I feel like this answer is on the right track but it still ultimately points a person back to their works. After all, he says that if you're doing X sin every day, then you must be among the unrighteous. But an alcoholic might drink to excess everyday. It would be his besetting sin. If that man has trusted in Christ for God's forgiveness and for eternal life the man will be saved. He may not have a lot of rewards in heaven, but he will be saved.
@@ephesians_2_8 Yes, and I have noticed that people quote 1 Cor. 6:9-10 far more than they quote Gal. 5:19-21. I think that's because the Galatians passage hits far more close to home for most people. Sure, you may not be an adulterer, but do you ever envy? Are you ever jealous? Do you ever have a fit of anger or cause dissension and strife?
Thanks Bob. Many times we think, if we are no longer under Law than why is sin even being addressed at all. We need to keep in mind that while we are saved people and forever in Christ, with sin having no more power over our spirit anymore, that we as believers were still saved and set apart for good works! Not saved by them. But instead saved so that we can now live for God! We all stumble in many ways, but we must keep this in mind! While our spirit may not be in jeopardy because of sin, there are a million earthly reasons to not sin! For one it can destroy our life and create lots of problems here on earth. It can also destroy our credibility as an ambassador for Christ! So we should strive to live apart from sin and pray for the spirit to strengthen us all in our earthly walk. We want to be ready and capable for every work of God! Of course always keeping in mind that if we stumble, Christ is our advocate by his works!
... why do I let myself believe the Father of Lies, ---that I'm still a caterpiller ( 12:36 )... ---thanks for presenting THE TRUTH ... thanks be to God that in Christ I am a butterfly, and thanks to you I can Hear it. Believe it ... and it's time now to LIVE IT
Here is the gospel of GRACE you all need....... 1 Corinthians 15 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
This doesn't make sense. In first john 1:9 we are given the rebound technique. As Christians we sin and become unrighteous. So we need to confess the Sin(confession alone to God alone). Then he is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The kingdom of God is either referring to living the spiritual life here on earth, or, eternal rewards. Thoughts anyone?
John in the 1st chapter isn’t talking about believers. He is addressing the gnostics who infiltrated the church. Notice which sins he talks about in chapter 1, believing sin does not exist, believing Jesus did not come in the flesh. These were gnostic beliefs. They all deny the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. The word confession means to say the same thing as God. No where in the NT is a believer ever identified as being unrighteous. Chapter 1 addresses the false beliefs of the gnostics in hopes they will say the same things as God aka repent and be saved. Chapter 2 is encouraging believers who have sinned they are forgiven and Jesus is their defense attorney.
This is such a common way to interpret these types of verses these days. The 1 Cor warning is certainly a warning of exactly what it says: having no inheritance. Does that mean no eternal life? I'm not sure yet. But I am sure of this, without danger, the warning is pointless. Yes, Paul says YOU have been cleansed of these things, but if someone had not, he easily could have written "some of you have yet to be cleansed". The Eph 5 verses are similar. If it didn't apply to the believers, there would be no need to say it. Of course unbelievers have no inheritance. There is no need to clarify that at all or list any specific sins. He's saying "listen, don't be fooled, these things invite God's wrath so be rid of them or risk your inheritance". Jesus says we can deny him with our mouth and he will deny us. Titus 1:16 says that we can deny Jesus by our lifestyle. Hebrews 12 or 13 says to keep pursuing holiness without which NO ONE will see the Lord. The New Testament talks about holiness seemingly both as attained and as "being made holy". Both could be true as holiness basically means "set apart to God" (which we are upon redemption), but at the same time, we are being sanctified IF we continue trusting and seeking godliness. The key term to pay attention to is "in Christ" or "In union with Christ". It is all over the NT. Only those who die "in christ" are raised (1 Thes 4). Therefore, there is no condemnation to those who are "in christ" (Rom 8). John 15 and 1 John clearly teach that only those "in union with Christ" have eternal life. 1 John also shows how you know if you remain in Christ. There would be no need at all to remain if you could not disconnect by failing to continue trusting. Colossians 1, too, is a clear section that perseverance in trust/faith is a requirement. We must REMAIN in Christ to gain eternal life. Jesus DIED to free us from sin so don't live in it any longer, but always continue to trust in Jesus for your salvation. This faith is "the foundation" in 1 Cor 3:11 upon which someone can lose all of their reward, but still enter heaven. This grace as a gift due to faith is what puts us in union with Jesus. Rom 11:22 "be cut off" is an elaboration of Paul's own heart's desire from ch9 to be cut off "accursed from God" if Israel could recognize Jesus for who he is. We must maintain a proper posture before God and his grace will cover us. A repentant heart God will not despise (have mercy on me, a sinner), but a callous, unbelieving heart is in danger of God's wrath, make no mistake.
The concern I have, is that the first verse seems to be taken from a section addressing believers specifically. And therefore, it wouldn't go to support universalism, assuming that's the idea.
