Great video, great technical explanations. But even greater would be to have more riding at real speed without music and more riding feedbacks. We all knew from the start that this bike must have great suspension and power. Fantastic machine, for sure. Thanks for these videos.
Why? Sure it would put people on equal equipment. But in the end it does no matter if the guy at 18th - 25 place gets work parts he is just not as good as the top dogs anyway. I might agree that certain parts should be granted access to privaters. But if people think that someone with less skill will turn into a contender because he get access to some works parts they are simply wrong. It might improve a little bit but for a full race at the top level you see the same pattern over and over wich guys falls into wich position in the field based on their skills (not saying they are bad riders far from it) but in racing there is always someone better and if you fall under that category you will also earn parts or land a major ride. If anything i think they should all be on A kit suspension for the lights class and everbody on the gate should have access to transmissions due to the risk of falling into neutral or breakdown. As for the average Joe , you can almost by everything of the showroom floor from PC and KTM sure some secret parts and what not but call mitch and say i want my kawi to be literally the same as forkners and he give you one except japanese and unobtanium parts but would you need those parts, absolutely not except for being cooler in the pits. I would like to add that four strokes are not greatful to the Wallet for anyone and indeed not for the privaters or the general public and it makes it hard for people to race. But to get secret parts you should also perform and utilize that part, they are made for a reason to push the rider and machine to an extent only a certain handfull in the world can.
Why? And if you can afford the parts the factory teams have. Then you could probably afford to hire someone to make your own factory parts. Shit is expensive!
It's happened before multiple times, most recently in Arena Cross. Factory support racer bikes stolen (Travis Sewell/Cody Vanbuskirk,) the day before an event. A local shop provides bikes. Sewell qualified first, finished first in his heat, and finished fourth on the night. Vanbuskirk finished 6th on the night. I think the outdoor tracks will greatly favor the heavily modified bikes, but in supercross/arenacross where the tracks are tighter and power potential of the bike isn't fully used, as long as the rider is happy with the power tuning and suspension, they will still likely be competitive. Remember Andrew short would pull holes hots every week during supercross over all the factory riders and he was just a privateer/support rider. If it wasn't for his stamina/training, he could have been on the podium many times.
Cool, so far that's PC, RB KTM and Honda running illegal suspension in the 250 class. Must be available all season to any pro rider for a certain price point. I think it is 5,800 for the forks and $2,600 for the shock. Great job, AMA/FIM. Give Tickle a question mark suspension which includes him not being allowed to race events you don't don't hold water to all for a fucking trace amount of something not even performance enhancing in a nasal spray and dock guys points for illegal fuel with trace amounts of something in it... but allow full works suspension keep going by in a restricted class for the last few years and do absolutely nothing. I'm over it, I'm not renewing my AMA membership. Glad I didn't waste $ on a lifetime. Dick head pencil pushers who have never even sat on a bike are ruining racing for everyone while handing all control to corporate media and a sanctioned European racing body who should have zero pull in how our racing is held, much less controlling it.
Ive always wondered why everyone wants to see who has the fastest bike Instead of who actually rode best that Day, happens in pro and Amateur Nationals
💯 hit the nail on the head. So much for production rule etc. I didn’t renew my membership after the JS7 witch hunt fuckery that ended his career. I’m good with preventing PEDs, but fuck the FIM and Fuck WADA, go with the USADA if anything.
@@if_ckedyourmom mate the suspension alone is 9500 the exhaust is over a grand that is already up to your 20,000 price its maybe not 100,000 but if you include labour costs which you should its up there in price
Jordan pro circuit was selling tomac’s practice bike a while back and it was only listed for 23k and practice bikes are basically identical to their actual bikes
@@if_ckedyourmom Not sure where your getting your info from, but the only thing pro circuit on Tomac's bike is the exhaust, his Motors are built by factory Kawasaki, and they just don't sell those bikes to the public, Period!
Great video, great technical explanations. But even greater would be to have more riding at real speed without music and more riding feedbacks. We all knew from the start that this bike must have great suspension and power. Fantastic machine, for sure. Thanks for these videos.
Pro Circuit is the bomb. They can make any rider excel in the sport.
Excellent information
Parts should be made available to general public
Why? Sure it would put people on equal equipment. But in the end it does no matter if the guy at 18th - 25 place gets work parts he is just not as good as the top dogs anyway. I might agree that certain parts should be granted access to privaters. But if people think that someone with less skill will turn into a contender because he get access to some works parts they are simply wrong. It might improve a little bit but for a full race at the top level you see the same pattern over and over wich guys falls into wich position in the field based on their skills (not saying they are bad riders far from it) but in racing there is always someone better and if you fall under that category you will also earn parts or land a major ride.
If anything i think they should all be on A kit suspension for the lights class and everbody on the gate should have access to transmissions due to the risk of falling into neutral or breakdown.
