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- It feels like opinions on the Simpsons post season 9 are so universally accepted that they're unquestionable. So I'm going to question them.
/ stubagful
Stuff that I referred to/pictures I used:
Death of the Author by Roland Barthes - read it here
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Aspects of the Novel by EM Forster - buy it here
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Top 10 Worst episodes of the SImpsons from Kotaku
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The TV Tropes page on Flanderization
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The TV Tropes page on Jerkass Homer
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Rio Blames Tourism lag on Lisa Simpson - Houston Chronicle
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BBC news - Simpsons apologise to Rio
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Antifreeze Poison found in 10 wines - New York Times archive
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Pew Research - How US Religious composition has changed in recent decades
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Members of the Westboro Baptist Church demonstrate at the Virginia Holocaust Museum on March 2, 2010. By JCWilmore - Own work, CC BY 3.0, commons.wikime...
Not quoted, but its a decent book I read recently and was on my mind a lot while writing - The Science of Writing Characters: Using Psychology to create compelling Fictional Characters by Kira Ann Pelican
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Progress at time of posting: midway through season 24 and only slightly losing the will to live
Because of the declining quality (not sure how much you agree with that being the case), the fact that it's been over 500 episodes of the same damn show, or because you're starting to develop mental health symptoms like having dreams about that show?
The deja vu is weird. I keep running into episodes where characters say exact lines they've said before. I watched a season 22 episode where Grampa says "I'm going to give you your inheritance now. That way I can watch you enjoy it" and suddenly my brain zooms to a season 5 episode where he said that exact line. It's like show is haunting me
@@Stubagful Now I want to see for myself, but I am positive that I will be too reasonable, too busy with other things or too lazy to do so. Unless I can quickly figure out which two episodes you mean. Might kill some time during a train ride.
This isn't actually meant as a request, since I don't want to make one and also think it would be difficult if not impossible to fulfil it, but what I've noticed in the past several years is that the new episodes are extremely forgettable to me in the literal sense, and I would be interested in hearing if you feel the same way. What has regularly happened is that I've read about a plot of a very recent episode and thought to myself "Guess I haven't seen that one" and then either re-watched it (the first few times) or just checked the ending (the other times) just to find out that I'd actually seen the episode. I keep wondering whether this also has to do with me having rewatched most Golden Age episodes many times, or if it is really the episodes themselves that are forgettable, regardless of the fact that I've only seen them once, at least to me.
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Honestly I watched one of the more recent series and found it genuinely heartfelt, the episode in the wilderness and Lisa's brekky were some genuine standout episodes I loved
The Tony Blaire bit was actually one of the best in the episode 'cos after he leaves Homer says 'Oh my god! I can't believe we just met Mr. Bean' it's one of a very few jokes I did enjoy about that episode.
It was a damp squib of an episode.
@@pious83 I preferred Homer's Barbershop Quartet, which has a damp squid.
I like the bit where they get stuck on a roundabout
@@pious83I remember watching it live as a kid, it was one of the first times I realized the show was going down
Apparently the whole scene was Blair's idea.
I think one thing is kinda missing in the "competition" chapter, is King of The Hill which leaned more in the direction of the genuine family style of writing so Simpsons was kinda caught between it and Family Guy for a long time
That "imagined ending" for 'Kidney Trouble' is more or less what happened in the Futurama episode, 'Obsoletely Fabulous'. While the two episodes are not one and the same, they have similar story beats (the main character escapes from an operation, heads out to sea, meets a gang of misfits, and eventually completes said operation). Only, in the case of Futurama, Bender _does_ wake up from a dream, and actually reflects on his attitude; keep in mind, this is for a robot to whom Bender, let alone the audience, has no emotional attachment, and only appears in one episode (plus some of the movies) afterwards.
Wait, what other robot are you referring to?
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Robot 1-X.
@@TotoDG Thanks! I keep remembering this episode very incompletely.
It's interesting seeing how the disscusion around post "golden age" simpsons has evolved. It used to be a case of everything post season 10/11 was just written off, but since the generation of fans during the 2000s growing up & all the episodes being widely accessable on Disney+ means there's a more nuanced discussion on the quality of the show.
That's an interesting point. I do remember watching a good amount of these episodes growing up but I never felt the need to rewatch them.
