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@@SlimMichaelSpaghetti over price man. I have the Obarter X7 scooter. It is a big scooter n I like it. 8,000w 60v 60ah battery, weight 140 pounds n I got 95 miles on a single charge. Because I was on a single motor.
Apollo needs to redesign the whole scooter. Almost 4 grand for drum brakes that's crazey. Does Apollo give you spare brake shoes for those drums. Rip off.
@@Syncere20 Drum brakes are much lower maintenance and far easier to adjust for lazy folks such as myself! 4 grand is way cheaper than most second hand cars and that comes with an app lock and motion alarm that can only be disabled by a phone connected to it plus a GPS tracker! Don't come blabbing in here about any overpriced BS before looking at its safety, anti-theft and low maintenance features!
@@火柴人-g5m Not overpriced at all! Much cheaper than a 2nd hand car and saves you in the long run in brake pad maintenance, back injury from carrying it and ultimately, safety from that smooth acceleration and 12-inch tires!
@@火柴人-g5m Don't listen to these judgmental, jumping-to-conclusion idiots. To me, it isn't overpriced because it has unparalleled app lock control, GPS and SIM tracking and anti-theft measures like motion detecting alarm and locked motors that can only be disabled by one's app with its own unique passcode. All a great deal that that price and is way cheaper than most 2nd-hand cars!
@@Syncere20the scooter is more based Off the day to day person and to keep low maintenance and its More focused on technology while also keeping some nice features from scooters focused on higher speeds
21:40 it took 9 seconds to reach 30 mph? you sure that is the max settings because that is as slow as the Ausom Gallop and about 3x slower then the Inmotion
"Cable brakes" are much lower maintenance, less headaches and more durable, especially paired with that one of a kind regen brake! "Real" scooters to you are fast, death and accident-causing machines with far less regard to safety and simplicity compared to the Apollo Pro! Yes, you will never ride it because Apollo is tailored for commuters who value reliability and sleekness over anything else. Plus, this "wild" price is far cheaper than buying a second-hand car!
@@fry8357 He tested the regen on max setting and it barely even has any stopping power? Did you watch this review? He literally said he was going to rear end a car because it was so weak...
I love things like this. Motorized scooters are today where motorcycles were 100 years ago. They start out small, but continue to get bigger and stronger. I another 20 years we are going to start seeing 18" wheels and monstrously powerful motors capable of highway speeds.
I mean I'm about to buy a seated electric scooter that's $1,580 including shipping and handling / tax and it tops out at 60mph with 60 mile range, hydraulic brakes, steering damper, turn signals, dual ultra bright LED headlights, dual suspension and fat 11 inch tires. It's not classified as a motorcycle but it might as well be haha. I have no need of going that fast as I'm staying on the streets, but I could ride on some highways if I wanted to, it's just better to have quick pickup when riding around. There are already motorcycle style electric scooter bikes you can get for 3 - 4k, but they don't have a great range, only like 40ish miles, and you can't transport them like you can a scooter. But in a few years when batteries are better these will be amazing
Some high performance scooter are alredy able to go highway speed lol Would I want to go highway speed on these thing ? Hell no, but still, we can with some model !
@@jebreeladonis1730 MetaMoov ZO01 Plus Electric Scooter, 6000Watts. I just got it last night, rode it today, this thing is literally an electric motorcycle, scary fast and the steering damper changes the ride entirely. Just with the single engine it goes up to 40mph on 3rd gear, when dual engine mode is engaged you burnout super easily and accelerate CRAZY fast, the speed is scary, but I've never felt more stable on a scooter from the damper alone. Build quality is great for the brakes, suspension, and lighting, the only area a little weak is the stem, you can flex it if you push forward, but when riding I've had no issues, I just wish it was a little less flexible there, I'm pretty sure I can change the bars if I really want to. Overall the thing is amazing, I'd recommend it for sure, but I've also only had it one day lmao
It is a decent scooter.Judging from some of the comments I would say the deck is too small,price is too high,no hydraulic brakes,drum brakes and it seems to have some problems with the stem.For the money they could do better.I just got the RR RS5 max and paid $2149 and I love it.Just put 100 miles on it and it is a well built and fun scooter for the price.For $3799 there are better choices although some have stated you can get it on sale from time to time for 3200 or so.
Good morning....VERY interested to see what your experience on this scooter will be. Ive bought 2 of these scooters. The first scooters stem hinge assembly broke on me 2 times since April. Make sure Apollo sends you the rubber strap that is supossed to go around the folding mechanism to ensure that it doesnt open up or break while going over BIG bumps.
I bought this scooter from Amazon foe 2,400 man. The best scooter I bought for myself and I got 70 miles on a single charge. Obarter X7 Monster Scooter / Electric Revolution th-cam.com/video/FBF3Zo6rV-o/w-d-xo.html
New subscriber here, love your reviews dude! That Apollo Pro seems pretty dang nice except for the pricetag. It'd be cool to see you try out a Nami Klima or Nami Burn-E 2. Hope your channel blows up!
The regen brake is meant to slow it down as much as it can but you still have to use the actual brakes on it. I had mine as well only had two incident with it just have to be care to wear some safety gear on .
I have one… lots of problems so far. The bolt that tightens the stem latch broke, which is a single point of failure, I nearly died when it happened because the stem fell down. They sent out new mechanisms to all early adopters. The throttle gets stuck at like 5%. They replaced the battery under warranty. It completely shuts off randomly when I play on the Bluetooth speaker. The mechanism that locks the stem in the down position got jammed a week into ownership. It overheats really easy in 75 degree weather after about 20mins. The rear “shock” is horrendous. Most of all I fucking hate the drum brakes, they are very hard to pull and provide zero feedback. All my socials are filled with their ads, makes me hate them. I do also have the City pro, and the go. The go is great so far minus the poor range, the city has had a bunch of problems too. As an electromechanical engineer, I give the design a D. I do like the 12" tires though, and it’s cool looking.
can you please review yume DK 11 electric scooter its one of the cheapest scooter that gose 50+ i dont know if i should get it and btw i love your content and like how you review scooters and check every mode your probably my favorite escooter TH-camr i dont know how your not more popular keep it up the juiceeee
I own this scooter and I wanted to add that when you squeeze the brake levers it combines the drum and regen together. I found this out by riding my scooter down a hill with it powered off and I hit the drum brakes and it was so much weaker of a stopping force than when powered on.
