Inaction at COP28 will cost at least 5 million lives
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- COP28 seems doomed to avoid the rapid phasing out of fossil fuels. How many lives will be lost because of this?
In this video I talk with Prof Cathryn Tonne, one of the authors of a study published this week that analysed the excess mortality caused by burning fossil fuels. This allows for a simple, stark calculation of how many lives are lost each year due to our continued use of fossil fuels. And to tell you the truth, I think this is the video where I've finally had enough.
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Of course, COP28 cannot simply flip a switch and stop all burning of fossil fuels overnight. But the loss of lives in a single year provides a lower bound for the time-integrated loss of life as a result of one more year of delays. Of course the calculation is more complex than this, but this is a first approximation. And if it doesn't make you angry at the way COP28 is going, I'm not sure what to tell you.
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In Austria, we had a policy that limited speed on highways to 100km/h in order to improve air quality. The policy was (mostly) reversed this year. Why? BECAUSE IT WORKED! Air quality went up so much, the argument was that the policy wasn't necessary anymore.
It is absolutely mind-boggling, how that "reasoning" got any kind of traction, let alone become the primary narrative in our media (if it was reported on at all).
Hahaha that sucks so bad
That's terrible. Wow. Probably Germany cranking up their coal plants doesn't help either.
@@DennisR219 Germany is burning coal because of a lack of natural gas which is way cleaner. I guess deaths from the cold don't count to a climate alarmist.
Billionaire dude-bros probably lobbied the govt that they couldn’t possibly drive their Ferraris so slowly.
@@DennisR219 Don't mistake Coal Power Plants being kept in reserve with them actually running. It's not the same. There are multiple units kept in reserve this year again to mitigate any harsh winter that would otherwise drain gas reserves too much. If that winter doesn't come, the plants don't actually run.
It is honestly sickening to see how action on climate change has seemingly become not just lethargic, but actively backwards, despite every sign pointing at the urgency of the issue.
Short-termism in politics is toxic in mild crises. It will be massively deadly for the climate crisis.
How is this 18 hours old already
@@patrick-kees8962 propably due to patreon subscribers getting early access to the video before it is set to public
@@patrick-kees8962 Wormholes.
brother, this occurence happens at every step of the lives we live, i just dont understand... are we just that stupid ?
When I was an elementary student in the US in the early 70's, there was a huge push to put an end to air pollution. There were reports of the level of pollutants as part of the nightly weather report. This was stopped by lobbying from the coal and electric power industry after only a few years.
Pollution was actually greatly reduced, from 1985 with the advant of catalytic converters
What the hell is the reasoning not to inform them
Catalytic converters actually reversed climate change for a while, if you look at the data.
If people are not being informed there is a health hazard they are less likely to complain and with fewer complaints there is less pressure on those capable of action to do something to mitigate the harm being done.@@albertoandrade9807
@@albertoandrade9807news is privately owned
As soon as it was decided that COP28 would be held in Dubai, a city literally built on the profits of fossil fuels, it was inevitable that it would lead to another year of inaction, and possibly even rolling back of measures to move away from fossil fuels. No wonder our (British) PM "inaction man", as Simon wonderfully called him, Rishi Sunak decided he'd bother to go this year. Although he still spent longer on his kerosene-fuelled private jet than he actually did at COP.
Had he walked, he would have spend even more time not being there. Keep the arguments on something logical
@martijnkoning3354 Of course no one would walk from the UK to Dubai! It's the short time Sunak was actually at COP that's the issue.
I feel that, whilst important, care should be taken to keep air pollution distinct from climate change.
For instance, some solutions to climate change (for example, bio-fuels (especially bio-diesel) still produce pm 2.5, often more than their ff counter parts. Equally there are solutions to air pollution I.e. 'clean coal' that do less than nothing for greenhouse gas emissions)
They're both air pollution, just of different kinds. In either case pollutants are being emitted.
Biofuels are like fossil fuel lite, they still burn with the pollutants of fossil fuels so why distinguish between them?
@@wiegraf9009 I remember recently the use of heavy fuel oils was banned in the North Sea region, and as a result, the region experienced higher than average warming. It's caused by reduced aerosols in the air, which some filthy fuels emit. But the aerosols, while being bad for health, counteract climate warming to a degree. Or to a large degree, when vulcanos spew large amounts of it into the atmosphere.
So in that sense at least, the distinction would be good to be made. What do we want, reduce climate warming, or reduce emissions of all sorts. We might not have the luxury of having it all at some point.