@@mikewilliams6025 or maybe it’s other people hold different opinions are now more vocal to challenge the status quo
i dunno about that one - i'm of said age here, and having watched most episodes at least up to around S27 (when i really just couldn't be bothered anymore), my comfort revisit zone with simpsons is completely what this apparent younger generation of fans consider doctrinaire i.e. S1 to 8 or so, occasionally rewatching the good ones from S9 to 11 too
i can certainly single out the odd memorable joke or slightly above average episode from after that point, but it's hard not to think of how killer what came before was with very few genuine filler, the extraordinarily dense vs ordinarily sparse - so i do wonder how much personal standards and will to try different, better things after getting bored come into this
Did they show King of the Hill much in the UK? That was Fox's other animated show for adults coming out around this time so I imagined it influenced the tone of The Simpsons a little bit too, although it was far more 'grounded' than Family Guy or South Park.
I've never really watched it. But it's been aired in the UK. I'm sure it's still on somewhere, I just don't really watch TV anymore so I'm not sure. I'm not sure it's particularly popular though.
Futurama would run after The Simpsons, perhaps early 00s in the UK?
Ohhh! I've been looking forward to this one. Appreciate your videos, very well written and entertaining. I am almost completing my collection of The Simpsons on physical media, only 3 seasons left.
I thought the Simpsons being on BBC 2 was just a fever dream of mine but it really was.
I remember getting annoyed when bbc2 would pull the Simpsons because a tennis match overran
@@Stubagful God that was such a throwback those damn tennis matches. I think the Simpsons were also not on when the day 9/11 happened and Queen Mum died too 😅 that's all I can remember from those days as i was so young 😅
At one point the line up I think was Simpsons then malcolm in the middle and then buffy.
@@kumajin3621 Oh my god, brain blast
The joke is that Homer thinks Tony Blair is Mister Bean.
In the wedding video scene in the film, the writers had nearly slipped in a joke where right before the camera would cut to the video after Marge would tearfully say "Goodbye Homie", she would get up and ask Bart to help her turn off the camera, proceeding to struggle with it. They thankfully knew that they had to back off for that scene and let the tone carry the scene.
“Robin Hood’s a character” “HE SURE IS” one of my favourites🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't you mean Sherlock Holmes?
@@RespectTheLogos3 ahhh fuck yeahhh🤣🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈
Caracatures of Robin Hood and Santa Claus(Saint Nicholas) are characters, but only Sherlock Holmes is a character without real world counterpart… what we see from Disney, Coca-Cola and others for the first two aren't REALLY nothing more than caracatures and commercial representation of real life people…
What about in series 5 'The Last Temptation of Homer' where Hibbert is prepared to use a tube to send Marge and Bart to another country if they didn't have insurance, I mean he doesn't exactly do it with glee but he becomes more sinister and I wouldn't say it's sympathetic, wasn't he always sort of like that?
I fell asleep the first ca. six times that I tried to watch this video and started all over each time, but now I've done it! I can be just as proud for having managed to watch this video as you can be for having managed to make it!
I never understood the post golden age hate. I grew up on these seasons and enjoyed it a lot as a whole. I Am Furious (Yellow) is a BANGER
I'm not a big fan of the episode, and I can see the criticism but the scene where Dr. Hibbert says that he helped himself to one of Homer's kidneys really does never fail to make me laugh my head off...
That story was likely never going to work as a Simpsons episode, but John Swartzwelder did his best to inject his brand of humour into it. The bit where he asks Marge to blow up the hospital is still funny to me.
I misread the title the first time as: "pre Golden Age" and was disappointed at the thought of this being a 2-hour video about those shorts and maybe season 1 and 2.
I hope adult animation takes inspiration to be the next BoJack Horseman. Although I hope its not a horrible influence were people take the wrong lessons on what made BoJack Horseman good like Watchmen and A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones.
“When You Dish Upon a Star” is my personal pick for where the show jumped the shark. There are great episodes that come after it, but that episode is the earliest one that I actively dislike and do not want to watch.
This is a two pee break video. Very insightful, as always.
"It can't be Simpsons fatigue"? Why not? This show, by all greatness, always had a pretty limited scope. So at some point it either gets too out of character or repetitive...
Or both, as it did.
