Depends on purpose. I’m more of a touring guy and not a track person. If I wanted to level up the performance from my SR, AT THIS POINT the eray fits my use case better than a z06 but so does the SR. Would be awesome to extend my driving season with awd but that alone is not enough for me. The price to performance is solid but it’s also gives me pause. For my current situation the SR is going to be more than sufficient.
@@thereissomecoolstuff that is exactly what I have. Looking forward to ron fellows later this year but I am under no illusions, this car (sr) has more ability than I do as a driver. congrats on the Z, those sounds amazing and hear the driving experience is worth every penny!
More E Rays sold brings the GM average MPG way up. Very few Z06s will be sold again next year because that real 9 MPG isn’t going to help that average so not many will be in the calculation. Yes, I get 8.8 MPG in my C8 Z06.
Reminds me of yesterdays Porsche 918 Spyder back in 2015 ... ...The 2024 E-Ray Corvette i do wish it was a ''Twin Electric Motors '' for the front , instead of the single electric motor ...
Can't wait to get on a list for the next two to three years or go pay the twenty , thirty thousand over sticker, Looks like a great car but G M needs to fill what they have on there plate now.
I'm more in line with Chuck's thinking as I'm also "old". However, I do appreciate the option for buyers with this new E-Ray. Thanks for this fascinating update. Rick and Chuck.
Well I am very disappointed that gone are the days being able to obtain a new Z06 without begging to get an allocation. I hate jumping through hoops to buy a car. I did it when I ordered my 19 ZR1 but didn’t think I would have to do it for a Z06. I guess time will tell but Corvette is becoming a unobtainable car for most who have been loyal customers for years and years. Maybe it’s time to go see the Lamborghinis!!!!
Unfortunately it does one thing that you never want to do to a performance car. It’s curb weight is almost 300 pounds heavier than the Z06. That is the equivalent of two extra passengers. 8% increase in weight. I will be buying all gas all the time.
Great point but then again generally all-wheel-drive supports cars suffer a weight penalty ! Also,.this is usually offset by superior traction, acceleration and handling ! In other words,..if enough boomers get blown away off the line by a E-ray with 4 wheel drive they'll change their tune pretty quickly,.
@@terryshrk It won’t just be AWD adding weight, it will also be batteries. Hopefully that is not too significant since they are small in the E-Ray. Only 300lbs for even low capacity batteries and electric drivetrain seems light. Is 300lbs right?
@@SteveWille 280 lbs more than the ZO6 is what is printed. The battery by itself is only good for 4 or 5 miles. The 280 lbs also includes the front drive motor. It’s more to break down. I have done a few runs with a Tesla Plaid. It’s impressive, but Electric still isn’t practical by itself, and If I want a corvette to go faster, turbo or supercharge it. I’ll keep my big block 69 corvette and my 64. Both have raw muscle and I don’t need a super computer to work on them.
The Stingray will be the most affordable. It's a hell of a car. People who buy the ZO6 will be real petrol heads who want that fabulous 5.5 liter V8. The most powerful naturally aspirated engine ever to be put in a production car. As for the E Ray. This will attract people who are into EV technology and are first adopters. I know this, these cars (as wonderful as they are) have turned into rolling computers. I wonder what the reliability and repair costs will be in a few years long after the warranty expires. Cheers!!!
Mr. Conti the C8 E-ray is a amazing Corvette!! Front wheel drive with electric motor in the trunk and dosen't take up any space!! Chevrolet did a fantastic job!! Rick,,Stop Dreaming and Start Driving sir 👍🏾
Love your comments Mike. Everything you said makes perfect sense, like you said you're not trying to talk people out of buying one you're just making practical comments.
They need to supply us with as many stingrays we want before putting out an electric car. If you can’t produce enough of the base corvettes to make the market happy, we will go buy something else.
How is Chevrolet going to build this addition to the lineup. The consumer can hardly get a C8 or let alone Zo6 and now they're adding another model to frustrate us.