@@chelseashurmantine8153 Another reason. Solutions like BECCS and biochar is carbon negative. The carbon in the source biomass is turned into an inactive form and then stored. They will produce air pollution. But will also help us reduce the amount of carbon in the air.
@@chelseashurmantine8153bio fuels are more carbon neutral because the organisms used to make it recently grew(absorbing atmospheric carbon in the process) as opposed to fossil fuels who’s carbon has been out of the carbon cycle for 10s-100s of millions of years. That’s the big difference in emissions from a climate change perspective but not an air quality perspective. Regions that have great air quality might be able to safely afford using bio fuels to reduce their carbon emissions. Regions with dangerous air quality would look at other options.
I feel your pain and anger. It's hard to believe how much greed can take over and let the planet burn. I still have hope but the fight cannot stop.
Greed has nothing to do with it. Fossil fuels are universally used because they're cheap and reliable and can feed house etc billions of people in thousands of places.
@@sebucwerd I'm sorry to break the news but greed is the reason why fossil fuels are still used everywhere. Transitioning to clean energy is possible but oil corporations are not willing to put their profit margin at stake, even if it means jeopardizing their own businesses in the long term.
@@sebucwerd are you dumb ? greed is the main reason why first world countries who have the money and resources to move away from fossil fuels are still relying on because companies lobby/ give money to politicians block any progressive policies to move away or ban new oil pipelines
Currently, according to the IEA, solar and onshore wind are undeniably cheaper than fossil fuels, and you lot should really drop the "sun doesn't always shine" argument, this may come as a bit of a shock for people that tremble in fear at the sight of someone wearing a lab coat but we've always known how to deal with the intermittentcy of renewable energy, it's just there are bigger companies demanding infrastructure be dedicated to gas, which for someone so worried about depending on an unreliable resource, LNG is the most unreliable since you have to buy it from a few corporations that will do anything to drive up the price
@@sebucwerd that calculation doesn't account for the result of the action, it's like hitting the Rock in the face and celebrating that you won. If you account for the health costs of using fossil fuels, they are as cheap as drinking uranium every day. It's like owning a car it's really cheap when pedestrians pay for the road maintenance they aren't using, and parking is paid by the soon to be bankrupt shop you visit.
Tax them appropriately, cut subsidies and watch how cheap they will be
Health is a great thing to hit with, because it causes a lot of grief.
However, it's a one, two punch, because all those diseases COST the economy money.
I think we will really see change when the BIG businesses realize what it is costing them.
Obviously there is the cost of fuel itself for all the machines that big business uses, but there's more, much more!
It makes their employees take more sick days off work. That's a huge productivity loss, right there.
There's the costs of extreme weather events to business infrastructure.
There's the cost of lost customers as climate change forces people to move, which makes them poorer and less able to buy products.
There's the cost of building infrastructure, like parking garages in company buildings.
These are just the general costs, a CEO, and CFO, ought to know the specific costs their business is taking on.
When I say that economically it is the fossil fuels industry against everyone else, I'm not joking.
They hurt us all, from the very richest (who often believe they are above being affected), to the very poorest.
If we really want to see the economy boom, we need to get rid of the weight of carbon pollution tied around the neck of our civilization.
More information on those costs is likely the reason why slowly more and more companies and investors are turning their backs on the fossil fuel industry, they've noticed the massive Ponzi scheme it actually is. But I fear that without a systemic change it won't happen soon enough
What you say is true and we have to show the ways the costs of pollution can't be externalized to governments and private citizens to these companies. The fossil fuel and automotive lobby is incredibly powerful but it isn't the whole world.
Why would we want to see our "economy boom"? It is already a lot larger than anyone could have ever imagined yet a lot of people continue to suffer. An increasingly unfair wealth distribution. People barely able to afford to buy food let alone have a roof above their head. Companies wich continue to strip mine our planet to get to every last bit of resource just for our never ending meaningless consume.
Blindly chasing this "booming economy" is exactly what has brought us to this place in time. If we need to do one thing then it is to refocus to improve the lives of an average person. Access to food, education, health care, culture, an intact environment and more. All of those things can be achieved without a "booming economy" (i.e. GDP) growth, because a lot of policies which would achieve/improve these things would "harm" the economy.
Sorry, but I really cannot hear this "We just have to grow our economy!" anymore...
@@_yonas
there's more than one way to "boom".
it doesn't have to mean more consumption.
if a company makes decent money while actually selling less, bringing in less revenue, is it not booming?
