My advice is definitely do not attend Full Sail University or Academy of Art. I graduated from Full Sail with my Bachelors in Game Art. I learned more from TH-cam, udemy, pluralsight, and peers I made connections with via a maya tutorial channel that became a fb group.
I love love you guys, thank you for your insights, experiences, personal thoughts. Honestly listening to you guys is a luxury, getting to know about industry values , work ethics and cow boys. It's very exciting to here the pro side of work, which ultimately is the reflection to the younger audience. Stay blessed , stay awesome, always excited to here form you guys.
How would you approach the industry if you are self-taught artist? Internships and other "greenlight" programs are usually for students, but as self-taught you probably don't have that status.
Matej Kosovsky this, I'd love to see some answers to this other than "you cant" like, if you didn't had that opportunity in life, what's the best way to go into the industry if you have the necessary skills?
So most people actually dont go through internships or graduate schemes. Going in as a junior is the normal way. If you're self-taught, I dont see that as being at a disadvantage when applying to be honest. The most important part is your reel and thats what the studios are looking at the most. If your reel is better than the other applicants, your chances are great :) To be honest, I'm confident that my own job opportunities would've been similar if I hadn't gone to school. If I didnt get the internship, I would've just got a junior position instead. The internship only lasted for 2 months, and after that I got a regular junior position based on my reel.
I enjoy the industry talk, I've been training in 3D since 2002, initially, I was a 3D artist wanting to go into 3D modelling for animation. But went through another industry using 3D for event planning. I wanted a job at the time so I took it but I felt I wasted my time there instead of pursing 3D in Animations.
Most studios have moved to training their employees with attached schools, you could always try this route, often they give you internships after graduation, however be aware many studio have an incestuous atmosphere so expect politics (like any place of work) but in particular studios tend to have a very established old boys club "us vs them" mentality, I'd often advise against working in these types of environments, but hey you got to start somewhere.
Thanks Guys!, it's hard for me to express how useful I find this information. I mean, if indeed all of your tuts are super time-worthy, this is truly amazing. #keepitup!
I love F.N because there down to earth cool dudes!! I'm 34 and Im self educating myself on Zbrush. I'm still a very long way mastering it, but I'm sticking to it because I love it. Though, can only learning Zbrush is enough?? Or do I need to learn blender or Maya too!?!?!. Who's ever out there studying now, just take your time and know that if your working at it everyday, you will succeed.
If you want to get a job in the games or films industry, you will at some point need to learn maya or 3ds max. Part of the 3d pipeline for games will focus on retopology and UV mapping your highpoly model from zbrush. Zbrush can technically do those things, but it's a lot more intuitive to do it in Maya and a studio will always want to make things go faster and smoother
@@actionfighters thank you so much for answering the question. I'm thinking I wanna learn Maya for that reason, but before I actually learn Maya, I wanna stick with Zbrush for a while longer. Do you work in the industry?
@@winterramos4527 I wouldn't say I'm "In the Industry" but I am working on an Indie game as a 3D artist. Yeah you should work on whatever makes you feel comfortable and when your ready to learn Maya flipped normals has great tutorials on the 3D pipeline and retopology/UV mapping, honestly that's how i learned most of what I know now
8:35 wait wait...u said, hard skills was the important ones....i cant party, im disabled, and also my soft skills sucks as u can see 13:28 why tho? im aiming for gaming industry, i spent doing a cinematic entry for my character 2 days hahaha
Hey, I'm so happy you guys make those videos, they are so helpful! I was wondering if you guys are maybe considering to make a video on stuff which is important for production modeling? Maybe even basic stuff like: should you scale/rotate in Object Mode, Freeze Transformations, what to consider when making UV's, what shells to put in one UDIM etc. Just basic stuff, because honestly they don't teach that stuff at uni (at least not at mine...) and even if I'm creating a really nice looking model I wouldn't know if the way I bevel the edges is right or if I should scale it differently etc. A video about important things for a production ready model would be so awesome :)
just apply everywhere, literally EVERYWHERE, go to places like EGX, talk to their recruiters and talk to them through email, thats what landed me my first job and now my second within the industry, I graduated last september, portfolio is the main thing though. Definately add little pointers in your portfolio images such as tri count etc, add wireframe, show that clean geo as thats what they want to see too
i guess its not for everyone then Must be a LOCAL NATIONAL eligible to work in the location you select. Must NOT require any immigration VISA’s to legally work in the country you select. Must NOT require sponsorship from a Studio to legally work in the country you select.
Really all you need is a really good portfolio and sky's the limit but I understand that getting there might be a challenge , I'm a 3D student about to graduate from Canada , there's a market for jobs but I don't have the portfolio for it yet ..
your very right, i send my resume and email effortlessly, thank you guys for sharing your insight. this is very helpful for me because i'm a confuse artist because i cant find a job. also thanks for sharing the rookie site. hope i can thank the people talking on the videos :) more powers!
I don't know if you guys will reply to this but I am very confused about whether joining some school or university is a good path or one can also go on their own e.g practicing on their own by finding projects through net and all instead of going to some school because I have been doing some practice over 3D rendering and not very complex just renders like interior rendering or product rendering (that's all) and so with what I have been practicing is it enough to go through internships or do any jobs?
