I grew 17 apple seedlings, 15 pear seedlings, and 3 plum seedlings last year. Thanks to you. You truly have one of the best TH-cam channels! I wish I could grow your favorite plums!
Oh woops ! I’ve been growing them indoors from seed; they’re very fragile… about 1” high, it’s summer right now, should I go and plant the baby plants and my germinated seeds in the ground, can they withstand the summer heat or does planting them in the shade help ? And they don’t need a fertilizer, just water ? Thanks ; )
Just a quick note, apples that you get from the grocery store have more than likely already been stratified. After being washed and sorted, apples are stored in warehouses at or near freezing temps for as long as and sometimes more then two years. They are gased to put them to sleep. If you get one with tiny brown spots on the skin, this is probably one of those and the spot is the sugars in the skin much like a banana when it's ripening. After storage, it's put onto trucks or trains, still at very cold Temps, shipped to their destination like a grocery warehouse, then on to the stores, still with the Temps maintained. By the time you purchase them, they have been well stratified. I don't store my apples in the fridge but on the counter because they don't last that long around me since I love apples, and more than once I have finished my apple and looked at the seed to find they've already started to sprout. I have probably 50 Honeycrisp trees ready to go into the ground at this time. My goal is to graft as many different kinds of apples onto the same root stock as I can using the same cross pollination time chart.
@@ogreunderbridge5204 I never heard of them gassing fruit to "put it to sleep" so I can't answer that. I know sometimes they use ethylene gas to force various early-picked fruit and veg to ripen up. But the OP seems to be talking about something entirely different.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 What I really is searching for is "how to prolong shelf life on fruits", in this case apples. Guy said gas. I ask which :)) Do you know how to make them stay well edible for long time storage ? :)
@@ogreunderbridge5204 freeze 'em. Or cook and can them, or ferment them into cider/wine/vinegar etc. I'm not being a smart-alec; that's honestly the only ways I know to keep apples and other fruits edible longer than a few weeks, maybe a few months.
I learned how to graft two years ago while in gardening school and I absolutely loved it. And ever since learning that you can graft apples and pears together, I’ve become obsessed with growing a tree that has both. If I ever get a house with a garden I will have so many frankensteins fruit trees. I’m so excited!
I have been grafting apples for about 10 years. I have never heard of apples and pears together. I do know you can graft plums, cherries, peaches, apricots, and almonds. These are all of the species Prunus and therefore are compatible.
I have 17 Pink Lady Apple seed surprises growing in my front yard right now! And 4 Red D'Angou Pear seed surprises near them! And, out back, I have 4 Red Delicious Apple seed surprises, a Honey Bee seed surprise, and 4 Fuji Apple seed surprises growing in my back yard! This is going to be a good year!
We have about 6 apple trees growing from seed. We've planted a lot more than 6 over the past 6 years but we intentionally ignore them besides the rare bit of water in July and August so only the strongest survive. Last summer we got our 1st fruit off of one of the oldest, about 5 years old. To our great delight, they are delicious! Very small, the size of a crabapple, but the taste is amazing. The kids call them "cherry apples" because it grew in bunches of 5-6 fruits. And the blossoms are gorgeous giant pink things that make the tree look like a pink cloud in spring. This year looks like a repeat with fruit all over. We didn't touch it last year but this year we are thinking of thinning the fruit to see if the apples will grow larger. All in all, a very gratifying experiment!
@@StefanSobkowiak Thanks! I didn't know that crab apples could be sweet! The only ones I've ever seen/tried had to be cooked before you could eat them. Cool to know that. 😁
I sprouted organic apple and pear tree seeds n a paper towel. I first knicked the seed before putting n tamp paper towel. I now have 4 Apple trees. 1 Gala,2 Honey Crisp and a Figi. I also have 2 organic pear trees. They r all beautiful.
I like to let three side branches grow, and then top the tree. My plan is to graft two known cultivars onto the two lowest branches, and let the mystery fruit reveal itself on the third branch! If it is undesirable, I can always graft a third known cultivar in it's place. This allows for awesome cross pollination of all my trees! I'm so excited, because I am truly...well on my way!
Hi, I’ve got an Apple 🍏 tree which I’d say is about 3 years old and it’s already reaching second story windows of our house and has way too many lower branches and it’s the end of June and mid summer for us here, am I ok to prune lower branches and if so do you have any tips to lessen the chances of infection?
I recently started planting apple seeds that had germinated inside my apples. I did it mosly for the wood as my bunnies enjoy the bark and its good for their teeth! They love apples and if I should get some good tasting ones great, if not they make great orgaic material for my sandbox here in Vegas. thank you for all you tech!
You're adorable. I love pink lady apples. I have 6 seedlings that i started 4 months ago. 3 of them are nice and big the others are smaller one is a runt lol. I am just enjoying growing them.