For the charging speed aspect, faster will cause more wear but that one is so low powered adding a second would still probably not even make them get much warmer. those Samsung batteries are rated for a minimum 0.5C normal charge rate, or in other words about two hours to full as C rating is charge current compared to capacity. Any pack that takes longer that two hours to fill is charging below 0.5C, in this case 6 hours would mean not even a 0.2C charge rate. The same Samsung batteries are rated for up to 4C quick charge, this is where you'll see more noticeable degradation especially without cell cooling, but in this case doubling the charge current would be pretty safe as far as cell longevity is concerned.
I dont really see what makes most 3-4k scooters that much better than most 1600-2k scooters. Maybe I just dont understand top of the line core components tho. idk
very good review my friend. a few cons that I noticed: the deck is too small compared to other flagship scooters. Apollo seems to focus on "cool tech" rather than a real world capable scooter. Drums brakes are an absolute no no at this price. The suspension is lacking especially in the rear as you stated. No steering damper. No hydraulic brakes. There are just too many inferior components on this scooter at this price. I challenge you as an expert reviewer to look at "budget Scooter brands" and see how they compare. Yume Y11 Pro is destroying this scooter and at nearly 1/3 the cost is has way more modern tech. Thanks again for an awesome review
I bought one of these around Christmas time for $3,299.00. I have no idea how I did this, but it was dropped, while in the lowest power setting. After picking it up and repeatedly pressing the power button to get it out of the low speed mode. It now reads that it is in Ludo mode, and has run to 55mph? I have no idea how this happened, and would like to know how to switch it back? 35mph, 40mph is fast enough? He just told me what happened. Thank you, bro.
Try sending it back. You should NEVER have to be worried about any scooter damage or breaking your scooter by dropping it at all, and for a scooter, that costs 3k. I dropped my Ninebot Max and Wolf Gt over 60 times and there's no internal damage whatsoever and I believe there won't ever be with more.
It seems Apollo is getting somewhere with the 13” tires and great range but yeah I’m not sure I’d want the drum brakes. But I’d have to test it out to see. It looks refined tho. If it comes down a bit in price it’s gonna be a great unit.
Only problem I had with the scooter was LED light controller that sits inside the deck. It gets too hot and causes condensation buildup. The scooter is IP66 so the condensation has nowhere to go and just gets worse.
I had mine for about two weeks and then the steering column seized up and got super tight. It would stick while trying to turn and then loosen up after a few seconds. (Super dangerous and had to stop riding it obviously) The repair process has been a nightmare with Apollo and was wondering if you ran into any issues with the steering. I have about 200 miles on it and it was about two weeks old. A 3rd party scooter repair shop said it's definitely a manufacture defect, but it's a shame that they're fighting a customer vs trying to work it out with them.
I’m paying 4000 only for wolf king gtr and Segway gt2, maybe once mini motors dualtron makes a comfort hyper scooter or Samsung weped with a scooter that built for overall use
The GPS feature is disabled and is no longer available per Apollo. I just purchased a brand new Apollo pro this last month. That feature is not available any longer.
A scooter at that price point should have a 72V and 50 Amps at the very least, also it should at the very least have 2*3kw nominal and 2*5kw burst power on its motors, especially with 12" wheels, which of course also is a must for a scooter this extremely expensive. It's a pity because I like the stand and it being a bit more waterproofed. If it had at least the above specs, I would be in the marked. This thing though, not a chance. PS: yeah I didn't even see that before reacting, the breaks I mean, are they for real? Sell it for 999,- and we can talk.
Don't forget this thing has drum brakes for $3,000+ I'm paying $3,000 I want hydraulic disc brakes to go along with the regen breaking that mostly all scooters have
This scooter is luxury performance all the way. I’d take it at the $3299 specials they offer over the poorly made scooters that cost $800 less. In the end you get what you pay for and with this scooter you get great build and performance quality.
One thing I always found strange when it comes to configuring scooter software, regardless of brands - choosing a top speed for each drive mode. Unless you're lending your scooter to a kid or otherwise inexperienced rider, why would anyone limit the top speed in any drive mode? Throttle response, eco mode, braking intensity, sure, but it seems arbitrary to lock yourself into a speed range, when basic physics will limit you just fine. These things go 80km/h (~50mph) tops. I've got an Apollo Phantom (V3) with 3800kms on it (~2400 miles), and though I'm good at doing routine maintenance (tightening bolts, lubing suspension/hubs/stem), and I've had to change tires on mine a few times - I still haven't had any issues with overheating, nor have I had any flat tires, and the stem has been solid. I'm 195lbs but I rarely hop it off a curb taller than 3 inches - and I'm wondering where all these people who crack stems are coming from. I always have the regen set to maximum - and aside from a couple of emergency stops where I've had to use my hydraulic brakes, I've used the regen exclusively. Having a dedicated regen lever is possibly the one thing that sets Apollo ahead of all other brands for me. Takes a while to get used to how regen braking resistance works, but I find it to be far superior to any braking other than immediate, emergency stops. It's smooth, predictable, a LOT stronger, works on both wheels, and you won't skid your rear wheel except on gravel or loose dirt. No matter how good your disc brakes are, they're gonna make some noise, they're gonna grind, and wear down pads. Regen is almost silent. I'm definitely considering the Pro as my next scooter - dedicated regen is tipping the scale over some super high performance scooters in its price range. Plus, you can fold it, pick it up and put it in your car. I'm pretty strong, my Phantom is about 100lbs with its stem bag & tools & chunky bike lock - but I won't be looking for a scooter that goes 130km/h & weighing 130lbs+.