Hey! We have a long discussion on schools in the video below which you might find to be useful. th-cam.com/video/IktDqaS-ZV0/w-d-xo.html The key thing about going to school is to really avoid the debt trap. It's incredibly easy to get into $100,000 if youre not careful, as some of the schools, usually the ones who market the most, are pretty predatorial. If you go the self taught route, I'd recommend getting in touch with a local studio and then work your way up from there. Start maybe as an intern and work on your skills to get promoted. You can then jump to the bigger studios as you progress in your career. I hope this helps! /Henning
FlippedNormals I have just learnt so far interior renders and I feel like that is of no worth and so I feel like I have nowhere to go....I want to go for animation and I have made some with Cinema 4D and yesterday I saw both of your videos one with 3D softwares and other with which school should one go to so I decided to stop using Cinema 4d and start using 3DS Max but still the principle remains same for animation right and I am still not very good to make animations smooth enough to make it realistic...like I might get one thing right e.g lighting but then my animation always suffers because it always feels to me something is bad and it always demotivates me so I am so very confused and scared at the same time like whether I will be able to do any jobs at all or not
Animation is one of these areas which unfortunately is incredibly hard to learn by yourself. If you want to become an animator, I do actually recommend going to a school - but not necessarily a physical one. There are some really fantastic online animation schools which are probably better than most traditional schools. Check out these three: Animation Mentor, AnimSchool and iAnimate. They are generally considered the best online schools for animation. In regards to the tool, for animation it's way more about the core principles and way less about the tool. Hope this helps! :)
FlippedNormals just wanted to know is doing interior renders or practicing them will allow me to have jobs I mean should I keep on practicing because obviously in the end it's about getting jobs and the most I have done is interior renderings/product rendering so should I keep up to it or should I change to something else??
@@EnzedDev yea, it took me 2 months to find one. Its hard for beginners as I feel companies dont want to take the time to show newbies the ropes... It also depends on where you live I guess.. while searching you really really need to practice and get better though. Dont give up man, you will get it eventually!
I'm 15 and just started learning 3d modeling. Looking at all these reels are really intimidating and I don't know if I'm cut out for this kind of thing. I enjoy doing this thing on my own but i don't know if I could ever learn to work in a pipeline. I use blender but trying to learn Maya had been an uphill battle. Suggestions on what I should do. Should I quit blender to learn with "industry standard" software or is there a chance with blender?
Hey! Dont worry too much about the level needed to get into the field now. You're starting years and years before most of the people who's your age now. I was also 15 when I started and when I got to university, I had a big advantage as I'd been working with 3D for ages. At this age, I'd recommend just trying out a couple of different tools and see what you like to do. I wouldnt necessarily lock down on exactly what you want to do just yet, as it's a huge field. Blender for sure is a really good tool, but once you get more serious about getting a job in the field, you'll most likely have to switch to Maya. Best of luck to you! If you keep working hard at your age, you'll be rocking this industry hard in a few years :) /Henning
Ik its late but don't ignore blender as it will become a stronger tool later in game and VFX for its ability and price.And for Maya just do random stuff and look up tutorials like copying a image into 3D
hi, uche from Nigeria .I'd like you to run a procedure in creating a show reel ,I'm having a tough time creating a show reel for jobs in Artstation..oh by the way lovely channel
For Character Artists do you recommend just beauty renders or should we include the wire frames and map breakdowns? Are Marmoset viewers also good to include on our ArtStations?
These internships are mostly (or all of them) for students right? What about self taught 3d artists? Is there hope for us (if our skills is up to par ofc)?
Very well said... Can you please tell me some of the modeler's do Hard surface models by taking part to part reference images for very high poly models like hard surface Weapons, Vehicles, machinery prop's which includes nuts and bolts as well like where we need to fix them in the model like so... I mean, do we have any app's or website's to give us(3d artist's) clear references ??
Hey, i passed both animation and modelling assessment test and not an online interview this week, would I really need to provide a portfolio? And any tip on how internship goes? I'm really nervous sir
Hey, what about the students in India..!!? It will definitely be a tough thing no shift from India to London or Vancouver... and the other problem is we don't find any openings/vacancies for freshers here in India... every company needs a min experience of 2 yrs.. but how would we be an experienced artist without a job at fresher level..!!!!
hello and thank you for your helpful video . i have a question : im a Self-taught 3d artist and i dont have a degree and i live in iran , i was wondering if i could get an internship in an other country ? i work with zbrush - 3d max - photoshop - substance painter
Hey! I honesty have no idea regarding the visa situation between countries like the UK and Iran, so I cant help much there. That said, from a pure skill point of view, the studios dont care about where you're from. We hire people from all over the world. I used to work with an incredibly talented Iranian artist back 10 years ago in Norway. /Henning
Great video like always guys thank you. I graduated about a year ago as a 3D character artist and I'm still trying to break into the industry. I've recently been branching out trying to learn different programs because I don't want to be seen as a Zbrush Cowboy. If you have a chance would you guys mind if I sent you my portfolio for feedback? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks :) Keep up the awesome videos!
Horrible! Everyone in my class not already working in some capacity in the 3D, never got a job. The educational curriculum was HORRIBLE. 4 weeks for each class, barely enough time to cover anything. Most instructors advised to google everything, unwilling to teach. $75k, worthless degree as real regional accredited universities don't recognize the degree, so I cannot continue my education, e.g. get a masters in business, etc. When I went to a Gnomon meetup group, they were astonished that our Animation curriculum sped through the basic animation process stating, "You've got to learn to crawl before you can run, quite literally in animation." I of course laughed. I was also advised by LA Film school, sister to Fullshit, that they setup internships because they have a relationship with the area studios, and that's why THEIR curriculum is so tight and intensive, unlike Fullsail who doesn't support nor setup internships. In fact, when I went looking through the school I was advised that THEY had to approve it, but had nothing to do with internships. I graduated with honors, but it doesn't mean squat when you graduate without a reel. I've got hundreds of horror stories about that place as well as fellow students that have shared theirs with me. Many are whamboozled by the laser lights, or are the lucky few who are actually guided through and not told to google everything. Even their video tutorials are outdated. They are a for profit only school with little to no love unless you're a prodigy that they can ride on your coattails. I put everything into my projects and couldn't get answers from the very people I paid to teach me. Really sad.
