Trailblazer talking about Firefly: "She's so precious, must protect." Blade talking about Firefly: "No rules, no boundaries, he doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or a country or any set of ideals, he trades blood for money"
And of course, let's not forget Silver Wolf's dialogue when she visits the express Silver Wolf: "Isn't it often the case in movies that a guy comes home and turns on the lights, only to find someone sitting on the sofa waiting for him? Kafka and Blade both like to do that, and Sam won't even give the guy a chance to turn on the lights."
Why is Blade nervous about Sam? Blade literally cannot die, even though he wants to. To the point he had one of his old friends "kill" him, for a brief temporary release of pain of his own immortality
Blade essentially said that his life is unending torture, and that Sam creates unending torture for those she kills i.e. flaying them alive if I were to guess.
Blade is more like impress than nervous about her i mean who could have guess that the cute and fragile and innocent looking girl can be such a menace arsonistic mecha?
A theory/idea I heard is that- maybe the Hunters Kinda misunderstood Sam/firefly. When Firefly is in Sam Suit her health is constantly deteriorating. So she finishes her missons as fast as possible her avoid risk of health. And in doing so she came off as Ruthless. Cause she doesn't play her targets like Kafka. She just comes and goes. And the Sam armor of course isnt anything less then a walking nuke either lol
more like a walking life support system. given what she herself says about her past, i think there's a tinge of truth to what she told us, she probably does indeed have some for of degenerative disease. and her suit, outside the dream, is what keeps her alive/functional... worse case scenario, she's already mostly "vegetative" as she kind of says, and the suit is the only thing that keeps her alive. give what she imply on her heart to heart moment, when she's talking about herself and her past, about how she can "inside the dream be someone, she cannot be outside the dream". i think Firefly is permanently locked in the suit outside penacony. edit: Firefly's situation is not far of the common honkai thread... it even is similar to Bronya from Honkai Impact 3rd even, i dunno if you're a veteran from Honkai and i can give some quick context: Cocolia used to make experiments on orphans using a substance called honkai, she then one day, did said experiment on Bronya, who was supposed to be highly compatible with honkai, but something goes bad, Bronya ends up almost completely physically impaired, and the last resort is for her to be given a floating exosuit that could... simulate, movements for her, so she can be.. somewhat alive. the game kind of gives you a hint that Bronya in the early game, doesnt quite move "naturally" she's very, rigid, and her movements are somewhat slow, also, she walks around by floating, primarily, because i imagine her body cannot walk properly.
@@GERAT023 wait? I thought Bronya got impaired trying to save Honkai 3rd Seele? It was also in the Azure Sea music video. Seele got caught in the Quantam Sea(or whatever that term was I forgot cause it has been so long). And Bronya also got the same experiment done on Seele to save Seele from the Sea. But got impaired instead and had to use the Floaty robot
@@GERAT023 the glamoth suit armor is implied to hurt the pilot, given Sam's dialogue regarding dreams and burning ("...to keep on burning..."), combined with the scars on the pilots face immediately after they exit the Sam mecha. The glamith cavalry is also compared to the swarm (planar set lore). It's quite likely that hyv borrows from eva here, and oh actually thw mechas are the same as the monsters etc etc
Yeah me too, yet im still in denial and i thought she just isnt pure because as she is a stowaway, she need to do like illegal and impure stuff she she could get into the penacony,
@@arliem9654 I always assumed we could only see Clockie because, as several characters have stated, we have an extremely strong reaction to the Memoria that permeates Penacony. The only other 2 people we know can perceive Clockie are Acheron (kind of) and Misha. Acheron is similarly very reactive to Memoria, so I think that makes sense for her. Misha...well... *there's something weird about ol' keyhole eyes, I just know it.*
Maybe Maybe not, but, i believe not. 'cause bro, maybe they don't know that sam is Firefly, maybe is a thing from elio, like, the other members shouldn't know about Firefly. Well, let see in the next patch.
In Kafka's companion mission she explains each of the Stellaron Hunters made a deal with Elio that none of the others know about. I'd imagine Elio offered Firefly a way out of her condition, but needs a brawler for his scripts, and so hired FIrefly on as "Sam". Whether FIrefly was doing Sam-type stuff before Elio came along is unclear - it's possible she was, and it's possible that Elio saw that there were futures where she became Sam - an incredibly capable fighter - and so brought her on for that role. Point is, there's no reason for the other Stellaron Hunters to know what Sam looks like under the armour, and they probably did the same thing we all did: Saw a big, burly robot death machine and went "oh, that's probably a dude"
Actually it was Blade who tell you that at the end of Kafka's companion mission. But ya he does imply they all have their own deal with Elio and none of them knows what the other want. Only that what they want is something extremely difficult to achieve.
Read the lore for Firmament Frontline: Glamoth planar ornaments, it gives some interesting backstory to the suit of armor, and potentially some insight into how Firefly came to control it.