How have you liked your Apollo scooter? They seem to get a weird amount of heat for build quality, but they also seem to care a lot about built quality.
@@Jamesbsc I don't have anything to compare it to, brand-wise. I had a '22 Ghost, which I put about 2k kms on, which I would never recommend. I've got 4300kms on it now - I put hydraulic brakes on it first thing, but rarely use them thanks to dedicated regen braking. A bolt for the handlebars has stripped, making them creak a lot, Some bolts are just too wimpy - but the stem has always been steady, without fail. I'm 195lbs & though I don't jump off curbs often, I've put the frame under a lot stress, with no issues, bends or cracks. Apollo went from making generic scooters that nobody should've been on - rickety crap - to the most innovative in the business, so you'll get a lot of people unhappy with older designs. Their service WAS bad at one time, but they've been great with me, customer since July '22. Parts were tough to find, and Apollo presented themselves as a client-friendly company, but find ANY brand who can claim "yes, it's in stock, we'll send it now" or "we're sorry that broke, we'll send a new one right away". I think a lot of people thought these scooters were like vehicles that required no maintenance. I've had to order parts a few times, had tech questions about what kind of tubes to get with tires, what bolt is this, do you have any, etc. They always answered me right away'ish and gave *pretty* good advice. But I've been scooting for over a year now & think I know where I can get parts & know how to fix anything mechanical. The thing about the Phantom is, you have to be vigilant in keeping all possible bolts tight & the tires at 50 psi. I rarely grab the scooter first thing in the morning & just go, I'm checking tire PSI, checking the lug nuts, and every few days, the bolts that hold the silver rims that connect the wheel hemispheres together. Then I'll lube the stem & shocks every week or so - but honestly, it's 10 mins per week, maybe. Changing a tire is hard & tedious, though. If I was gonna get ANY scooter, it'd have to have tubeless tires. The Pro is really pretty awesome. Portable still, yet 12" tires, IP66, dedicated regen braking, etc. I'd get one before a Nami Klima or Klima Max, but the Nami Burn-E2 Max has to take the crown for "best scooter you can fit into a car somehow".
In my opinion, the VMAX R55 Pro is it cheaper and better version I’ve been riding it for the past three months it glides the acceleration is good, but you can also change like the Apollo but it’s half the price
My Tifgalop scooter comes with hydraulic brakes,regenerative braking,12 inch tubeless tires, and the top speed is 60mph All for 1,400$ The build quality cold be a little better but it's not bad at all
I own an Apollo Pro and have firsthand experience with it. To be honest, the built quality isn't that great. I received a brand-new scooter, and there were manufacturing defects on the aircraft's aluminum parts, defects in the paint, and scratches all over the body. They gave me $200 off the price, but I am stuck with the scooter. This was my first and last experience with Apollo.
I had the Apollo Pro and sold it. I did not like the back suspension it was very stiff. The Regan break is not strong enough even on the highest setting. Didn’t like the drum breaks. I got a Nami Burn E 2 max and riding it is like riding a cloud.
Apollo Pro! Ease of storage, lower maintenance and so much safer! Saves you the back pain and maintenance headaches compared to the GT2! Otherwise, you may as well get a Surron if you want extra power!
@chaxologist2961 U r talking nonsense. No comparison gt2 is 1000 times a better build and way smoother. This a commuter scooter. PRO IS A JOKE AND OVWR PRICED SO THE FOOL IS YOU 😆
100% Not and it never did in my opinion. The gt2 is the all around scooter, mine is over a year old it has 4k kilometres without any problems I didn’t even change break pads.
get the gt2 apollo is not a good company.. just search for horror stories about them on the electricscooters subreddit, most of the community don't like them
@@ricardorodriguesrr18I was cleaning the scooter with pressure washer so water got inside, I removed it by sacking the scooter, never had any issues but do be sure store it somewhere dry and clean it with foam spray and towels.
Do yourself a favour, ride on wet roads, not too wet, but enough that it will flick up under the deck from the tyres. Then check underneath to where battery, controllers, wires will be. And confirm it’s dry as and it hasn’t entered through the supposed IP66 water resistance rating.
I'd be willing to bet that MOST, not all, of the people bashing this scoot scoot are android phone users. It'd be interesting to see that poll. Some people don't buy premium products to go the fastest or have the most cutting edge features. Some people value form equally to function. This scooter is pricy, beautiful, and well laid out. I'll be ordering mine soon!! Whoever suggested the Yume Y11 Pro likely has a clunky Samsung s10 or something like that as that scooter is hideous (and check your homeowners policy with those yume batteries!!)
That’s RS money, and I get that this and an RS are two different scooters but I just don’t see where this makes up for everything the RS does better. It’s a nice looking scooter but I’m not sure the looks can single handedly distract you from the price.
this is similar in price to the aniiokie A8 Pro Max 52V Dual Motor Ebike out of the box with no sale price so both do same speeds an the latter has 200mile rang. with swap-able batteries. but this ev razor is nice in its own right. the cheapest sketcy high speed ev reazor like it in speed was like 850 i found with china cells only con to pro was it had 4.5 stars.
I have a Varla Eagle One v2 and the hydraulic disc brakes are by far the worst part of the scooter. ignoring the broken leds that they ship every scooter with and are unable to replace or repair with working leds. they sent me 4 sets of leds broken in the exact same way. even their youtube advertisement where they try and sell you on buying the scooter, shows the leds being broken.
It is an infringement of the Apollo Pro! The CTO of Apollo confirmed that and the Punk Rider does not have any service locations or replacement parts as compared to the Apollo Pro so buy that cheap, Chinese copycat at your own risk!
Rubber gasket suspension in the rear? For that amount of money? I'd rather have the Segway GT2 for $2,499 is made better and has way better quality control over Apollo. The price they want for this is ridiculous to not have rear shocks just like in the front. That deck is so small that that's got to be for children or women because I got size 11s and there's no way my feet are going to fit on that Even if I put my right foot sideways and then put my left foot straight
I have the GT2. and a friend of mine has the Apollo, and I have took it for a good ride. My Segway is by far a superior scooter in performance, quality, looks. the Apollo in my opinion looks Goofy. no hydraulic brakes . non adjustable rear suspension. with rubber bushings. not a whole lot of value for $3800. do yourself a favor save yourself $800 , and get the GT2 you won't regret it
@@danpettis1675 i dont understand how they made the apollo pro with rubber bushings. Im glad the lower the price of the gt2. Imagine the gt3 and gt4. Honestly i cant wait
@tazerz9 my guess they spent all the budget on things like a 1 peice aircraft aluminum frame, fancy lighting. Bluetooth speaker and quad locks. then when it came to things that really matter like a actual adjustable rear suspension and hydraulic brakes. they figured people wouldn't notice, they'd be too distracted by all the fluff. car makers ,and building architects do this all the time. the next iteration of the GT series will definitely be a sight to behold for sure. what some don't realize is that Segway pioneered micro mobility, and know what their customers want. True masters in the craft.
Apollo needs to step it up. The fact there are no hydraulic brakes, only one hydraulic shock in the front and only a max speed of 45mph, is just not enough for the asking price imo. The build quality and lighting / app features are nice but not enough to persuade buyers away from competitors that have lower price like Inmotion RS Lite, Kaabo or even the Roadrunner RS5 MAX.
It’s on sale frequently for $3200. That’s what I paid for mine. If I had the space I’d have gotten a cargo e bike, but alas I don’t have the luxury of a garage
@mikehud1984 - would highly recommend trying the scooter before judging here :-). It’s not a performance scooter - it’s a comfort scooter, with sufficient speed and safe braking when you try it!
Especially with drum brakes. For the same amount of money you can get any scooter with hydraulic disc brakes and they have regen breaking just like this
I think it's a bit overpriced for low specs it has im geussing similar performance like my nami klima tho it's light weight not back braking to lift which is good. Other stuff on it that other scooters don't have like GPS and like turning light indicator on the tips of the handle bars.
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@@andreperry7995 No one wants ur oshitter
It's not about the price for some of us. Perfect scooter would be faster, lighter, wider, emphasis on lightweight
@@SlimMichaelSpaghetti over price man. I have the Obarter X7 scooter. It is a big scooter n I like it. 8,000w 60v 60ah battery, weight 140 pounds n I got 95 miles on a single charge. Because I was on a single motor.
@@andreperry7995 My Scooter weighs 74 pounds. I can lift it up and cross steep railroad tracks as a shortcut no problem.
Apollo needs to lengthen the deck a bit. At least by 2 to 3 inches. Your size 14's are taking up ALL the space on the deck.
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Amen, I'm a 13 and the new Roadrunner deck is amazing but I struggle to out my feet in the deck of the Apollo Pro
Apollo needs to redesign the whole scooter. Almost 4 grand for drum brakes that's crazey. Does Apollo give you spare brake shoes for those drums. Rip off.
this scooter is a compete rip off.. run from this overpriced drum brake having money pit lol
@@Syncere20 Drum brakes are much lower maintenance and far easier to adjust for lazy folks such as myself!
4 grand is way cheaper than most second hand cars and that comes with an app lock and motion alarm that can only be disabled by a phone connected to it plus a GPS tracker!
Don't come blabbing in here about any overpriced BS before looking at its safety, anti-theft and low maintenance features!
Have been waiting for this review forever!!!
Dont buy this scooter
@@Syncere20 I mean it sure is a little overpriced, but it's a great scooter
@@火柴人-g5m Not overpriced at all! Much cheaper than a 2nd hand car and saves you in the long run in brake pad maintenance, back injury from carrying it and ultimately, safety from that smooth acceleration and 12-inch tires!
@@火柴人-g5m Don't listen to these judgmental, jumping-to-conclusion idiots.
To me, it isn't overpriced because it has unparalleled app lock control, GPS and SIM tracking and anti-theft measures like motion detecting alarm and locked motors that can only be disabled by one's app with its own unique passcode.
All a great deal that that price and is way cheaper than most 2nd-hand cars!
@@Syncere20the scooter is more based Off the day to day person and to keep low maintenance and its More focused on technology while also keeping some nice features from scooters focused on higher speeds
Apollo is wild. $3800 machine with cable brakes. I could never ride this thing and be happy after riding real scooters.
21:40 it took 9 seconds to reach 30 mph? you sure that is the max settings because that is as slow as the Ausom Gallop and about 3x slower then the Inmotion
Might be cause they really believe in their regen.. or to maximize profits
"Cable brakes" are much lower maintenance, less headaches and more durable, especially paired with that one of a kind regen brake!
"Real" scooters to you are fast, death and accident-causing machines with far less regard to safety and simplicity compared to the Apollo Pro!
Yes, you will never ride it because Apollo is tailored for commuters who value reliability and sleekness over anything else.
Plus, this "wild" price is far cheaper than buying a second-hand car!
@@fry8357 He tested the regen on max setting and it barely even has any stopping power? Did you watch this review? He literally said he was going to rear end a car because it was so weak...
@@ScootaGangyeah a $3800 scooter should have some good brakes not some cheap cable brakes
I love things like this. Motorized scooters are today where motorcycles were 100 years ago. They start out small, but continue to get bigger and stronger. I another 20 years we are going to start seeing 18" wheels and monstrously powerful motors capable of highway speeds.
I mean I'm about to buy a seated electric scooter that's $1,580 including shipping and handling / tax and it tops out at 60mph with 60 mile range, hydraulic brakes, steering damper, turn signals, dual ultra bright LED headlights, dual suspension and fat 11 inch tires.
It's not classified as a motorcycle but it might as well be haha.
I have no need of going that fast as I'm staying on the streets, but I could ride on some highways if I wanted to, it's just better to have quick pickup when riding around.
There are already motorcycle style electric scooter bikes you can get for 3 - 4k, but they don't have a great range, only like 40ish miles, and you can't transport them like you can a scooter. But in a few years when batteries are better these will be amazing
Some high performance scooter are alredy able to go highway speed lol
Would I want to go highway speed on these thing ? Hell no, but still, we can with some model !
@@collinkeaton1537what scooter is this?
@@jebreeladonis1730 MetaMoov ZO01 Plus Electric Scooter, 6000Watts.
I just got it last night, rode it today, this thing is literally an electric motorcycle, scary fast and the steering damper changes the ride entirely.
Just with the single engine it goes up to 40mph on 3rd gear, when dual engine mode is engaged you burnout super easily and accelerate CRAZY fast, the speed is scary, but I've never felt more stable on a scooter from the damper alone.
Build quality is great for the brakes, suspension, and lighting, the only area a little weak is the stem, you can flex it if you push forward, but when riding I've had no issues, I just wish it was a little less flexible there, I'm pretty sure I can change the bars if I really want to.
Overall the thing is amazing, I'd recommend it for sure, but I've also only had it one day lmao
Coming with a quadlock is good, best phone holder on the market
It is a decent scooter.Judging from some of the comments I would say the deck is too small,price is too high,no hydraulic brakes,drum brakes and it seems to have some problems with the stem.For the money they could do better.I just got the RR RS5 max and paid $2149 and I love it.Just put 100 miles on it and it is a well built and fun scooter for the price.For $3799 there are better choices although some have stated you can get it on sale from time to time for 3200 or so.
From your experience,please what do you think of nami blast ? Thanks
the drum breaks are there for the lower maintenance
@@xlixcid But there garbage
Good morning....VERY interested to see what your experience on this scooter will be. Ive bought 2 of these scooters. The first scooters stem hinge assembly broke on me 2 times since April. Make sure Apollo sends you the rubber strap that is supossed to go around the folding mechanism to ensure that it doesnt open up or break while going over BIG bumps.
I bought this scooter from Amazon foe 2,400 man. The best scooter I bought for myself and I got 70 miles on a single charge.
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That's not good its expensive and you have to worry about fixing it.
@@Syncere20 your right.
my man is back, i was waiting for yaaahh!! :D
New subscriber here, love your reviews dude! That Apollo Pro seems pretty dang nice except for the pricetag. It'd be cool to see you try out a Nami Klima or Nami Burn-E 2. Hope your channel blows up!
Dude has almost 30k subs! lol that’s pretty blown up to me.. he gets free e-rides daily 😂
@@AJCoReTV That's true, he's doing great. But he deserves 300k! 😸
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The regen brake is meant to slow it down as much as it can but you still have to use the actual brakes on it. I had mine as well only had two incident with it just have to be care to wear some safety gear on .
I have one… lots of problems so far. The bolt that tightens the stem latch broke, which is a single point of failure, I nearly died when it happened because the stem fell down. They sent out new mechanisms to all early adopters. The throttle gets stuck at like 5%. They replaced the battery under warranty. It completely shuts off randomly when I play on the Bluetooth speaker. The mechanism that locks the stem in the down position got jammed a week into ownership. It overheats really easy in 75 degree weather after about 20mins. The rear “shock” is horrendous. Most of all I fucking hate the drum brakes, they are very hard to pull and provide zero feedback. All my socials are filled with their ads, makes me hate them. I do also have the City pro, and the go. The go is great so far minus the poor range, the city has had a bunch of problems too. As an electromechanical engineer, I give the design a D. I do like the 12" tires though, and it’s cool looking.
can you please review yume DK 11 electric scooter its one of the cheapest scooter that gose 50+ i dont know if i should get it and btw i love your content and like how you review scooters and check every mode your probably my favorite escooter TH-camr i dont know how your not more popular keep it up the juiceeee
I own this scooter and I wanted to add that when you squeeze the brake levers it combines the drum and regen together. I found this out by riding my scooter down a hill with it powered off and I hit the drum brakes and it was so much weaker of a stopping force than when powered on.
For the charging speed aspect, faster will cause more wear but that one is so low powered adding a second would still probably not even make them get much warmer.
those Samsung batteries are rated for a minimum 0.5C normal charge rate, or in other words about two hours to full as C rating is charge current compared to capacity. Any pack that takes longer that two hours to fill is charging below 0.5C, in this case 6 hours would mean not even a 0.2C charge rate. The same Samsung batteries are rated for up to 4C quick charge, this is where you'll see more noticeable degradation especially without cell cooling, but in this case doubling the charge current would be pretty safe as far as cell longevity is concerned.
I dont really see what makes most 3-4k scooters that much better than most 1600-2k scooters. Maybe I just dont understand top of the line core components tho. idk
very good review my friend. a few cons that I noticed: the deck is too small compared to other flagship scooters. Apollo seems to focus on "cool tech" rather than a real world capable scooter. Drums brakes are an absolute no no at this price. The suspension is lacking especially in the rear as you stated. No steering damper. No hydraulic brakes. There are just too many inferior components on this scooter at this price. I challenge you as an expert reviewer to look at "budget Scooter brands" and see how they compare. Yume Y11 Pro is destroying this scooter and at nearly 1/3 the cost is has way more modern tech. Thanks again for an awesome review
I bought one of these around Christmas time for $3,299.00. I have no idea how I did this, but it was dropped, while in the lowest power setting. After picking it up and repeatedly pressing the power button to get it out of the low speed mode. It now reads that it is in Ludo mode, and has run to 55mph? I have no idea how this happened, and would like to know how to switch it back? 35mph, 40mph is fast enough? He just told me what happened. Thank you, bro.
Sorry, dude, sounds like you’re stuck going 55 mph only, should not have dropped it
Try sending it back.
You should NEVER have to be worried about any scooter damage or breaking your scooter by dropping it at all, and for a scooter, that costs 3k.
I dropped my Ninebot Max and Wolf Gt over 60 times and there's no internal damage whatsoever and I believe there won't ever be with more.
Not even talking about the guy who delivered the scooter he has to be strong 💪
Awesome channel for everything electric and mobile ❤
Looks cool. The only thing I don't like is the deck seems to short. Great video like always
It seems Apollo is getting somewhere with the 13” tires and great range but yeah I’m not sure I’d want the drum brakes. But I’d have to test it out to see. It looks refined tho. If it comes down a bit in price it’s gonna be a great unit.
I think this maybe good on road but the best all rounder and better off road is still the wolf king gtr
This scooter is better
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Do a review on the Nami Burn E 2 max, you will see the difference between this junk and a real Hyper scooter!!!
Apollo Phantom V4X is similar performance with 18650 battery and less than $2000 USD
Only problem I had with the scooter was LED light controller that sits inside the deck. It gets too hot and causes condensation buildup. The scooter is IP66 so the condensation has nowhere to go and just gets worse.
All videos are GREAT! Thank YOU!!
Gun to my head pick, I would probably get the Graffiti X.
That bike and pedestrian lane is so cool
Was just wondering why we hadn't seen a new Juiced video!
$4k for a 40mph scooter🤪 terrible
Fr but it’s 50 mph but it’s still terrible cuz of the price
Yes my ReddyRD1 can do 62mph for half the price
It’s not Always about the speed but the safety it has a self healing tire and it’s “hyper luxury“ in a way
30:32...Why did Elijah Wood try to run you off the sidewalk? Dudes arms were the size diameter as his handlebars.
2 Chargers going doesn't decrease your battery hardly at all. MAYBE a few mins over a few years. You forgot to add that part lol
Do you think it would benefit from a steering damper?
Stem is pushed backwards too much and pushing riders over the rear wheel. Should have left phantom angle, really comfy.
If you want a 45 mph dual 1200w motor commuter scooter you can find one in the 1k range (on sale for 6-800)
I have 2 Apollo Pros's....their not going to wow you with speed and torq..they are SUPER stable and smooth scooters. AWesome for commuting.
If you dont like them so much give me one of them 😁
@@GearWave whats the battery voltage on your Apollo Pro. It says it on the charger right ? I know its not a 72 volt maybe a 60 volt Idk? Thank you.
@@Syncere20 60 I believe
I had mine for about two weeks and then the steering column seized up and got super tight. It would stick while trying to turn and then loosen up after a few seconds. (Super dangerous and had to stop riding it obviously) The repair process has been a nightmare with Apollo and was wondering if you ran into any issues with the steering. I have about 200 miles on it and it was about two weeks old. A 3rd party scooter repair shop said it's definitely a manufacture defect, but it's a shame that they're fighting a customer vs trying to work it out with them.
@@hanersky7 mine is doing that now.
I’m paying 4000 only for wolf king gtr and Segway gt2, maybe once mini motors dualtron makes a comfort hyper scooter or Samsung weped with a scooter that built for overall use
The GPS feature is disabled and is no longer available per Apollo. I just purchased a brand new Apollo pro this last month. That feature is not available any longer.
A scooter at that price point should have a 72V and 50 Amps at the very least, also it should at the very least have 2*3kw nominal and 2*5kw burst power on its motors, especially with 12" wheels, which of course also is a must for a scooter this extremely expensive. It's a pity because I like the stand and it being a bit more waterproofed. If it had at least the above specs, I would be in the marked. This thing though, not a chance. PS: yeah I didn't even see that before reacting, the breaks I mean, are they for real? Sell it for 999,- and we can talk.
Don't forget this thing has drum brakes for $3,000+ I'm paying $3,000 I want hydraulic disc brakes to go along with the regen breaking that mostly all scooters have
I’m wondering why I didn’t get a stem latch upgrade kit. I got my scooter only one month ago
This scooter is luxury performance all the way. I’d take it at the $3299 specials they offer over the poorly made scooters that cost $800 less. In the end you get what you pay for and with this scooter you get great build and performance quality.
lil bro you know you can get a better scooter than apollo pro for $700? And it's better in every metric
Hi Matt, love your chilled review style. Where abouts are you? The beach rides there look beautiful.
Looks like Santa Monica or Malibu. I’ve seen the pier before.
@@Jamesbsc cheers, on my list of places to visit. Looks like a vibe.
One thing I always found strange when it comes to configuring scooter software, regardless of brands - choosing a top speed for each drive mode. Unless you're lending your scooter to a kid or otherwise inexperienced rider, why would anyone limit the top speed in any drive mode? Throttle response, eco mode, braking intensity, sure, but it seems arbitrary to lock yourself into a speed range, when basic physics will limit you just fine. These things go 80km/h (~50mph) tops.
I've got an Apollo Phantom (V3) with 3800kms on it (~2400 miles), and though I'm good at doing routine maintenance (tightening bolts, lubing suspension/hubs/stem), and I've had to change tires on mine a few times - I still haven't had any issues with overheating, nor have I had any flat tires, and the stem has been solid. I'm 195lbs but I rarely hop it off a curb taller than 3 inches - and I'm wondering where all these people who crack stems are coming from.
I always have the regen set to maximum - and aside from a couple of emergency stops where I've had to use my hydraulic brakes, I've used the regen exclusively. Having a dedicated regen lever is possibly the one thing that sets Apollo ahead of all other brands for me. Takes a while to get used to how regen braking resistance works, but I find it to be far superior to any braking other than immediate, emergency stops. It's smooth, predictable, a LOT stronger, works on both wheels, and you won't skid your rear wheel except on gravel or loose dirt. No matter how good your disc brakes are, they're gonna make some noise, they're gonna grind, and wear down pads. Regen is almost silent.