Sean Lake I got my Associates Degree in game art in 2016 and my bachelors in October 2018. Literally everything you just described is how I feel. I wanted to learn Environment Art. Instead I get tossed into half baked classes 4 weeks long that barely cover anything or expects you to already be at an advanced level. Constantly told to turn to google or TH-cam. I leaned Maya on my own but I pretty much gave up on ever trying to pursue it further. I went through 4 years and I could barely use zbrush. I still don’t understand how to UV map any of my models. So mostly I just taught myself everything with udemy. Still don’t know what I’m doing. I still work on 3D in my spare time, but I’m still stuck ina shitty retail job with no real skills
Great. Would you mind to take a look once my reel are finished? I can give have so far, just to know if I have the right elements in it. I understand if its a no, as I can Imagine that you are busy seeing potentially 14 thousand reels through. :)
th-cam.com/video/uc91d0b7T00/w-d-xo.html Here is what I have so far. The first carshot it nearly done. And I will take the tutorial out. And improve on the Street picture. thinking about making a cam through from the car and to the point there the original picture takes over. I'm a little concerned if the reel with out the tutorial is to short? I have 3 models turntable without textures I can put in. to kinda get a little bit more time?
Thanks for the video. But what if i am an engineering graduate who hate his job and have learned 3d art on my own. Im definitely not a pro (more of an intermediate) but im willing to learn and can see my progress working with blender. Can i get an internship? Im also from middle east and there are not a lot of game or animation companies here to do internship so i have to move out but unfortunately it seems companies rarely sponsor for visa for some one like me who has no professional experience.
In commercials, there are a lot more positions for generalists. In film, the most generalist positions we have are usually in environments, where they can take a shot from start to finish.
Im not even sure if my work in my portfolio is good enough to do the reel with, its the only thing ive been missing, i have some really good work that stands out, but i just dont know.
@@winterramos4527 i have been improving my work when i can, and have been applying like crazy, i have a job in IT currently so its slowed me down considerably since i had graduated college alittle bit after that post, but havent gotten anything yet. I aint discouraged though, this is something im still going for.
Hey guys!! Thanks for the video!! Amazingg!! I helped me alot since im doing portfolio and studying in cgma, can i see your firdt demoreeel when you guys applied for the first job?? Please and thanks
Great video! I am currently a student and I would like to start from the game industry rather than the film industry (which you guys have explained a lot), as junior character design/modeller. 2 questions: - can you please give more info about the game industry? Websites like these but mainly focus on that? - is it possible to entry the industry as a junior character artist? The only junior positions I see around are more environment artist regarding modelling Thanks guys!
Can someone who is passionate about being a 3d artist in the industry go on to do an internship in video games or is it a requirement to be in a university
What if i just graduated this year march? i got back to my country after graduating to get the driving lesson, just got it few weeks ago, can i still get an internship?
Hi ! Thanks for this video ! Just before, I saw DNeg's instagram post about the internship. I had so much questions in my head and then I saw your video! Perfect timing. I have a question : Do you recommend going to a VFX studio in order to ask questions ? As a VFX student, I want to ask things like "what are you expecting to see in a VFX artist's portfolio?" I was wondering if it's ok to do it or is it just weird?
Do you mean physically coming to the studio to ask a question? Not a whole lot of point in that, as you'll only get as far as the reception, and they cant help you much. Definitely reach out to people over email or LinkedIn instead :) /H
Lovely stuff. One question, where does a Blender wizard fit inside all this "getting a job in the industry" tbing? Or do i have to learn the pipeline softwares to get through?
We highly recommend that you learn the main tool the company you want to work for uses, probably Maya. Blender is great, but Maya is used a lot more professionally.
Hey :) if you have a second, I had a question... I am learning modeling just from courses on Udemy so I really don't have a formal education... Would a studio still consider hiring me without a degree?
It depends on the job you want to do. Environment artists should know either Maya, Max, or Blender as their main software. Then on top of that they should learn to work with UE4, Photoshop, Substance Painter, and Zbrush. Character artists are similar but it also good for them to learn Marvelous Designer as well. But there are many other programs that can be useful to some people as well like Substance Designer and Houdini. I would pick what job you want to do and then look at/ask what people who already do this job for a living are using if you're not sure.
@@Deletethis1 I want to be a environment artists and am 15 been doing 3D for about a year trying to build a portfolio I’ve tried out zbrush and made some stuff aswell. My main program right now is c4d and I’m trying to switch to either maya or blender honestly I know nothing about either what do you think would be better to learn.
@@milobrooks8891 A lot of places are switching to Blender Some smaller studios only use Maya. It doesn't matter which you choose. A lot of people pick blender because it's free. It's what I've always used and a lot of others in the industry do too. But it really is up to you. You can get a job using either one. For environments make sure that you show modularity in your environments. That is something I never did in my portfolio and it made it much more difficult for me. In the actual job you don't get to sit there making each asset by hand usually. Its all about designing things in a modular way and making detail with vertex painting/decals. Be sure to pick a style and go for that style. If you go sortve for realism but sortve stylized then you're going to be in a weird in between where you're not useful to either even if you're good. The best advice I can ever give you is that you're only as good as your references. Make sure you plan out what you want things to look like. And don't be afraid of getting critiques. Getting feedback and using it to make things better is how you will get better.
what is the biggest company your talking about if its not Disney?. im almost graduating and im scared if i wont get a job like i dont have any clue of what to do because every company wants like 2 yrs or 3 yrs of exp i dont have that so what will i do?
i am 26 years old. I discovered recently 3D software and the amazing possibilities. Is it too late to learn that and find a job? take it a long time to learn these skills? I started too learn blender but i am just a beginner.