As for the average Joe , you can almost by everything of the showroom floor from PC and KTM sure some secret parts and what not but call mitch and say i want my kawi to be literally the same as forkners and he give you one except japanese and unobtanium parts but would you need those parts, absolutely not except for being cooler in the pits. I would like to add that four strokes are not greatful to the Wallet for anyone and indeed not for the privaters or the general public and it makes it hard for people to race. But to get secret parts you should also perform and utilize that part, they are made for a reason to push the rider and machine to an extent only a certain handfull in the world can.
Who will pay 20-50k for suspension and a full race engine?
Why? And if you can afford the parts the factory teams have. Then you could probably afford to hire someone to make your own factory parts. Shit is expensive!
Sick!! 🤘🤘
guys, this is not a KX250, but KX250F ... as a magazine, you should get your naming right :)
(Edit: I was wrong.... )
jeliman13 lol you dumb
In 2020, it is a kx250.
@@noahranker4133 :) your last comments on this channel: "you are slow/ bitch/ dumb" ... do you even ride bro? 🤣
@@quadcityracing oh, I see now... thats weird... thx for explaining
And you wonder why privateers can't compete
Put forkner on a stock bike and he'll still take top 5
idk about that I could believe a top 10 with a good start but a top 5 would be hard to do.
privateers dont race stock bikes
@@javiersalazar7298 lol, yea rt
It's happened before multiple times, most recently in Arena Cross. Factory support racer bikes stolen (Travis Sewell/Cody Vanbuskirk,) the day before an event. A local shop provides bikes. Sewell qualified first, finished first in his heat, and finished fourth on the night. Vanbuskirk finished 6th on the night. I think the outdoor tracks will greatly favor the heavily modified bikes, but in supercross/arenacross where the tracks are tighter and power potential of the bike isn't fully used, as long as the rider is happy with the power tuning and suspension, they will still likely be competitive. Remember Andrew short would pull holes hots every week during supercross over all the factory riders and he was just a privateer/support rider. If it wasn't for his stamina/training, he could have been on the podium many times.
9500$ for the A-kit showa forks. Hehehehehehe
So if you want to race a stock bike you may as well get a Ktm because it doesn’t sound like there’s one piece on that bike that hasn’t been changed
I think the Yamaha is the better bike out of the box. Strong engine and the best suspensions on the market.
Yes, I also agree with the Yamaha
Stock I’ll take the YZ with more power and better suspension and with the money you save you can get some bolt ons and race tech it 👍🏻🤘🏻
Cool, so far that's PC, RB KTM and Honda running illegal suspension in the 250 class. Must be available all season to any pro rider for a certain price point. I think it is 5,800 for the forks and $2,600 for the shock.
Great job, AMA/FIM. Give Tickle a question mark suspension which includes him not being allowed to race events you don't don't hold water to all for a fucking trace amount of something not even performance enhancing in a nasal spray and dock guys points for illegal fuel with trace amounts of something in it... but allow full works suspension keep going by in a restricted class for the last few years and do absolutely nothing.
I'm over it, I'm not renewing my AMA membership. Glad I didn't waste $ on a lifetime. Dick head pencil pushers who have never even sat on a bike are ruining racing for everyone while handing all control to corporate media and a sanctioned European racing body who should have zero pull in how our racing is held, much less controlling it.
Trevor Morris all about the money bro...100% politics
Fucking nailed it bud, well said!
Ive always wondered why everyone wants to see who has the fastest bike
Instead of who actually rode best that Day, happens in pro and Amateur Nationals
💯 hit the nail on the head. So much for production rule etc. I didn’t renew my membership after the JS7 witch hunt fuckery that ended his career. I’m good with preventing PEDs, but fuck the FIM and Fuck WADA, go with the USADA if anything.
It spent more time laying over in the dirt than upright.
Forkner 5-0 this season 🤷🏼♂️
Wonder what that beast puts out on the dyno
The top 250f bikes can lay down 48-49hp but it's right on the edge of 14,000rpm
@@kickstartkrew9924 in fact the factory yzf 250 got 58hp, as much as the stock 450
Cool
Jd Hayang gableg anyiiing teh...
Kx250f
$100,000 250F
maybe if you consider the r and d costs
Greg Mojher yeah 100,000 divided by 5
@@if_ckedyourmom mate the suspension alone is 9500 the exhaust is over a grand that is already up to your 20,000 price its maybe not 100,000 but if you include labour costs which you should its up there in price
Jordan pro circuit was selling tomac’s practice bike a while back and it was only listed for 23k and practice bikes are basically identical to their actual bikes
@@if_ckedyourmom Not sure where your getting your info from, but the only thing pro circuit on Tomac's bike is the exhaust, his Motors are built by factory Kawasaki, and they just don't sell those bikes to the public, Period!
to get married and go fishing
Oxoxoxoxo
can't understand this guy speaking.. sad
Way too much bike for forkterd
You realize he's been uncontested so far this season right?
@@hb62710 no point arguing with idiots they,ll only bring you down to their level