I'm definitely considering the Pro as my next scooter - dedicated regen is tipping the scale over some super high performance scooters in its price range. Plus, you can fold it, pick it up and put it in your car. I'm pretty strong, my Phantom is about 100lbs with its stem bag & tools & chunky bike lock - but I won't be looking for a scooter that goes 130km/h & weighing 130lbs+.
How have you liked your Apollo scooter? They seem to get a weird amount of heat for build quality, but they also seem to care a lot about built quality.
@@Jamesbsc I don't have anything to compare it to, brand-wise. I had a '22 Ghost, which I put about 2k kms on, which I would never recommend. I've got 4300kms on it now - I put hydraulic brakes on it first thing, but rarely use them thanks to dedicated regen braking.
A bolt for the handlebars has stripped, making them creak a lot, Some bolts are just too wimpy - but the stem has always been steady, without fail. I'm 195lbs & though I don't jump off curbs often, I've put the frame under a lot stress, with no issues, bends or cracks. Apollo went from making generic scooters that nobody should've been on - rickety crap - to the most innovative in the business, so you'll get a lot of people unhappy with older designs. Their service WAS bad at one time, but they've been great with me, customer since July '22. Parts were tough to find, and Apollo presented themselves as a client-friendly company, but find ANY brand who can claim "yes, it's in stock, we'll send it now" or "we're sorry that broke, we'll send a new one right away". I think a lot of people thought these scooters were like vehicles that required no maintenance. I've had to order parts a few times, had tech questions about what kind of tubes to get with tires, what bolt is this, do you have any, etc. They always answered me right away'ish and gave *pretty* good advice. But I've been scooting for over a year now & think I know where I can get parts & know how to fix anything mechanical.
The thing about the Phantom is, you have to be vigilant in keeping all possible bolts tight & the tires at 50 psi. I rarely grab the scooter first thing in the morning & just go, I'm checking tire PSI, checking the lug nuts, and every few days, the bolts that hold the silver rims that connect the wheel hemispheres together. Then I'll lube the stem & shocks every week or so - but honestly, it's 10 mins per week, maybe. Changing a tire is hard & tedious, though. If I was gonna get ANY scooter, it'd have to have tubeless tires.
The Pro is really pretty awesome. Portable still, yet 12" tires, IP66, dedicated regen braking, etc. I'd get one before a Nami Klima or Klima Max, but the Nami Burn-E2 Max has to take the crown for "best scooter you can fit into a car somehow".
Solid. Thanks Matt!
In my opinion, the VMAX R55 Pro is it cheaper and better version I’ve been riding it for the past three months it glides the acceleration is good, but you can also change like the Apollo but it’s half the price
My Tifgalop scooter comes with hydraulic brakes,regenerative braking,12 inch tubeless tires, and the top speed is 60mph
All for 1,400$
The build quality cold be a little better but it's not bad at all
Please review the teewing mars xtr 10000w next
You should try testing the evercross pro scooter
I own an Apollo Pro and have firsthand experience with it. To be honest, the built quality isn't that great. I received a brand-new scooter, and there were manufacturing defects on the aircraft's aluminum parts, defects in the paint, and scratches all over the body. They gave me $200 off the price, but I am stuck with the scooter. This was my first and last experience with Apollo.
I'll have it
I had the Apollo Pro and sold it. I did not like the back suspension it was very stiff. The Regan break is not strong enough even on the highest setting. Didn’t like the drum breaks.
I got a Nami Burn E 2 max and riding it is like riding a cloud.
I’m trying to decide if I should get the Segway gt2 or the Apollo pro
Buy the gt2. GT2 is a real power scooter , trust me Apollo is shit.
@@ENOCH0000 agreed this is way overpriced
Gt2 all the way.
It’s also a lot cheaper
Apollo Pro!
Ease of storage, lower maintenance and so much safer!
Saves you the back pain and maintenance headaches compared to the GT2!
Otherwise, you may as well get a Surron if you want extra power!
@chaxologist2961
U r talking nonsense. No comparison gt2 is 1000 times a better build and way smoother. This a commuter scooter. PRO IS A JOKE AND OVWR PRICED SO THE FOOL IS YOU 😆
i wanted to get one of these but my city 23 the screws on the handle bars come loose after a few miles and over heats just as fast
Is this worth the extra grand plus over the Segway GT2 now? ($2500)
100%
100% Not and it never did in my opinion.
The gt2 is the all around scooter, mine is over a year old it has 4k kilometres without any problems I didn’t even change break pads.
get the gt2
apollo is not a good company.. just search for horror stories about them on the electricscooters subreddit, most of the community don't like them
@@ts1560 but gt2 waterproof is not good right?
@@ricardorodriguesrr18I was cleaning the scooter with pressure washer so water got inside, I removed it by sacking the scooter, never had any issues but do be sure store it somewhere dry and clean it with foam spray and towels.
Can you review the roll road Emma 3.0
Do yourself a favour, ride on wet roads, not too wet, but enough that it will flick up under the deck from the tyres. Then check underneath to where battery, controllers, wires will be. And confirm it’s dry as and it hasn’t entered through the supposed IP66 water resistance rating.
5:53 bro is magical
I'd be willing to bet that MOST, not all, of the people bashing this scoot scoot are android phone users. It'd be interesting to see that poll. Some people don't buy premium products to go the fastest or have the most cutting edge features. Some people value form equally to function. This scooter is pricy, beautiful, and well laid out. I'll be ordering mine soon!! Whoever suggested the Yume Y11 Pro likely has a clunky Samsung s10 or something like that as that scooter is hideous (and check your homeowners policy with those yume batteries!!)
What does phones have to do with anything 😭🙏
Cable brakes and a rubber flapper in the rear. So premium
Hard to change wheels?
as somebody that owns an apollo scooter this scooter for the price needs a 72v battery instead of a 52v 35ah or 30ah
Where do you buy this schooter??
dont tell you want to buy
it
Why would i get this when i can get a makuta 10+ ? i dont get it..yeah it looks more pristine but what else?
