Bring back petitions for judges rulings , make judges hold drivers at fault for not being full throttle , in car cameras even if only judges can see them to help with getting right calls
8th track: Laguna Seca HEAR ME OUT! Run uphill, initiation at the small right kink, down the corkscrew into the long left hand downhill and either stop there or somehow have like two inside clips manji into the right hander. fast into really slow, go fast again, go really fast and manage the tires at the end without losing proximity
@@jasonpickens9839 will he do well or just make excuses why he doesn't do well, underfunded team? She be drama anyway, outspoken lad like the latvian lover Bluss, a corporate sponsors dream he ain't! will he loose 20kgs?
@@cheekychaeI will say I like how close the cars were going wide on outside one, however they need to shave the rumble strips down or something. I’ve drifted the FD layout with my e36 and those rumble strips completely disrupt the car and are so hard to drive over
@@BigMoneyWaste yeah it did make for closer tandem but also lost the appeal of being fastest track of the year by slowing everyone down , they're all pros and would have got good tandem on old setup with time if they got to drive it more rather than change it I'm sure
@ all very true. I hope they move back to the year 2 layout. The full outer zone 2 was so sick. If they could somehow do both layouts, year 2 for pro and year 3 for prospec, I think that would be best. Let the pros be fast and wild, and let prospec get some closer tandems to make it more interesting. I know it’s impossible but it would be so cool
Seeding is great but they really need to do more to avoid bye runs. You should have to have a win to get to top 32. I get the appeal to be able to announce battles ahead of the event. The solution that works with that restriction is to match up those whose opponents don't run. In the case that there is an odd number then the highest ranked looser gets a second chance. Or skip the early announcement thing and draw the seeding bracket right before it starts.
@@alexsuttles7662 That's rather contradictory. Qualifying is essentially 40 bye runs. Which is way more boring. I've suggested a fix to the bye runs many times. The seeding wasn't great because the bottom 8 were not performing well. It's a skill issue, not a format issue.
@@keshkalleshh8329 That doesn't make sense. You still end up with the same drivers in the top 32. The bottom 8 have a bit more practice, so in theory, they have a better chance against their top 8 opponent than they would otherwise.
Kyle Mohan is running a turbo 4 rotor in his FD RX7. Rumors of Daigo Saito coming with a V8 Toyota. And that there are a few other Japan drivers coming over like Naoki Nakamura
Conor’s Shanahan has been pretty vocal about not enjoying how s chassis pro cars drive. His old s15 was 2j though so maybe a v8 s14 would be different for him. still a big risk to commit to it though incase he arrives in long beach and hates it.
The seeding bracket needs some change to ensure there's no planned Bye Runs in Top 32. Rank the seeding bracket competitors (break tie ranks based on prior event rank) and fill the open Top32 spots based on that ranking. That's the only thing that really needs a change. This at least gives the drivers who showed up a chance to get into Top 32 even if they get knocked out in the first battles of the seeding bracket. Top 32 bye runs should only happen if less than 32 drivers show up.
Tires will be interesting this year. Two brands out, several drivers looking who likely cannot afford to compete without a backed deal.. Look for driver numbers down, sadly.
The Outerzone x Maximum Drift x The Goodest Cast x Faction Motorsport x PileUp x Circle Of Drift mega podcast Also Litteral said he isnt using an LS, and his team Colab has a history with R35 GTR's so I'm going to say VR38DET in the S15.
I really want to see some ruling for nosing to have extreme proximity while ignoring mimicking . Connor and Hiroya are both prime examples that make it look exciting but are absolutely only worried about proximity with their cars front corner . That driving style creates issues for all other drivers and the lack of mimick is never frowned upon while defining a chase as just that .
There already is. It's called judging. It is perfectly legit to trade angle for proximity. Some prefer angle, some proximity. The best chases can do both. You're kidding yourself if you think he can only do one. Yes, he favours proximity when he has to choose but judges notice. As for putting off other drivers. You mean the chase putting off the lead? Good luck pulling that off.
Judged competition is stupid put sensors on the corners of the cars that measure angle and proximity to the other car and the zones then double the length of the race how does pro level competition have 3 transitions??? That would be like f1 doing 3 lap races and thinking that was sufficient for a good competition.