Nicely done and not sure how much of market for this vehicle. Disappointed in GM , developing awesome products for Corvette, however, unable to meet customer demand. 😂 . Way to much $$$ for a hybrid that you’ll not be able produce. Bottom line : they can only produce 25k vehicles with high demand causing high dealership market ups. Just glad we have Rick being honest with corvette enthusiast considering dealing with GM failures.
Looking back, I see some subtle clues that an E-Ray C8 had been planned all along. - no loss of space in the E-Ray frunk - that mysterious transfer of Corvette into GMs electric vehicle vertical lineup I'm prepared to like the added performance from having electric powered front wheels. I can see some advantages from not having a front drive shaft and transfer case. But there probably won't be any weight saved. That would be offset by the large battery. My fears about all this are the same as the frog's in that proverbial pan of water on the stove. We may all wake up someday to realize that Corvette has become unrecognizable.
Can we please stop saying it’s not GM fault that they can’t make the cars. COVID isn’t last month, they need to adapt and adopt or die. Find a new supplier, bring a CF department in house, etc. It’s not just two options…
I was 1st on the list at my dealer...now thet I found out it costs the price of 2 base C8 Corvettes...I'm not getting it anymore...that's ridiculous! Other car manufacturers only charge $10K more for their hybrid versions...I'm just going to get the base C8 2LT with the Z51 package now...I'm just going to use it on the weekend so I'm not too worried about the gas prices
One solution to the production dilemma is to cease production on 1LT Stingrays until after supply can better meet demand for the more expensive models and trim levels. In fact, they should have been doing this all along.
Mmmm.. whats the gas milage is any better? Electic motors just one more thing to break down How long do tbose batteries last and how much to replace them? I'll take a wait see approach.
Saw a video of the E ray earlier today….. lmao, sounded ridiculous. I plan to trade my C7 eventually for the current C8, but the C8 will be my last corvette….. just have no interest in this electric world
Rick this such a funny video the description you gave was the second coming of the Grand Sport corvette known as the mid corvette. don't want the cheap corvette but can't afford Z06 but a Grand sport ERay is the same thing. I still love the car👍
Great job presenting the new E Ray. You and Chuck work well together. I was shocked by the initial cost of this new C8 version. I was with you Rick on the middle ground between Stingray and Z06. I remember you saying that you thought around 85K starting price and I agreed. Boy did we miss that mark. Keep up the great work and please relax the best you can.
In thinking about this further this question comes to mind. What is the MSRP of a base C8 Stingray with the same configuration as a base E-Ray? I hope my question is clear. I want to compare apples to apples. Cheers!
Terrible and sad, makes no sense at all ! I walked into my local Chevy dealer in No Va in May ‘21 , car was delivered one year ago today. ‘22 3Lt HTC , @ MSRP . Is there more to your story?
@@eyebimm967 Not on my side of the story. Visited the dealership, received acknowledgment via email once I was on the wait list, filled out required documents and emailed back the completed documents. The last correspondence I received was on July 1, 2021. Then responded to that email.. shown below. Contacting you now as you have been patient through all the start and stop of Corvette production, I thank-you for that. We are now beginning to enter orders for 2022 to be in the GM cue waiting for allocation release. If you wish to continue, let me know and I need any info I will reach back out, but for now I can enter something on your behalf and when the allocation release is confirmed, review and change anything for you at that time Thanks for hanging in there, the excitement of this car has made it hard but it is worth the wait Rick “Corvette” Conti
Essentially for moving the car around. Top speed in shuttle mode is 15mph. Best used at car shows, dealerships, if you winterized your Vette and don't want to start the gas engine, etc.
Great introduction on the E-Ray! None of the other channels pointed out the additional safety details like you did. I'm all in with this new model and need to figure out how to get on the right list to get one. Thanks guys!
Between the standard carbon ceramic brakes and driver assistance equipment, I’m not surprised that the base price of the Eray is higher than expected. Chevy added a lot of value. Nice summary!
Happy Anniversary Corvette 🎉 Great performance numbers from the new E-Ray but it’s curb weight is quite portly…hence why I think they made CCBs standard to help reduce weight and rotational mass…plus not as many folks will track these so the cost for replacement isn’t as much of a factor…why they still offer iron brakes on the Z. I feel strongly this new model will take away allocations of the Z and make it an even more special and desirable car to have 👌
Rick - Nice report on the E Ray. I thought it would start in the $90's. However even at the release price it will out perform the Acura NSX which starts around $170
Rick you are always doing outstanding job keeping us informed. Eray definitely on my radar, performance and numbers are impressive. I was unfortunately stiffed on my Z06 order from my dealership where I had purchased my 2021 Stingray. Keep up the great job Rick👍👍👍
Mr. Conti the new C8 E-Ray seems to be a amazing Corvette!! You and Chuck did a great job of its introduction!! Rick,Keep Dreaming and Start Driving sir👍👊
Very much excited about the E-Ray.....its an awesome offering. Good luck answering all the phone calls Rick. I decided not to bother you and add to the craziness you are probably dealing with.
Those carbon fiber brakes push the price up at least another 8k another way to stick it to the buyer...being that its not standard on the Z06 says a lot...
Ok so still has an ice, electric engine added but no mpg improvement or environmental benefit which is the purpose of hybrid/all electric vehicles. The only benefit i see is better traction and faster 0-60 times. Not a bad thing and def nice looking, but not convinced best option if looking for electrification. Def has that shock and awe factor.
Think I'd rather have the ERay over the Z06.
Nope. The Z06 is the thrasher. The battery is to small. 1.9kw is nothing.
It’s faster than a ZO6!!
Depends on purpose. I’m more of a touring guy and not a track person. If I wanted to level up the performance from my SR, AT THIS POINT the eray fits my use case better than a z06 but so does the SR. Would be awesome to extend my driving season with awd but that alone is not enough for me.
The price to performance is solid but it’s also gives me pause. For my current situation the SR is going to be more than sufficient.
@@iampartsched having had both the SR and the Z06 I agree. The SR is plenty of car. A 2LT SR is a great car.
@@thereissomecoolstuff that is exactly what I have. Looking forward to ron fellows later this year but I am under no illusions, this car (sr) has more ability than I do as a driver. congrats on the Z, those sounds amazing and hear the driving experience is worth every penny!
I do t know that any of us are looking for a Prius loaded into the front of the C8. They may not sell as many as they think at 105k each…
Chevy should have planted the 5.5L 670hp FlatPlane Crank in the E-Ray for a combined output of 830hp...
More E Rays sold brings the GM average MPG way up. Very few Z06s will be sold again next year because that real 9 MPG isn’t going to help that average so not many will be in the calculation. Yes, I get 8.8 MPG in my C8 Z06.
Reminds me of yesterdays Porsche 918 Spyder back in 2015 ... ...The 2024 E-Ray Corvette i do wish it was a ''Twin Electric Motors '' for the front , instead of the single electric motor ...
If Cacti was a TV Show, it would be canceled after the second episode 😂
GM needs a better Green than Cacti IMHO.
Great job Rick. Your health is always first. Period.
Can't wait to get on a list for the next two to three years or go pay the twenty , thirty thousand over sticker, Looks like a great car but G M needs to fill what they have on there plate now.
GM needs to start building the Z06 otherwise a bunch of hot air.
It is sad and disappointing that the basic C8 and Z06 is not available properly yet and but another unavailable car comes out!
By design,to create the want in the minds of those who want it now,resulting in dealer markups and the like.
I'm more in line with Chuck's thinking as I'm also "old". However, I do appreciate the option for buyers with this new E-Ray. Thanks for this fascinating update. Rick and Chuck.
Well I am very disappointed that gone are the days being able to obtain a new Z06 without begging to get an allocation. I hate jumping through hoops to buy a car. I did it when I ordered my 19 ZR1 but didn’t think I would have to do it for a Z06. I guess time will tell but Corvette is becoming a unobtainable car for most who have been loyal customers for years and years. Maybe it’s time to go see the Lamborghinis!!!!
Unfortunately it does one thing that you never want to do to a performance car. It’s curb weight is almost 300 pounds heavier than the Z06. That is the equivalent of two extra passengers. 8% increase in weight. I will be buying all gas all the time.