@@jimthain8777 Given standard economic definitions of growth: no. Although most people wouldn't use GDP, or whatever other figures are normally used to determine if a country does well anyway. This is for most people determined by the things I mentioned above. So for example expropriating large housing companies to make living more affordable again is considered "bad for the economy" but would be beneficial to a large amount of people. Taxing pollution properly is bad for the economy yet beneficial to the vast majority of people, and the list goes on.
Basically what is considered optimal for the economy is not what is optimal for the vast, vast majority of humans or the planet.
In The Netherlands, the majority voted a climate denier, among other of his scary ideas, as our candidate Prime Minister recently. I'm not to blame at all! I was shocked, felt depressed for a couple of days and I am very much concerned regarding the future of my kids. I'm more and more convinced that we enforce the Great Filter, as one of the explainations to the Fermi Paradox, upon ourselves. And observing (climate) science deniers to be proud of denying the rigourous scientific evidence since they did their own research pisses me off as well.
Last but not least. Thanks for the post, Simon! Job well done.
Not the majority, like 25% voted for him. It is the biggest, but the biggest doesn't mean majority
@@merlijnsiffels3292 yes, you are right. Thanks for the correction. Cheers
I absolutly love the knowlegde i get from these videos. And these themes need to be adressed more often. We seriously need to be more aware iof what is happening and take more action in to correcting what we can.
It feel like Simon used to stay a lot calmer and not get angry or use such direct language. Says a lot that he no longer feels able to do that.
There was a climate protest in Brussels last weekend but I have a feeling they’re not taking seriously by the government.
Europe has made a lot of laws over the last few years but none of the individual countries are even close to hitting these goals at the set deadline, they’re either moving deadlines or cancelling some goals, knowing they will have to pay a fine to Europe. It’s really frustrating indeed.
it's so inexplicable to me how so many of my peers still do not get it
Thank you for your video Simon. Don’t calm down. Find ways to get your videos to more people by encouraging your viewers to share it on this and other platforms.
Thanks so much for the update, Simon. We are all doomed. 😢
I actually think it's impossible to make a video about climate inaction without addressing capitalism. I mean, the question is WHY do government officials nod their heads but do "whatever they want" instead? Who's benefiting? What is this "economy" at stake? Why is the richest country that has never once deployed its defence for defence unable to afford complete green energy? The answer is obviously the billion-dollar companies that are invested in keeping themselves, not just afloat, but profitable.
Great video, Simon! Get angry! This whole situation is utterly ridiculous!
If by "ridiculous" you mean "sad, frightening and disappointing" I agree.
@@nsbd90now Let's add baffling and infuriating to the list.
And morally reprehensible so we know it's bad
Having Dubai as a host of the COP28 is like having Jimmy Savile presiding the UN children's committee
Or Jimmy Savile hosting a TV show about making kid's dreams come true.
Or Saudi Arabia presiding the UN human rights committee
These kinds of injustices don't just anger me. They make me borderline homicidal. I have to be careful about what media I consume on the topic, or I might end up on the news one day for something I don't want to be known for doing. If I had to deal with these things daily in my professional life, I would end up as a Batman villain. You have my respect, Simon.
Sadly, most of the one-man activism doesn't achieve anything. People burned themselves alive and only got some news articles about it. No actual change.
Obviously, take care of your mental health. If you can organise and achieve political change, even better
Cool youtube comment, you gonna actually do something about it?
I am going to become The Lorax.
Yet another awesome video, thank you!
I was wondering if you could do one on the mental health aspect of the climate crisis? As a fellow parent (currently of one but soon of two little ones), the climate is pretty much the single biggest issue I worry about in their lifetime... It's also affecting the way I make long-term plans (e.g. about where to live, what to invest in, how to spend my time and money etc).
I would LOVE to do a video on this - it would take time to do it right, but it's a really important topic
@@SimonClarkill be waiting
There's a video by Renegade Cut about "Where to Go When the World Ends" that feels very much half instructional, half pondering on where to relocate to as the effects of climate change accumulate.
@@SimonClarkSimon, if you see this, Chris Packham is taking the govt to court over this stuff. You can donate to his legal fund. He's raised £68,000 in about 24h. Put a shout out to your followers if it feels right (you know it makes sense.. :) We can fight this !!
The fact that this video isn't on the trending page, even if it's clearly one of the most important and well-made videos on the entire platform, makes me lose faith in humanity even more...
Thank you, Simon!
That is not How the Treading Page works and also anyone that has been on TH-cam for a good amount of time have Learned to ignore the Treading Page
Very true, I just want more people to see these kinds of videos.@@alface935
That’s less than Covid, and it’s mind blowing how little of a shit some people give about that.