Unfortunately the power race will never end and with that, tires can only last so long. Already a few tracks that kill a pair by the end of a second run. Thought about being able to change tires after every run but it would be a logistical nightmare and tire sponsor nightmare
💯 maybe still have human judges but have one judge be AI with sensors. Hold the others to account. They have allowed the cars to be powerful. I'm with Odi, cars need detuning, then the tires will last longer.
FD happens around the same time of the Long Beach Grand Prix. Don’t think Formula Drift can get the city of Long Beach to close off their streets twice in a year.
Absolutely no chance. FD piggyback off the indycar track set up. The indycar race is the week after FD. Without an indycar race it would be too expensive to re-set up the track.
Should have some kind of penalty for lead cars sand bagging. If you can keep up with the pack average during a chase, and are seconds slower in your lead, penalty.
You really think they can sandbag these cars at this level? If you aren't on throttle, you are going to grip up. If they brake then it is already penalised.
Have an app at all rounds, individual to each round where the fans slide left or right for their winner, if there’s a OMT it goes to the fan vote, or maybe even have the fans as a 4th judge 🤔
Please bring back the runner up 3rd place battle!!!
I agree with this
yes please
Bring back petitions for judges rulings , make judges hold drivers at fault for not being full throttle , in car cameras even if only judges can see them to help with getting right calls
Big up on the in car cameras, other motorsports make it happen and it’s just the level people expect
Idk if they have the tech for this yet but make the viewers of the live stream a judge. Poll open for 30 secs after battle.
8th track: Laguna Seca HEAR ME OUT!
Run uphill, initiation at the small right kink, down the corkscrew into the long left hand downhill and either stop there or somehow have like two inside clips manji into the right hander.
fast into really slow, go fast again, go really fast and manage the tires at the end without losing proximity
I would love that
As much as Id love this you cant fit the amount of spectators in that section that FD wants.
@@cobratuner IDK there is a big hill that could fit a big grand stand at the top and lots of room near the bottom
Not the best set of corners from a drift comp perspective... But gat damn! It would look sick dropping off the corkscrew.
I feel like Laguna Secas tough sound restrictions would cause issues for an FD event.
Bring back protest the judges do get it wrong sometimes we even seen it in 24 season
Daigo Saito in a TRD Nascar powered 86, for Jerry Yang. Trust me.
diago likes to build his cars, usually a new one every year, i would be very surprised if he shows up driving someone elses car
Luke Fink in FD 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Shibby
And with the JD racing team! Let's see who the real fun havers are now 😋
@@jasonpickens9839 will he do well or just make excuses why he doesn't do well, underfunded team? She be drama anyway, outspoken lad like the latvian lover Bluss, a corporate sponsors dream he ain't! will he loose 20kgs?
Pull your head out of your behind ,it's Luke Fink, your comment is an intellectual pile of vomet .@@davidconnolly7427
I'm wicked excited for this season.
🤘
Change the Utah layout and everyone will be happy
Back to way it was before the rumble strips ? If so 100% agree
@@cheekychaeI will say I like how close the cars were going wide on outside one, however they need to shave the rumble strips down or something. I’ve drifted the FD layout with my e36 and those rumble strips completely disrupt the car and are so hard to drive over
@@BigMoneyWaste yeah it did make for closer tandem but also lost the appeal of being fastest track of the year by slowing everyone down , they're all pros and would have got good tandem on old setup with time if they got to drive it more rather than change it I'm sure
@ all very true. I hope they move back to the year 2 layout. The full outer zone 2 was so sick. If they could somehow do both layouts, year 2 for pro and year 3 for prospec, I think that would be best. Let the pros be fast and wild, and let prospec get some closer tandems to make it more interesting. I know it’s impossible but it would be so cool
Dean Kearney, Forrest Wang and Mike Power not returning.
Casting my vote for the tennis visor....with frosted tips.
This is ranked much higher than you may think, on my list at least
So, for anyone curious about Robert Thorne because it turned into a conversation about other podcasts, he is not competing lol
I'm sorry that was swapped subjects. But yes itnlooks like he will not be returning.