@@asahinamfy not really, there’s technically no reason for firefly to be outside the armour due to her condition. There’s also no proof that kafka was the first member or if sam was but i don’t really see how sam would be fine with kafka seeing her under the armor and why she wouldn’t show blade and wolf
“You might consider it a lucky break running into me~” That’s true! Because once we ran into Sam/Firefly we all had our HEARTS SHATTERED INTO A MILLION PIECES WHEN WE SAW HER DIE.
No matter how cute people find her, every stellaron hunter and FIREFLY HERSELF have admitted she’s one of the most violent heartless people ever when it comes down to actual combat. She even says to Acheron that she isn’t able to dream about the people she kills anymore.
Naturally remember she was created to kill monsters but she has a shorts life span and is shorter everything day it passes, mentally it doesnt do her any favors and the hunters don't talk to her to much, i think the Trailblazer ever talk to her at all when it was a hunters too
No, she didn’t say she can’t dream anymore. She said she doesn’t dream at all. Hence her fatalistic attitude towards life. She’s on death’s door and Elio claims there’s a way to avoid it (hence the “gains” that TB and Firefly will achieve in Penacony).
No bro. Firefly literally said she wasn't able to dream AT ALL. She was literally never able to dream is the problem and that's why when they try to examine her dreams of people she killed they find nothing since she was never able to dream in the first place.
well it also happened to be the same place where firefly got stabbed and the photo was literally dropped there already so like its kinda hard to draw that conclusion immediately lol
"Isn't it often the case in movies that a guy comes home and turns on the lights, only to find someone sitting on the sofa waiting for him? Kafka and Blade both like to do that, and Sam won't even give the guy a chance to turn on the lights." - Silver Wolf
I like to think that her suit is actually what keeps her alive, and her getting out of it would mean she will suffer from her disease. It would make sense since her dialogue is about she can be who she wants to be in penacony, meanings she's free from the suit.
Everybody in the iron cavalry (the army of knights like sam) all had short lives and were born only to fight, which makes me think that it’s actually the opposite. The usage of the armor shortens her lifespan, and to slow this process, she stays in an "icy medical cabin" in the real world. As she said to Acheron, she just keeps on burning, and given how the armor is powered up, this would make sense. We can also see some "veins" retracting when she takes off the armor
On the other hand, Firefly being Sam implies she has spent time with the Trailblazer before this. And they were all talking about Sam’s skills, not personality.
Have people not met irl soldiers?? do these people in the comments think that a soldier who shoots down the soldiers of the other army ruthlessly can't be a loving family person to his own family or friends?? that is basically what firefly is...she is a soldier who is an innocent girl when she doesn't have to be a soldier...
That's a good point but I think mainly because soldiers don't get described this way. "Picky about prey" is a very weird way to describe it. But that might be just Kafka thinking that way and Firefly not seeing them as prey, and more just her job. But then nor do soldiers speak the way Sam does when we fought her. Like about our "ultimate departure" even if in other dubs, she's more polite; the meaning is still the same and is a bit "edgy."
Except these Stellaron Hunters aren't actually about killing 'enemy soldiers'. The actual soldiers they killed would be a very small minority compared to innocent civilians they killed.
most likely the other Stellaron Hunters have no clue what's inside the pale armor. except Elio. of course. because Elio knows everything. edit: also... ngl. the way Sam spoke with Acheron, doesnt make... herself... sound as much of a terrible person. if anything. Sam... i mean.. Firefly, sound actually, quite detached from everything. i mean, Firefly says it herself, in Penacony she can be someone she can no longer be able to. probably because She's stuck on the... tough merciless armored doomsday bringer persona she had to encapsulate herself inside of. to be part of the Stellaron Hunters. Tough outside, soft inside, kind of situation.
firefly was talking to sam like he is a separate entity when we looked at her memories after her "death" in 2.0 she mentioned sam as Mecha and asked him question like "why mecha?" its very clear sam and firefly have their own mind but shares the same body like some symbiote suit over her. Even the way both talk has a clear difference as sam sounds so robotic as each of his words comes out separately and strong while firefly sounds more normal and fluent with her speech.
I imagined Firefly like a female version of Link from specifically Breath of the Wild, or Tears of the Kingdom. At the very least a lore accurate Link version xD.
It's very vague. Doing evil things to evil ppl doesn't make u good. However it does mean that she at least isn't going after the innocent and the grey.
@@MrYamiBakura That's not true. That's like Batman's line, "If u kill one killer, the number of killers stays the same", well, if u kill multiple killers that no longer applies
@@GortinTime Okay, but the act of killing is still evil at least if there are other options at the time. Self-defense is different ofc. To me it almost seems like sometimes ppl are looking for excuses to torture and/or kill and a reason like 'they were scum anyways' will do for them. That is not what a good person does.
@@zigazav1 I mean, given that we clearly used to be a Stellaron Hunter, and were probably friends with most, if not all, of them. I don't think she really needs a reason *not* to kill us. And it's not like they're after the stellaron in us. They're the ones who put it there.