Just stay motivated. And learn everyday! I’m 24 just started learning 3D but I’m pushing and staying focused to build my skills and portfolio. I recommend trying to figure out what area of 3D you like/prefer & really start focusing in on that. It is also good to know programs that are currently being used in the industry! If you are a student you’ll be able to get most of the high end programs for free. I am also starting with Blender, but I feel it is important to learn Maya. Check out indeed and search for 3D jobs and see what the requirements are :) hope you keep pushing through!
Nobody wants to work with someone who has a repellent personality, even if they are ace. It might sound silly but taking an interpersonal communication class could be very valuable in the long run if you're someone who has difficulty interacting with others.
i want to do internship but i am not able to find any internship in delhi or India, anyone have any information regarding this please let me know, i am ready to move in any location in India, Thank you
This really depends on what kind of work you want. If you want to be an environmental artist, put environmental work in it. Same for characters, rigging, etc. I'd recommend that you keep your reel to a 1-1.5 minutes and not draw it out too far, so maybe 4 pieces or so. Quality over quantity here - and make sure that every piece shows a different skill set or a variation on a skillset. Doing 4 rocks with slight variations doesnt have much of a point. /H
amazing Inspiration. i am a student of Arena Animation and right now. I am learning 3ds max after that Maya and zbrush. So i need a guide for 3d jobs, I am from India and i don't think here are many studios who give me best inter or Job likes Industry. I am really confused in my own way plz help me sir..
My advice is definitely do not attend Full Sail University or Academy of Art. I graduated from Full Sail with my Bachelors in Game Art. I learned more from TH-cam, udemy, pluralsight, and peers I made connections with via a maya tutorial channel that became a fb group.
Did u got job??
Tushar hegde Not in games lmao
But all the companies hire only student for the intership....
Same goes for Hanze UAS, haha
Same boat, had a job making indie games for a year and have been out of work for a year. Total waste of money
I love love you guys, thank you for your insights, experiences, personal thoughts. Honestly listening to you guys is a luxury, getting to know about industry values , work ethics and cow boys. It's very exciting to here the pro side of work, which ultimately is the reflection to the younger audience. Stay blessed , stay awesome, always excited to here form you guys.
How would you approach the industry if you are self-taught artist? Internships and other "greenlight" programs are usually for students, but as self-taught you probably don't have that status.
Matej Kosovsky this, I'd love to see some answers to this other than "you cant" like, if you didn't had that opportunity in life, what's the best way to go into the industry if you have the necessary skills?
So most people actually dont go through internships or graduate schemes. Going in as a junior is the normal way. If you're self-taught, I dont see that as being at a disadvantage when applying to be honest. The most important part is your reel and thats what the studios are looking at the most. If your reel is better than the other applicants, your chances are great :)
To be honest, I'm confident that my own job opportunities would've been similar if I hadn't gone to school. If I didnt get the internship, I would've just got a junior position instead. The internship only lasted for 2 months, and after that I got a regular junior position based on my reel.
FlippedNormals that's awesome to hear, thanks!
Thanks for the answer. I want to share my reel here, hoping to get some feedback from anyone: vimeo.com/260882560 .
th-cam.com/video/Y7LLPgpyiec/w-d-xo.html
Hey guys, would be interesting to show what work you guys showed to land your first jobs. Could be a cool video idea.
Good idea! Adding to our list. This was my personal reel which I got into the field with in 2014.
vimeo.com/89019210
/Henning
I love the zombie in the room (That’s my favorite style) and beautiful topology by the way.
@@FlippedNormals Dead link, could you reupload it?
Is there an updated link?
@@FlippedNormals dead link :( could you update it plss?
I enjoy the industry talk, I've been training in 3D since 2002, initially, I was a 3D artist wanting to go into 3D modelling for animation. But went through another industry using 3D for event planning. I wanted a job at the time so I took it but I felt I wasted my time there instead of pursing 3D in Animations.
Where did you do 3D for event planning?? I'm very intered in that!!!
Right on time again! Finishing up classes and will start on my ArtStation Portfolio IMMEDIATELY!!
Awesome! Best of luck!
Been waiting for this
Most studios have moved to training their employees with attached schools, you could always try this route, often they give you internships after graduation, however be aware many studio have an incestuous atmosphere so expect politics (like any place of work) but in particular studios tend to have a very established old boys club "us vs them" mentality, I'd often advise against working in these types of environments, but hey you got to start somewhere.
Thanks Guys!, it's hard for me to express how useful I find this information. I mean, if indeed all of your tuts are super time-worthy, this is truly amazing. #keepitup!
Watching this at my first studio- a week after internship- got the job.
where was the internship?
I love F.N because there down to earth cool dudes!! I'm 34 and Im self educating myself on Zbrush. I'm still a very long way mastering it, but I'm sticking to it because I love it. Though, can only learning Zbrush is enough?? Or do I need to learn blender or Maya too!?!?!.
Who's ever out there studying now, just take your time and know that if your working at it everyday, you will succeed.
If you want to get a job in the games or films industry, you will at some point need to learn maya or 3ds max. Part of the 3d pipeline for games will focus on retopology and UV mapping your highpoly model from zbrush. Zbrush can technically do those things, but it's a lot more intuitive to do it in Maya and a studio will always want to make things go faster and smoother
@@actionfighters thank you so much for answering the question. I'm thinking I wanna learn Maya for that reason, but before I actually learn Maya, I wanna stick with Zbrush for a while longer. Do you work in the industry?