Yeah… and this is also probably why big ceramic brakes are standard.
Great point but then again generally all-wheel-drive supports cars suffer a weight penalty !
Also,.this is usually offset by superior traction, acceleration and handling !
In other words,..if enough boomers get blown away off the line by a E-ray with 4 wheel drive they'll change their tune pretty quickly,.
@@terryshrk It won’t just be AWD adding weight, it will also be batteries. Hopefully that is not too significant since they are small in the E-Ray. Only 300lbs for even low capacity batteries and electric drivetrain seems light. Is 300lbs right?
@@SteveWille 280 lbs more than the ZO6 is what is printed. The battery by itself is only good for 4 or 5 miles. The 280 lbs also includes the front drive motor. It’s more to break down. I have done a few runs with a Tesla Plaid. It’s impressive, but Electric still isn’t practical by itself, and If I want a corvette to go faster, turbo or supercharge it. I’ll keep my big block 69 corvette and my 64. Both have raw muscle and I don’t need a super computer to work on them.
The Stingray will be the most affordable. It's a hell of a car. People who buy the ZO6 will be real petrol heads who want that fabulous 5.5 liter V8. The most powerful naturally aspirated engine ever to be put in a production car. As for the E Ray. This will attract people who are into EV technology and are first adopters. I know this, these cars (as wonderful as they are) have turned into rolling computers. I wonder what the reliability and repair costs will be in a few years long after the warranty expires. Cheers!!!
Mr. Conti the C8 E-ray is a amazing Corvette!! Front wheel drive with electric motor in the trunk and dosen't take up any space!! Chevrolet did a fantastic job!! Rick,,Stop Dreaming and Start Driving sir 👍🏾
Love your comments Mike. Everything you said makes perfect sense, like you said you're not trying to talk people out of buying one you're just making practical comments.
The Stingray is still a fantastic value/performance car.
I feel it makes my 2023 C8 Z51 Obsolete.
Did I make a huge mistake in my life?
They need to supply us with as many stingrays we want before putting out an electric car. If you can’t produce enough of the base corvettes to make the market happy, we will go buy something else.
Thank goodness there ALL gonna be at msrp.Thanks Rick
What a phenomenal car. I hope they have them at NCM to be able to drive on the track.
They still charging a kidney, or just your first born?
@Biff Bifford are you implying a first born is worth less than a kidney??
@@chrism6880 Nope. Just seeking clarification on the going rate. But I’m many cases kidneys are definitely worth more than some people.
How is Chevrolet going to build this addition to the lineup. The consumer can hardly get a C8 or let alone Zo6 and now they're adding another model to frustrate us.
Nicely done and not sure how much of market for this vehicle. Disappointed in GM , developing awesome products for Corvette, however, unable to meet customer demand. 😂 . Way to much $$$ for a hybrid that you’ll not be able produce. Bottom line : they can only produce 25k vehicles with high demand causing high dealership market ups. Just glad we have Rick being honest with corvette enthusiast considering dealing with GM failures.
I just want a C8 or a 2019 C7!!!
I guess I have to wait until I can drive the C8 at the NCM Motorsport track in April.
What a dilemma
Cacti is the bread for the past meatloaf color!
How long is your eRay list?
Looking back, I see some subtle clues that an E-Ray C8 had been planned all along.
- no loss of space in the E-Ray frunk
- that mysterious transfer of Corvette into GMs electric vehicle vertical lineup
I'm prepared to like the added performance from having electric powered front wheels. I can see some advantages from not having a front drive shaft and transfer case. But there probably won't be any weight saved. That would be offset by the large battery.
My fears about all this are the same as the frog's in that proverbial pan of water on the stove. We may all wake up someday to realize that Corvette has become unrecognizable.
Great job guys.
Keeping it real as usual. No hype, no BS, just the known truth.
Thanks guys.
Keeping my Z06 allocation!
Time to bring back Electron Blue!
Yeah, this new blue is right there !