Considering Sam/Firefly were artificially created supersoldiers created to defeat Bug Eon - nothing is strange about it. Plus she has very weak health without her costume, so can't really have close relationship or friendship with anyone.
@@battlecast9202 that's the lore of a planet she is from. So she must be one of those soldiers, as only they were using Mecha and were under mind-control of an Empress. Search: "Glamoth's Iron Cavalry" and you can also read descriptions of "Firmament Frontline: Glamoth".
I believe that Sam and Firefly isn't the same person per say. Don't forget Firefly was talking to someone during the dreamscape and how it "this wasn't the deal". I think Sam is a living mech life support for Firefly.
In one of the messages, Firefly sends a bunch of cute emojis and then Kafka or Silver Wolf (I don’t remember who exactly answered) say that Sam is writing to us. And if they didn’t know who Sam really was, it would look strange that the mecha would send such messages and the Hunters wouldn’t pay attention to it.
See, this is why I don’t mind spoiling the story for myself. Because I have no context for how or why Forefly is Sam, and now I gotta play the game to find out!
I don't know why everyone is thinking that the Stellaron Hunters don't know who Sam really is instead of thinking that Elio could have asked Sam to act likethat with the Trailblazer on purpose... Of course the Stellaron Hunters know! Silver Wolf gave us the access to "the real" dreamscape where we saw Firefly's murderer.
Trailblazer: "Hey Blade, why u are in anger all time??" *Blade having to work every day with a sadist, a reddit-using loli and a cross dresser robot* Blade: 😒
What I hear: Kafka about Firefly: she is a professional in her job. Silverwolf about Firefly: she likes gangster movies. Bladie about Firefly: she is incarnated Death. Two Plus sides with only 1 red flag(3Plus depending who you ask) 👍
i am sure she has some split personality, like there is no way you can act so innocent while doing all this stuff, exept shes like klee and is unaware of all the things she does and their consequences (which i doubt since she is a artificial made killing machine for this porpuse)
I don't think it's as deep as 2 personalities. I think Firefly, being a genetically engineered supersoldier, is just emotionally stunted enough to not be affected by her own mass destruction This emotional distance is what allowed her to act like the innocent girl she wants to be in the dream
Except not really? Even when we first met her in the 2.0 trailblaze quests, there are *numerous* hints that she is not as sweet or innocent as she seems to be. How sharp her intuition were, how calm she was when the Death meme held her up, how she spotted Sparkle(as Sampo) way before us and kept an eye on her, how Clockie said "only the pure/childlike innocents can see me" and if you tell her that straight up she gets triggered a bit(i aint blaming her). She just likes us and so she's doesn't want to fight or kill us, also none of the Stellaron Hunters- even Blade, are hostiles towards us(for obvious reasons) despite them supposed to be space terrorists and are wanted across galaxies.
@@GachaLord We are probably the favorite child of the Stellaron Hunters, but our growth probably wouldn't be enough by staying with the terrorist group. So Elio erased our memories and send us to the MC script aboard the Astral Express. So we can actually become the shounen protagonist we need to be.
nothing indicated that firefly is innocent aside from her looks, and she doesn't act it, she acts like a normal person. Aside from her vigilance and perception. When she's Sam she becomes a pro lol
In Firefly there is a hint. When we talk about beating some goons with our baseball, Firefly says and I Quote, "Baseball as a weapon is too inefficient wait no...that is not the point here."
Perhaps it a "persona" of sorts. For example, actors and TH-camrs tend to have a "persona" they "wear" in response to the public. Celebs tend to be very different to the public, than their real selves are. Perhaps Firefly as "Sam" is her using a male persona for her job as a Stelleron Hunter?
I'd still marry her in a heartbeat, i mean imagine you make her so mad one day she snaps and kamen rider kicks you after henshin'ing into the sam armor, best wife indeed.
Blade xalls aam 'he'. Do the hunters not know sams true identity? This voiceline was one of the reason i assumed Sam was name until I noticed heels in sams model....
Trailblazer talking about Firefly: "She's so precious, must protect."
Blade talking about Firefly: "No rules, no boundaries, he doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or a country or any set of ideals, he trades blood for money"
Trailblazer:And now its not he but she.
Blade: yes, but also now she is your girl, friends.
Your girl at home vs your girl at work basically
Me as the trailblazer: TOO BAD IM INTO THAT SHIT
Sam: *Remember, no Memes*
@@chill562 the DNA of the soul.
And of course, let's not forget Silver Wolf's dialogue when she visits the express
Silver Wolf: "Isn't it often the case in movies that a guy comes home and turns on the lights, only to find someone sitting on the sofa waiting for him? Kafka and Blade both like to do that, and Sam won't even give the guy a chance to turn on the lights."
Imagine getting rocket punched the moment you step into your house.