Can't stop watching this!! Great work!
Great answer in saying who’s leaving what in the table.. You’d be surprised.
Dai is coming back and bringing the visor with him
We can all hope
2 Car team with Ken Gushi, with Dais og pronounciation of Creme brulee lol.
My algorithm cooked with this one. 🔥
Seeding is great but they really need to do more to avoid bye runs. You should have to have a win to get to top 32. I get the appeal to be able to announce battles ahead of the event. The solution that works with that restriction is to match up those whose opponents don't run. In the case that there is an odd number then the highest ranked looser gets a second chance. Or skip the early announcement thing and draw the seeding bracket right before it starts.
Bring it !! "2025" 🎉
I love you you took a grip drive and jumped him ahead of people that have actually completed and earned the ranks
Who is Luke Fink battling first round ? 🇦🇺🤙
If he gets out of seeding then someone who finished top 8 last year
Gotta stay with the teal!
upside down backwards visor
I support this fully
Drift hq green beanie for sure!
they going back to qualifying? cause the seeding bracket was absolute trash.
It was way better than qualifying. Certainly not without issues though
@jasonpickens9839 seeding bracket was half by runs, and terrible totally lopsided battles. Practically unwatchable.
Qualifying brought great battles esp top 8, seeding has too many bye runs and do not contribute to good top 16
@@alexsuttles7662 That's rather contradictory. Qualifying is essentially 40 bye runs. Which is way more boring. I've suggested a fix to the bye runs many times. The seeding wasn't great because the bottom 8 were not performing well. It's a skill issue, not a format issue.
@@keshkalleshh8329 That doesn't make sense. You still end up with the same drivers in the top 32. The bottom 8 have a bit more practice, so in theory, they have a better chance against their top 8 opponent than they would otherwise.
Can't wait for that first CC Black to be sprayed on the podium! (for those who get the reference)
Nope, over my head lol
@@jacobgettins Luke's go to beverage
Kyle Mohan is running a turbo 4 rotor in his FD RX7. Rumors of Daigo Saito coming with a V8 Toyota. And that there are a few other Japan drivers coming over like Naoki Nakamura
Turbo 4 rotor is crazy for a comp car
let’s go mohan!
I wouldn't be surprised if its more than 4 rotors. His Virtual car for sim is NA 6 Rotor, and that's also what Mad Mike's kid is running.
Idk why mohan is still in fd lol
Keep the teal!!!
New season who dis
If you keep the tuque i'd say either a brighter yellow or wine purple.
8HP and DCT is not allowed in FD as they are considered Automatics. (at least that is my understanding)
Faction motorsports podcast #1
12:30 he’s trolling foresure but I hope he would.
When do ticket go on sale. What about that rumor?
Joon Maeng, hell of a throwback
Conor’s Shanahan has been pretty vocal about not enjoying how s chassis pro cars drive. His old s15 was 2j though so maybe a v8 s14 would be different for him. still a big risk to commit to it though incase he arrives in long beach and hates it.
Bring back Erie for 2025🙌
I wish
Run Utah reverse layout
I've run it in the sim and it doesn't seem to flow very well
The seeding bracket needs some change to ensure there's no planned Bye Runs in Top 32. Rank the seeding bracket competitors (break tie ranks based on prior event rank) and fill the open Top32 spots based on that ranking.
That's the only thing that really needs a change. This at least gives the drivers who showed up a chance to get into Top 32 even if they get knocked out in the first battles of the seeding bracket. Top 32 bye runs should only happen if less than 32 drivers show up.
Chuckwalla would be fire
16:15 GoodShit
Tires will be interesting this year. Two brands out, several drivers looking who likely cannot afford to compete without a backed deal.. Look for driver numbers down, sadly.
Which drivers?
The shanahans are having replica cars built, Red Bull Budget is very nice to have
Where did this info come from?
Wear a colorful bucket hat jacob!
The Outerzone x Maximum Drift x The Goodest Cast x Faction Motorsport x PileUp x Circle Of Drift mega podcast
Also Litteral said he isnt using an LS, and his team Colab has a history with R35 GTR's so I'm going to say VR38DET in the S15.