Yeah, finally some *good* news today. I mean, 5 million to climate change is pretty much nothing. Oh wait, that was only for pollutants.
Estimate I heard earlier today was 9-9.5 *billion* deaths - with a b - from a total of, by then, 10 billion people on earth, by 2100.
We might already be past the tipping points where it's no longer our own CO2/Methane production causing it, but us trigging natural processes that can't be stopped.
Extreme heat causing food shortages, health issues, pollutants, natural disasters incl floods, wars over resources, disease spreading, extreme migration, and so on.
Morons in the US keep electing the "don't look up" crowd into political positions over culture war nonsense. And "don't look up" is now an export commodity of theirs.
And better yet, it's all fueled by their long time nemesis; Putler/Russia/USSR, and also China lately, and they choose to be blind about it.
I'm probably too old to experience most of it, but for someone in their 20s/30s, they'll have some interesting times ahead. I just hope I get to see Karma do its thing.
Thanks Simon for making these videos!
world situation is getting more pressing nowadays, we need change
Simon, the tone of this video is correct. You are right to be pissedoff about what's happening, and something needs to be said about it. Too many climate-change-related videos emphasize the hope that "we can still fix this if we act now..." without acknowledging that we are LOSING this fight, because of the inaction of governments, the nimbyism of people and the corporations that actively fight to increase emissions. Keep it up.
There are always things that little people can do outside of government and big corporations. Those things vary depending on what your circumstances are, and whether you can finance those things. Some things are expensive and restrictive - solar panels require you to own your roof, electric cars currently on,y tend to make sense if you can charge at home. These can only really be done by those with the disposable income or if enough people can come together to make a community thing happen like community solar or wind projects. But it can be done. Likewise small things can be done that are cheap, sometimes free or will pay for themselves in a short time and have a direct benefit for the person doing it. Things like fixing air leaks in a house in winter to stop heat escaping. Big corporations want your money and governments want to tax you on what you pay them. It may feel hopeless and tiny but it isn’t. Every tiny step up the mountain gets you closer to the goal and puts another dent in the fossil fuel industry’s inaction. Chip away at the negativity and failings bit by bit - it will eventually crumble. And even if you can’t do anything - just educate yourself as best you can so you understand what is happening and why. One day, you may be in a different position to take some action and then you will already have the knowledge to make the change that opportunity offers you.
I live in the land of giant pickup trucks, often times diesel powered. Almost every day, I have to hit the recirculate button on the AC to avoid breathing in all the diesel fumes. I’m sick of it. Do people really need an 8000 lb diesel powered pickup truck to drive around town?
No, they need them to provide shade with the black clouds that billow out, blocking the sun and providing the shade so you don't get sunburn sitting around the pile of burning tires 😊
Sorry but I'm a doomer when it comes to climate. Reading the IPCC report (summaries), it's beyond clear that we're in a world of trouble, and nowhere close to being where we need to be politically to actually enact meaningful climate policy. I said 10 years ago we wouldn't make our 2020 goals, and even with the pandemic we didn't come anywhere close to rallying around the globe for change.
We won't take the problem seriously because we don't have the political culture to face the inherent (problematic) realities of capitalism itself. We'll spin our wheels with public-private partnerships, "nudges" and social engineering, "harm reduction," "adaptation," and other political games to deny, delay, and prevent meaningful change at every level.
Despite noble efforts in the social sciences, we still haven't solved basic problems of human social coordination. Our institutions lack, and are losing, trust; the world's powerful can drown out the needs of the world's poorest; and we're politically polarized around topics that, frankly, don't matter if we don't have functioning ecosystems. Deeply disenchanted.
I just put together why your channel(s) don't get as many views as they deserve. You talk about truths that others don't want to be served.
Not ALL the TRUTH just yet, but Simon is a new dad, he will get madder in coming years.
Why does this nonsense go on?? Because with eyes and brains mostly closed to various collective "meh" degrees, we VOTE for the people to continue this fossil fuel economy.
We may be doomed.
COP28 = Fossil Fuel Paid For CRAP and LIE.
Thank you for making these videos Simon, never stop!
Thank you Simon! Totally feel you!
Unfortunately IMHO, all those "collective security systems" run by individuals who don't really represent or defend that collective. Therefore, on the one hand I'm hopeless for any change, but on the other... It's just inevitable and we'll survive and outlive them all.