Robot jumpscarr
@@nemasisdemarini8339Truly a "Scary Movie" Moment
but why does blade like to do that tho, doesn't sound like him to me
@@_xxmidnight5351 Blade wants someone to take the first step. He still wants to die
Yeah I love how even BLADE is nervous about Sam-
Ya’ll Firefly is the most violent Stellaron Hunter and we’ve just been takin’ selfies with her 💀💀💀
Why is Blade nervous about Sam? Blade literally cannot die, even though he wants to. To the point he had one of his old friends "kill" him, for a brief temporary release of pain of his own immortality
It was also Sam that beat up Blade and took him to Elio 🤣
Blade essentially said that his life is unending torture, and that Sam creates unending torture for those she kills i.e. flaying them alive if I were to guess.
Blade is more like impress than nervous about her i mean who could have guess that the cute and fragile and innocent looking girl can be such a menace arsonistic mecha?
I love how this was said
the bang bang part is quite sus.
I'd love to Bang Bang... Bang! Sam 🔥😍
She gave Silver wolf some backshots
@@WAVE00799 Nah, I'll give her the bang bang. 🙂
@@WAVE00799 nah, silver wolf banged sam of course🐧🐧🐧
@@WAVE00799LMAO WTF
A theory/idea I heard is that- maybe the Hunters Kinda misunderstood Sam/firefly. When Firefly is in Sam Suit her health is constantly deteriorating. So she finishes her missons as fast as possible her avoid risk of health. And in doing so she came off as Ruthless. Cause she doesn't play her targets like Kafka. She just comes and goes.
And the Sam armor of course isnt anything less then a walking nuke either lol
more like a walking life support system. given what she herself says about her past, i think there's a tinge of truth to what she told us, she probably does indeed have some for of degenerative disease. and her suit, outside the dream, is what keeps her alive/functional... worse case scenario, she's already mostly "vegetative" as she kind of says, and the suit is the only thing that keeps her alive.
give what she imply on her heart to heart moment, when she's talking about herself and her past, about how she can "inside the dream be someone, she cannot be outside the dream". i think Firefly is permanently locked in the suit outside penacony.
edit: Firefly's situation is not far of the common honkai thread... it even is similar to Bronya from Honkai Impact 3rd even, i dunno if you're a veteran from Honkai and i can give some quick context: Cocolia used to make experiments on orphans using a substance called honkai, she then one day, did said experiment on Bronya, who was supposed to be highly compatible with honkai, but something goes bad, Bronya ends up almost completely physically impaired, and the last resort is for her to be given a floating exosuit that could... simulate, movements for her, so she can be.. somewhat alive. the game kind of gives you a hint that Bronya in the early game, doesnt quite move "naturally" she's very, rigid, and her movements are somewhat slow, also, she walks around by floating, primarily, because i imagine her body cannot walk properly.
@@GERAT023 wait? I thought Bronya got impaired trying to save Honkai 3rd Seele? It was also in the Azure Sea music video. Seele got caught in the Quantam Sea(or whatever that term was I forgot cause it has been so long). And Bronya also got the same experiment done on Seele to save Seele from the Sea. But got impaired instead and had to use the Floaty robot
@@GERAT023 the glamoth suit armor is implied to hurt the pilot, given Sam's dialogue regarding dreams and burning ("...to keep on burning..."), combined with the scars on the pilots face immediately after they exit the Sam mecha.
The glamith cavalry is also compared to the swarm (planar set lore). It's quite likely that hyv borrows from eva here, and oh actually thw mechas are the same as the monsters etc etc
I agree. I think this is the most plausible explanantion based on existing evidence.
@@trendmadegamer8725Yeah, that's how Bronya lost her legs. Though she has mechanical legs now
I mean, Clockie warned us when he said only children and honest and pure people could see him
Yeah me too, yet im still in denial and i thought she just isnt pure because as she is a stowaway, she need to do like illegal and impure stuff she she could get into the penacony,
@@arliem9654 I always assumed we could only see Clockie because, as several characters have stated, we have an extremely strong reaction to the Memoria that permeates Penacony. The only other 2 people we know can perceive Clockie are Acheron (kind of) and Misha. Acheron is similarly very reactive to Memoria, so I think that makes sense for her. Misha...well... *there's something weird about ol' keyhole eyes, I just know it.*
I thought it was plot armor
Yeah I trust Clockie about as far as I can throw him, and the game hasn't let me throw him yet.
Clockie is bro and bros before hoes, sorry firefly but You are dead to me
"I WILL SET THE SEAS ABLAZE"
- Firefly probably
Brave words for a dying person firefly
@@user-ku8yi5to4f”when you get back to reality, tell people of the Stellaron Hunter behind your ultimate departure”
Probably add a separate dialogue for Firefly once she is out
Maybe
Maybe not, but, i believe not.
'cause bro, maybe they don't know that sam is Firefly, maybe is a thing from elio, like, the other members shouldn't know about Firefly.
Well, let see in the next patch.