That’s RS money, and I get that this and an RS are two different scooters but I just don’t see where this makes up for everything the RS does better. It’s a nice looking scooter but I’m not sure the looks can single handedly distract you from the price.
Round here that ranger is still in excellent condition
this is similar in price to the aniiokie A8 Pro Max 52V Dual Motor Ebike out of the box with no sale price so both do same speeds an the latter has 200mile rang. with swap-able batteries. but this ev razor is nice in its own right. the cheapest sketcy high speed ev reazor like it in speed was like 850 i found with china cells only con to pro was it had 4.5 stars.
I have a Varla Eagle One v2 and the hydraulic disc brakes are by far the worst part of the scooter. ignoring the broken leds that they ship every scooter with and are unable to replace or repair with working leds. they sent me 4 sets of leds broken in the exact same way. even their youtube advertisement where they try and sell you on buying the scooter, shows the leds being broken.
Length of the deck, please? Thank you!
Too small
Segway GT2 is where its at 1000$ less
The funny thing about this scooter is you may as well keep it in LUDO Mode.
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FINALLY:)
please do a review of the hx x9
Btw, having those blue/red lights is illegal bc it resembles a police officer and you could get fined for it
On roads, yes.
$$3800 no adjustable rear suspension and standard drum brakes . the segway GT2 is a wayyy better scooter. and 800 bucks cheaper
Only a charge time under 1 hour degrades lithium batteries any measurable amount
Paying $3800 to get 52V 30ah battery and drum brakes…
Ofc its good quality 🇨🇦🇨🇦
is this the 23 or 24 model?
The Punk Rider Pro looks very similar to this scooter. I think they tried to copy them.
I'd love to see him review the Punk Rider Pro now that he reviewed the Apollo Pro.
All of these scooters look the same. It’s more so a trend than it is copying 😂
@jlewis631 The Pro came out in March 2023. The Punk Rider in February 2024. Imitation is the best type of flattery..
It is an infringement of the Apollo Pro! The CTO of Apollo confirmed that and the Punk Rider does not have any service locations or replacement parts as compared to the Apollo Pro so buy that cheap, Chinese copycat at your own risk!
@@chaxologist2024 Do you have a link to this? I'd be interested to read what they said.
3800???
FOR WHAT 😢
Apollo pro or gt2?😜✌️😊
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Rubber gasket suspension in the rear? For that amount of money? I'd rather have the Segway GT2 for $2,499 is made better and has way better quality control over Apollo. The price they want for this is ridiculous to not have rear shocks just like in the front. That deck is so small that that's got to be for children or women because I got size 11s and there's no way my feet are going to fit on that Even if I put my right foot sideways and then put my left foot straight
Finally a taller person with bigger feet reviewing this scooter 😂
Do they just make up these prices?
Use the region brake
🤣
To not have hydraulic disc brakes for that much money it's just crazy and to put drum brakes on it is even worse for $3,000+
Yo! Let me buy that off you.
This or a segway gt2? Can you tell me since you tried both
I have the GT2. and a friend of mine has the Apollo, and I have took it for a good ride. My Segway is by far a superior scooter in performance, quality, looks. the Apollo in my opinion looks Goofy. no hydraulic brakes . non adjustable rear suspension. with rubber bushings. not a whole lot of value for $3800. do yourself a favor save yourself $800 , and get the GT2 you won't regret it
@@danpettis1675 i dont understand how they made the apollo pro with rubber bushings. Im glad the lower the price of the gt2. Imagine the gt3 and gt4. Honestly i cant wait
@tazerz9 my guess they spent all the budget on things like a 1 peice aircraft aluminum frame, fancy lighting. Bluetooth speaker and quad locks. then when it came to things that really matter like a actual adjustable rear suspension and hydraulic brakes. they figured people wouldn't notice, they'd be too distracted by all the fluff. car makers ,and building architects do this all the time. the next iteration of the GT series will definitely be a sight to behold for sure. what some don't realize is that Segway pioneered micro mobility, and know what their customers want. True masters in the craft.
Wow that Ferrari is cool
For 3800, they should've made it 60 volts. Or even the new maxfun 10 max seems more worth it than this.
80kmph is crazy
Mode S max speed ?
I like watching things I can't afford
Apollo needs to step it up. The fact there are no hydraulic brakes, only one hydraulic shock in the front and only a max speed of 45mph, is just not enough for the asking price imo. The build quality and lighting / app features are nice but not enough to persuade buyers away from competitors that have lower price like Inmotion RS Lite, Kaabo or even the Roadrunner RS5 MAX.
This is not supposed to be a performance scooter, it’s just a really nice commuter, they just need to lower the price
It’s on sale frequently for $3200. That’s what I paid for mine. If I had the space I’d have gotten a cargo e bike, but alas I don’t have the luxury of a garage
Not to mention with the tariff hikes next month, and this scoot is going to be easily 5k....Which is hilarious to me
@mikehud1984 - would highly recommend trying the scooter before judging here :-). It’s not a performance scooter - it’s a comfort scooter, with sufficient speed and safe braking when you try it!
This scooter is not worth 3800 .....no display bruh this is like 1400 dollars scooter
There is a display
Especially with drum brakes. For the same amount of money you can get any scooter with hydraulic disc brakes and they have regen breaking just like this
Bro some scooters giveaway pls
I think it's a bit overpriced for low specs it has im geussing similar performance like my nami klima tho it's light weight not back braking to lift which is good. Other stuff on it that other scooters don't have like GPS and like turning light indicator on the tips of the handle bars.
This scooter is better if u like big scooters
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all these beautiful lights are not allowed in austria :( drivers and others could be distracted 🙄
For this price I would just buy a used honda ruckus. Unless you live in a small apartment with no parking
Hold the throttle and regenerative brake for unlimited range 😂
why the hell were there so many escoots in that creek are we gonna talk about that