The concern to me is that, for eg, Galatians 5:19-21 speaks of things that some Christians do pretty frequently (eg drunkenness). They may not do those things quite as often as when they were unbelievers, but certain things are still done considerably more often than just a once in a great while stumble. Yet, these very people profess Jesus concretely and, at least to varying degrees, do seem to exhibit at least some evidence of the fruit of the Spirit. That makes it difficult for me to determine their salvation if taking the verses like this literally
there's only one thing that can determine anyone's salvation its not changed life its not obedience its not endurance, its this one thing, do they believe in the death burial and resurrection of Christ Jesus for the remission of sin!! if the answer is yes, then they are just as saved and Righthouse as Christ himself!! even if they are a bank robing ax murderer, like paul he was on his way to arrest and kill more early jew converts to Christ its not about us and our ability to refrain from sinful behaviors its our part to have faith in Christ and what he did , his righteousness counted or imparted or imputed to us by faith! not our own righteousness. so I would say this just like the Corinthians if they are doing these things that means they are shitty saved people who probably need a letter from Paul lol but saved people non the less!! Titus3:5 He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Philippians 3:9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith. Romans1:17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him… Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Romans 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. John3:15-17 everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.… John6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. colossians1:20 and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross. psalm103:10 He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities. psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. 2 corrin 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
@@terierichards1366 Yes indeed. Now I say this out of concern. That word sealed means "marked, identified, sealed (like the seal of a king)" as Eph 4:30 clarifies. It does not say that that mark cannot be removed. How terrible would it be for someone to stand before God thinking they are going to enter heaven and then be rejected because they did not continue in trust in the way required? Please hear me out. These are not incoherent messages. All you said is still true. We are saved by grace through faith IF we continue firmly trusting as we did in the beginning. It's stated several places. We are saved by faith and we can be rejected for unbelief even if we did trust for a while. The key phrase to understand is "in Christ" or "In union with Christ". Those who die "in Christ" are raised to life (1 Thes 4). There is no condemnation to those who are "in christ" (Rom 8) John 15 Jesus said to remain in him (in union with him whereby all the blessings and promises come to us) and that those who don't dry up and are thrown in the fire. Col 1:27 says "the Messiah is united with you people. In THAT rests your hope of glory." But 1 John also warns to REMAIN in union with Jesus. So clearly if we have life because we are in union and we can fall OUT of union, then we can lose our connection to eternal life, too. Rev 2:10 "IF you remain faithful even when facing death, I will give you the crown of life. Also, 1 Cor 15:1-2, Heb 3:6, Col 1:22-23 and Rom 11:22. I fear that this "can't lose salvation" message is the ear-tickling message warned about. People don't like the idea that eternal life is not a "just pray and you're in forever" message. From what I read it sounds like the Christian lifestyle is meant to be very busy and productive in love and good deeds (not to be saved, but as a result of being changed by genuine trust). A lack can at least threaten rewards and at worst be a sign of unbelief and being unredeemed or having denied Jesus by lifestyle (I'm still studying on this).
Except if you think you can DO those things and still be saved, like this man falsely teaches, regardless of the clear and dire warnings the apostle Paul gives believers, NOT to be deceived about this. They cannot continue to live as they did in the past as a lifestyle, as Paul states, and such WERE (past tense), NOT ARE, some of you in I Cor 6:11. If a believer has fallen back into those lifestyles as Paul has warned will keep them from inheriting the Kingdom of God, they are lost all over again, unless they repent, all over again. Sanctification is a lifelong process, and so is being a Christian, it isn't merely saying the sinners prayer, then continue to do the very same things one said they repented from.
you have a few errors in your understanding..! first repent or repentance, means a change of mind, whatever word is after repent is what your changing your mind about, no where does it say ""repent OF YOUR SINS! WELL MEANING BUT CONFUSED CHRISTIANS ADD THE WORDS ''OF YOUR SINS'' TO FIT THERE PRE SUPOSED IDEAS, !! so in mark where it says repent and believe the gospel, what its saying is change your mind about what christ has done for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nothing to do with sin or behavior! Titus3:5 He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Philippians 3:9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith. Romans1:17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him… Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Romans 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. John3:15-17 everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.… John6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. colossians1:20 and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross. psalm103:10 He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities. psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. 2 corrin 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
@@wolfwatchers You seem to not even grasp the concept of what actual repentance is, it is NOT a "state of mind", as you suggest, that's quite ridiculous if that state of mind doesn't involve actual departure from whatever it is someone is repenting of. Proverbs 28:13 13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. 2 Chronicles 7:14 - If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. Repentance is to turn away from whatever it is someone is repenting, not continuing to do it. Revelation 2:5 - Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. There is no repentance if one continues to DO, that which they said they repented FROM. That's why Paul states in I Cor 6:9-11, BE NOT DECEIVED about these sinful lifestyles they just left, that if they RETURN to them, they shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Faith without departure from sin will not save them is exactly what Paul states throughout all his epistles. A homosexual must depart from homosexuality, the drunkard departs from the bottle, the thief stops stealing, etc. all listed in I Cor 6:10. Paul states the same in Gal 5:16-26, that to fulfil the lusts of their flesh, instead of following the Spirit and producing fruit, they shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. There's no getting around, one must depart from sin, no matter how many excuses, or cherry picked verses taken out of context you list. I was once OSAS myself, and I know all the verses, and how they are taken out of context and twisted to somehow attempt to justify continuing to live immorally, and there is no such license to sin false doctrine in the entire Bible, let alone the New Testament to which we all fall under today for salvation.