My favorite are Cortland, Lobo and Mutsu. Or any apple fresh from the tree. Growing up I had fresh picked apples. Nothing that you can buy in the store today compares to freshly picked fruit. Actually I can't stand the taste of Gala, Red Delicious or other popular varieties. You can taste the chemicals. That is why I'm trying to grow a few apple trees. They are young still, maybe next year I'll have some fruit. I absolutely love your channel, and watched the movie and every single video more than once. I have learned so much from you. Thank you
Fantastic. I had never understood the issue of the strongest tree is a tree from seed, therefore has the longest taproot. I also did not really understand the difference between root stock and the grafted fruit. Thank you!
L.S.S. I grow a yellow delicious apple from seed in an upkeep field at work. The fruit and tree were very small but I thought it would be great to have in my yard. When I went to dig it up I found the tap root squeezed between 2 very large rocks. Sorry I tried to dig it up,it didn't survive but it did give me a yellow devious apple from seed.
I grow apple trees from seeds, but very few people have enough of land and hopes to stay there for 10 years + to taste those apples from seeds, with 99.86793% probability it is gonna be an unappealing taste apple. In the European past many peasants grew their apples from seeds, so even with low probability there were some apple jewels, unforgettable jewels, impossible to find now. Commercialization of agriculture and urbanization killed apple variety, people cut old trees and saved nothing. And apple grown from modern apple seeds is just not the same, intense apple fragrance is pretty much extinct.
@momentinpassing if you buy a potted apple tree in a big box store it may start producing right away, but even for a potted tree to produce any measurable quantities of apples it takes many years. It will take at least 5 -8 years to get a bucket full of apples from a potted tree IF it likes your soil and its root system is not damaged. In my experience less than 30% of potted trees will keep on growing to give apple volume. If you grow your apples from seeds it will take 10 years or more to get that bucket of apples.
I search for them in the woods and old fields. I found 120 yr old apples planted on the coast of maine.....totally forgotten. Beautiful old apple strains. My grandmother used only crab for pies.
Que bom que li seu comentário, queria uma macieira, porém já tenho um clima desfavorável e ainda essa explicação, concluo que vou ficar no abacaxi, goiaba, bananas, maracujá. E plantar mamão
Just cut open an organic pink lady apple and all 6 seeds inside are spouting. My 5 year old is begging to put at least one in a pot! Hence why I’m here. 😃
An apple grew out of the compost and 10 years later it has great fruit they are big and juicy. Had another tree from compost. When it was mature the first harvest eas so bountiful i had to put supports on the branches but the fruit was a mongrel. So i fed my worms with g. Thanks for the tip about grafting, gr8 idea. I am east of Adelaide in the mount lofty ranges.
I have a cousin who grafted pears he has passed now. I thought he was genius and he was. I am going to try this on a poorly performing pear. I learn a good lesson every day from you. I own the world's tiniest permaculture orchard. Trees are established now i can play! Merci!
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My fiance planted one apple tree from seed when she was in elementary in her grandparents backyard n is now about 17 year old tree is huge and is the best apple tree in the yard turn out to be granny Smith apple..
a lot of this was discussed in the book " THE BOTANY OF DESIRE" in the chapters about apples! apples are so amazing and important! thank u for the info!
The phrase at 2:40, "...from the seeds that fell from the fruit next to it." Should or could the seeds be left in the fruit and allowed to rot into the soil or must the seeds be separated from the fruit first before planting?
You got it. You can leave the seeds to rot in the fruit, as long as you don’t have lots of deer, boar, bear, raccoon, rabbits.... to take your fruit and seeds.
Hello I have try to grow my seeds do the seeds need to be washed in cold water at first then I plant it in a small pot how many monts dose it take for ii to grow I got 2 shoots small ones I do water it
Hi, so we”ll never know what will grow from an apple seed, wow, I have more then 10 little apple trees growing and awaiting to be transplanted, so should I go and planted them in the soil?
What is the rationale behind "tricking" them into thinking they've had a winter rather than actually putting them through a real winter in the soil? It's early spring here in Australia and some apple seeds I planted in autumn have sprouted without intervention.
Putting them in direct in the fall is ideal but no guarantee the seeds will still be there in spring unless you add great protection from small mammals that love seeds.
Yes I love air root pruning. The best site I think on the subject is rootmaker.com From what I learned it may send out several taproots but not likely as quick or as effective as the original. May be wrong, so if you find otherwise please let me know.
Stefan Sobkowiak thank you so much for the reply. I’ll check that website out. I’m going to be trying to cold stratify seeds this winter and plant in air pruning beds come spring. I saw it first on EdibleAcres channel and thought “I could do that!”
My mother planted a seedling tree years ago. