I feel Justin Gaethje is what happens when a fighter that is super talented and gifted physically and mentally, finds an amazing coach that can draw out their full potential. Justin is one of the hardest hitters in the game. Him and Coach Wittman are a formidable combo. It's inspiring to watch these
@@cristobalbalenciaga7295 That wasn't Trevor's decision as far as I'm concerned. Justin has said in interviews that he doesn't fight to win, he fights to entertain and wants people to feel fortunate that they watched him fight. That's why he keeps fights on his feet and avoids takedowns and submissions.
@@cristobalbalenciaga7295 Gaethje is not a wordclass wrestler. Every NCAA wrestler that doesn't hit the olympics and one tricks in freestyle they suck I'm sorry. There is a reason Russians have been smacking most Americans for so long and it's the judo background in their sambo. Americans only win against Russians when they rely purely on explosive takedowns to score then they reset because they can't scramble or get pins to save their life.
I picked up this lift concept from watching Tyson hit the heavy bag in super slow motion and trying to replicate it. I found I hooked a lot harder when not only turning from my hips and shoulders but also mini-squatting with the strike. I did not know you can do this with cross.
I noticed Alex Pereira does the same thing with his leg movement, you can visibly seem him bobbing- it's probably part of the reason he hits so damn hard.
This seems like the opposite of what you want. You want to sink down as you punch. Sure you then have to lift a bit after the shot so you can sink again on the next punch, but no one good goes up as they punch unless they are doing a jumping punch like a leaping jab or gazelle hook.
In some situations, you are right. But for him to push off the ground requires dropping his weight *even if you can't see it*. The next step is to reduce the amount of head raising to zero. And finally learn to drop the head for max power. You are trying to run before walking (probably because you are naturally athletic, unlike me).
johnny from expert boxing says the opposite, he talks about how a punch is an implosion where you sit down or contract inwards and downward as u punch at the moment of impact. its like when u try to push a wall, if u pop up and push, little force is there, if u sit and contract downwards, plenty force is there. what do u think ? to the end of the video when he was dropping down to hit the power shots, he was not popping up. he dipped down and hit form the bottom position then popped up. except the uppercut of course. am i incorrect? also i will add that jack dempsey's fighting style and power generation technique was called the jack dempsey falling step's, look it up. it involved a tiny hop and the punch lands when the body is falling back to the ground that way the power of the punch is magnified due to gravity and the mass or your body. mike tyson used this. ramsey dewy made a video about this. i use this and its legit. sure there may be some punches that involve upward motion eg variations of superman punching but ........
@@drphill7561 I actually found Johnny after years of no learning at various gyms. Like I said, I'm not naturally athletic and it took him breaking it ALL the way down to potato head before I started feeling an improvement. He's so good. But Coach Wittman here is teaching the rise so you feel the dropping weight by push down off the ground. This is useful to noobs or people who aren't natural athletes but it's also useful in the middle of a fight where it can be hard to keep good form. You (and Johnny) aren't wrong bjt this type of instruction is not meant to be taken as perfect form. It's an awareness training exercise, like when he was oicking up the weight, setting it down, and immediately uppercutting. The extra weight is not to build muscle, its to build *awareness* through increased load. Similarly the up bounce is to make sure you are pushing down (becaise how else can you move up!). And thanks for being so thorough and polite in your comment. I have a feeling that most if the internet tough guys and people who get annoyed easy don't train much or at all. I mean, getting your technique right is way harder and more annoying than yt comments.
i think you are observing from a boxing standpoint and assuming you are throwing straight punches from a high guard. furthermore, if your fists start anywhere lower than your target, it will have to fly in some parabola type shape, so you have to "lift" your punch before you can contract downwards.
Great video, explanation and demonstration. Its just great they both share their knowledge and skill. I would really like to understand the difference (if there is one) between lifting and dropping weight in a e.g. straight shot. Lets say one throws a cross. You can do that with lifting, like shown in the video or with a dropstep. In one case you're targeting the hit while you lift the weight, in one case while you settle and drop the weight. Have heard both. Any thoughts on that?
Hey coach , have a question, and is how to transfer this technique to sparring? , the pace of both is faster in that moment, for me is difricult cause usually I throw faster punches and forgot the proper technique and the consequences is the lack of power in my punches.
I've seen this video almost ten times.. but can't reconcile "sitting down" on your cross vs using leg power to push from the ground. Is one theoretically / fundamentally more powerful than the other?