Keep up your amazing, inspiring and highly empowering work🙏
It's genuinely heartening to see you get angry. People who aren't angry aren't paying attention.
Great Video Simon, it brought back memories of the debate that I met you at in Trinity! I actually had a portion of my speech dedicated to this very topic: deaths per year from fossil fuels, nowhere near as well researched or presented though
I a sense of long term statistics I don't like the phrase "prevent death". I prefer "postpone death" instead. Everyone is going to die, you can attribute some years of life lost to airquality, but not the whole death of a person. I suppose they add up the lost years of life and derive the amount of deaths from that?
5 million out of 8 billion per year is only 1 person dying in every 1600. I imagine that ratio has to get considerably larger before governments take real action. 😟
I feel as though I'm forced to face this burden of air pollution without my consent. I bike to work and I'm forced to breathe this air that people are just entitled to pumping out poison. Even as a pedestrian, you're placed under a burden of pollution and traffic accidents. It has become so engrained into society but it really needs to be questioned.
Stark, clear, and enlightening. By knowing exactly what's at stake, we can draw a direct line to what is acceptable to prevent or mitigate such losses.
By knowing exactly what's preventing change, we know exactly who and what need to be removed from the way of saving all these people.
I'm in a political party in Norway, and honestly it's infuriating to advocate again and again for climate action and for us as an oil nation to end fossil fuels as we do as a party when the vast majority of political parties aren't up to do what's necessary. We've managed to push our current government somewhat but not at all far enough.
I live in Alberta, Canada, another rich democratic state very heavily invested in the fossil fuel industry. What you're achieving in Norway is honestly very impressive compared to the disastrous situation here. Keep it up!
Keep On Polluting 28 saw new fossil fuel deals which will guarantee a further increase in CO2 emissions just as the previous 27. This will enable the richest 1% of the population to increase their income and will not play on their conscience as they have no interest whatsoever in other people. Scientists really need to start thinking of how to keep the temperature below 3 degree rise as the attempts to limit it to 1.5 degrees have failed miserably.
They may think they're immune, but they breathe those pollution particles too.
Many of the richest people on Earth are actually losing money because of fossil fuels.
I know they haven't realized this because most of their businesses haven't transitioned away from the problem... yet.
One day they're going to look into the costs that fossil fuels have on their bottom line, and change will come swiftly.
If there's one thing those CEOs don't like it's things that loose their companies, and themselves money.
Climate change costs lots, and lots of money for every economy, and that means every one of those billionaires would be richer,
in a world without climate change.
Don't forget that this time there were three times as many fossil fuel representatives there to lobby as last time, yet ecologists and climate activists must wait outside to not affect decision making, what a farce
I mean scientists already did think of that in the IPCC report. What scientists think of is a very very small part of the problem compared to what people on yachts think of the problem.
Global heating impacts, causing a collapse of agricultural process and an abrupt abandonment of fossil fuels for most uses, will kill most humans on Earth. Does that count?
It’s funny she drew the parallel to smoking. When I was a college student in Southern california in the 80’s, the smokers drew that same parallel as an excuse to keep smoking. “I heard that just living here is like smoking a pack a day, so…”
Keep doing what you're doing Simon.
Great video although I question how effective it is to do politics when getting angry, but for activism video that is the way to go. Some more background on how the death toll is calculated would be interesting since all people are going to die anyways. Is this counting lost healthy living years taking life expectancy into count or some other calculation method?
For better or for worse, anger tends to be one of the best motivators for action on the internet.
You can add years of living with long term illnesses caused by burning fossil fuels.
For every person that dies, there are millions more who won't die, but will live compromised lives instead.
You could be one of those people, if you're a little bit unlucky.
Another excellent video. The emotion within it balanced with the always high standard of research results in one of the most compelling videos on climate change that I've ever seen
Great video Simon!
It's sad to see how people like Simon, who are normally very composed, are visibly starting to crack because of what is (not) happening with climate action.
Burning wood also causes a *lot* of PM2.5 pollution that goes right into the lungs - aside from Carbon Monoxide, that can also reach dangerous levels inside the room with the wood-fire place.
Cheers and thanks for this otherwise!
Thd majority of air pollution deaths are from the burning of wood and animal dung.
This video is great but I had to stop it to watch your (also excellent) Jingle Jam Quiz!
It is hard to remain positive. It is hard but we have to be positive and push back at the bastards who are trying to destroy the planet and everything living on it.