I think Simpsons should really take a note from Southpark. Do only a few episodes each year and put all your ideas and effort into those.... And since there are, like, 3 good eps each new season, that would make so much more sense than whatever they do now.
As someone who watched the simpsons in Czech, I consider the 12th series to be the end of the golden age, when the original voice actor of Homer got sick and they replaced him from the 13th series. Although officially, I would stretch it up to the 15th series, when the Simpsons still radiated the right atmosphere.
Missed an oppertunity by not having the globe land on Youaregay.
He gave up after 829 unsuccessful spins.
Broooo they were spamming TF outta that Thomas Edison episode 😭😭😭😭 Im glad im not the only one pissed about that
"So, from now on, anything caught in your zipper will be handled by the school nurse and not me."
Okay, for real, that made me laugh. 😂
Lol not saying it's not funny, just I hear that and my love for the principal and the pauper makes me go "wait, hold on a minute"
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1:31:10 - 1.31.17
My gosh. Lisa sounds like the most pretentious little girl in this clip. XD
Because the Simpsons as a franchise has over 600 episodes over the corse of 34 years, I realised that when the show started to become popular, the show became more Quantity over quality just like SpongeBob.
I always loved the middle seasons.
The thing about the kidney episode is that Homer pretty much tortured Abe into bursting his kidney. You don't let an obscenely old man hold his pee like that. I was a kid and thought since Homer was at fault, I felt no sympathy for him. Abe didn't torture Homer into bursting his organs. I lost quite a lot of hope in humanity because I saw that the writers thought all the choking and cruelty as a fun pastime. Not so funny when you've seen quite a few bits of it in reality.
Did you ever read the Dead Homer Society blog?
Im almost at the end of season 14 myself and im still enjoying 90% of the episodes. Im just accepting the fact that the show has had to evolve with the times. I originally gave up at season 17 so im actually excited to see what season 18 and onwards is like.
"I originally gave up at season 17"
"Im almost at the end of season 14"
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@@flariz4824 It's not that difficult. When I watched the show years ago I gave up around season 17. Now on my rematch I'm on season 14(15 actually).
As cringe and ill-advised as the plot twist in Principal and the Pauper is, don't let the cringe factor blind you to how freaking S-tier the jokes and dialog are, even in the most hated scenes. It's a VERY funny, acidly cynical episode. Agnes is in rare form.
I hate the one where Maude dies it happens for no reason in a stupid way and why did Ned deserve that he's like the nicest characters it didnt hit hard but also felt mean spirited
After Maude's death he's a really nice guy. Before that he's actually a very judgmental, hateful man who puts on an act of humility because he's projecting his Christianity, usually to deny to himself that he's a sinner.
I never got on board the golden age train people spew so much of, I just like the episodes I like, whether they're from the first few seasons or even the recent ones. times change, and so do the people who have been imprisoned in The Simpsons Crypt all these 30 or so years. standards for writing have changed, and while its true an episode with the quality of the "Golden Era Seasons" might not happen ever again, there are still good episodes of the newer seasons. the series is too big to die at this point so you might as well enjoy what you can from what they churn out. fantastic video.
I have a lot fond memory of the Simpsons during seasons 10- 18. Some of my favorite episodes come from this era. Maybe it’s because it was really the only Simpsons I saw growing up making me nostalgic for them or because they’re actual good ( I’m going with the ladder personally.) Also IMO I think the golden age ends at season 12 and the “sliver age” lasts from the beginning of season 13 until the movie.
Odd most people say the Golden Age ended on Season 9 with Armin Tamzarian,
Season 11 is my vote for most underrated Simpsons season. If it ended at "Behind the Laughter" we would all remember this show as basically perfect. The movie should have been about The Simpsons meet Itchy & Scratchy or Bart Vs. the Space Mutants.
Excellent video, really, you're really really great at this
I firmly believe that The Simpsons should get one last season where it leans into the family and Springfield. Every episode ages them 1 year, we see adult Lisa, Bart and Maggie. We see Marge and Homer age and struggle with their marriage but come to an amazing understanding. Older characters die, but at the last episode, as Marge and Homer celebrate 40 years of marriage, everyone in Springfield comes to celebrate and OOPS the power plant has nobody monitoring it and it explodes, destroying Springfield. The final frame is the photo of the Simpsons from the end of episode 1, Santa's Little Helper fluttering down, battered and a bit burned, next to a photo of The Simpsons, fully mature and happy. With Santa's Little Helper 6. It's the ending they deserve.