@@winterramos4527 I wouldn't say I'm "In the Industry" but I am working on an Indie game as a 3D artist. Yeah you should work on whatever makes you feel comfortable and when your ready to learn Maya flipped normals has great tutorials on the 3D pipeline and retopology/UV mapping, honestly that's how i learned most of what I know now
8:35 wait wait...u said, hard skills was the important ones....i cant party, im disabled, and also my soft skills sucks as u can see
13:28 why tho? im aiming for gaming industry, i spent doing a cinematic entry for my character 2 days hahaha
Hey, I'm so happy you guys make those videos, they are so helpful! I was wondering if you guys are maybe considering to make a video on stuff which is important for production modeling? Maybe even basic stuff like: should you scale/rotate in Object Mode, Freeze Transformations, what to consider when making UV's, what shells to put in one UDIM etc. Just basic stuff, because honestly they don't teach that stuff at uni (at least not at mine...) and even if I'm creating a really nice looking model I wouldn't know if the way I bevel the edges is right or if I should scale it differently etc. A video about important things for a production ready model would be so awesome :)
Can you guys link a good cv for 3d artist? Should i just add writing information or adding images from the portfolio as well?
Would love to see that aswell!
Good idea! I'll see if I can dig up one.
/H
Rasmus Rikken Same here, I was about to ask the same thing. Nice video btw.
just apply everywhere, literally EVERYWHERE, go to places like EGX, talk to their recruiters and talk to them through email, thats what landed me my first job and now my second within the industry, I graduated last september, portfolio is the main thing though. Definately add little pointers in your portfolio images such as tri count etc, add wireframe, show that clean geo as thats what they want to see too
Look at the portfolio or website from the student of think thank training center, maybe you'll find their CV's
Thanks for all the information guys, I really enjoy these video's Keep up the great work.
greetings from The Netherlands
i guess its not for everyone then
Must be a LOCAL NATIONAL eligible to work in the location you select.
Must NOT require any immigration VISA’s to legally work in the country you select.
Must NOT require sponsorship from a Studio to legally work in the country you select.
Networking.. I bet I'm not the only loner that had an allergic reaction hearing that lol..
Watching this video made my anxiety level skyrocket. Most of the suggestions don't work for me as I'm in Asia
Really all you need is a really good portfolio and sky's the limit but I understand that getting there might be a challenge , I'm a 3D student about to graduate from Canada , there's a market for jobs but I don't have the portfolio for it yet ..
your very right, i send my resume and email effortlessly, thank you guys for sharing your insight. this is very helpful for me because i'm a confuse artist because i cant find a job. also thanks for sharing the rookie site. hope i can thank the people talking on the videos :) more powers!
Thank you so much! I'm really glad it helped. Best of luck to you in your journey :)
/Henning
Thank you guys! This is motivating me to keep cracking away at those Jr Positions, it's been hard finding them here in Austin TX
Best of luck!
I still trying to find a 3d artist job. It is hard to find 3d job. Hope I can get my 3d artist job soon.
"networking required"
guess im out.
Im following, lol
Thank you very much for all the tips and interesting informations!
Perfect timing! Just trying to get a placement for my uni course 3rd year atm
fuck, i got into the art industry cause i thought i wouldnt have to force myself to interact w/ other people when i dont need to
suffering 100%
Thank you for going into great detail about this subject.
Great video with lots of tips on internships, thank you!
Cheers dude! Best of luck with yours.
/H
Thanks guys, very good information. Will be implementing it
Great, thank you. Best of luck!
Thx guys for that amazing video, so much informations!!!
Note taken ;;
I don't know if you guys will reply to this but I am very confused about whether joining some school or university is a good path or one can also go on their own e.g practicing on their own by finding projects through net and all instead of going to some school because I have been doing some practice over 3D rendering and not very complex just renders like interior rendering or product rendering (that's all) and so with what I have been practicing is it enough to go through internships or do any jobs?
Hey! We have a long discussion on schools in the video below which you might find to be useful.
th-cam.com/video/IktDqaS-ZV0/w-d-xo.html
The key thing about going to school is to really avoid the debt trap. It's incredibly easy to get into $100,000 if youre not careful, as some of the schools, usually the ones who market the most, are pretty predatorial.
If you go the self taught route, I'd recommend getting in touch with a local studio and then work your way up from there. Start maybe as an intern and work on your skills to get promoted. You can then jump to the bigger studios as you progress in your career.
I hope this helps!
/Henning
FlippedNormals I have just learnt so far interior renders and I feel like that is of no worth and so I feel like I have nowhere to go....I want to go for animation and I have made some with Cinema 4D and yesterday I saw both of your videos one with 3D softwares and other with which school should one go to so I decided to stop using Cinema 4d and start using 3DS Max but still the principle remains same for animation right and I am still not very good to make animations smooth enough to make it realistic...like I might get one thing right e.g lighting but then my animation always suffers because it always feels to me something is bad and it always demotivates me so I am so very confused and scared at the same time like whether I will be able to do any jobs at all or not
Animation is one of these areas which unfortunately is incredibly hard to learn by yourself. If you want to become an animator, I do actually recommend going to a school - but not necessarily a physical one. There are some really fantastic online animation schools which are probably better than most traditional schools.
Check out these three: Animation Mentor, AnimSchool and iAnimate. They are generally considered the best online schools for animation.
In regards to the tool, for animation it's way more about the core principles and way less about the tool.
Hope this helps! :)
FlippedNormals just wanted to know is doing interior renders or practicing them will allow me to have jobs I mean should I keep on practicing because obviously in the end it's about getting jobs and the most I have done is interior renderings/product rendering so should I keep up to it or should I change to something else??