Wish you could break down pm 2.5 and other harmful air pollutants by sources of emission for example I heard in the U.S class 8 trucks lead to 36% of harmful air pollutants.made me think how much do coal peaker plants contribute to pollution in the U.S and around the world.if anyone has any credible link to this information do share. Thanks
This video is incredible at putting into focus some of the lesser known effects of climate change.
I think where most of us have gone wrong in the past is thinking the solution is voting for environmental parties and engaging in climate friendly practices on an individual level. I think we are naive to think that an environmental party in a capitalist system would ever do enough to mitigate climate change. Lobbyists and the power of capital will ensure profits over everything. Even the lives of millions. We need to be thinking of more radical political and economic change than "holding your government to account" and "using your democratic voice". We need to use evidence and scientific data as justification for heavily criticizing and taking radical action against the capitalist governments who have forced us into this position.
I look at the future, and how vulnerable we are to crop failures, and it looks like societal collapse. Humans are crazy good at surviving, but our complex systems? I don't want to lose peace, safety, and hot showers...
Global warming plus adaptation results in 13% increases in high latitude whest and low latitude rice yields.
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This graph is striking but also feels misleading.
Saying that 100% of people are exposed to air pollution is of little use without considering duration and frequency.
Also: am I the only one that thinks the low result for the US is odd?
Thank you thanks you for going back to making personal presentations with passion rather than the sterile infographic presentation which i see every week at work. These videos are your best work by far as i can connect with you and relate to you at the human level. What's more effective - a PowerPoint with a voiceover or physically going to a speech or presentation? For me, it's the latter, others will disagree which is fine 😊.
We appreciate your angrier side. Its what will be needed if we want to change anything in our current system. They would try to stomp out our anger but we need to utilize it as it is the energy that can change things.
Who can we democratically elect that will not drag their feet on climate change? There's no one. Go ahead and vote as best you can, but direct action is needed to find the path forward.
Very good jingle jam contribution well done Simon
I'm all for climate action, but i feel there's a massive chunk of missing perspective. Like, how many life years are lost. 5 million people losing 5 years from the end of life is not comparable to 5 million people dying in their youth. And 5 million is less than 1 in a 1000 people. 5 years off the life of 1 in 1000 people lets me shrug my shoulders. Maybe I'm just a bit numb post-pandemic where we had something claiming completely healthy people within weeks.
Honestly, i find the impact on entirely guiltless wildlife much more compelling. I imagine that for the 5 million people, there are 100s times as many plants and animals being affected and whole ecosystems being lost to the footprint of those same combustion activities and then polluted waterways etc etc. that's not so easy to shrug at when you realise that we are inextricably interconnected with nature.
Yes we need to recognize the value of non-human life.
Ffs the advert that popped up was a BP greenwashing/hydrogen aren't we wonderful show off 🤬
5 million?
That's ridiculous.
If we get away with 5 billion we'll have got off very lightly.
Climate change or not this is a surface issue !
We ignore the most pressing issue ! What about our oceans, rivers and aquifers !
Water , especially drinking water is already more expensive than a gallon of gas for a reason !
Depends on where you live on water will be or not be a problem, but that problem is greatly caused by climate change as well as overexploitation of water sources to produce plants that shouldn't be growing there in the first place!
I'm from Spain, can you tell? Most of our aquifers are overexploited and you've probably heard of Doñana or Tablas de Daimiel, perfect examples of what I described
@@Solstice261I lived in Oran Algeria in the late 50’s . The Mediterranean coast line water was crystal clear . That is no longer the case . Coming into view of New York in 1960 I saw barges dumping waste directly into the sea . There was a time in the US there were no recycling centers. In the country oil changes for farm equipment was dumped into the ground .
I could go on about factories by rivers but you understand where I am coming from . Russia , India and China are no better .
@@hotchihuahua1546 god that must have been awful, luckily I've never had to deal with that kind of pollution, the US ought to at the very least pay reparations to the affected population and recover the areas, but yeah we all heard of the trash ships, even from here. I am sad to say the situation in the Mediterranean has become quite dire, agricultural run off has turned the blue waters into an algae filled, foul smelling soup. It doesn't reach the levels of actively throwing trash in the ocean but I see your point the problem is definitely deeper than just climate change
Money talks, people will never change (those in power that is)! Frustrating indeed.
I mean, the Trotskyists might be right on this one. How many of them are gathered in *the one place* again?
Don't calm down. We needed to be made a bit angry so we can carefully channel that energy into holding our local and global leaders to account! Thanks for the call to action. Great video!
Just as Simon points out, and everyone tells me I constantly harp on about, the politicians in power for probably most of those watching here, are the ones who are letting this continue. We put them there, or at least our uncles and aunts did.