Can we please stop saying it’s not GM fault that they can’t make the cars. COVID isn’t last month, they need to adapt and adopt or die. Find a new supplier, bring a CF department in house, etc. It’s not just two options…
Can you still get the front end lift
I was 1st on the list at my dealer...now thet I found out it costs the price of 2 base C8 Corvettes...I'm not getting it anymore...that's ridiculous! Other car manufacturers only charge $10K more for their hybrid versions...I'm just going to get the base C8 2LT with the Z51 package now...I'm just going to use it on the weekend so I'm not too worried about the gas prices
Hey Chuck...what was the sound the gas pump makes? 20:45 🤣
We made the c8 so well demand is through the roof love you family
I love AWD but the weight may hinder. If I can get the Eray before Z06 then Eray it is.
So how do we place an order?
One solution to the production dilemma is to cease production on 1LT Stingrays until after supply can better meet demand for the more expensive models and trim levels. In fact, they should have been doing this all along.
Mmmm.. whats the gas milage is any better? Electic motors just one more thing to break down
How long do tbose batteries last and how much to replace them? I'll take a wait see approach.
I hope this year to find you at the Bash!
Saw a video of the E ray earlier today….. lmao, sounded ridiculous. I plan to trade my C7 eventually for the current C8, but the C8 will be my last corvette….. just have no interest in this electric world
Rick called that button by the right knee of the driver a year ago! Good Ol Eagle Eye!
GM gives the hybrid standard Carbon brakes but for the track car Z06 does not get them as standard? Just build the damn cars GM where are the Z06s?
What will the weight balance be on the E-Ray?
Please josh how can Z06 owners get ERAY tires for their zO6?
Nice job Rick and Chuck on the introduction and specs on the E-Ray it will be pretty interesting to see what it can do on the track.
Rick this such a funny video the description you gave was the second coming of the Grand Sport corvette known as the mid corvette. don't want the cheap corvette but can't afford Z06 but a Grand sport ERay is the same thing. I still love the car👍
Well done! Very interesting.
I'm chomping at the bit about the E Ray
What kind of fire extinguisher is required for a battery fire? Anyone?
How heavy is it, and is it track worthy? Because straight line is a tiny part of driving a Corvette.
Rick, I honestly don't know how you maintain your sanity with all the C8 stuff. Respect and patience for all you do for the community.
That new blue looks better then what I thought at first lol
Great job presenting the new E Ray. You and Chuck work well together. I was shocked by the initial cost of this new C8 version. I was with you Rick on the middle ground between Stingray and Z06. I remember you saying that you thought around 85K starting price and I agreed. Boy did we miss that mark. Keep up the great work and please relax the best you can.
Nice job on the ERay graphic Rick!👊🏻⚡️👍🏻💥
Another car they will not have parts to build. " crap n constraints".....
Great show!
stealth mode isnt new. the c7 zo6 has that in the exhaust switching. nice car though...just give me combustible.
In thinking about this further this question comes to mind. What is the MSRP of a base C8 Stingray with the same configuration as a base E-Ray? I hope my question is clear. I want to compare apples to apples. Cheers!
Will there be any changes for 2024 stingray besides exterior colors??
Been on the stingray waiting list with Rick since July 2019. Not even a phone call.
Terrible and sad, makes no sense at all !
I walked into my local Chevy dealer in No Va in May ‘21 , car was delivered one year ago today.
‘22 3Lt HTC , @ MSRP . Is there more to your story?
@@eyebimm967 Not on my side of the story. Visited the dealership, received acknowledgment via email once I was on the wait list, filled out required documents and emailed back the completed documents. The last correspondence I received was on July 1, 2021. Then responded to that email.. shown below.
Contacting you now as you have been patient through all the start and stop of Corvette production, I thank-you for that. We are now beginning to enter orders for 2022 to be in the GM cue waiting for allocation release.
If you wish to continue, let me know and I need any info I will reach back out, but for now I can enter something on your behalf and when the allocation release is confirmed, review and change anything for you at that time
Thanks for hanging in there, the excitement of this car has made it hard but it is worth the wait
Rick “Corvette” Conti
I think the handling is going to be a unmatched It’s going to be a real game changer!!
