel. Fermilab did the God's work when decided to launch it and promote real scientific knowledge on every platform possible.

  • @DavidBeddard
    @DavidBeddard ปีที่แล้ว

    Exeedingly interesting, Dr Lincoln! Thank you!

  • @DonBrowningRacing
    @DonBrowningRacing ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! I want to hear more! How what when where and why did we learn about this weak force?

  • @mahyar305
    @mahyar305 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work an thanks, please do the "deep dive" into this topic

  • @dinnoel3147
    @dinnoel3147 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Lincoln, would you mind to do another deep dive? Into Mass. why is it considered intrinsic property of a particle? Why doesn’t mass of a lepton change when it “swallows” a boson?

  • @mikebmcl
    @mikebmcl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does a W boson have a mass that varies during it's life and is most often around 80.3 GeV or does it come into existence with a mass that is fixed during it's life and it most often forms around 80.3 GeV? Is there a way we can know and would things be significantly different one way or the other?

    • @Mernom
      @Mernom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe that particles that act as force mediators are considered to be virtual particles, and those are a lot more flexible than their standard variants.

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are created with a non-expected mass and keep that mass until they disappear. They are indeed "virtual" as Mernom says.

    • @Milan_Openfeint
      @Milan_Openfeint ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mernom So Dr.D was talking about virtual particles? But these can't be weighted at all, because ... they're virtual? If they are just some excitations of W field, why aren't the lightest excitations more probable? That part was super confusing.

  • @tisdali
    @tisdali ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So if the weak force is the only force which can change a particles identity, does that mean the weak force is involved in pair production? Or is that another simplification? Also, if elementary particles can have a range of masses, and the only thing distinguishing the muon from the electron is its mass, why do we distinguish them as particles at all? Is it that we see another peak in the likely masses of the 'electron'? Or is it instead to do with that muons can (and do) decay into electrons via (I think) the weak interaction?

    • @tisdali
      @tisdali ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or is the mass distribution just for bosons, or just for the w and z bosons? Wait can the higgs field/ interaction be counted as a force by the same argument? Can the higgs boson appear at (much) lower energies than its supposed mass, and if this is necessary for an interaction to occur, why is having mass a common event given that it would be considered unlikely for the boson to appear? If not necessary for an interaction to occur (which is actually my current understanding- just that mass distribution got me asking lol) what effect does a higgs boson appearing actually have on particles around it? Does the mass distribution help explain how a charm quark can appear in the nucleus? Or does that require uncertainty principle energy borrowing? (think I've just made that terminology up but hey I hope u get the idea) SO MANY QUESTIONS! (lol)

  • @yvindharila8225
    @yvindharila8225 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a way to increase the strenght og the weak force? Increase the energy maybe? Dose high energy neutrinos interact more than low energy neutrinos?

  • @jeffreymartin8448
    @jeffreymartin8448 ปีที่แล้ว

    When a particle like a quark absorbs a force carrier particle where does the force carrier particle go? What does absorb mean? When a particle emits a force carrier particle where does it come from and what causes the particle to emit it?

  • @dogussahin
    @dogussahin ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video to put the word “force” into a better context. However I still struggle the interchangeable use of force and energy in physics world. Where they mean the same thing, where they differ, can you also make a video on that?

  • @jeremyrixon150
    @jeremyrixon150 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I've been wondering about this for years!

  • @miinyoo
    @miinyoo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe a followup question to this generalized to all short range force interactions. Can we measure quantitatively the time differential between one particle emitting a force carrier and another absorbing it thereby demonstrating that the emission of a force carrier happens before that boson interacts with the eventual particle which absorbs it? Similarly, can they only be emitted under the influence of a potential receiving particle (ignoring vacuum fluctuations)? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the process of causality going on and if the proximity of influence matters even in the case of neutral particles. I would think we know this from collider experiments but I've never seen this tiny scale of time analyzed in the way that I'm asking the question. If it's even reasonable to ask in the first place, but there have been many things we thought were instantaneous but aren't such as valence electron energy transitions which do happen in a finite amount of time as we have measured with attosecond lasers.
    I know we can measure electromagnetism's time differential from emission to absorption and that radiation is proximity independent and doesn't need the influence of anything to be emitted but I'm not sure about Strong and Weak interactions.

  • @morningstarkid07
    @morningstarkid07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do gauge bosons ever miss their “target“ when being exchanged? If so does that mean there are free-floating bosons all over the place? If not, how are they “aimed” so perfectly? Does this question not even make sense due to some fundamental misunderstanding I have? I’d really love to know the answer/answers.

    • @denysvlasenko1865
      @denysvlasenko1865 ปีที่แล้ว

      > Do gauge bosons ever miss their “target“ when being exchanged?
      No.

    • @thedeemon
      @thedeemon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They don't miss because they are not like real random particles floating around. They are a way to describe quantum fields behaviour, mathematical building blocks. To compute evolution from initial state over time, you need to use something like e^(-iHt) where H is an operator made from elementary particle creation & annihilation operators, we expand e^.. into sum of infinite series of expressions involving more and more applications of particle creation & annihilation operators, and then we can interpret these expressions via Feynman diagrams with intermediate particles created and annihilated in those expressions interpreted as virtual particles. They are unobservable directly and are not parts of initial and final states, they are just parts of a big expression showing how evolution of fields goes. They are always mathematically a part of the process somewhere between real particles of initial state and real particles of final state, sandwiched between them, going from one real particle to another, so they don't miss. See wiki articles on S-Matrix and Dyson series, and of course Virtual particles page.