We could choose a different set of politicians and keep changing them until we get what we want. Instead, we get what we deserve.
Given the stochastic nature of weather changes, I am concerned the risks of food insecurity, even in the west, is not understood and downplayed. Any real famine could totally eclipse the 5M figure. This impact could be mitigated against, but given attitudes, it won't even be considered until the first event has happened.
I would love to see you talk about the direct effects of high CO2 concentrations on human health. Tom Scott did a great video where he locked himself in a tent with roughly 5,000ppm of CO2, and he was exhousted and gasping for air. Even at 1000ppm, studies have found significant cognitive deficits.
I know that being angry feels terrible and is hard to express constructively, but you're doing a great job! We are angry at those who are working to undermine the wellbeing of this world and hurt people for monetary gain. Thank you for being angry so publicly. Thank you.
When it comes to COP being a sham, i won't forget how back in, idk, 2018, in march of 2018, there was a COP in katowice, Poland - And unfortunately this same day, I had a "homework" from my sound engineering school, for the "instrument studies" school subject - To go to a concert in a concert hall in katowice and then write an analysis of it...
Going there and finding any place to park a car was a nightmare... My father and I were pi**ed at these activists, the people living in this city probably too, because all the people, all the politicians and celebrities, who went there, used basically all of the parking spaces in the city - and even people living in some places couldn't park there, because, idk, Greta thunberg or someone else had to park there, and probably forced people living in that city to basically park somewhere else, maybe few kilometers away and walk back home on foot - Let me add that this was beginning of march, so it was still cold, because this wasn't a spring yet, it was still winter and it was evening... So if someone had to go back few kilometers on foot, because some politician, activist or celebrity parked on their place, then... i feel kinda sorry for them...
Also, when it comes to pollution - I'm almost sure that COP in 2018 (or 19, i don't remember exactly) caused some pollution - because it paralysed an entire city for hours, if not the entire day or so, and caused gigantic traffic jams in the city...
Basically, these people paralysed the entire city, probably caused ton of pollution due to car staying very long in traffic jams, to talk how "climate change is bad and using coal and fossil fuels is also bad, and there should be discussion" and so on, and so forth...
Most of my friends from school, had to go to a different concert, because due to traffic jams and other stuff like this, they were unable to go to that concert...
I understand you Simon, but how do we oppose $7 Trillion of only government subsidy. Plus their own resources. How?
Am I wrong, or isnt airpollution a subcategory of climate cgange, but a separate thing. Both are certainly stemming from the burning fossil fuels, but you surely cant say that air pollution isnt a separate thing.???
powerful video simon. cannot understate how important it is to make such clear and concise statements calling out the inaction of our representatives.
Leaving this comment to create more interaction for this very important message!
They couldn't care less about lives. They do care about quarterly dividends
Here is something to keep in mind: people tend to be self-interested. Even to the extent of being irrationally self-interested, or more horribly pursuing one's self interest at the expense of the interests of the majority. I say this because the people, businesses, and countries that are opposed to moving away from an oil-based economy are the ones that benefit the most from the production and sale of crude and refined oil. Maybe you've heard the saying "follow the money"? How about "follow the self-interest"?
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait and other Middle Eastern are so dependent on the global sale of oil to keep their economies afloat that if the world switched away from fossil fuels rapidly their economies would collapse and their whole country would be made destitue and impoverished. This in turn would lead to massive death as their health care industries shut down, their utilities stopped running, and in all other ways their countries will experience a societal and economic collapse. It's easy to stand against meaningful action on climate change when meaningful action is bad for your country, your company, and you personally.
I'm not saying that they are just for doing this just because they have a justification for doing it. Everyone is justified in their own minds in everything they do. I'm saying that if we just want to get rid of fossil fuels and transition to a de-carbonized economy without making sure that these middle eastern countries don't have to worry about their economies and civilizations collapsing with nothing that can fill in the gap left by oil, then they will continue to be the very rich, powerful and well-connected enemies of climate action. It will be easier to remove them as an obstacle to meaningful climate action if we pay attention to what the self interests of the opponents to climate action are, and find ways to address those self interests.
There is probably no amount of support they could receive that would change their minds, as there are still trillions of dollars to be made selling fossil fuels and they are fabulously rich at this very moment. Furthermore they are autocracies with even less chance of popular pressure changing government policy than in the very restricted democracies of the world.
