Student visas, schengen visa, everything. The demands from africans if always ridiculous in comparison to everywhere else. Try inviting a family member from Africa. The system is intentionally way more painful, worse so for Africans.
After pointing out the situation, which no reasonable person would want, the next logical step is to make it clear to more people and start trying to change the system. A daunting task but we've got to try this.
@josephewurum2017 It is experiences just like yours that I am talking about. I am surprised to receive so much pushback from people who are Africans who either haven't experienced these crazy biases or who just have no eyes to look at what happens. Was Benin better off when you applied there? Did they grant you the visa? I wish you the best, brother.
@@renwithnumbers they are either ignorant or have chosen to always lick the white man's ass. I have a German child in Germany and am married to a German. But I went through all these without even considering my German family. All because of my nationality 😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@renwithnumbers Benin was heaven on earth for me. I got an appointment within 2 weeks and I have gone for my interview since a month now. I am yet to get my visa, but I see light at the end of the tunnel 🙏 I've been through hell bro
@@josephewurum2017 I'm very glad to hear you are making some progress there. This always boggle my mind when you use the same documents in a different country and get completely different results. This is why I keep saying that there is intentional bias against certain people. I pray the process works faster for you hence.
@@renwithnumbers Even the so called 6 Months verification they do in Nigeria, was never done in Benin Republic. The German embassy in Nigeria is the most useless embassy I've ever seen.
After more than 20years in Germany/Europe I can only say that we Africans are also responsible for what is happening to us. Back in 2003 my process for Student visa took me 3 weeks but then we started making fraud and now we're earning the result.
@janairo1883 Taking responsibility where we've fallen short is a proper attribute. Being treated badly because someone else behaved poorly is not justifiable though.
@ruddywashington6502 There are unscrupulous persons in every system and in every place. Accepting that every African should be treated as a ''criminal'' is just as bad as the people executing these biases. That you can actually iterate this point as an African is truly worrying to me at many levels. I fear how many of us have this your mindset already that ''they treat us bad because we are all bad''.
Gentleman, I know you mean well, but the system works perfectly as it is intended to. It is intended to make it easier for other „white adjacent“ countries and hard for „black“ countries. It’s not discrimination, it is political and genetic preference. If you can’t understand it from this viewpoint, you’ll find it hard to understand many things. 🙏🏽
@godfreyassenga9958, I do see a lot of such biases and I understand that they exist. Despite this, I have to survive and still carve out a path for myself. I know the viewpoint :( I do not accept the system as it is though. That is why I am starting to point out what I think needs pointing out. If we just accept everything as is, change will never come. I am trying my little bit.
@godfreyassenga9958 Crawling through and making it at a global scale being black is extra hard. The sad thing is that it is intentionally made so. What a system we live in
@@renwithnumbers I‘m in Germany also. NRW. What i‘m trying to say is.. the change you seek is for you to change your homeland. I’m serious. They don’t need this change that you advocate for in Europe. It can’t even pass through- what you advocate for is a loss to their system- so it’s not possible. They see us being here as a privilege, so trying to push for what African families to travel to Germany is not viable- to be honest I don’t like immigration- so even I don’t support your viewpoint. If I were them, I would even make it harder- But I think it is okay as it is. The UK is crazy right now- Germany is still a bit better.
@@godfreyassenga9958 Your point sounds like Africans came and messed up the UK. I find that hard to accept. If the system needs my expertise and I opt to offer this, then it MUST be made easy for my family to be with me while I live and work here. The policymakers will never say that being here is a privilege. This might just be a mindset and I definitely, definitely do not see it as a privilege.
@jimmybondy9450, Going somewhere else is always an option. Not travelling out of your country is always an option as well. But you would be very short-sighted to think that every project can be achieved anywhere. There is a reason why the German government is putting in so much effort to attract and keep skilled professionals in their economy. Also, just moving somewhere else does not make the system right. Even if it does not affect someone somewhere else, some people will still endure the disrespect. So pointing out these flaws is necessary in my opinion.
@@renwithnumbers well sure, I guess every system has it's flaws. It is hard to understand they look for skilled people and then come up with all that. But it's their country, their rules. 🤷
@@jimmybondy9450 well, one could just sit back and accept things as they are or demand for improvement of the systems. When you pay taxes to a government, taking that government to task is very normal. I cannot just say 'their country, their rules' because I pay taxes to that government.
It is really sad. Decriminalisation everywhere.
Student visas, schengen visa, everything. The demands from africans if always ridiculous in comparison to everywhere else. Try inviting a family member from Africa. The system is intentionally way more painful, worse so for Africans.
After pointing out the situation, which no reasonable person would want, the next logical step is to make it clear to more people and start trying to change the system.
A daunting task but we've got to try this.
@@renwithnumbers Let's do this 🤝
YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT MY BROTHER.