Does the shoes you matter wear ? Would you recommend wearing wrestling shoes or boxing shoes , does wear regular running shoes or tennis shoes mess up these drills?
johnny from expert boxing says the opposite, he talks about how a punch is an implosion where you sit down or contract inwards and downward as u punch at the moment of impact. its like when u try to push a wall, if u pop up and push, little force is there, if u sit and contract downwards, plenty force is there. what do u think ? to the end of the video when he was dropping down to hit the power shots, he was not popping up. he dipped down and hit form the bottom position then popped up. except the uppercut of course. am i incorrect? also i will add that jack dempsey's fighting style and power generation technique was called the jack dempsey falling step's, look it up. it involved a tiny hop and the punch lands when the body is falling back to the ground that way the power of the punch is magnified due to gravity and the mass or your body. mike tyson used this. ramsey dewy made a video about this. i use this and its legit. sure there may be some punches that involve upward motion eg variations of superman punching but ........
Idk but consider boxing is fought at a much closer range than MMA so it’s more limited in movement strategies and can be better to focus on sharp quick movements on the inside because your opponent is much more often going to be staying in punching range. Even with that said there’s def countless boxers who have cues from both not like there’s a right or wrong answer.
both works dude… the thing with explaining motoric skills is, that people try to force them too actively and always tense up and end up trying too hard.. in the end the only thing that matters is, that after impact of the fist, the body must have the structure and ground contact to handle the recoil of the force transmitted into the bag or the opponent.. will you bounce of the bag, or will the bag bounce of your fist ? this happens fractions AFTER contact, not just before as most ppl explain. You can get that effect of winning the battle of recoiling force with both approches… sitting “down” or resist with an invisible bounce of the calve muscles (or grabing the ground with your toes). The tall approach with the leg thing is a little better to stay mobile with footwork or for combos in my oppinion. Dont think to much just go to the heavybag and practice to just FEEL without form, without a guard and a first only low punches in solar plexus height… then go SLOW and let loose like a literal DEAD person and dont worry about force generation but ONLY about transmittion.. dont even tense up even not at the last milimeter before impact (or else you will push and not crush like a wave of water).. in fact dont tense up actively at all but only let your body resist the recoil.. You worrying about the attempt of jonnys explanation or the others guys shows me that you dont yet have hard and unforced punches or else you would know that all those explenations are just attempts of people to describe what they feel subjectively and that in reality its just about letting dead body weight crush and then resist the rebound after impact
There are different ways todo things, but this is the exact opposite of what I think. Generally, the head should drop on your punches, sitting down with them.
I mean it’s basically focused on leg strength. So it should be in one fluid motion. Resetting into a guard would take the tension off the legs. That's the opposite of what this exercise is trying to do
@7:49 Another great drill, but I would have him focus on throwing the strike at his opponent's head height, not mid chest level. How we train is how we fight and we should train for fighters larger than us...
But lowering your body physically can’t generate force greater than that from pushing your body. That’s basic physics that something going up has to have more force behind it than something falling down because it’s fighting gravity.
@@buckets3628 nah man your wrong the energy from sinking down activatethe quads and glutes while also sending energy down then up watch this th-cam.com/video/rkCfc0BFeAY/w-d-xo.html
@@hectorcervantes2558 Certainly not wrong it’s basic physics and anatomy. in that video the dudes body literally moves up as his hardest punch lands just like this video explained so I don’t see your point.
@@buckets3628 johnny from expert boxing says the opposite, he talks about how a punch is an implosion where you sit down or contract inwards and downward as u punch at the moment of impact. its like when u try to push a wall, if u pop up and push, little force is there, if u sit and contract downwards, plenty force is there. what do u think ? to the end of the video when he was dropping down to hit the power shots, he was not popping up. he dipped down and hit form the bottom position then popped up. except the uppercut of course. am i incorrect? also i will add that jack dempsey's fighting style and power generation technique was called the jack dempsey falling step's, look it up. it involved a tiny hop and the punch lands when the body is falling back to the ground that way the power of the punch is magnified due to gravity and the mass or your body. mike tyson used this. ramsey dewy made a video about this. i use this and its legit. sure there may be some punches that involve upward motion eg variations of superman punching but ........
@6:55 Another great drill, but I'd like to see him sitting on the punch (taking advantage of that vertical potential energy) and fully rotating on the rear foot, rather than driving forward onto the toes.
