Heartbreak - Andrea Dworkin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 เม.ย. 2021
- Author and activist Andrea Dworkin talked about her latest book, Heartbreak: The Political Memoir of a Feminist Militant, published by Basic Books. Ms. Dworkin described her evolution from youthful devotee of music and books to campaigner against pornography and prostitution and international advocate for women. She talked about her self-imposed exile in Crete where she taught herself to write. After discovering the works of early second-wave feminists, Ms. Dworkin had vowed to “give my life to the movement.” The Radcliffe Institute’s Schlesinger Library recently acquired Ms. Dworkin’s personal papers. At the end of the program Ms. Dworkin answered questions from the audience
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'When you are looking at a woman standing at a street corner, you are looking at an incest victim'. I so wished I had heard of Andrea Dworkin when I was in my early 20s. It would really have turned my life around to know that someone understood (and believed) what had happened to me. I have started trying to get people to read her books (and libraries to make her books available to readers), it's unbelievable how much opposition I get. Even if all those people are not themselves perpetrators of child sexual abuse, incest, or buyers of prostituted women's bodies and viewers of porn, they are enablers.
It is the willful ignorance of those without self knowledge, personal integrity, or a semblance of courage that allows them whether subconsciously or consciously to form a buffer (between them and truth/reality/eventuality of the system under which they are subjugated )of victim blaming, self righteousness and it couldn’t happen to me because I am sPEcial or I have BOundarIEs or a fucking degree, or a 6 figure salary. You and I, as victims of male violence represent an uncomfortable truth that must be explained away or placated or smoothed over so people can go about either a) continuing to live under the delusions disseminated to protect capitalism and patriarchy from meaningful dissent, because it means they do not have to be uncomfortable and change, and do not have to feel guilty or responsible for the mistreatment of others, and b) perpetrating male violence, rape, abuse, oppression, subjugation with impunity, because far from being anomalies, predators are everywhere, monsters do exist, and they are doctors, lawyers, CEOs, politicians, police officers, your polite neighbor, your sweet friend, your charismatic coworker, and your charming Tinder date. I’ll explain that as opposed to survivor, (of course I still believe every woman has a right to call herself that instead of a victim, or whatever terminology feels right in that context), I use victim by way of delineating the other watered down meaning of victim and that of people who have been actively and actually victimized by men which is something you can never alter, it is as much a part of you as your arm, and to propagate the devastating reality that hundreds of thousands of victims of male violence do not “survive”, but they are no less warriors and comrades and of probable additional political significance symbolically in death, because murder and coerced suicide which is still murder is the ultimate silencing of women and it is of the utmost importance that we do not forget them, that they are humanized and mourned and grieved. And finally to dispel the notion that if you fight hard enough, if you do all the right things, if you are “strong” enough you can somehow conquer male violence which is an utter fallacy. I not special or different than those that have died, I did not make different decisions or acted in any way that holds any sort of significance in the outcome of my predation. I survived and they did not and that is deeply sad and I am extremely lucky, but not blessed or exceptional.
@@hillbill6106 I absolutely adore the way you're thinking, is there an email or any other means of communication to text you?
@yehmen29 it didn't happen. Everyone knows it didn't happen. Stop lying.
God that man saying mothers are more likely to kill their children. He doesn’t understand the burden childbearing places on women.The stress and the poverty involved as though women who been through 9 months and that painful birth would do it out of pure evil. What an idiot. He can’t see the big picture. She was so patient.
Honestly I don't know how Andrea was still such a gentle and soft speaking person, despite everything she went through and how close she always been to women who have suffered in the hands of men. If I've been her I'd have lash out immediately 😬
It's not about painful birth. It's about women being left with trauma from disrespectful, dehumanizing, medicalized birth that treats her like a machine and then sends her home without a social net/community to care for them through this disrespected rite of passage.🖖🏽
@@pinwheelart2825 true but in the context of the comment, painful birth isn’t *not* on the list
@@drstone7014 again you don’t think there’s a correlation between the immense pressure put on women to be mothers/care for entire families … and them losing it & killing their kids? You genuinely think that isn’t an issue that starts with what women are forced to deal with?
@@pinwheelart2825 exactly, birth is super painful of course, but the real problem is obstetric violence, male ob gyns are the worst, some female doctors and nurses don't treat patients well either. When a woman is having a baby she is in a vulnerable state and needs support. People defend hospital birth wayyy too much because childbirth is painted as something dangerous (and it can be obviously) that women don't know how to do it. That is one of the most sexist shit men have done in history and feminist motherhood critiques it a lot.
Andrea Dworkin... you and your work will never be forgotten.
I've always been amazed by Andrea's writing voice, which is often so full of fire. And in person, she is so quiet one almost leans forward to hear her better. But that softness is hiding the same direct truths as her books.
Right??
Andrea Dworkin Is a writer of brilliance
I can't believe how patient she was with that jerk.
Dworkin is my ride or die!! RIP sister, you were one of our brightest stars ❤️❤️❤️
Bless you, Andrea. You loved us and I love you.
She speaks so passionately really rare when people are this academic.