THAT IS EXACTLY THE CASE WITH ME NOW IN NIGERIA. I HAD TO DO MINE IN BENIN REPUBLIC
@josephewurum2017 It is experiences just like yours that I am talking about. I am surprised to receive so much pushback from people who are Africans who either haven't experienced these crazy biases or who just have no eyes to look at what happens.
Was Benin better off when you applied there? Did they grant you the visa?
I wish you the best, brother.
@@renwithnumbers they are either ignorant or have chosen to always lick the white man's ass.
I have a German child in Germany and am married to a German. But I went through all these without even considering my German family. All because of my nationality 😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@renwithnumbers Benin was heaven on earth for me. I got an appointment within 2 weeks and I have gone for my interview since a month now. I am yet to get my visa, but I see light at the end of the tunnel 🙏
I've been through hell bro
@@josephewurum2017 I'm very glad to hear you are making some progress there.
This always boggle my mind when you use the same documents in a different country and get completely different results. This is why I keep saying that there is intentional bias against certain people.
I pray the process works faster for you hence.
@@renwithnumbers Even the so called 6 Months verification they do in Nigeria, was never done in Benin Republic. The German embassy in Nigeria is the most useless embassy I've ever seen.
After more than 20years in Germany/Europe I can only say that we Africans are also responsible for what is happening to us. Back in 2003 my process for Student visa took me 3 weeks but then we started making fraud and now we're earning the result.
@janairo1883 Taking responsibility where we've fallen short is a proper attribute. Being treated badly because someone else behaved poorly is not justifiable though.
@@janairo1883 this is crazy. Accepting then that we all be treated as fraudulent?
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As one that lives here I can say the system was ok til we African started playing games with the people system. Beni people knows what I am saying
@ruddywashington6502
There are unscrupulous persons in every system and in every place. Accepting that every African should be treated as a ''criminal'' is just as bad as the people executing these biases.
That you can actually iterate this point as an African is truly worrying to me at many levels. I fear how many of us have this your mindset already that ''they treat us bad because we are all bad''.
@ruddywashington6502
Are you saying that Africans deserve to be treated this way?
Gentleman, I know you mean well, but the system works perfectly as it is intended to. It is intended to make it easier for other „white adjacent“ countries and hard for „black“ countries. It’s not discrimination, it is political and genetic preference. If you can’t understand it from this viewpoint, you’ll find it hard to understand many things. 🙏🏽
@godfreyassenga9958,
I do see a lot of such biases and I understand that they exist. Despite this, I have to survive and still carve out a path for myself. I know the viewpoint :(
I do not accept the system as it is though. That is why I am starting to point out what I think needs pointing out. If we just accept everything as is, change will never come. I am trying my little bit.
@godfreyassenga9958
Crawling through and making it at a global scale being black is extra hard. The sad thing is that it is intentionally made so. What a system we live in
@@renwithnumbers I‘m in Germany also. NRW. What i‘m trying to say is.. the change you seek is for you to change your homeland. I’m serious. They don’t need this change that you advocate for in Europe. It can’t even pass through- what you advocate for is a loss to their system- so it’s not possible. They see us being here as a privilege, so trying to push for what African families to travel to Germany is not viable- to be honest I don’t like immigration- so even I don’t support your viewpoint. If I were them, I would even make it harder- But I think it is okay as it is. The UK is crazy right now- Germany is still a bit better.
@@godfreyassenga9958 Your point sounds like Africans came and messed up the UK. I find that hard to accept.
If the system needs my expertise and I opt to offer this, then it MUST be made easy for my family to be with me while I live and work here.
The policymakers will never say that being here is a privilege. This might just be a mindset and I definitely, definitely do not see it as a privilege.
Can you check the data for Africans from the North muslim countries, from east Africa and South Africa and then lets have a proper debate ?
@mwanafalsafa3613 A debate? I didn't I was having a debate with you.
How long does a family reunion visa take for Tunisians?
I hear a lot of "you have to" but that's not true. You can always go somewhere else where "you don't have to".
@jimmybondy9450, Going somewhere else is always an option. Not travelling out of your country is always an option as well. But you would be very short-sighted to think that every project can be achieved anywhere. There is a reason why the German government is putting in so much effort to attract and keep skilled professionals in their economy.
Also, just moving somewhere else does not make the system right. Even if it does not affect someone somewhere else, some people will still endure the disrespect. So pointing out these flaws is necessary in my opinion.
@@renwithnumbers well sure, I guess every system has it's flaws. It is hard to understand they look for skilled people and then come up with all that.
But it's their country, their rules. 🤷
@@jimmybondy9450 well, one could just sit back and accept things as they are or demand for improvement of the systems.
When you pay taxes to a government, taking that government to task is very normal. I cannot just say 'their country, their rules' because I pay taxes to that government.
I suspect that you mean to say I should not complain but either take it as it is or leave. Is this your point?
@@jimmybondy9450 If the flaws are not pointed out, they will never go away.