I feel Justin Gaethje is what happens when a fighter that is super talented and gifted physically and mentally, finds an amazing coach that can draw out their full potential. Justin is one of the hardest hitters in the game. Him and Coach Wittman are a formidable combo. It's inspiring to watch these
But trevor didn’t bring out his full potential. He just turned a worldclass wrestler into a technical strikers who forgot how to wrestle.
@@cristobalbalenciaga7295 That wasn't Trevor's decision as far as I'm concerned. Justin has said in interviews that he doesn't fight to win, he fights to entertain and wants people to feel fortunate that they watched him fight. That's why he keeps fights on his feet and avoids takedowns and submissions.
BMF
@@cristobalbalenciaga7295 Gaethje is not a wordclass wrestler. Every NCAA wrestler that doesn't hit the olympics and one tricks in freestyle they suck I'm sorry. There is a reason Russians have been smacking most Americans for so long and it's the judo background in their sambo. Americans only win against Russians when they rely purely on explosive takedowns to score then they reset because they can't scramble or get pins to save their life.
Every content that involves Trevor is always appreciated.
I second that. Like he had a great video about rhythm stepping/ timing the jab. Real good stuff
Sounds like a GOAT
Why..?
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I feel like im cheating being able to watch content ljke this for free
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I agree 👍
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Bot comment?
This would have been behind a paywall.
To be able to get coaching from Trevor with Justin right there is crazy lol. I'm using this stuff.
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I picked up this lift concept from watching Tyson hit the heavy bag in super slow motion and trying to replicate it. I found I hooked a lot harder when not only turning from my hips and shoulders but also mini-squatting with the strike. I did not know you can do this with cross.
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Trevor is just the man. He turned Gaethje into the bmfer I've ever had the privilege to watch.
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I noticed Alex Pereira does the same thing with his leg movement, you can visibly seem him bobbing- it's probably part of the reason he hits so damn hard.
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its not cause hes made of actual stone??
8:47 The rotation added to the push from the ground creates a spiraling force. Great coaching by the way!
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I have an issue of shadow boxing like the way he mentioned, definitely rewatching this a couple times to improve
I really like Trevor’s style of coaching videos always appreciated 🙏🏼
Gaethje is a machine!
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the words Justin Gaethje HIT like TRUCK ring so true here WOW, how the fwk did ferguson walk out alive
haha
This is a great lesson! Increased drive and power in the strikes plus head movement through the legs! Great video!
Best boxing coach in MMA. 💪
Love it when I find them gems.
For me this always feels better. Im a short guy and it feels better to pop up instead of sinking down
Thank you! This so helpful results don't lie ! Justin is now the bmf
Love u Trevor Whiteman you the man all these Gem much love and appreciation for your knowledge and skill set and share so very appreciated!!!
Thanks a Lot! This is gold, tell Justin everyone loved him in México 🇲🇽
Love both of these guys.
The chanel is so fancy that former interim champ and current BMF title as an actor, well done. We need more of this.
That right uppercut tho!😮
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Genius instruction 🧠
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Bradar this guy hit like truck
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he had chandler clean with that uppercut . love your work guys
awesome lesson thanks
I correct my mistakes in shadowboxing
thanks, Trevor and Justin
this grandpa is dangerous, real dangerous bro
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Very underrated. Thank you!!
This info is gold!!! Thank you!!!
More Trevor please
This seems like the opposite of what you want. You want to sink down as you punch. Sure you then have to lift a bit after the shot so you can sink again on the next punch, but no one good goes up as they punch unless they are doing a jumping punch like a leaping jab or gazelle hook.
In some situations, you are right. But for him to push off the ground requires dropping his weight *even if you can't see it*. The next step is to reduce the amount of head raising to zero. And finally learn to drop the head for max power. You are trying to run before walking (probably because you are naturally athletic, unlike me).
exactly
johnny from expert boxing says the opposite, he talks about how a punch is an implosion where you sit down or contract inwards and downward as u punch at the moment of impact. its like when u try to push a wall, if u pop up and push, little force is there, if u sit and contract downwards, plenty force is there. what do u think ? to the end of the video when he was dropping down to hit the power shots, he was not popping up. he dipped down and hit form the bottom position then popped up. except the uppercut of course. am i incorrect? also i will add that jack dempsey's fighting style and power generation technique was called the jack dempsey falling step's, look it up. it involved a tiny hop and the punch lands when the body is falling back to the ground that way the power of the punch is magnified due to gravity and the mass or your body. mike tyson used this. ramsey dewy made a video about this. i use this and its legit. sure there may be some punches that involve upward motion eg variations of superman punching but ........