Remarkable speech by a brilliant person
This is my first time really engaging with Andrea Dworkin. Unfortunately I've only really heard of her as a punchline, and I know that she is quite widely disliked, but I found a lot of what she talks about in this appearance still so relevant to the state of gender roles, misogyny and the limits of liberation via politics
I never read her work until recently and I was surprised to find that she was not just brilliant but funny! I was so surprised that reading her work was a pleasure and a joy.
@@stregalilith She could make you laugh and cry in the same sentence. Terribly, terribly missed.
You are so right! Sadly because of an undeserved reputation for harshness she wasn’t widely read and so all three of these powerful issues haven’t advanced as much as they should have. But help is coming from an unexpected source. A still small voice on the right-Sheila Wray Gregoire.
Isn't it crazy how much she is misrepresented. It makes you wonder who has power and who gets scared by this kind of talk.
Oh Andrea we need you so badly right now
Hail Andrea. I wish i had met you. I wish I could hug, kiss and thank for giving your life for women.
Thank you so much for this... so full of wisdom
You could call it wisdom. I call it solipsism.
@@fosbury68 no one asked what you think, scrote.
@@fosbury68 you're so triggered.
@@fosbury68 I guess you wouldn’t say that to men who in these podcast promoting cheating whoring around.
Keep coping my guy.
@@fosbury68 you sound needy
she said something very very interesting that I remember from 4 yrs ago reading 'heartbreak' - in countries such as india the main predictor for entry into prostitution is poverty, but in the west its child abuse in the home and incest. fascinating and poignant. cultures are different and their difference has differing effects, but slavers are savvy to this - so we need to be too. and fast!
I've only just discovered this woman.. which is a crime! every woman should know of Andrea Dworkin she was a lioness a truly courageous human. I love her! It's no surprise @yehmen29, that you would still be facing opposition! Women's body's are still being used for profit.. look at the beautification industry alone and the porn industry is monstrous! I was also recently shocked to hear Judith Butler say she didn't agree with Andrea Dworkin's view of pornography??
Best channel on TH-cam
something about 12:47 through 13:33 makes me tear up each time
Is she talking about women unspeaking? If so she's right - it's far more common now than it was in previous decades
Great woman!
2024, I’m 35 years old - I’ll always remember you Andrea. I’ll make sure any woman I come across know about you as well
Even one of her CRITICS said Andrea Dworkin was actually nice, soft spoken and polite and that although they disagreed and even dispised some of her views (such as virtually all heterosexual intercourse even consensual and initiated by the female is R¢PE) they said in real life she was a kind gentle person. She's much less intense than I was expecting and her views do make you think 🤔. VERY bright woman.
That's actually not what she believed, but you know... our society has a challenging time understanding nuance and not engaging in either/or and disordered thinking.
Oh so important. We cant just go into the institutions and become assimilated if we are to make real change. 🖖🏽
Who knows the date of this meeting ?
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I suppose she means she doesn't understand why women would look to the tech that makes men money and not that she doesn't understand why women would want to be mother's; as that is biologically sound thought/want to continue any species. Had to play that part back.
Thank you for sharing this. Look forward to checking out more of your channel.
Not a bigot btw:
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_26:12__ the projection is strong with this one_
_33:52__ a Dworkin _*_classic_*
4 separate comments on one video.. is life so boring for you?
@@hannahbb2557 you _literally_ couldn't resist trying to put me down despite the fact that basically nobody else read my comment(s) lol. I think I'll reject your condemnation of how I allocate my time, on the grounds of: _"the kettle calling the pot black."_ ^.^
_When the most privileged and protected class throughout all of recorded history is claiming victimhood:_
_Aka when one of the most devisive, bigoted, hateful persons in recent times complain about gender division:_
6:25 _"Men [...] have more based voices"_ 🎃
I like Andrea Dworkin, but when speaking her delivery is so.... "intense," it's quite hard work listening to her.
Germaine Greer is the far better public speaker.
fair play. it took me a while to get use to her slow out of breath way of speaking but now that I did I love her, and she is far les bullish*t than Germaine. altho Germaine is great entertainment value.
This woman is just seething with rage.
And? Of course she is! We should all be angry!
@@wendyyoung Why live that way?
@@fosbury68 why wouldn’t you?
@@cancerousamphibian625 Because life is a blessing. Why waste it on hatred?
You say that as if rage is never a perfectly justifiable and reasonable response to atrocities that happen to people other than yourself.
But thank you for showing yourself as yet another closed-minded male trying to undermine Dworkin's brilliance. Your behavior is just a symptom. We live in a sick world full of many reasons you'll never care to know of just how wholly justified women's rage is.
What she says about women killing children is not based on reality
It is 1000% true
Actual figures show a perfect equality between M & F in children murders, bc of shaking new borns. Why keeping on putting all the guilt on women ? Hatred ? Jealousy ? Masculinist fury trolling to appease frustrations ?
Practically all family annihilators are men. Men are also hurt by the patriarchy being told they must shoulder all of the financial burden of a family when it's become impossible.
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While patriarchy harms all of us, men too, this issue of men shouldering all of responsibility to financially support the family is no longer the reality. Woman are working in professional fields. Of course, we have to fight for equal pay for equal work, but we are gaining strides in this area. Look at how many women heads of household there are, women are leaving shitty marriages and relationships, women are progressing.
It’s tragic to see though that conservatism is working hard to silence us, this is nothing new and with technology being faster and farther reaching as technology booms.