Im almost done with 3d school, a little less than 2 months remaining. Im getting super stressed about finding a job....
You are not alone, I fear I too will end up nowhere. I do hope you find something, stay strong friend!
did you end up finding a job? its been 2 years for me and all i got was a 1 week job teaching a kid how to animate... ive givin up
@@EnzedDev yea, it took me 2 months to find one. Its hard for beginners as I feel companies dont want to take the time to show newbies the ropes... It also depends on where you live I guess.. while searching you really really need to practice and get better though. Dont give up man, you will get it eventually!
Thanks for this video, keep up the good work
Thanks guys for the awesome guide...
Hell yeah man... thanx for this
I'm 15 and just started learning 3d modeling. Looking at all these reels are really intimidating and I don't know if I'm cut out for this kind of thing. I enjoy doing this thing on my own but i don't know if I could ever learn to work in a pipeline. I use blender but trying to learn Maya had been an uphill battle. Suggestions on what I should do. Should I quit blender to learn with "industry standard" software or is there a chance with blender?
Hey! Dont worry too much about the level needed to get into the field now. You're starting years and years before most of the people who's your age now. I was also 15 when I started and when I got to university, I had a big advantage as I'd been working with 3D for ages. At this age, I'd recommend just trying out a couple of different tools and see what you like to do. I wouldnt necessarily lock down on exactly what you want to do just yet, as it's a huge field.
Blender for sure is a really good tool, but once you get more serious about getting a job in the field, you'll most likely have to switch to Maya.
Best of luck to you! If you keep working hard at your age, you'll be rocking this industry hard in a few years :)
/Henning
A lot of people will say "its not the artist, its the tool!" But i'd advise against learning blender, as close to 0 studios use it.
Ik its late but don't ignore blender as it will become a stronger tool later in game and VFX for its ability and price.And for Maya just do random stuff and look up tutorials like copying a image into 3D
hi, uche from Nigeria .I'd like you to run a procedure in creating a show reel ,I'm having a tough time creating a show reel for jobs in Artstation..oh by the way lovely channel
For Character Artists do you recommend just beauty renders or should we include the wire frames and map breakdowns? Are Marmoset viewers also good to include on our ArtStations?
Wires and maps are definitely useful :) It gives us more ways to evaluate the work. Sure - marmoset viewers are great too!
love the upload rate
thank you ! That's a lot of good advices
Your channel is great!
Thanks a lot!
This is great and all. But what i need to worry is if im good enough to be a juniour artist even though u can do the entire 3d modelling workflow
Its funny because its my second day of my internship. And lucky for you had a accommodation! Btw where can i follow you and find this as a podcast?
is there any posibility to get more advice for non students, i mean for more mature persons.
I'm a 3d generalist but specialize in modeling unfortunately those are always the first ones to go
These internships are mostly (or all of them) for students right?
What about self taught 3d artists? Is there hope for us (if our skills is up to par ofc)?
That's what I was wondering. It's been over a year since I graduated and most internships are for current students or within one year of graduation.
Very well said... Can you please tell me some of the modeler's do Hard surface models by taking part to part reference images for very high poly models like hard surface Weapons, Vehicles, machinery prop's which includes nuts and bolts as well like where we need to fix them in the model like so... I mean, do we have any app's or website's to give us(3d artist's) clear references ??
Hey, i passed both animation and modelling assessment test and not an online interview this week, would I really need to provide a portfolio? And any tip on how internship goes? I'm really nervous sir
Im learning by youtube, udemy, yiihuu. No school here in mexico )=. I hope i can make something one day.
Hey, what about the students in India..!!? It will definitely be a tough thing no shift from India to London or Vancouver... and the other problem is we don't find any openings/vacancies for freshers here in India... every company needs a min experience of 2 yrs.. but how would we be an experienced artist without a job at fresher level..!!!!
Nice video and good discussion :)
Will companies take internships of 3D artists who are self study?
Yup!
FlippedNormals love that
hello and thank you for your helpful video . i have a question :
im a Self-taught 3d artist and i dont have a degree and i live in iran , i was wondering if i could get an internship in an other country ? i work with zbrush - 3d max - photoshop - substance painter
Hey! I honesty have no idea regarding the visa situation between countries like the UK and Iran, so I cant help much there. That said, from a pure skill point of view, the studios dont care about where you're from. We hire people from all over the world. I used to work with an incredibly talented Iranian artist back 10 years ago in Norway.
/Henning
Would you say in comparison to most that you should be truthful on your resume or to hr at all?
Thanks for the video ! :D
Great video like always guys thank you. I graduated about a year ago as a 3D character artist and I'm still trying to break into the industry. I've recently been branching out trying to learn different programs because I don't want to be seen as a Zbrush Cowboy. If you have a chance would you guys mind if I sent you my portfolio for feedback? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks :) Keep up the awesome videos!
I graduated from Full Sail's online 2014 in August.
How was that? I've heard mixed things about Full Sail.
Horrible! Everyone in my class not already working in some capacity in the 3D, never got a job. The educational curriculum was HORRIBLE. 4 weeks for each class, barely enough time to cover anything. Most instructors advised to google everything, unwilling to teach. $75k, worthless degree as real regional accredited universities don't recognize the degree, so I cannot continue my education, e.g. get a masters in business, etc. When I went to a Gnomon meetup group, they were astonished that our Animation curriculum sped through the basic animation process stating, "You've got to learn to crawl before you can run, quite literally in animation." I of course laughed.