The wastes potential of calling Voldemort-Burns "MontyMort" instead of "Voldemont"....
Funny, I never heard of flanderization... But I told people that Friends became a bad show due to caricature-izaton, or Monica-ization. Were all the characters got boiled down with their flaws highlighted. Kinda like how a caricature artist makes a big nose huge, or asks you if you play golf so they can draw that as your personality. That's the show to point to. Ross became only whiney, Joey and Phoebe became only stupid, Monica became only controlling, and Rachel just became naive. 2D frim 3D. Flanders fluctuates at least to sometimes be interesting.
31:36 "The Computer Wore Menace Shoes" made me think of the Disney film "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes"(1969)… as opposed to that other show you said it was a parody of… 🤔🤔
I must also say this video is quite liberatory. I'm not praising the post-golden age era at all, but I've some personal classics from that period.
I like for example" I Am Furious (Yellow)" with Stan Lee who portrays himself as the equivalent of Grandpa Simpson in the comic book scene. I supposed he was already aware of people calling him senile or out-of-touch on the Internet.
"The Father, the Son and the Holy Guest Star" is for me a very good Simpsons episode about religion despite rehashing some older stories about Bart.
I won't try to argue those are subversive episodes with polished writing. They're not, but they still have some redeeming qualities.
I like your narration. Reminds me a bit of TheraminTrees' channel. Maybe not so much content wise as voice and narration style....wise. +1sub.
Oh, and also - Gil is the best character of all times. Ok, I'll shaddap now.
I dropped off the Simpsons sometime probably during the golden age, I am roughly the same age as the show, so I didn't exactly get much choice when those around me stopped watching, but I always assumed that the end of the Simpsons golden age was like the end of most "golden ages" in history. They didn't end with a bang, but rather a series of whimpers that you couldn't really tell meant something until well after the fact because they all came together to be a bigger problem than the sum of their parts.
Stu art
I just rewatched the first video yesterday and then the second one came out lol
It's finally here
not liking Bart vs. Australia is a crime.
I always kind of felt like in the situations where a celebrity guest star on the show shows up and takes over most of the episode, or the Simpsons just travel somewhere for the sake of having the characters clash with some other culture, in these later seasons it was often more so a demand from higher ups to do an episode with x guest star or where the simpsons go to y to boost viewer numbers, and the writers didn't really want to so they made it intentionally obvious and bad and draw attention to the fact they didn't actually want to do this episode, they were just being forced to shove this celebrity guest star in because the studio execs told them they had to. Granted, that doesn't make the episodes where it happens good by any means, i'm just saying, i feel like it's often intentionally bad an jarring when a lot of people think they're trying to be serious. I'd still say it get's incredibly egregious in later seasons as well to the point where even if i feel like they still operate on the "Let's be incredibly obvious and awkward about this forced celebrity crossover we don't wanna do" i still can't even pretend to defend it, Lisa goes Gaga, i'm lookin at you!!
Friendly note. I find the topic and the content very well done and very interesting, but I find the background music distracting.
Season 16 is where it ended for me- I actually think 9-15 were golden. IMO, two things killed the show: a)The show became too dramatic. Every ep became a mini-drama, with too much time & resources being spent to set-up and resolve a plot. Too many jokes were jettisoned in favor of an emphasis on the plot. People don't watch cartoons for the plot! The show worked when it was mainly an excuse for jokes and parody, with any plots being of only secondary concern.
b)The show became too formulaic. For just one example: Every episode started to contain at least one long(ish) montage set to a popular song. That gets old QUICK and should be used VERY sparingly.
BONUS: c) The show, which had always been "stuck" in time, began to reference more contemporary culture and incorporate modern issues. Again, that is NOT why we watch cartoons. Cartoons should offer an escape from the modern world and it's problems. The Golden Age is so golden because the show was perpetually set in 1990, and offered us a retreat from the present world, while still being "relevant" because it parodied the culture which it came from (much as Bugs Bunny did in the 40's & 50's, and thus still remains relevant and wonderful to this day) and the never-changing foibles of humanity.
I'm still impressed though that they were able to keep the show so good for as long as they did.