Personally I’ve lost hope in being able to fix climate change. I’ve always said greed and corruption is an inherent human trait, and I now feel like doing the right thing will never happen when the option is “fix the problem” or “make myself rich in my short life”.
Interesting video.
Wake up people, listen to what he is saying.
The fact that this shit is happening in Dubai of all places goes to show it's all theatre. It's an insult to our intelligence that a country which dredged the seabed to build luxury islands (that have now sunk so much they were abandoned) is the host to a climate change summit.
9:44 Correction: Technically everyone is aging all the time.
These people are ruining lives during the Climate Chris! Thanks for the Video, Simon.
The tombstone of our current global civilization will read 'Died Of Stupidity'. And it IS going to die.
It's simply naive to think that governments and oil industry could be bothered about 5 million lives a year. Double it and they wouldn't bat an eyelid. They just want money and power, that's all.
Commenting to boost this - I have a strange feeling that this sort of content is going to be buried by the all-knowing algorithm
Given the next 2 COPs are both in countries with major fossil fuel sectors, I somehow don't think anything constructive is going to get done there either.
Whoa, look who just joined the party.
It blows my mind the amount of change that happened in the world due to COVID compared to the relative complete inaction on climate change which stands to affect exponentially more lives.
(edit: Crazy, I made this comment directly before they start comparing it to COVID in the video. MIND READERS!)
There is no climate crisis, just claims that there is one.
The thing is, even the greens in our country aren't doing much, and are much more happy disabling atomic power plants and turning on coal. What are we supposed to do? Except spread the word as much as possible
why 5 million. seems arbitrary. there is no cut off date to global warming, or collapse in general. you could say 5 million in 6 months i suppose. that might make sense. but what about 2040 or later. inaction is the wrong word too, as it assumes action could occur. industrial civilization is an engine that has to run on fossil fuels. and human nature precludes action. the truth is up to 10 billion humans will perish depending what the population grows to before the dieoff.
I really really share your frustration!! Thanks for making this video!
11:03 "7% of global GDP is spent on subsides for the fossil fuel industry"
For Americans trapped in the 2 party system, your answer is primaries. Don't change a bad Democrat for a worse Republican. Vote out "moderate" dems in exchange for progressives.
How to coordinate global climate action? By financing and funding what needs to be done. And only paying for measured results. Please look into Carbon Quantitative Easing and the Global Carbon Reward before you do anything else. 5 million lives /year is a heavy price to pay for inaction.
Does Simon have a response to Dr Koonin? Whar does Simon say? Simple Simon?
**5 Billion* to say the least...
When the air pollution is eliminated - the temperature rises rapidly.
The IPCC has underestimated the global dimming effect (James Hansen 'Flying Blind')
There is no shame in being sincere
Thanks Simon! Wasn't so aware of the air pollution side of the crisis.
Thank you for your clear statements. I completely agree with your analysis.
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Including staff and media there will be about 100,000 participants, of which 3% virtually. Most will come by airplane.
PLEASE please try to translate this video or work together with other creator around the world to get this message even more widely spread. I hate the fact that there are almost no videos out there in german for example, i can send to my family or friends who are not watching youtube videos or climate related content regularly, adressing the emergency and wording it in the way it needs to be said to make you feel the anger. so more people could feel the sense of urgency and devestation so many of us experience for years now, wich make me be so numb, hopless and defeated sometimes. as you said, it pisses me off just watching every passing day with more excuses, inaction or stupid decisions made by our political leaders. people who are meant to save and protect society but are currently blowing it up with force. its hard to stay optimistic for our communal future in this reality
As I see it, the reason not much is happening is because it's not positively engaging. You can only motivate people generally to a certain amount of not very effective action through fear. But by definition, motivation though fear doesn't bring online the creative brain that can think out of the box to create a better world. In a nutshell, it's boring!
Creative engagement is not about what we stop doing, it's about reimagining our world, & focusing on solutions, not problems. Most climate issues can be massively improved by regenerating land, water & ecosystems but no one at COP is talking much about that. Plants trap pollution, rain washes it out of the air, & a healthy hydrological cycle is a climatological refrigeration cycle. I think there's much more bang for our buck as well as opportunities for mass engagement in these areas than endlessly talking about fossil fuels, especially as some of the substitutes maybe even worse - child labour in lithium mining, forced labour in China making solar panels.
We need to relocalise & start doing stuff ourselves, not leaving it to these corrupt conventions of corporations & politicians.
PS my garden is full of water features & I love in Totnes, home of the Transition Town movement.
There are a surprising amount of people getting triggered over facts and logic in the comments here
Thank you for your activism