@@johnrambo9104 again even if its turning from, its context is believing in the gospel so your turning from whatever your faith or belief was in before you ''repented'' turned / changed your mind and put it in Christ ! what does it mean to be JUSTIFIED BY FAITH?? what does it mean to be imputed the righteousness of Christ by faith?? not our own righteousness!! non of salvation is about behavior,, changing your behavior is only even possible after you receive the holy spirit, not before you get saved!! or in order to get or maintain salvation!!! Titus3:5 He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Philippians 3:9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith. Romans1:17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him… Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus Romans 8:39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. John3:15-17 everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.… John6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. colossians1:20 and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross. psalm103:10 He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities. psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. 2 corrin 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation. Romans 5:18-20 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
@@johnrambo9104 Matt 21:31 “Which of the two obeyed his father?” They replied, “The first.” Then Jesus explained his meaning: “I tell you the truth, corrupt tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the Kingdom of God before you do. Titus3:5 He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Philippians 3:9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith. Romans1:17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.” Romans 4:5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:6 And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
@@wolfwatchers None of the verses you selected say you can continue to sin that "grace may abound", on the contrary, you're looking for excuses to attempt to continue to sin. The entire book of Romans is Paul telling them to TURN from sin. Romans 6:1, 26 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rather than waste your time citing all the verses that you think mean you only need to believe, and not stop willfully sinning, which is what repentance actually is, a change of mind that causes the person to CHANGE externally as well, especially towards sin, because now they know what is sin, because Paul gives them careful instructions on what is required of them. At no time does Paul ever say that they may continue to live in willful, unrepentant sin, and still inherit the Kingdom of God. Refute that I Corinthians 6:9-11 doesn't mean exactly what it states, that some of them WERE (past tense verse 11) living the lifestyles he mentions in verse 10, Paul didn't say, and such ARE (present tense, still living those same sinful lifestyles he just listed) some of you, because he clearly tells them to BE NOT DECEIVED about these sinful lifestyles, that if THEY DO THEM, and LIVE IN THEM without repentance, they shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. He states the same to the Galatians 5:16-26. Anyone who states they can willfully sin without repentance after they claimed they are saved is willfully being deceived and is lying to themselves. BE NOT DECEIVED Paul warned, and it appears many will choose to be deceived, believing in false "grace" teachers that teach license to sin theology. Faith, requires obedience as well, they are not separated from one another. James, Jesus own brother, asks a rhetorical question: James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? The answer is clearly, NO, from what the rest of James wrote in his epistle, and in all of Paul's as well. Faith without repentance, that is to turn away from sin and depart from it, is not true repentance, it is lip service. I encourage you to watch this TH-cam debate on OSAS versus the true gospel of repentance unto salvation. The OSAS adherent gets comfortably destroyed, and in no way wins based upon the clear, correct interpretation of the scriptures. th-cam.com/video/MwtxuKqPFhw/w-d-xo.html
Only 2.5% of the world population will make it in according to NDE Near Death Experience Testimonies and this correlates with, wide is the gate and many will find it. There are many people who called themselves Christians are burning in hell for the sins that God forbids, for example, holding an offence will send one to Hell in resect of all the good you do in this life - I think many underestimate Gods expectations.
The OSAS, or Once Saved Always Saved, adherent, exactly resembles what Jeremiah was referring to regarding Israel. Jeremiah 7:8-11 8 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. 9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not; 10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations? 11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord. According to the OSAS false gospel adherent, that's exactly what they do, trust in lying words, twisting the scriptures, particularly Paul's own words, unto their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:13-17 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
If you, GOD, kept records on wrongdoings, who would stand a chance? As it turns out, forgiveness is your habit, and that's why you're worshiped. The OLD TESTAMENT KINGDOM AGE is the old wine skins works/law that were hidden in foreshadowed glimmers of GRACE clearly covered in Paul's' Gospel. Works/Faith come back in the 70th week by not worshiping, taking the mark of the Anti Christ, being killed, and lasting in the tribulation, leaving our Age of GRACE dispensation SALVATION by BELIEVING! God is making an absolute statement over and over in many ways trust in my Son the narrow gate, ( Instead of PRIDE in our ability/other ways ) sin destroys avoid it by HIS HS power or suffer in this life even death and shame before HIM in the next but not HELL. Confessing sin cleans house and refreshes our relationship with HIM but 1 Cor 3 12-20... will suffer loss but escape! You really want to argue that Adam's damning 100% of mankind fall is more powerful than the Blood of the God Man's act of redemption on the cross and incomplete unless we add in our works? NEVER !!!!! Christians daily must choose to walk in the Spirit or flesh we do what we don't want to. Walking in the Spirit can only be done by in dwelled HS Born Again sealed...who can't be taken from God's hand. We put on HIS Righteousness as a garment as a free gift def, a thing given willingly to someone without payment; a present, b/c we have no righteousness of our own to offer so you show your rags and say what?? Even David, who is certainly in Heaven, says," O God my sins are ever before me," not justifying sin at all. HE gives us power to resist and mature, as we all run the race and end up at different levels of finishing. Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no guile. Jesus is that cover that redemption. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is NOT from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 5 NOT by works of righteousness which WE have done, but according to his mercy HE saved us, ( Where is your saving personal execution of Godliness ? HE justifies the UNGODLY by FAITH, it kills your rabbit hole logic not us HIM. HE looks at our hearts, yes, that covers your loop holes ) by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly [1] through Jesus Christ our Saviour; Therefore by works of the Law, not any flesh will be justified before Him; for through the Law is knowledge of sin. And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith. Otherwise please tell me the line I can't cross and how long do I have to go without repeating my difficult besetting sins ? It's very important to grow in grace and the knowledge of HIM to have the abundant life which sins destroy while pursuing HIS KINGDOM because we are a new creation bringing in HIS Righteous rule that is the only legitimate way to joy unspeakable perfection forever. Bible saying it both ways, Salvation is a GIFT, our efforts are fitly rages we think we do little sins when in God's sight PERFECTION is the standard we aren't even close! HOLY HOLY HOLY.Tell a judge you've changed your mind because that house you gifted to your son you want it back. GOD never breaks his promises incorruptible seed ! Jesus will say to many, I NEVER knew you. Because you were never born again, you didn't follow the GOSPEL.( HE didn't say yep, you were doing good but that weed finally undid you... NEVER knew you! ) But I did this and that in your name to show my efforts and cleaned up life, my part in redemption.We are not faithful HE is... b/c NOT following the Fathers command giving credit to our filthy rags before the Father instead of the flawless lamb .1 John 3:23 And this is HIS( FATHER'S) COMMANDMENT: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. You should have said, "YOU saved me by your SHED Blood for my sins! " It's NOT Jesus plus our works based, like ALL false religions!!!! It's HIM alone ! Passover and the bronze snake foreshadow had nothing to do with not sinning but covering atonement faith, that avoided DEATH, MUCH MORE the shed BLOOD of the LAMB escaping judgement of the second death, as a GIFT by FAITH, otherwise sinless, required. “Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might WORK the WORKS of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that YOU BELIEVE on HIM whom he hath sent.”. GOD honers HIS WORD can you diminish this clear pronouncement of being in HIM by taking Communion sincerely!!! JESUS, all who trust HIM will never be disappointed over and over it screams a knowing SALVATION! Even to them that believe in HIS Name...well not really, maybe one in a million, God's way NOT! 4 WHOSO EATETH my FLESH, and DRINKETH my blood, HATH eternal life; and I WILL raise him up at the last day. ( COMPLETE UNDERSTANDABLE REQUIREMENT CONTRACT ) 55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, DWELLETH in ME, and I in HIM. 57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he SHALL LIVE by me. 58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this BREAD SHALL LIVE FOREVER! My stretch... I'm still seeking HIS truth, me thinks HE'S so loving, forgiving, and merciful yet HOLY eager not any should perish follows the simplicity just looking at the bronze serpent saved (The CROSS WAY MORE SIGNIFICANT)....any that sincerely called on HIM like, CREATOR GOD, of all the universe help me, qualifying folk everywhere in frustration of this fallen world's many flaws b/c of sin crying out logically will be saved!