Your video is weird because you keep saying exactly what the difference is between the golden age and the newer era in this video and the last video while also saying people don’t know what the difference is.
The difference is this: more hits and much fewer misses. And sincerity. Newer episodes (later seasons) are less sincere and miss more often than not based on the sincerity missing and the cheap inclusion of gimmicks like celebrity focus and flanderization of people and characters. You can point out that there are stand outs or areas where they “tried” but it’s a trend not a black and white thing.
You’ve made those observations repeatedly but then summarize it as if there is no difference.. like all the same data but then just dismiss it all and say “we are different the story isn’t”.
I think the reall issue is that writers ran out of ideas
I've always thought season 10 was pretty forgettable but season 11 has some of my favorite episodes like Behind the Laughter and The Mansion Family. I even liked the season 12 Treehouse of Horror. I think season 13 was the first season I considered unwatchable.
I'm kind of late to this video, but I caught the first one the other day and moved on to watching this one. While I liked the first one, this one felt much more like a personal essay than an analysis. That's fine as long as you know that's what you're going for, but I felt like the first video bridged that gap more expertly.
This video felt a bit too full of anecdotes to argue with. "I always heard this complaint about these seasons" and then you spend a lot of time arguing against a complaint the viewer may not have heard, may not have ever agreed with, or in some cases is a surprisingly niche corner of Simpsons criticism. The issue with Flanderisation isn't Flanders became more Christian, it's that he became a zealot at the exclusion of everything else about him. It is a thing even the writers noticed and tried to course-correct for, but like everything in later seasons, they took it to extremes.
This video felt too much like Stubagful started from the position of "This didn't bother me/the internet overreacted like it always does and I will be the logical voice defending it." I think once you cross that line, it stops being an analysis and becomes entirely just a personal essay. Which is to some degree fair, because we've all touched this show and walked away carrying a different piece of it, but it's a surprising turn from what I liked about the first video.
Which is funny, since I'm basically arguing for the idea of a golden age of Simpsons videos. It's not funny enough to feel differently about it, but still.
The trouble with 'kidney trouble' (and what makes it unwatchable for me) is 1. we've literally seen abe pee himself in the car before, what happens here is fairly ridiculous & unrealistic. 2. Homer is the Direct cause of grandpa's illness; him running away from helping him is actually less bad than him causing it on purpose in the first place. So he had a revelation that his dad was good to him sometimes.... ok, how about have that revelation earlier when he just had a simple need to fulfill.
Being a good guy only when it's a life or death situation is Peak jerkass. This could have been a commentary on why homer doesn't want to be nice to his dad in small ways ... but it wasn't, it felt like a bit of a weird mess tbh. I think if grandpa just got ill and needed help, it would have been a nice character development moment for homer. The fact that homer caused the illness just makes him look selfish & terrible.
!!! Finally someone who gets it! All his fault and I think lowly of the writers since then, because they obviously have no soul or conscience.
@@peggysue1725One episode in a long running series that had bad characterization is enough for you to go all MysteriousMrEnter and verbally assault writers, god thats sad.
@@AnAverageGoblin Take it easy, I wasn't too serious ;) It's not like a life or death situation for me, and I hope it isn't for anyone else either. Although I get why my wording might've made you slightly upset, I tend to be a bit over the top. Anyway, I do hope you're having a good day. No offence meant or taken :)
@@peggysue1725 Nah you're all good.
37:37 Marge, who is that rotting lettuce?
I honestly don’t think the two depictions of Abe are mutually contradictory, as you say grey areas exist, for every moment Abe was emotionally abusive there could have been a more tender moments, Homer just fixates more on the negative experiences but the positive ones could easily exist
I always thought around 17 marked the decline. Or rather, the moment they swapped intro somewhere in s20. That was the most apparent decline.
14:33 It's complicated. Homer loves Abe and resents him at the same time. Abe being a terrible father doesn't mean they haven't had good times together. He didn't cut Abe completely out of his life. I always saw their relationship that way. Homer never completely hated him. In the Poison Blowfish episode, Homer wanted to spend his last day with Abe.
35:29 Also Electric solider Porygon WAS NOT PORYGON'S FAULT! THE SEIZURES WERE CAUSED BY PIKACHU'S THUNDERBOLT! #justiceforporygon.