    • @morningstarkid07
      @morningstarkid07 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@denysvlasenko1865 Thank you for the detailed reply! How is it that we can detect bosons in particle accelerators if they only appear virtually in these interactions? How do we measure their mass?

  • @NotSoHeavyD3
    @NotSoHeavyD3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got to ask, is the pauli exclusion principle a force? I read that it and electromagnetism makes things solid. So when I grab an object I can feel it pushing back on my hand which seems like a force. It also prevents objects like a white dwarf from always collapsing into a black hole.(Unless it's so massive it overcomes it.) Is it a force or is it caused by one of the 4 fundamental forces or something else?

    • @thedeemon
      @thedeemon ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. Indeed if we use Don's definition, it acts like a force. But it doesn't involve exchange of virtual particles, so it's not one of those interactions, it's a different phenomenon coming from properties of fermions themselves.

  • @classicaudioadventures
    @classicaudioadventures ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see more deep dives, Dr. Lincoln!

  • @larrywebber2971
    @larrywebber2971 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with many that the deeper dives are very interesting and I personally would like to see more of them.

  • @mandelbraught2728
    @mandelbraught2728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Don, thanks so much for this, it definitely clarified some things for me wrt the Weak force. I am continually baffled by it. But I have to say at the end I was left slightly confuzzled about the changing a particle's identity. Like, after the thing about quarks exchanging momentum I felt like it was all making good sense, but then the identity thing seems like it's out of left field. I don't understand how that operation is a "force"? Or, I guess, how those two interactions are the workings of the same force.

    • @JonBrase
      @JonBrase ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The W boson carries weak and electromagnetic charges, so a particle has to change type to emit a W boson. It's the exchange of bosons that constitutes a force, but for weak interactions involving the W boson, identity changing is necessary for conserved quantities to balance as the W boson is exchanged.
      Gluons carry a strong charge (called "color"), so the strong force technically also changes particles identities, but all the types of color charge exist for all the types of quark, and we don't see quarks outside of hadrons, so the identity change that happens with the strong force is more subtle to begin with and its basically irrelevant at human scales (whereas the electron from a beta decay can travel long distances).

  • @Naturamorpho
    @Naturamorpho ปีที่แล้ว

    The hardest to understand of the forces, in an easy to understand video!

  • @tru7hhimself
    @tru7hhimself ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that just sparks more questions. are there environments or interactions where the weak force carriers can act with their most likely masses? and how does the changing of identities work? also if a bottom quark emits a (heavy) w boson how can it leave behind an (also heavy) charm quark; wouldn't heavier particles rather decay into lighter ones?

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do generally decay into lighter ones. The bottom quark has about 4 times the mass of the charm quark.

    • @tru7hhimself
      @tru7hhimself ปีที่แล้ว

      @@narfwhals7843 oh, that explains it. i confused the down with the bottom

  • @darrellee8194
    @darrellee8194 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally and explanation that makes sense. Thanks.

  • @Alex-iwe8ke9dds
    @Alex-iwe8ke9dds ปีที่แล้ว

    A great, short explanation about something that should had been learned when we learned about this force.

  • @louismcsomas
    @louismcsomas ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are always amazing. Great content, thank you

  • @ignaciogajardo4898
    @ignaciogajardo4898 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love this channel, i just espontaneously came with this exact question and i found an entire video,

  • @get2113
    @get2113 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr Don is excellent. He is as good, if not better, than other physicists with omline videos.

  • @MrOnsightfree
    @MrOnsightfree ปีที่แล้ว

    Soo at 6:40 when the top quark emits a W+ and thereby decays to a bottom quark, it also should change direction?
    Is it a slight mistake in the video or is there any cut corners worth knowing?
    (Like i could imagine decaying emits a super low energy/mass W+ therefore the change in moving direction is almost not visible?)

    • @drdon5205
      @drdon5205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does indeed recoil. But the kinematics weren't being emphasized there, so that aspect of the emission wasn't included.

  • @laura-ann.0726
    @laura-ann.0726 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read somewhere that in the first few seconds of cosmic inflation, the weak interaction and the electromagnetic force were unified - they were not separate forces. This was when the temperature of the universe was still in trillions of degrees, and quarks were in a state analagous to plasma - they had not yet condensed to form neutrons and protons. I'd love to see Dr. Lincoln do a video on what this very early universe was like, and what the electro-weak force was like.

  • @_rojer9065
    @_rojer9065 ปีที่แล้ว

    The heavy sack and boat analogy made so much sense on recoil 🙌🏼

  • @Erik-gg2vb
    @Erik-gg2vb ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to learn more. With a Z Boson X100 heavier than a proton they must only be generated in accelerators or a Super Nova event and decay very soon after being made?

  • @cudaman-yq7pq
    @cudaman-yq7pq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, now I understand the weak force much better. However, I'm confused by your description of gravity as a force, I thought it was a "fictitious" force, i.e. particles follow geodesic paths through spacetime unless acted upon by one of the three quantum forces.

    • @denysvlasenko1865
      @denysvlasenko1865 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends on the model you use to describe gravity. In "classical" Einstein GR, tensor g is a metric, but it can also be treated as a tensor FIELD, and you relatively easily arrive at quantum gravity theory, where tensor field g is quantized at usual, so gravitation becomes exchange of these quanta, "gravitons" - just like all other forces! (The problem is that such theory is not renormalizable, but what this means, and especially how to fix this, is not entirely clear).

  • @breadfan262
    @breadfan262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome vid. I never understood the weak force very well. I feel enlightened.