@@drphill7561 I actually found Johnny after years of no learning at various gyms. Like I said, I'm not naturally athletic and it took him breaking it ALL the way down to potato head before I started feeling an improvement. He's so good. But Coach Wittman here is teaching the rise so you feel the dropping weight by push down off the ground. This is useful to noobs or people who aren't natural athletes but it's also useful in the middle of a fight where it can be hard to keep good form. You (and Johnny) aren't wrong bjt this type of instruction is not meant to be taken as perfect form. It's an awareness training exercise, like when he was oicking up the weight, setting it down, and immediately uppercutting. The extra weight is not to build muscle, its to build *awareness* through increased load. Similarly the up bounce is to make sure you are pushing down (becaise how else can you move up!).
And thanks for being so thorough and polite in your comment. I have a feeling that most if the internet tough guys and people who get annoyed easy don't train much or at all. I mean, getting your technique right is way harder and more annoying than yt comments.
i think you are observing from a boxing standpoint and assuming you are throwing straight punches from a high guard. furthermore, if your fists start anywhere lower than your target, it will have to fly in some parabola type shape, so you have to "lift" your punch before you can contract downwards.
Great teaching! Thanks
That was goooowd. Trevor Whitman is the best 👌
So this is why Justin hits like a sledge hammer.
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How do these concepts fit in with sitting down on your punches?
Great video, explanation and demonstration. Its just great they both share their knowledge and skill.
I would really like to understand the difference (if there is one) between lifting and dropping weight in a e.g. straight shot.
Lets say one throws a cross. You can do that with lifting, like shown in the video or with a dropstep. In one case you're targeting the hit while you lift the weight, in one case while you settle and drop the weight.
Have heard both.
Any thoughts on that?
❤❤ very nice 👍 thank u so much
And we know Justin's uppercuts are nasty 💪
Why Justin hits like a truck
Justin Gaethje is a beast! 💪🏽🤛🏽👊🏽👏🏽
My coach used to teach this principle but said this would not work in combos because combos would naturally relies on rotational powers. Any tips?
100%, just try, can't do it well.
Hey coach , have a question, and is how to transfer this technique to sparring? , the pace of both is faster in that moment, for me is difricult cause usually I throw faster punches and forgot the proper technique and the consequences is the lack of power in my punches.
EXCELLENT!
I've seen this video almost ten times.. but can't reconcile "sitting down" on your cross vs using leg power to push from the ground. Is one theoretically / fundamentally more powerful than the other?
Excellent
may i know what brand of shoes are they wearing? thank you
Does the shoes you matter wear ? Would you recommend wearing wrestling shoes or boxing shoes , does wear regular running shoes or tennis shoes mess up these drills?
Sounds like A GOAT
Wanna see more of gaethji
These videos are about how to be the BMF in the UFC.
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Max was here
Does anyone know what shoe Justin Gaethje here is wearing? Also the pants!
Jesus! imagine getting hit flush with that left hook from justin
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Wow amazing video man soo smart exécute ´´´explane all in top
I want to join UFC what will I do for it from Pakistan there is no way to reach ufc
johnny from expert boxing says the opposite, he talks about how a punch is an implosion where you sit down or contract inwards and downward as u punch at the moment of impact. its like when u try to push a wall, if u pop up and push, little force is there, if u sit and contract downwards, plenty force is there. what do u think ? to the end of the video when he was dropping down to hit the power shots, he was not popping up. he dipped down and hit form the bottom position then popped up. except the uppercut of course. am i incorrect? also i will add that jack dempsey's fighting style and power generation technique was called the jack dempsey falling step's, look it up. it involved a tiny hop and the punch lands when the body is falling back to the ground that way the power of the punch is magnified due to gravity and the mass or your body. mike tyson used this. ramsey dewy made a video about this. i use this and its legit. sure there may be some punches that involve upward motion eg variations of superman punching but ........