I could have watched a movie but I watched this entire video instead. Well done
i am brazilian, that episode was spot on
"People just agree with stuff on the internet ..." Uh, are you looking at a different internet than me?
Classic TV
I've always found the best Simpsons episodes to be the ones more grounded in reality.
Your Trilogy of Errors summary is one of the only errors in this video.
Great video
And yes, Homer was a dick in some of the earlier episodes, but he had genuine remorse for what he did and always worked to make it right. New age Homer is what I'd call a sociopath. First time it became really apparent to me was Angry Dad where homer gets green paint on him and he starts randomly smashing shit up for no good reason. Although I genuinely laughed when Lenny was like "Look, it's the incredible Hulk!"
I think that’s the key difference, you see it in Lisa’s Substitute as well. And the behaviour felt like a product of his stupidity, he was just being callous or inconsiderate rather than actively cruel. The conflict would be resolved when he actually stopped to think about someone else’s feelings, and when he did that he absolutely did care.
I only really liked the first couple of seasons, it's been decades since l even saw a new episode..but l agree, the constant repeats ruin shows just as much as bad writing.
In my mind, Behind The Laughter IS the series finale of the original Simpsons. The fact that it aired May 2000 woud've made The Simpsons a quintessential 90s show
11:38 because everyone knows that The Loch Ness Monster is real., Duh!
It's funny how you don't want to throw insults and critique to the showrunners but you are perfectly fine with laughing at Chibnall and ignoring the stress of covid and other stuff that was happening at the time. 😊
Sorry but "thing, but british" is actually funny, that's why it became a meme
I've never seen a single episode but I'm watching because you're one of my fave yew-toobers? 😏
It's really sobering to see The Simpsons poke fun at the show running out of ideas and becoming stale twenty goddamn years ago. Really think about that for a moment, they've been running out of ideas for TWO DECADES now. It's a miracle this show is still capable of being even semi-coherent.
At times they’ll trend on twitter just for the simple fact of a new episode airing, anything else they can offer is probably stale
That's why one of the funniest things to come out of the Simpsons in those last 20 years was Don Hertzfeld's guest opening to it, where it shows a Simpsons literally doing that, becoming an incoherent mess of its former self to surreal exaggerated levels: th-cam.com/video/m78gYyTrG7Y/w-d-xo.html
@@neilworms2i remember discovering his work and then hearing about the simpsons opening he did. so surreal indeed
Let's make simple math:
30 seasons around 20 episodes each. Each episode is 20 minutes long.
That's 200 hours
King of the hill at 5 Simpsons 6 and Malcom in the middle at 7 and then at 11 pm Simpsons again
My brothers and I noticed a strange phenomenon around this era. If we thought of a Simpsons quote during the day, that would be the episode that played on Sky that night. Eventually we realised it was just because we were thinking of Simpsons quotes all day, every day.
Haha. That happened to me with the frogurt episode. In my defence, it wasn’t even Halloween when it played.
"Basically the power structures of our capitalist system can be understood through the relationship between Comic Book Guy and Agnes Skinner." I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that.
In your slight defense of Jerkass Homer and analysis of The Simpsons Movie, I will say it feels like Homer’s arc in that movie was a response to Jerkass Homer. In the Golden Age, there would be consequences for Homer’s actions that would run for the ENTIRE episode, and he would try his best to fix them (this shows that he has a heart and why Marge doesn’t just leave him), which is not how it goes post-Golden Age; he would do anything selfish and/or cartoonishly stupid and there’d be NO consequences, except on rare occasions and even then they’d get resolved so quickly. The Simpsons Movie has Homer act this way for the whole movie to the point where it affects his relationships with Marge and his kids and so they leave him, in other words showing that there are MAJOR consequences like in the Golden Age, which leads to Homer realizing how selfish he always was and, again just like in the Golden Age, leads to him trying to fix all of his mistakes and redeem himself in the eyes of Springfield and his family.
2:48 my local station would start at season 1 and play the reruns in order until they got within a season or two of the current one. Then they would start back over at season one. They did this for several years. I loved it.
TheRealJims does a good job at giving post-golden age a fair shake and analysis of the series.
seriously the best Simpsons channel for the sole fact that it doesn't feel like he's a simpsons shill with a semi-cringe OC in the show's style
"This is the history of just stamp the Ticket man"
Alright... Everyone loves season 27, well maybe not everyone, some people love it, and others just tolerate it.