@@djj39809 I'll just copy and paste my reply to another, that completely destroys the false doctrine of OSAS. Facts of I Corinthians 6:9-11. 1. Paul is addressing believers in Corinth, yes or no? The answer is an obvious YES. 2. Paul tells these BELIEVERS, to BE NOT DECEIVED about their former sinful lifestyles, and then he lists them in verse 10, yes or no? YES, Paul is addressing believers, telling them to BE NOT DECEIVED about these sinful lifestyles they've departed from. 3. Paul states some of them WERE (past tense) living the sinful lifestyles he mentions in I Cor 6:10, but not ARE (present tense) living those lifestyles, yes or no? The answer is an obvious YES, they had properly repented, that is turned AWAY from those sinful lifestyles, and were no longer living that way. How do I know? Because Paul found out there was a man who was committing such fornication with his father's wife at Corinth, such fornication that was even unheard of for UNBELIEVERS to be doing, and he instructed them to TOSS THE MAN out, and submit him unto Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so his spirit MAY BE SAVED (that's a MAYBE), which is conditional upon his repentance and return to right living. Paul didn't say, OH, he's ok, he's just a "BACKSLIDEN" Christian! James 5:19, 20 States it is other believers responsibility to bring up other believers sinful behavior if they are in error, and if they repent, he's restored to righteousness, if he doesn't, he's chosen to willfully live in known, totally avoidable, sin. Titus 3:10, 11 states the same, and is clear that those who REFUSE to repent of heresy (someone opposed to Paul's gospel). We're all going to be judged by what Paul states, not by what an OSAS false gospel adherent teaches (Rom 2:16). 4: Paul tells these believers that they will not inherit the Kingdom of God if they go back to those sinful lifestyles he mentions in I Cor 6:10? Yes or no? The answer is an obvious YES, that's exactly what Paul is telling them. 5. Based upon what Paul just taught them in I Cor 6:9-11, is Once Saved Always Saved upheld, or refuted? It is SOUNDLY REFUTED! They cannot continue to sin, so that "grace" may abound. They must remain HOLY, PURE, through continued repentance, and sanctification through God's word, at that time, Paul's epistles. So it's clear as day, for anyone not trying to find an excuse to continue to sin, Paul gives no such allowance. On the contrary, the believers friend is I John 1:9. A Christian won't be sinless, but they should most definitely SIN LESS, according to all of the instructions by the Apostles, particularly Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, us.
If you ask a question about these passages because you want to know if you're still saved when you're addicted to porn, I think you should be more concerned with quitting porn altogether.
Colossians 1:13-14 - [13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: [14] In whom we have redemption *through his blood* , even the forgiveness of sins: From the k j bible. Brother, what corrupt bible are you reading from? Your bible does not say *through His blood* . It’s all about the precious blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses us from all our sins. These corrupted bibles are removing *the blood* of Jesus Christ. God bless you.
Heresy. Do a quick word study on the difference between inherit and enter. You're ignorant of the truth. Sons CAN"T lose sonship. Rewards that are inherited can be lost, but not the saved sinner.
If a Christian walks in the flesh and not in the spirit they can look just like an unbeliever, this "practice sin" crap is nonsense. You act like I Corinthians doesn't exist
Free Grace Free Choice Free Eternal Life Praise Jesus
Is false teaching, and false hope.
@johnrambo9104
What do you think is the way and the gospel?
I pray for truth!!! 🕊
@johnrambo9104
What do you think is the way and the gospel?
I pray for truth!!! 🕊
@@taniadenise5145 believe in Jesus christ and his finished work on the cross and his ressurection.
Clear and accurate teaching, which I appreciate.
I feel like this answer is on the right track but it still ultimately points a person back to their works. After all, he says that if you're doing X sin every day, then you must be among the unrighteous. But an alcoholic might drink to excess everyday. It would be his besetting sin. If that man has trusted in Christ for God's forgiveness and for eternal life the man will be saved. He may not have a lot of rewards in heaven, but he will be saved.
@@ephesians_2_8 Yes, and I have noticed that people quote 1 Cor. 6:9-10 far more than they quote Gal. 5:19-21. I think that's because the Galatians passage hits far more close to home for most people. Sure, you may not be an adulterer, but do you ever envy? Are you ever jealous? Do you ever have a fit of anger or cause dissension and strife?
God calls us to be overcomers. Never give up!
Thanks Bob.