@@jhon5149 Either that or a Firefly title anime is "I can't believe my little terrorist is this cute"
@@GreenSpyro Lol
@@jhon5149shes not coming out next patch tho 2.2 will have robin and boothill so we will need to wait for 2.3 or more
@@luizotavio44 Yeah, i forgot about that.
In Kafka's companion mission she explains each of the Stellaron Hunters made a deal with Elio that none of the others know about. I'd imagine Elio offered Firefly a way out of her condition, but needs a brawler for his scripts, and so hired FIrefly on as "Sam". Whether FIrefly was doing Sam-type stuff before Elio came along is unclear - it's possible she was, and it's possible that Elio saw that there were futures where she became Sam - an incredibly capable fighter - and so brought her on for that role. Point is, there's no reason for the other Stellaron Hunters to know what Sam looks like under the armour, and they probably did the same thing we all did: Saw a big, burly robot death machine and went "oh, that's probably a dude"
Actually it was Blade who tell you that at the end of Kafka's companion mission. But ya he does imply they all have their own deal with Elio and none of them knows what the other want. Only that what they want is something extremely difficult to achieve.
If you look at the background lore on the knight order Sam was a part of, I doubt she was very peaceful even before joining Elio
Read the lore for Firmament Frontline: Glamoth planar ornaments, it gives some interesting backstory to the suit of armor, and potentially some insight into how Firefly came to control it.
Based on Firefly's conversation with Acheron, she's pretty fatalistic about her condition. Not sure if the deal actually involves a cure.
@@exu7325She did say she and the trailblazer will gain unimaginable benefit from this place. So hope?
Firefly: Should I call you mother-in-law
Kafka: Nani
Do you think that Kafka wasn’t the one who started this?)
@@rezzzonans4694 a great family. Kafka is a mother, blade is a father, silver wolf is a sister (or cool auntie). So who is the slave of fate?
@@burn422Probably grampa.
Blade's the edgy uncle mom has to take care of because the family doesn't want him anymore. @@burn422
@@rezzzonans4694 nah we have to give it to our cat elio
I want "bang bang missions" with Firefly too
Yeah you gonna "Bang Bang" Her
But she's gonna bang your head at the ground
i mean shi, if she has a mechanical one, i dont mind taking it
yall are so cringe😭
broo😂😂
🤨📸
To be fair it’s possible none of them know who’s under the armor except elio
@@asahinamfy not really, there’s technically no reason for firefly to be outside the armour due to her condition. There’s also no proof that kafka was the first member or if sam was but i don’t really see how sam would be fine with kafka seeing her under the armor and why she wouldn’t show blade and wolf
@@therenegade4482 Firefly's light cone is Kafka finding her, how's that a "not really"
Does it matter? Ureally think they would care?
@@GortinTimeproof? Kafka ain’t in the LC
And Acheron also.
“You might consider it a lucky break running into me~”
That’s true! Because once we ran into Sam/Firefly we all had our HEARTS SHATTERED INTO A MILLION PIECES WHEN WE SAW HER DIE.
tbh, imagine if she did it just to get some sick pleasure of seeing us get mentally destroyed lol
This is basically your girl at home vs. your girl at work
No matter how cute people find her, every stellaron hunter and FIREFLY HERSELF have admitted she’s one of the most violent heartless people ever when it comes down to actual combat. She even says to Acheron that she isn’t able to dream about the people she kills anymore.
I sympathize with the guilt of not dreaming about them anymore
very interesting
Naturally remember she was created to kill monsters but she has a shorts life span and is shorter everything day it passes, mentally it doesnt do her any favors and the hunters don't talk to her to much, i think the Trailblazer ever talk to her at all when it was a hunters too
No, she didn’t say she can’t dream anymore. She said she doesn’t dream at all. Hence her fatalistic attitude towards life. She’s on death’s door and Elio claims there’s a way to avoid it (hence the “gains” that TB and Firefly will achieve in Penacony).
No bro.
Firefly literally said she wasn't able to dream AT ALL.
She was literally never able to dream is the problem and that's why when they try to examine her dreams of people she killed they find nothing since she was never able to dream in the first place.
The photo being left behind where we fought SAM was a hint most of us misinterpreted
well it also happened to be the same place where firefly got stabbed and the photo was literally dropped there already so like its kinda hard to draw that conclusion immediately lol
@@Ixs4i yes that is what misinterpreted means
Nothing wrong with the bang part
Sa- i mean firefly, just had a delicious meal, imagine food wars.
Blade: "Sam is good at creating purgatory..."
Me: "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn..."
wait if
Firefly is Sam.
Sam create Hell.
Blade live in Hell.
Doesn't that mean Firefly make Bladie a house???
More SO when shes literally dying
"Isn't it often the case in movies that a guy comes home and turns on the lights, only to find someone sitting on the sofa waiting for him? Kafka and Blade both like to do that, and Sam won't even give the guy a chance to turn on the lights."
- Silver Wolf
I like to think that her suit is actually what keeps her alive, and her getting out of it would mean she will suffer from her disease. It would make sense since her dialogue is about she can be who she wants to be in penacony, meanings she's free from the suit.