I was also advised by LA Film school, sister to Fullshit, that they setup internships because they have a relationship with the area studios, and that's why THEIR curriculum is so tight and intensive, unlike Fullsail who doesn't support nor setup internships. In fact, when I went looking through the school I was advised that THEY had to approve it, but had nothing to do with internships. I graduated with honors, but it doesn't mean squat when you graduate without a reel. I've got hundreds of horror stories about that place as well as fellow students that have shared theirs with me. Many are whamboozled by the laser lights, or are the lucky few who are actually guided through and not told to google everything. Even their video tutorials are outdated. They are a for profit only school with little to no love unless you're a prodigy that they can ride on your coattails.
I put everything into my projects and couldn't get answers from the very people I paid to teach me. Really sad.
Sean Lake I got my Associates Degree in game art in 2016 and my bachelors in October 2018. Literally everything you just described is how I feel. I wanted to learn Environment Art. Instead I get tossed into half baked classes 4 weeks long that barely cover anything or expects you to already be at an advanced level. Constantly told to turn to google or TH-cam. I leaned Maya on my own but I pretty much gave up on ever trying to pursue it further. I went through 4 years and I could barely use zbrush. I still don’t understand how to UV map any of my models. So mostly I just taught myself everything with udemy. Still don’t know what I’m doing. I still work on 3D in my spare time, but I’m still stuck ina shitty retail job with no real skills
I need a project 3d scanned and redesigned for 3d print. Mostly Sculpting
Who can I hire for that?
Does age mean anything? I'm 38 graduated almost 2 years ago.? Or do they not care about that sort of things?
I havent experienced any cases where age has mattered at all :)
Great. Would you mind to take a look once my reel are finished? I can give have so far, just to know if I have the right elements in it. I understand if its a no, as I can Imagine that you are busy seeing potentially 14 thousand reels through. :)
Sure, send it over!
th-cam.com/video/uc91d0b7T00/w-d-xo.html Here is what I have so far. The first carshot it nearly done. And I will take the tutorial out. And improve on the Street picture. thinking about making a cam through from the car and to the point there the original picture takes over. I'm a little concerned if the reel with out the tutorial is to short? I have 3 models turntable without textures I can put in. to kinda get a little bit more time?
@@SneakersDK did you land a job Jimmi?? I'm 34 and I'm self educating myself with only Zbrush
Thanks for the video. But what if i am an engineering graduate who hate his job and have learned 3d art on my own. Im definitely not a pro (more of an intermediate) but im willing to learn and can see my progress working with blender. Can i get an internship? Im also from middle east and there are not a lot of game or animation companies here to do internship so i have to move out but unfortunately it seems companies rarely sponsor for visa for some one like me who has no professional experience.
How is the job market for 3D generalists? Is there any type of jobs where you do everything from modeling and texturing to rendering?
In commercials, there are a lot more positions for generalists. In film, the most generalist positions we have are usually in environments, where they can take a shot from start to finish.
Great advice!!
Thank you for the videos!
You're welcome!
Im not even sure if my work in my portfolio is good enough to do the reel with, its the only thing ive been missing, i have some really good work that stands out, but i just dont know.
I hope you finally showed that reel and got yourself a career now after 2years..
@@winterramos4527 i have been improving my work when i can, and have been applying like crazy, i have a job in IT currently so its slowed me down considerably since i had graduated college alittle bit after that post, but havent gotten anything yet.
I aint discouraged though, this is something im still going for.
Hey guys!! Thanks for the video!! Amazingg!! I helped me alot since im doing portfolio and studying in cgma, can i see your firdt demoreeel when you guys applied for the first job?? Please and thanks
Great video! I am currently a student and I would like to start from the game industry rather than the film industry (which you guys have explained a lot), as junior character design/modeller.
2 questions:
- can you please give more info about the game industry? Websites like these but mainly focus on that?
- is it possible to entry the industry as a junior character artist? The only junior positions I see around are more environment artist regarding modelling
Thanks guys!
Can someone who is passionate about being a 3d artist in the industry go on to do an internship in video games or is it a requirement to be in a university
Does a real have more value than a protofolio? I have a portfolio that I used to apply, can you check it out?
Are there more such studios in japan? I cant seem to find them.
What if i just graduated this year march? i got back to my country after graduating to get the driving lesson, just got it few weeks ago, can i still get an internship?
Hi ! Thanks for this video ! Just before, I saw DNeg's instagram post about the internship. I had so much questions in my head and then I saw your video! Perfect timing.
I have a question : Do you recommend going to a VFX studio in order to ask questions ? As a VFX student, I want to ask things like "what are you expecting to see in a VFX artist's portfolio?" I was wondering if it's ok to do it or is it just weird?
Do you mean physically coming to the studio to ask a question? Not a whole lot of point in that, as you'll only get as far as the reception, and they cant help you much. Definitely reach out to people over email or LinkedIn instead :)
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FlippedNormals Yum that's what I meant :) Thanks!
From where u both are graduated from and from which specific courses?
Lovely stuff. One question, where does a Blender wizard fit inside all this "getting a job in the industry" tbing? Or do i have to learn the pipeline softwares to get through?
We highly recommend that you learn the main tool the company you want to work for uses, probably Maya. Blender is great, but Maya is used a lot more professionally.
Hey :) if you have a second, I had a question... I am learning modeling just from courses on Udemy so I really don't have a formal education... Would a studio still consider hiring me without a degree?
Should I bother applying for the internships in my first year of should I wait for later?
Yes! Apply as often as you can. It's definitely useful to get as much experience as you can. Any 3D job is better than the alternative, to be honest.
Great Videos! Just subbed. Have either of you worked in VR?