Many times we think, if we are no longer under Law than why is sin even being addressed at all. We need to keep in mind that while we are saved people and forever in Christ, with sin having no more power over our spirit anymore, that we as believers were still saved and set apart for good works! Not saved by them. But instead saved so that we can now live for God! We all stumble in many ways, but we must keep this in mind! While our spirit may not be in jeopardy because of sin, there are a million earthly reasons to not sin! For one it can destroy our life and create lots of problems here on earth. It can also destroy our credibility as an ambassador for Christ! So we should strive to live apart from sin and pray for the spirit to strengthen us all in our earthly walk. We want to be ready and capable for every work of God! Of course always keeping in mind that if we stumble, Christ is our advocate by his works!
Exactly 💯 We should strive to please God because we are saved 🙏
Our faith working through Love ☝️👍☝️🕊️💯💯
Thanks man, I feel convinced now.
... why do I let myself believe the Father of Lies, ---that I'm still a caterpiller ( 12:36 )... ---thanks for presenting THE TRUTH ... thanks be to God that in Christ I am a butterfly, and thanks to you I can Hear it. Believe it ... and it's time now to LIVE IT
Wonderful teaching, Bob. Very timely. Thank you. Bob Bruno
Thanks Bob.
This was very helpful. Thank you so much for clarifying this all up for me. I needed this.
Great message. Made it plain as day.
Thanks Brandon.
Here is the gospel of GRACE you all need.......
1 Corinthians 15
King James Version
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
AMEN GLORY TO GOD✝️
Love it. By which (the only grounds) ye are saved.
Great message
well explained
True live in the spirit so you don't fulfill the lust of the flesh
This doesn't make sense. In first john 1:9 we are given the rebound technique. As Christians we sin and become unrighteous. So we need to confess the Sin(confession alone to God alone). Then he is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The kingdom of God is either referring to living the spiritual life here on earth, or, eternal rewards. Thoughts anyone?
John in the 1st chapter isn’t talking about believers. He is addressing the gnostics who infiltrated the church. Notice which sins he talks about in chapter 1, believing sin does not exist, believing Jesus did not come in the flesh. These were gnostic beliefs. They all deny the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. The word confession means to say the same thing as God. No where in the NT is a believer ever identified as being unrighteous. Chapter 1 addresses the false beliefs of the gnostics in hopes they will say the same things as God aka repent and be saved. Chapter 2 is encouraging believers who have sinned they are forgiven and Jesus is their defense attorney.
very clear and straight to the point, thanks :)
This is such a common way to interpret these types of verses these days. The 1 Cor warning is certainly a warning of exactly what it says: having no inheritance. Does that mean no eternal life? I'm not sure yet. But I am sure of this, without danger, the warning is pointless. Yes, Paul says YOU have been cleansed of these things, but if someone had not, he easily could have written "some of you have yet to be cleansed".
The Eph 5 verses are similar. If it didn't apply to the believers, there would be no need to say it. Of course unbelievers have no inheritance. There is no need to clarify that at all or list any specific sins. He's saying "listen, don't be fooled, these things invite God's wrath so be rid of them or risk your inheritance".
Jesus says we can deny him with our mouth and he will deny us. Titus 1:16 says that we can deny Jesus by our lifestyle. Hebrews 12 or 13 says to keep pursuing holiness without which NO ONE will see the Lord. The New Testament talks about holiness seemingly both as attained and as "being made holy". Both could be true as holiness basically means "set apart to God" (which we are upon redemption), but at the same time, we are being sanctified IF we continue trusting and seeking godliness.
The key term to pay attention to is "in Christ" or "In union with Christ". It is all over the NT. Only those who die "in christ" are raised (1 Thes 4). Therefore, there is no condemnation to those who are "in christ" (Rom 8).
John 15 and 1 John clearly teach that only those "in union with Christ" have eternal life. 1 John also shows how you know if you remain in Christ. There would be no need at all to remain if you could not disconnect by failing to continue trusting. Colossians 1, too, is a clear section that perseverance in trust/faith is a requirement. We must REMAIN in Christ to gain eternal life.
Jesus DIED to free us from sin so don't live in it any longer, but always continue to trust in Jesus for your salvation. This faith is "the foundation" in 1 Cor 3:11 upon which someone can lose all of their reward, but still enter heaven. This grace as a gift due to faith is what puts us in union with Jesus. Rom 11:22 "be cut off" is an elaboration of Paul's own heart's desire from ch9 to be cut off "accursed from God" if Israel could recognize Jesus for who he is.
We must maintain a proper posture before God and his grace will cover us. A repentant heart God will not despise (have mercy on me, a sinner), but a callous, unbelieving heart is in danger of God's wrath, make no mistake.
The concern I have, is that the first verse seems to be taken from a section addressing believers specifically. And therefore, it wouldn't go to support universalism, assuming that's the idea.
1 Corinthians is addressed to believers.
The concern to me is that, for eg, Galatians 5:19-21 speaks of things that some Christians do pretty frequently (eg drunkenness). They may not do those things quite as often as when they were unbelievers, but certain things are still done considerably more often than just a once in a great while stumble.
Yet, these very people profess Jesus concretely and, at least to varying degrees, do seem to exhibit at least some evidence of the fruit of the Spirit.
That makes it difficult for me to determine their salvation if taking the verses like this literally
there's only one thing that can determine anyone's salvation its not changed life its not obedience its not endurance, its this one thing, do they believe in the death burial and resurrection of Christ Jesus for the remission of sin!! if the answer is yes, then they are just as saved and Righthouse as Christ himself!! even if they are a bank robing ax murderer, like paul he was on his way to arrest and kill more early jew converts to Christ its not about us and our ability to refrain from sinful behaviors its our part to have faith in Christ and what he did , his righteousness counted or imparted or imputed to us by faith! not our own righteousness. so I would say this just like the Corinthians if they are doing these things that means they are shitty saved people who probably need a letter from Paul lol but saved people non the less!!