Everybody in the iron cavalry (the army of knights like sam) all had short lives and were born only to fight, which makes me think that it’s actually the opposite. The usage of the armor shortens her lifespan, and to slow this process, she stays in an "icy medical cabin" in the real world. As she said to Acheron, she just keeps on burning, and given how the armor is powered up, this would make sense. We can also see some "veins" retracting when she takes off the armor
Shes dying and nothing Will changes that, and i don't trust Elio at all
Maybe they are talking to the Brazilian Swordman
I know one thing for real there will be blood-shed!
On the other hand, Firefly being Sam implies she has spent time with the Trailblazer before this.
And they were all talking about Sam’s skills, not personality.
Have people not met irl soldiers?? do these people in the comments think that a soldier who shoots down the soldiers of the other army ruthlessly can't be a loving family person to his own family or friends?? that is basically what firefly is...she is a soldier who is an innocent girl when she doesn't have to be a soldier...
That's a good point but I think mainly because soldiers don't get described this way. "Picky about prey" is a very weird way to describe it. But that might be just Kafka thinking that way and Firefly not seeing them as prey, and more just her job. But then nor do soldiers speak the way Sam does when we fought her. Like about our "ultimate departure" even if in other dubs, she's more polite; the meaning is still the same and is a bit "edgy."
Except these Stellaron Hunters aren't actually about killing 'enemy soldiers'.
The actual soldiers they killed would be a very small minority compared to innocent civilians they killed.
@@misterbin00 All in the name of reaching a good future. They may be killers, but they aren't entirely evil. They're not monsters.
@@zigazav1stop coping they are😂
@@keyboardwarrior8905 tell me if haven't seen the the lore, without telling me you haven't seen the lore:
i was just looking at the “he” IS FIREFLY MALE OR IS SHE ALSO JUST KEEPING SECRETS FROM THEM? HELLO??😭
most likely the other Stellaron Hunters have no clue what's inside the pale armor. except Elio. of course. because Elio knows everything.
edit: also... ngl. the way Sam spoke with Acheron, doesnt make... herself... sound as much of a terrible person. if anything. Sam... i mean.. Firefly, sound actually, quite detached from everything. i mean, Firefly says it herself, in Penacony she can be someone she can no longer be able to. probably because She's stuck on the... tough merciless armored doomsday bringer persona she had to encapsulate herself inside of. to be part of the Stellaron Hunters. Tough outside, soft inside, kind of situation.
Imagine being a straight dude simping over a cute "girl" with "something long" underneath their pants😂
She has a bad illness so maybe they don’t know it’s Firefly because she wears the suit all the time
the weird thing is, firefly 3d model doesnt fit inside sam's mech body 3d model if you compare them side by side.
And the story cutscene showed us otherwise. Firefly burning the suit away and revealing herself(how tf)@@someoneinasia
firefly was talking to sam like he is a separate entity when we looked at her memories after her "death" in 2.0 she mentioned sam as Mecha and asked him question like "why mecha?" its very clear sam and firefly have their own mind but shares the same body like some symbiote suit over her. Even the way both talk has a clear difference as sam sounds so robotic as each of his words comes out separately and strong while firefly sounds more normal and fluent with her speech.
I just kinda assume it's like Iron man where he has tony and a vey sassy jarvis.
yea that's what i'm thinking too, though it's kinda up in the air how much either controls the resulting amalgam
And during that fight sam doesn't have that greenish glow
Stellaron Hunters: Sam's a cold blooded killer, crushes everything in their path.
Firefly: SELFIEEEEE BESTIEEEEEEEE
To be fair, she did say she was good at dealing with evil-doers. So no worries. Firefly is still a good girl
I imagined Firefly like a female version of Link from specifically Breath of the Wild, or Tears of the Kingdom. At the very least a lore accurate Link version xD.
she literally says “most of the things im good at only apply to villains who need no mercy”
It's very vague. Doing evil things to evil ppl doesn't make u good. However it does mean that she at least isn't going after the innocent and the grey.
@@MrYamiBakura That's not true. That's like Batman's line, "If u kill one killer, the number of killers stays the same", well, if u kill multiple killers that no longer applies
@@GortinTime Okay, but the act of killing is still evil at least if there are other options at the time. Self-defense is different ofc.
To me it almost seems like sometimes ppl are looking for excuses to torture and/or kill and a reason like 'they were scum anyways' will do for them. That is not what a good person does.
Probably why Firefly liked the Trailblazer, for the first time someone stood up for her.
Also, "Sam" is forbidden from killing the MC Trailblazer, the Stelleron Hunters need the MC alive for their "script" they follow, to work
@@zigazav1 I mean, given that we clearly used to be a Stellaron Hunter, and were probably friends with most, if not all, of them. I don't think she really needs a reason *not* to kill us. And it's not like they're after the stellaron in us. They're the ones who put it there.