Could you make a video about what 3D programs you should learn
It depends on the job you want to do. Environment artists should know either Maya, Max, or Blender as their main software. Then on top of that they should learn to work with UE4, Photoshop, Substance Painter, and Zbrush. Character artists are similar but it also good for them to learn Marvelous Designer as well. But there are many other programs that can be useful to some people as well like Substance Designer and Houdini. I would pick what job you want to do and then look at/ask what people who already do this job for a living are using if you're not sure.
@@Deletethis1 I want to be a environment artists and am 15 been doing 3D for about a year trying to build a portfolio I’ve tried out zbrush and made some stuff aswell. My main program right now is c4d and I’m trying to switch to either maya or blender honestly I know nothing about either what do you think would be better to learn.
@@milobrooks8891
A lot of places are switching to Blender Some smaller studios only use Maya. It doesn't matter which you choose. A lot of people pick blender because it's free. It's what I've always used and a lot of others in the industry do too. But it really is up to you. You can get a job using either one. For environments make sure that you show modularity in your environments. That is something I never did in my portfolio and it made it much more difficult for me. In the actual job you don't get to sit there making each asset by hand usually. Its all about designing things in a modular way and making detail with vertex painting/decals. Be sure to pick a style and go for that style. If you go sortve for realism but sortve stylized then you're going to be in a weird in between where you're not useful to either even if you're good. The best advice I can ever give you is that you're only as good as your references. Make sure you plan out what you want things to look like. And don't be afraid of getting critiques. Getting feedback and using it to make things better is how you will get better.
Hi guys, great video, thanks a lot, do I have to be a student to apply for a internship? Or it’s not mandatory?
Do you guys know anything why MPC in Vancouver shut down?
is Masters computer science degree sufficient for applying for a 3D Artist designation? or do you need like a arts or media degree?
They don't really care about your degree at all actually, only your portfolio.
what is the biggest company your talking about if its not Disney?.
im almost graduating and im scared if i wont get a job like i dont have any clue of what to do because every company wants like 2 yrs or 3 yrs of exp i dont have that so what will i do?
Pretty much all companies have entry level positions. Look for their Junior Roles :) It really boils down to your showreel and portfolio.
Dear I am 2d and 3d designer and I am looking for job offer do how I can get please suggest
Aw I'm going to school in Bournemouth! AUB
Lanna's Missing Link oh wow,, randomly scrolling through comments and spot a fellow aub-er!! 👀👀heck yeaH
@@threeninefour hah nice! You still studying or have you graduated? What course you in?
Lanna's Missing Link nah i’m still studying ! I do animation ! Hbu?
@@threeninefour awesome me too! I'm in VFX, going into my final year in September
@@LannasMissingLink Bournemouth in the uk?? How is it?? Maybe I'll go there lol
i am 26 years old. I discovered recently 3D software and the amazing possibilities. Is it too late to learn that and find a job? take it a long time to learn these skills? I started too learn blender but i am just a beginner.
Just stay motivated. And learn everyday! I’m 24 just started learning 3D but I’m pushing and staying focused to build my skills and portfolio. I recommend trying to figure out what area of 3D you like/prefer & really start focusing in on that. It is also good to know programs that are currently being used in the industry! If you are a student you’ll be able to get most of the high end programs for free. I am also starting with Blender, but I feel it is important to learn Maya. Check out indeed and search for 3D jobs and see what the requirements are :) hope you keep pushing through!
Not too late. It’s never too late
I really wish i found this video sooner
Hope it helps!
@@FlippedNormals It does, but I'm getting ready to graduate in a few months and wish I could have gotten an internship for 3d art while in school.
What if you're no good at networking or communicating? How sucessful are people who are no good at social interaction?
Like we're saying, the most important part of it all is your skill. Anything else is secondary. Make sure your skills are good and you'll be fine :)
Nobody wants to work with someone who has a repellent personality, even if they are ace. It might sound silly but taking an interpersonal communication class could be very valuable in the long run if you're someone who has difficulty interacting with others.
Taylor Brown im not talking about repellent personalities. Im talking about people with extreme social anxiety and/or autism.
You need networking, so if you’re not good at it, get good at pretending to be good at it.
i want to do internship but i am not able to find any internship in delhi or India, anyone have any information regarding this please let me know, i am ready to move in any location in India, Thank you
how much (minimum) should you put in you portfolio and what things should be in it
This really depends on what kind of work you want. If you want to be an environmental artist, put environmental work in it. Same for characters, rigging, etc.
I'd recommend that you keep your reel to a 1-1.5 minutes and not draw it out too far, so maybe 4 pieces or so. Quality over quantity here - and make sure that every piece shows a different skill set or a variation on a skillset. Doing 4 rocks with slight variations doesnt have much of a point.
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Are you two going to be at the FMX?
Nope, unfortunately not! Maybe in the future :)
Learning Linux!?
What is I didn't do any course but my 3d modelling is good coz my brother teach me everything so I get job or not ?
If your work is good, youre fine. No school needed
@@FlippedNormals thanks man
I got an intership as a minautures sculpture for some cool franchises but now my portfolio looks like I'm a zbrush cowgirl
Awesome! Thats the perfect place to be a ZBrush cow-girl
What are then best graphic design jobs that dont need a degree??
Honestly very few graphic design jobs needs a degree. It's all portfolio based
What is the typical duration of these internships?
2 months is quite normal
FlippedNormals not bad at all
GIMME!
Could users here please name the specific role they are/were applying for, and what are the companies they are/were applying to for those roles?
Thank you
amazing Inspiration.
i am a student of Arena Animation and right now.
I am learning 3ds max after that Maya and zbrush.
So i need a guide for 3d jobs, I am from India and i don't think here are many studios who give me best inter or Job likes Industry.
I am really confused in my own way plz help me sir..
Im also Arena student
Great!!!
Thanks Kamila!
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Reel-y?