But it's a season of television of distinct blandness
You can have an abusive parent be right to escape them, but also feel guilt. And yes, your mind can plague you with the times they were good (or, your brain is just telling you that). I'm in my forties and have that, when I cut that **** loose over twenty years ago!
The Abe stuff really stings for me because he's one of my favourite characters because of the depth he had early on. He's a sweet, lonely old man who loves his family, but he was also an abusive bastard in his younger years, and it makes the relationship hard to square for homer. It's great stuff
You sound sound so exhausted about how much Simpsons you have to watch, but here I am, rewatching the entirety of the Simpsons over and over again for years. I've probably watched this show all the way through more than anyone else.
A fun (or not so fun) fact is that, in Spain, we consider the Golden Age to finish right with Behind the Laughter. It was the last episode with the original VA for Homer, Carlos Revilla (also former director of the European Spanish dub IIRC), as he died before dubbing the next season. It's not that current Homer (Carlos Ysbert) doesn't do a great job, and his voice isn't too different, but losing Homer's original voice AND a VA legend was too strong of a hit.
Also, yes. The last sentence with Revilla's voice is "It's the last season", which makes this a very well-known fact.
On the subject of repeating the same episodes all the time, the Funzo and Gary Coleman Xmas episode got played so often on Australian telly that I was able to tell when that episode was on by the couch gag at the start.
I remember those days watching it on channel ten then neighbours would play afterwords I would rage cause I use to hate that show
Since the influence of South Park and Seth Macfarlane’s show were mentioned, I think FUTURAMA should also be mentioned. The point at which many people say The Simpsons started declining was almost the same time that Matt Groening debuted his new series. Futurama is a show where no “Treehouse of Horror”-style episode structure is needed as an excuse to do wacky, fun, out of this world gags because anything could be canon to that mainline universe. I always felt like Groening had so much fun with Futurama’s style that it ended up influencing how crazy and meta an “average” episode of The Simpsons could get, like with the Jockey’s, the Loch Ness Monster, the Allen Wrench alien, etc.
"it's not the show that changed, we just got tired of it"
That's definitely wrong when we can agree on which episodes are good or not. There's obviously a change
I watched a bit of an episode a year or two ago. The jokes were not bad. But they could have been written 20 years ago. The exact same kid of safe, coyly poking fun at authority and then sticking it's hand out for praise for the millionth time.
It's like the phantom season 9 theory, where if you cut out the bad episodes of season 9, 10 and 11 you have one really good season 9.
People have done the same with later seasons as well, it's just the fact that around season 17, the number of phantoms seasons start to dwindle immensely.
And that kind of contradicts what he said at the start, that it can’t just be people getting tired of the show because we still obsessively rewatch the early seasons
Both things can be true
@@OrgaNik_Music Sure, but he’s saying that only one of them is true
Remember that promo back in 1992 where Bart and Homer were talking about the end of the Cosby show, saying that if they had a TV show, they'd "run that sucker into the ground" ?
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"Is the joke just Thing British?" YES. I don't know why but Americans go absolutely nuts for Thing British jokes. They weep with laughter at just normal sentences said in the UK so it doesn't surprise me The Simpsons did it
No, not true. Americans do not go nuts for them. Don't associate the behavior of the writers with the behavior of the audience.
No, Americans don't. We don't really care about your country as you think we do
@@Solid_HankOmg you're so obsessed
@@Solid_Hank Thank you for speaking on behalf of all Americans. next time I see a Thing British meme I'll think of you
Hey now, Austin Powers was hilarious, and that whole thing was built on "thing British "
In regards to the Kidney Trouble episode and the disconnect between previous portrayals of Abe’s parenting, is it not possible that Homer has only ever been focusing on the negative aspects of how he was brought up allowing them to build and reinforce his worst personality traits because that’s what people just tend to do? But, when faced with the prospect of his father’s death, reflects more on the times where Abe did show love and concern for his son, which were probably difficult to show as a struggling single father?