Titus3:5
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Philippians 3:9
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.
Romans1:17
For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.”
Romans 4:5
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
Romans 4:6
And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him…
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans8:1
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus
Romans 8:39
nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
John3:15-17
everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.…
John6:47
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
colossians1:20
and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross.
psalm103:10
He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities.
psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
2 corrin 5:19
For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
please let me know what version of Bible do you use.I really like it but do not know what version you use
Hey Berean. Bob Christopher uses the ESV Bible. English Standard Version
What about a Christian who does those things?
After were saved we are identified with Jesus and not by our sins.
@@terierichards1366 if we remain in Christ, yes.
@@danielbu2611 we are kept by the power of God.
We re sealed with the Holy Spirit until redemption. (Eph 1:13-14 Eph 4:30)
@@terierichards1366 Yes indeed. Now I say this out of concern. That word sealed means "marked, identified, sealed (like the seal of a king)" as Eph 4:30 clarifies. It does not say that that mark cannot be removed. How terrible would it be for someone to stand before God thinking they are going to enter heaven and then be rejected because they did not continue in trust in the way required? Please hear me out. These are not incoherent messages.
All you said is still true. We are saved by grace through faith IF we continue firmly trusting as we did in the beginning. It's stated several places. We are saved by faith and we can be rejected for unbelief even if we did trust for a while. The key phrase to understand is "in Christ" or "In union with Christ". Those who die "in Christ" are raised to life (1 Thes 4). There is no condemnation to those who are "in christ" (Rom 8)
John 15 Jesus said to remain in him (in union with him whereby all the blessings and promises come to us) and that those who don't dry up and are thrown in the fire. Col 1:27 says "the Messiah is united with you people. In THAT rests your hope of glory." But 1 John also warns to REMAIN in union with Jesus. So clearly if we have life because we are in union and we can fall OUT of union, then we can lose our connection to eternal life, too.
Rev 2:10 "IF you remain faithful even when facing death, I will give you the crown of life.
Also, 1 Cor 15:1-2, Heb 3:6, Col 1:22-23 and Rom 11:22.
I fear that this "can't lose salvation" message is the ear-tickling message warned about. People don't like the idea that eternal life is not a "just pray and you're in forever" message. From what I read it sounds like the Christian lifestyle is meant to be very busy and productive in love and good deeds (not to be saved, but as a result of being changed by genuine trust). A lack can at least threaten rewards and at worst be a sign of unbelief and being unredeemed or having denied Jesus by lifestyle (I'm still studying on this).
@@danielbu2611 way too much to read. Sealed with the Holy Spirit is not the same.
Jesus preached eternal security. Read you Bible.
:) Thank you
Except if you think you can DO those things and still be saved, like this man falsely teaches, regardless of the clear and dire warnings the apostle Paul gives believers, NOT to be deceived about this. They cannot continue to live as they did in the past as a lifestyle, as Paul states, and such WERE (past tense), NOT ARE, some of you in I Cor 6:11. If a believer has fallen back into those lifestyles as Paul has warned will keep them from inheriting the Kingdom of God, they are lost all over again, unless they repent, all over again. Sanctification is a lifelong process, and so is being a Christian, it isn't merely saying the sinners prayer, then continue to do the very same things one said they repented from.
you have a few errors in your understanding..! first repent or repentance, means a change of mind, whatever word is after repent is what your changing your mind about, no where does it say ""repent OF YOUR SINS! WELL MEANING BUT CONFUSED CHRISTIANS ADD THE WORDS ''OF YOUR SINS'' TO FIT THERE PRE SUPOSED IDEAS, !! so in mark where it says repent and believe the gospel, what its saying is change your mind about what christ has done for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nothing to do with sin or behavior!
Titus3:5
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Philippians 3:9
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.
Romans1:17
For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.”
Romans 4:5
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
Romans 4:6
And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him…
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans8:1
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus
Romans 8:39
nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
John3:15-17
everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.…
John6:47
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
colossians1:20
and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross.
psalm103:10
He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities.
psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
2 corrin 5:19
For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
@@wolfwatchers You seem to not even grasp the concept of what actual repentance is, it is NOT a "state of mind", as you suggest, that's quite ridiculous if that state of mind doesn't involve actual departure from whatever it is someone is repenting of.
Proverbs 28:13
13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
2 Chronicles 7:14 - If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Repentance is to turn away from whatever it is someone is repenting, not continuing to do it.
Revelation 2:5 - Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
There is no repentance if one continues to DO, that which they said they repented FROM. That's why Paul states in I Cor 6:9-11, BE NOT DECEIVED about these sinful lifestyles they just left, that if they RETURN to them, they shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Faith without departure from sin will not save them is exactly what Paul states throughout all his epistles. A homosexual must depart from homosexuality, the drunkard departs from the bottle, the thief stops stealing, etc. all listed in I Cor 6:10. Paul states the same in Gal 5:16-26, that to fulfil the lusts of their flesh, instead of following the Spirit and producing fruit, they shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. There's no getting around, one must depart from sin, no matter how many excuses, or cherry picked verses taken out of context you list. I was once OSAS myself, and I know all the verses, and how they are taken out of context and twisted to somehow attempt to justify continuing to live immorally, and there is no such license to sin false doctrine in the entire Bible, let alone the New Testament to which we all fall under today for salvation.