So she's the panda to the trailblazer's raccoon
And like a panda, shes dying
So, basically she is a human playing terminator robot vtuber persona in real life
There's usually a dude behind a cute anime girl profile pic but this time it's the opposite. I feel like I got reverse catfished
0:33 The way she connotates the statement... "and then it's over" like she is impressed 😂😂
"The face of someone who is good at creating purgatory" is a great line
i want to think that silver wolf and firefly actually get along really well when she's not in the costume but i have no idea if that seems off or not
maybe im just in love with the idea that silver wolf is besties with everyone i dunno anymore
@@isegeeseshe does seem outgoing enough from her "liife~ is a game~" outlook to get along with people
Silver wolf : Sam goes BANG BANG and it's done
Trailblazer's mind : PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP?
I don't think they know who is inside that armour, unless I'm wrong
Yall sam/firefly knew TB prior to penacony, when they were with kafka, imagining sam thinking "i wanna be friends >\\
Sam did text bunch of cute pom pom stickers with Blade's phone.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 i find it funny that everyone uses hes phone except FOR HIM lol
Some strange thing i notice is that in the dialogue with her You can be mean to her SO well Friends really don't
Clearly they all don’t know who Sam really is 😂
They don't care even if it's Santa Claus inside armor. They just care about the script.
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So, apparently Sam plays video games with SW, I wonder if she plays in her armor or her Firefly form
If she plays in her armor, that'd be comical given how massive it is
Sam getting describe like it's fucking AM but Firefly is just a silly lil billy
Considering Sam/Firefly were artificially created supersoldiers created to defeat Bug Eon - nothing is strange about it. Plus she has very weak health without her costume, so can't really have close relationship or friendship with anyone.
You know something I don't or you just writing fan fiction
@@battlecast9202 that's the lore of a planet she is from. So she must be one of those soldiers, as only they were using Mecha and were under mind-control of an Empress.
Search: "Glamoth's Iron Cavalry" and you can also read descriptions of "Firmament Frontline: Glamoth".
@@battlecast9202 He knows something you don't
Is in the glamoth set
I believe that Sam and Firefly isn't the same person per say. Don't forget Firefly was talking to someone during the dreamscape and how it "this wasn't the deal". I think Sam is a living mech life support for Firefly.
Yes Because she has entropy loss syndrome and he serves her for that purpose you say
Have you played 2.1 quest yet ?
Ohhh boi do i have news for you
Damn , peak copium😂🤣
She is clearly sam, but i wonder who she was talking to
Something that caught my eye is the fact that Blade says he instead of she do they even know what Sam/Firefly looks like under the armour? 0:15
In one of the messages, Firefly sends a bunch of cute emojis and then Kafka or Silver Wolf (I don’t remember who exactly answered) say that Sam is writing to us. And if they didn’t know who Sam really was, it would look strange that the mecha would send such messages and the Hunters wouldn’t pay attention to it.
they sounds like they dont know who's inside sam
See, this is why I don’t mind spoiling the story for myself. Because I have no context for how or why Forefly is Sam, and now I gotta play the game to find out!
:d she s pretty much good at doing missions and killing everything
I don't know why everyone is thinking that the Stellaron Hunters don't know who Sam really is instead of thinking that Elio could have asked Sam to act likethat with the Trailblazer on purpose... Of course the Stellaron Hunters know! Silver Wolf gave us the access to "the real" dreamscape where we saw Firefly's murderer.
i doubt that those stellaron hunter member know whats inside that battlesuit.... like blade literally mentioned her by he....
the most friendly looking one is also the most dangerous one
lmao the firefly clara face in the thumbnail xd
She is the wholesome dangerous cute girl
BTW ALL, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE VIEWING SPOT, NEW DIALOGUE AFTER 2.1
I think Sam is the ai of the armor and he works like a titan of Titanfall, he still work without the pilot
Sam, literally the embodiment of "and my job here is done *flies away*"
Firefly in kamen rider form is basically final riding everything
Now that ita confirm i imagin sam voicelune with firefly's face
They better give us a auest with firefly after the 2.2 story quest
Sam is portrayed as someone who's very effective by stellaron hunters. I'm so excited for 2.2 story
So the stellaron hunters dont know who is inside all those metals huh
You don’t have to make me like her more you know?
Trailblazer: "Hey Blade, why u are in anger all time??"
*Blade having to work every day with a sadist, a reddit-using loli and a cross dresser robot*
Blade: 😒
well I love the kind of woman that will actually just kill me
What I hear:
Kafka about Firefly: she is a professional in her job.
Silverwolf about Firefly: she likes gangster movies.
Bladie about Firefly: she is incarnated Death.