Purple took please
I really want to see some ruling for nosing to have extreme proximity while ignoring mimicking . Connor and Hiroya are both prime examples that make it look exciting but are absolutely only worried about proximity with their cars front corner . That driving style creates issues for all other drivers and the lack of mimick is never frowned upon while defining a chase as just that .
There already is. It's called judging. It is perfectly legit to trade angle for proximity. Some prefer angle, some proximity. The best chases can do both. You're kidding yourself if you think he can only do one. Yes, he favours proximity when he has to choose but judges notice. As for putting off other drivers. You mean the chase putting off the lead? Good luck pulling that off.
Judged competition is stupid put sensors on the corners of the cars that measure angle and proximity to the other car and the zones then double the length of the race how does pro level competition have 3 transitions??? That would be like f1 doing 3 lap races and thinking that was sufficient for a good competition.
Unfortunately the power race will never end and with that, tires can only last so long. Already a few tracks that kill a pair by the end of a second run. Thought about being able to change tires after every run but it would be a logistical nightmare and tire sponsor nightmare
@ doesn’t sound like a problem to me they will have to run less power or risk not having the tire to finish the battle 🤷♂️
@@M-PASTA that would be more ideal, but I just think the chance of it happening is super slim
💯 maybe still have human judges but have one judge be AI with sensors. Hold the others to account.
They have allowed the cars to be powerful. I'm with Odi, cars need detuning, then the tires will last longer.
@M-PASTA Look up "Wally Robot Drift Judge" by race data labs. Looks like the future!
Luis Hamilton never raced against Senna.
Why do drivers wait until the first round to announce they are not competing?
Because a lot try to make a program work all off season, and some only realize they can't until the last second
Keep the teal hat but a different type of hat for every round.
Bucket hat!!
maybe
Have there been any suggestions on making " Tech talk " videos like F1 does?
Yes there has and it's something I am pushing for.
@jacobgettins lets gooooo
Leave fedi alone he's living his best life
Yellow beanie could be a good change
Do a dad hat… so I can buy something I’ll actually wear
this year will be crazy with all the new driver
Who do you think, if anyone, will buy and drive Forrest Wangs S15?
collete in prospec
Simon Olsen to RTR if Vaughn ain’t using his car since he is focused on Ultra4
Ryan literal never ran a z in pro2 someone else ran that z in pro 2 before he drove it in pro 1
Beanie bill
Hat doesn’t matter, just slow down Jared’s word count counting, you have proven less can be better
Dan stukie lost all my respect when he challenged his loss on Denofa for the “HoOd OpEnD a LiTtLe”
I’ve just had a bad taste for him ever since.
Is it a rumor if it comes from the fd page
love the Jiimmy Oakes shout out
Pro spec right? Can't wait.
He was trying to distract us as he walked by the booth. Would be cool to see him compete at that level for sure.
Before this videos ends I predict Long Beach will be round 8..
That’d be pretty crazy. I’m not sure if the Grand Prix races have anything to do with them being able to shut the street down.
FD happens around the same time of the Long Beach Grand Prix. Don’t think Formula Drift can get the city of Long Beach to close off their streets twice in a year.
Absolutely no chance. FD piggyback off the indycar track set up. The indycar race is the week after FD. Without an indycar race it would be too expensive to re-set up the track.
Should have some kind of penalty for lead cars sand bagging. If you can keep up with the pack average during a chase, and are seconds slower in your lead, penalty.
You really think they can sandbag these cars at this level? If you aren't on throttle, you are going to grip up. If they brake then it is already penalised.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🫡🇺🇸
Have an app at all rounds, individual to each round where the fans slide left or right for their winner, if there’s a OMT it goes to the fan vote, or maybe even have the fans as a 4th judge 🤔
Adam is defo using a different car
HIGA should not continue due to lack of sponsorship😢
Better outcome would be for more sponsors to come on board. Maybe if he did better they might.
teal colored poker visor
I swear if I see someone spamming about higa in the streams imma tweak
Get back in the wrx from team orange fredrico
Championships are not won on Luck!
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