@@johnrambo9104 again even if its turning from, its context is believing in the gospel so your turning from whatever your faith or belief was in before you ''repented'' turned / changed your mind and put it in Christ ! what does it mean to be JUSTIFIED BY FAITH?? what does it mean to be imputed the righteousness of Christ by faith?? not our own righteousness!! non of salvation is about behavior,, changing your behavior is only even possible after you receive the holy spirit, not before you get saved!! or in order to get or maintain salvation!!!
Titus3:5
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Philippians 3:9
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.
Romans1:17
For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.”
Romans 4:5
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
Romans 4:6
And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
Romans 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him…
Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans8:1
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus
Romans 8:39
nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
John3:15-17
everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.…
John6:47
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
colossians1:20
and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross.
psalm103:10
He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities.
psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
2 corrin 5:19
For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
Romans 5:18-20
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
@@johnrambo9104 Matt 21:31
“Which of the two obeyed his father?” They replied, “The first.” Then Jesus explained his meaning: “I tell you the truth, corrupt tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the Kingdom of God before you do.
Titus3:5
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
acts 13:39
And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Philippians 3:9
and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.
Romans1:17
For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “ The righteous will live by faith.”
Romans 4:5
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
Romans 4:6
And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
@@wolfwatchers None of the verses you selected say you can continue to sin that "grace may abound", on the contrary, you're looking for excuses to attempt to continue to sin. The entire book of Romans is Paul telling them to TURN from sin.
Romans 6:1, 26 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rather than waste your time citing all the verses that you think mean you only need to believe, and not stop willfully sinning, which is what repentance actually is, a change of mind that causes the person to CHANGE externally as well, especially towards sin, because now they know what is sin, because Paul gives them careful instructions on what is required of them. At no time does Paul ever say that they may continue to live in willful, unrepentant sin, and still inherit the Kingdom of God.
Refute that I Corinthians 6:9-11 doesn't mean exactly what it states, that some of them WERE (past tense verse 11) living the lifestyles he mentions in verse 10, Paul didn't say, and such ARE (present tense, still living those same sinful lifestyles he just listed) some of you, because he clearly tells them to BE NOT DECEIVED about these sinful lifestyles, that if THEY DO THEM, and LIVE IN THEM without repentance, they shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. He states the same to the Galatians 5:16-26. Anyone who states they can willfully sin without repentance after they claimed they are saved is willfully being deceived and is lying to themselves. BE NOT DECEIVED Paul warned, and it appears many will choose to be deceived, believing in false "grace" teachers that teach license to sin theology. Faith, requires obedience as well, they are not separated from one another.
James, Jesus own brother, asks a rhetorical question: James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
The answer is clearly, NO, from what the rest of James wrote in his epistle, and in all of Paul's as well. Faith without repentance, that is to turn away from sin and depart from it, is not true repentance, it is lip service. I encourage you to watch this TH-cam debate on OSAS versus the true gospel of repentance unto salvation. The OSAS adherent gets comfortably destroyed, and in no way wins based upon the clear, correct interpretation of the scriptures. th-cam.com/video/MwtxuKqPFhw/w-d-xo.html
Only 2.5% of the world population will make it in according to NDE Near Death Experience Testimonies and this correlates with, wide is the gate and many will find it. There are many people who called themselves Christians are burning in hell for the sins that God forbids, for example, holding an offence will send one to Hell in resect of all the good you do in this life - I think many underestimate Gods expectations.
The OSAS, or Once Saved Always Saved, adherent, exactly resembles what Jeremiah was referring to regarding Israel.
Jeremiah 7:8-11
8 Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.
9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;
10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?
11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord.
According to the OSAS false gospel adherent, that's exactly what they do, trust in lying words, twisting the scriptures, particularly Paul's own words, unto their own destruction.
2 Peter 3:13-17
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
If you, GOD, kept records on wrongdoings, who would stand a chance? As it turns out, forgiveness is your habit, and that's why you're worshiped.
The OLD TESTAMENT KINGDOM AGE is the old wine skins works/law that were hidden in foreshadowed glimmers of GRACE clearly covered in Paul's' Gospel. Works/Faith come back in the 70th week by not worshiping, taking the mark of the Anti Christ, being killed, and lasting in the tribulation, leaving our Age of GRACE dispensation SALVATION by BELIEVING!
God is making an absolute statement over and over in many ways trust in my Son the narrow gate, ( Instead of PRIDE in our ability/other ways ) sin destroys avoid it by HIS HS power or suffer in this life even death and shame before HIM in the next but not HELL. Confessing sin cleans house and refreshes our relationship with HIM but 1 Cor 3 12-20... will suffer loss but escape!
You really want to argue that Adam's damning 100% of mankind fall is more powerful than the Blood of the God Man's act of redemption on the cross and incomplete unless we add in our works? NEVER !!!!!
Christians daily must choose to walk in the Spirit or flesh we do what we don't want to. Walking in the Spirit can only be done by in dwelled HS Born Again sealed...who can't be taken from God's hand. We put on HIS Righteousness as a garment as a free gift def, a thing given willingly to someone without payment; a present, b/c we have no righteousness of our own to offer so you show your rags and say what?? Even David, who is certainly in Heaven, says," O God my sins are ever before me," not justifying sin at all. HE gives us power to resist and mature, as we all run the race and end up at different levels of finishing.
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, Whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no guile. Jesus is that cover that redemption.
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is NOT from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 5 NOT by works of righteousness which WE have done, but according to his mercy HE saved us, ( Where is your saving personal execution of Godliness ? HE justifies the UNGODLY by FAITH, it kills your rabbit hole logic not us HIM. HE looks at our hearts, yes, that covers your loop holes ) by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly [1] through Jesus Christ our Saviour; Therefore by works of the Law, not any flesh will be justified before Him; for through the Law is knowledge of sin. And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.