Two Plus sides with only 1 red flag(3Plus depending who you ask) 👍
I bet they didn't even know sam is actually a she💀
They couldn't care less about who it really is. They just care about the script
Im not ready for silver wolf part 💀
And yet I dont understand why sam downplays himself when he compared himself to the other stellaron hunters
i am sure she has some split personality, like there is no way you can act so innocent while doing all this stuff, exept shes like klee and is unaware of all the things she does and their consequences (which i doubt since she is a artificial made killing machine for this porpuse)
I don't think it's as deep as 2 personalities. I think Firefly, being a genetically engineered supersoldier, is just emotionally stunted enough to not be affected by her own mass destruction
This emotional distance is what allowed her to act like the innocent girl she wants to be in the dream
Except not really? Even when we first met her in the 2.0 trailblaze quests, there are *numerous* hints that she is not as sweet or innocent as she seems to be. How sharp her intuition were, how calm she was when the Death meme held her up, how she spotted Sparkle(as Sampo) way before us and kept an eye on her, how Clockie said "only the pure/childlike innocents can see me" and if you tell her that straight up she gets triggered a bit(i aint blaming her).
She just likes us and so she's doesn't want to fight or kill us, also none of the Stellaron Hunters- even Blade, are hostiles towards us(for obvious reasons) despite them supposed to be space terrorists and are wanted across galaxies.
@@GachaLord We are probably the favorite child of the Stellaron Hunters, but our growth probably wouldn't be enough by staying with the terrorist group. So Elio erased our memories and send us to the MC script aboard the Astral Express. So we can actually become the shounen protagonist we need to be.
@@GreenSpyro it's funny how elio literally set us up to be the protagonist
nothing indicated that firefly is innocent aside from her looks, and she doesn't act it, she acts like a normal person. Aside from her vigilance and perception. When she's Sam she becomes a pro lol
People need to understand that firefly herself didnt show her true emotions at all and we were basically a breath of fresh air for them
theres literally no guarantee
I love how Blade basically just calls her fucking annoying, LMFAO.
But for him everyone is annoying, specialy himself
so Firefly was beating the shit out of me in MoC...
More like, Plap plap plap... PLAP, and then it's over
Why in the thumbnail does she look like she’s about to call for svarog
I’d like to assume purgatory for Blade is Firefly practicing her edgy “SAM” lines
They might not be aware of SAMs Firefly persona.
In Firefly there is a hint. When we talk about beating some goons with our baseball, Firefly says and I Quote,
"Baseball as a weapon is too inefficient wait no...that is not the point here."
yeah i think they just forgot about how they portrayed sam before when they made firefly into sam
Kafka: u lucky to meet me first lol
Blade: nah, he killed me before
SW: yay, he gone boom boom boom!!
The amount of gender envy I'm getting from AhegaoFly is a tad concerning
so she's super strong member
friendly reminder that the cute and pretty girl we went on a date with is actually overflowing with barely contained bloodlust at all times
Damn what if Sam is a bald old guy behind the avarta
and the best part is this is also probably the same person who stole Blade's phone to send us emojis
does this mean that firefly's own faction members don't know who she really is?? blade definitely doesnt know
My question is are they only talking about the Sam side or the firefly side as well
"LEAVE NOW OR ALL YOU WILL DIE HERE"
"Also uwu"
-firefly probably
I just want to know how she changes her attitude completely while in the suit
Perhaps it a "persona" of sorts. For example, actors and TH-camrs tend to have a "persona" they "wear" in response to the public. Celebs tend to be very different to the public, than their real selves are. Perhaps Firefly as "Sam" is her using a male persona for her job as a Stelleron Hunter?
Maybe it's the same principle as when acheron draws her sword temporarily to remember things
For firefly "unsheathing" is becoming sam
so your tell my that the most violent and distructiv member of stellaron hunters is a cute girl that is giving us a date?
I'd still marry her in a heartbeat, i mean imagine you make her so mad one day she snaps and kamen rider kicks you after henshin'ing into the sam armor, best wife indeed.
So if we put firefly with them in the team will they speak or keep being silent
When you realize Sam/Firefly just wants missions to be over and done with as soon as possible, so attacks them ruthlessly and directly.
Blade xalls aam 'he'. Do the hunters not know sams true identity? This voiceline was one of the reason i assumed Sam was name until I noticed heels in sams model....
what the hell did you do to me
The coping aura from this video is massive.
I'm the same
lil bro have you played the 2.1 story quest wdym coping lmao
oh you sweet summer child.
bro go finish 2.1 first before commenting lol
You sound like someone who hasn't played the 2.1 story
Play the 2.1 version story quest my friend
maybe they're talking about SAM and not the one inside
Idk where I heard. But only Elio and now Trailblazer knows Sam's identity iirc
Maybe she like a superhero to them, she doesn't want to show them her real face and identity
im saveing uo now in case sam/ff becoms playble
I'm still reeling from the fact that Firefly is Sam because when they are playable Sam will be a Clara and Svarog
Firefly being the most violent one is kinda crazy 😭 she said herself she doesn’t like talking and just blows up whatever she wants.
I mean, people can be quite different when they are on the job. I know that I am.
They most likely have never seen Sam not in her armor