345s in the rear?? That's nuts. I thought my 305s were thicc
This vehicle is BA 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Good info guys, thanks. That blue, at least on video looks closer to Jetstream blue imho. Stay healthy!
I was wondering if you had heard about this e-ray
have known more than we could say, but I have a day job and been busy all day...sorry
Nice job, Rick and Chuck on the thorough explanation of the new Eray … Keep up the great work!
Look and look away,you vote with your 💸.
Thinking about buying my second C8! I’ll have to build another garage.
Rick are they going to do the ZR1 also?
Can't wait for mine! 👍you do man Rick!
Does anyone know what "shuttle" mode is? During the start mode where "stealth" mode is to the left, there is "shuttle" to the right. 🤔
Essentially for moving the car around. Top speed in shuttle mode is 15mph. Best used at car shows, dealerships, if you winterized your Vette and don't want to start the gas engine, etc.
I was concerned about the weight, but wow, it's about 3,800 lbs! Now that's impressive!
Following the trend, the ZR1 may have the Z06 engine in the rear paired with a more powerful electric motor upfront to produce about 870 combined HP.
Looks like Rick (and Chuck) will be back at NCM track next month test driving ERays
Too early to talk 2025MY ZORA List update? 😂
Why were you not invited to the event? 🤔 😡
Perhaps Chevrolet should focus on fulfilling customers’ orders first 😮
this is the one I have been waiting for.
What do you want to bet that an "E06" that would upgrade the engine to that of the Z06 is on the way?
Guess GM is after the younger more diverse customers. Dang it ! Great job by you and Chuck. I would not want to be in your shoes at this time.
Where am I going to put my skis?
Great introduction on the E-Ray! None of the other channels pointed out the additional safety details like you did. I'm all in with this new model and need to figure out how to get on the right list to get one. Thanks guys!
I just changed my order from Z06 to E-Ray
Great content
"Should have told them what you really thought of the E Ray... hahahaha"
Between the standard carbon ceramic brakes and driver assistance equipment, I’m not surprised that the base price of the Eray is higher than expected. Chevy added a lot of value. Nice summary!
Too expensive. No way. Bought a 2017 C7 grand sport. Was expecting a price like that - mid way between stingray and z06.
Happy Anniversary Corvette 🎉 Great performance numbers from the new E-Ray but it’s curb weight is quite portly…hence why I think they made CCBs standard to help reduce weight and rotational mass…plus not as many folks will track these so the cost for replacement isn’t as much of a factor…why they still offer iron brakes on the Z. I feel strongly this new model will take away allocations of the Z and make it an even more special and desirable car to have 👌
Rick - Nice report on the E Ray. I thought it would start in the $90's. However even at the release price it will out perform the Acura NSX which starts around $170
Guys you got to help me get a set of all seasons for my Z06 from the ERAY as same size.
Rick you are always doing outstanding job keeping us informed. Eray definitely on my radar, performance and numbers are impressive. I was unfortunately stiffed on my Z06 order from my dealership where I had purchased my 2021 Stingray. Keep up the great job Rick👍👍👍
Mr. Conti the new C8 E-Ray seems to be a amazing Corvette!! You and Chuck did a great job of its introduction!! Rick,Keep Dreaming and Start Driving sir👍👊
Very much excited about the E-Ray.....its an awesome offering. Good luck answering all the phone calls Rick. I decided not to bother you and add to the craziness you are probably dealing with.
saw the fronk in one of the marketing videos.. does the E Ray have storage behind the engine like the current C8's ?
Yes
Kinda puts the Z06 in a Weird Place. Price and Horsepower wise...
Those carbon fiber brakes push the price up at least another 8k another way to stick it to the buyer...being that its not standard on the Z06 says a lot...
I look at it as the carbon ceramics are included saving you thousands (assuming someone wanted the CC in the 1st place).
Ok so still has an ice, electric engine added but no mpg improvement or environmental benefit which is the purpose of hybrid/all electric vehicles. The only benefit i see is better traction and faster 0-60 times. Not a bad thing and def nice looking, but not convinced best option if looking for electrification. Def has that shock and awe factor.