Not that I think this is an aspect the episode was trying to get across, as I agree it treats the flashback like Abe has always been this way while never addressing how he’s been portrayed as a parent thus far. But it is an aspect that I think could explain why we have never seen this side of Abe before as Homer has never had a need to focus on it, but he has had a need to focus on the bad moments in his upbringing across the prior 9 seasons.
How are you in every comment section I see, and always making really insightful comments lol
@@cyrus2395 Luck I guess? 😅
I am here five days later rewatching this video. Also I think your section on Ned Flanders 55:50 just helped me realize something about myself. This is a lot.
I've been looking forward to part 2 of your Simpsons analysis. I've been enjoying these videos. Rewatched Part 1 and the Futurama video a few days ago🤣.
The Rolling Stones fantasy camp episode is a good celebrity guest star episode because it makes use of Mick and Keith as a pair and also has other rock icons like the late Tom Petty, Elvis Costello, and Lenny Kravitz. And also oh yeah when Rodney Dangerfield was on as a guest, he was sort of playing a version of his character from Caddyshack but he isn't because he is the son of Mr Burns (he was designed to have Burns's features). And Andrea Martin played Apu's mother. In the case of Sideshow Bob, it's a celebrity voiced character that went from 'guest' character to being a recurring character. And yes I didn't know it was a Prisoner parody (because I don't remember the koala at the end being part of the actual show, just thought it was a 'koalas are creepy' gag like at the end of Bart VS Australia). Marisa Tomei playing one of Ned Flander's many love interests is another good one. R.Lee Ermey didn't voice himself or a parody of his character from Full Metal Jacket in the episode he was in. Dan Aykroyd wasn't playing himself, he was Comic Book Guy's father.
this is one of the best simpsons videos I've ever seen.
I haven't finished watching this video yet, so please bare that in mind... but I've got to say so far this is the most pinpoint accurate, relatable video I've seen in terms of growing up as a UK Simpsons fan. I felt seen when you were talking about taping them off the television and that's why certain episodes would feel tedious. Also, your stuff on Homer and Grandpa is a brilliant take I've never really thought of in that way. Great stuff! Hope the rest is as interesting.
Just wait. I've buried some more obviously controversial stuff deep in the video 😜
Regarding South Park, I'd argue that it and The Simpsons have different demographic targets. South Park is the show for teens and young adults, whereas The Simpsons is more for parents. There's some crossover between the groups, but the appeal of the shows are different because they have different goals in mind
It's funny you say the Simpsons Movie is overall considered good, cause I've seen a lot of places that hate the movie for the overall same reasons as the "bad seasons" in this video.
Honestly my biggest gripe wit the movie is, as admitted by the creators, they were basically required to go into making the movie for audiences that either never watched the Simpsons or maybe just watched the first season or two. It's why the villain is a made-up guy instead of Burns or Sideshow Bob or Hank Scorpio. And it bugs me cause when I heard that, it really made me question who they expected to watch this movie the most. They really expected people who either never cared about the show before or fell off super early would want to come back in such a massive number?
Hank Scorpio was intended to be the bad guy originally in the early drafts, but they couldn’t make him work in the script, so they made a up a new character to be the bad guy instead. Both characters are voiced by Albert Brooks.
I don't remember people thinking the movie was good. I remember the reception being "it's slightly better than most of the episodes that were airing at the time."
The house is sinking = MARGE GETS A JOB. Homer becomes a chauffeur to pay back Patty and Selma after he lost money investing in pumpkins.
Really interesting video, i do think this era has loads of interesting episodes and ideas (but I think the same age as you means we saw these as kids). I was watching tons of the show over COVID and once i hit season 17/18 it became a nightmare to keep going. Somewhere up to season 23ish now and feel like it's picking up again. Great video as always!
I think we give the Loch Ness monster episode a pass due to a few things. A lot of people do genuinely believe the monster exists, or at least did exist. What happens to the monster is reminiscent of King Kong, so people's minds already have something familiar to latch on to so it doesn't immediately leap out as being so outlandish. Lastly, finding Nessie was a focus for the majority of the episode and the aburdity was built up. The Jockie reveal was a sudden drastic heelturn in what was otherwise a pretty normal episode at that point.
I’m glad mad mad marge getting some love here marge saying don’t mess with me I got jimmys is one of my favourite jokes from the show
"Maybe I am insane. I mean I am talking to myself"
"you are? Aww I thought I made a friend"