Otherwise please tell me the line I can't cross and how long do I have to go without repeating my difficult besetting sins ? It's very important to grow in grace and the knowledge of HIM to have the abundant life which sins destroy while pursuing HIS KINGDOM because we are a new creation bringing in HIS Righteous rule that is the only legitimate way to joy unspeakable perfection forever.
Bible saying it both ways, Salvation is a GIFT, our efforts are fitly rages we think we do little sins when in God's sight PERFECTION is the standard we aren't even close! HOLY HOLY HOLY.Tell a judge you've changed your mind because that house you gifted to your son you want it back. GOD never breaks his promises incorruptible seed !
Jesus will say to many, I NEVER knew you. Because you were never born again, you didn't follow the GOSPEL.( HE didn't say yep, you were doing good but that weed finally undid you... NEVER knew you! ) But I did this and that in your name to show my efforts and cleaned up life, my part in redemption.We are not faithful HE is... b/c NOT following the Fathers command giving credit to our filthy rags before the Father instead of the flawless lamb .1 John 3:23 And this is HIS( FATHER'S) COMMANDMENT: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. You should have said, "YOU saved me by your SHED Blood for my sins! " It's NOT Jesus plus our works based, like ALL false religions!!!! It's HIM alone ! Passover and the bronze snake foreshadow had nothing to do with not sinning but covering atonement faith, that avoided DEATH, MUCH MORE the shed BLOOD of the LAMB escaping judgement of the second death, as a GIFT by FAITH, otherwise sinless, required.
“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might WORK the WORKS of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that YOU BELIEVE on HIM whom he hath sent.”.
GOD honers HIS WORD can you diminish this clear pronouncement of being in HIM by taking Communion sincerely!!! JESUS, all who trust HIM will never be disappointed over and over it screams a knowing SALVATION! Even to them that believe in HIS Name...well not really, maybe one in a million, God's way NOT! 4 WHOSO EATETH my FLESH, and DRINKETH my blood, HATH eternal life; and I WILL raise him up at the last day. ( COMPLETE UNDERSTANDABLE REQUIREMENT CONTRACT ) 55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, DWELLETH in ME, and I in HIM. 57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he SHALL LIVE by me. 58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this BREAD SHALL LIVE FOREVER!
My stretch... I'm still seeking HIS truth, me thinks HE'S so loving, forgiving, and merciful yet HOLY eager not any should perish follows the simplicity just looking at the bronze serpent saved (The CROSS WAY MORE SIGNIFICANT)....any that sincerely called on HIM like, CREATOR GOD, of all the universe help me, qualifying folk everywhere in frustration of this fallen world's many flaws b/c of sin crying out logically will be saved!
@@djj39809 I'll just copy and paste my reply to another, that completely destroys the false doctrine of OSAS.
Facts of I Corinthians 6:9-11.
1. Paul is addressing believers in Corinth, yes or no? The answer is an obvious YES.
2. Paul tells these BELIEVERS, to BE NOT DECEIVED about their former sinful lifestyles, and then he lists them in verse 10, yes or no? YES, Paul is addressing believers, telling them to BE NOT DECEIVED about these sinful lifestyles they've departed from.
3. Paul states some of them WERE (past tense) living the sinful lifestyles he mentions in I Cor 6:10, but not ARE (present tense) living those lifestyles, yes or no? The answer is an obvious YES, they had properly repented, that is turned AWAY from those sinful lifestyles, and were no longer living that way. How do I know? Because Paul found out there was a man who was committing such fornication with his father's wife at Corinth, such fornication that was even unheard of for UNBELIEVERS to be doing, and he instructed them to TOSS THE MAN out, and submit him unto Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so his spirit MAY BE SAVED (that's a MAYBE), which is conditional upon his repentance and return to right living. Paul didn't say, OH, he's ok, he's just a "BACKSLIDEN" Christian! James 5:19, 20 States it is other believers responsibility to bring up other believers sinful behavior if they are in error, and if they repent, he's restored to righteousness, if he doesn't, he's chosen to willfully live in known, totally avoidable, sin. Titus 3:10, 11 states the same, and is clear that those who REFUSE to repent of heresy (someone opposed to Paul's gospel). We're all going to be judged by what Paul states, not by what an OSAS false gospel adherent teaches (Rom 2:16).
4: Paul tells these believers that they will not inherit the Kingdom of God if they go back to those sinful lifestyles he mentions in I Cor 6:10? Yes or no? The answer is an obvious YES, that's exactly what Paul is telling them.
5. Based upon what Paul just taught them in I Cor 6:9-11, is Once Saved Always Saved upheld, or refuted? It is SOUNDLY REFUTED! They cannot continue to sin, so that "grace" may abound. They must remain HOLY, PURE, through continued repentance, and sanctification through God's word, at that time, Paul's epistles.
So it's clear as day, for anyone not trying to find an excuse to continue to sin, Paul gives no such allowance. On the contrary, the believers friend is I John 1:9. A Christian won't be sinless, but they should most definitely SIN LESS, according to all of the instructions by the Apostles, particularly Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, us.
If you ask a question about these passages because you want to know if you're still saved when you're addicted to porn, I think you should be more concerned with quitting porn altogether.
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Colossians 1:13-14 - [13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: [14] In whom we have redemption *through his blood* , even the forgiveness of sins:
From the k j bible.
Brother, what corrupt bible are you reading from? Your bible does not say *through His blood* . It’s all about the precious blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses us from all our sins.
These corrupted bibles are removing *the blood* of Jesus Christ.
God bless you.
Heresy. Do a quick word study on the difference between inherit and enter. You're ignorant of the truth. Sons CAN"T lose sonship. Rewards that are inherited can be lost, but not the saved sinner.
Sinners won't go to heaven
If a Christian walks in the flesh and not in the spirit they can look just like an unbeliever, this "practice sin" crap is nonsense. You act like
I Corinthians doesn't exist