Idk but consider boxing is fought at a much closer range than MMA so it’s more limited in movement strategies and can be better to focus on sharp quick movements on the inside because your opponent is much more often going to be staying in punching range. Even with that said there’s def countless boxers who have cues from both not like there’s a right or wrong answer.
you have to consider where your punch initiates from. it is hard to believe that every power punch you throw originates from above your target
@@emptyclips800 true and difference of height to opponent also distance will affect the angle, good point
both works dude… the thing with explaining motoric skills is, that people try to force them too actively and always tense up and end up trying too hard.. in the end the only thing that matters is, that after impact of the fist, the body must have the structure and ground contact to handle the recoil of the force transmitted into the bag or the opponent.. will you bounce of the bag, or will the bag bounce of your fist ? this happens fractions AFTER contact, not just before as most ppl explain. You can get that effect of winning the battle of recoiling force with both approches… sitting “down” or resist with an invisible bounce of the calve muscles (or grabing the ground with your toes). The tall approach with the leg thing is a little better to stay mobile with footwork or for combos in my oppinion. Dont think to much just go to the heavybag and practice to just FEEL without form, without a guard and a first only low punches in solar plexus height… then go SLOW and let loose like a literal DEAD person and dont worry about force generation but ONLY about transmittion.. dont even tense up even not at the last milimeter before impact (or else you will push and not crush like a wave of water).. in fact dont tense up actively at all but only let your body resist the recoil..
You worrying about the attempt of jonnys explanation or the others guys shows me that you dont yet have hard and unforced punches or else you would know that all those explenations are just attempts of people to describe what they feel subjectively and that in reality its just about letting dead body weight crush and then resist the rebound after impact
@@osmanacmiyun6023 My guy spitting FACTS
Somebody knows what shoes Justin wears?
you found those?
@@jacksonvahue4275 no :-(
I know this is old now, but conors coach be rewatching this video in 0.25x speed
Nice 🙏
There are different ways todo things, but this is the exact opposite of what I think. Generally, the head should drop on your punches, sitting down with them.
duran style
@5:08 I love this exercise. The only thing I would change is that after putting the ball down, the uppercut should be thrown from a guard position.
I mean it’s basically focused on leg strength. So it should be in one fluid motion. Resetting into a guard would take the tension off the legs. That's the opposite of what this exercise is trying to do
Goohood
If your tactic is "lucky punch" aka "one KO shot" it will work sure, not for combos and definitely not for boxing match, mma yeah
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Isn't it a bit like the soviet pendulum ?
@7:49 Another great drill, but I would have him focus on throwing the strike at his opponent's head height, not mid chest level. How we train is how we fight and we should train for fighters larger than us...
Justin should work on his wrestle and jiujitsu, his striking is refined enough.
He is a Champion wrestler
@@michel7angelo459 no, he wasn't.
imagine stealing from fouts
Trevor, where are them got damned MMA gloves? These $350 been waiting for you bruh!
Everyone going to talk shit but u do not lift with your punch's you sink down
hey i just posted a comment about this asking them about this. this is the same thing i'm saying
But lowering your body physically can’t generate force greater than that from pushing your body. That’s basic physics that something going up has to have more force behind it than something falling down because it’s fighting gravity.
@@buckets3628 nah man your wrong the energy from sinking down activatethe quads and glutes while also sending energy down then up watch this th-cam.com/video/rkCfc0BFeAY/w-d-xo.html
@@hectorcervantes2558 Certainly not wrong it’s basic physics and anatomy. in that video the dudes body literally moves up as his hardest punch lands just like this video explained so I don’t see your point.
@@buckets3628 johnny from expert boxing says the opposite, he talks about how a punch is an implosion where you sit down or contract inwards and downward as u punch at the moment of impact. its like when u try to push a wall, if u pop up and push, little force is there, if u sit and contract downwards, plenty force is there. what do u think ? to the end of the video when he was dropping down to hit the power shots, he was not popping up. he dipped down and hit form the bottom position then popped up. except the uppercut of course. am i incorrect? also i will add that jack dempsey's fighting style and power generation technique was called the jack dempsey falling step's, look it up. it involved a tiny hop and the punch lands when the body is falling back to the ground that way the power of the punch is magnified due to gravity and the mass or your body. mike tyson used this. ramsey dewy made a video about this. i use this and its legit. sure there may be some punches that involve upward motion eg variations of superman punching but ........
@6:55 Another great drill, but I'd like to see him sitting on the punch (taking advantage of that vertical potential energy) and fully rotating on the rear foot, rather than driving forward onto the toes.
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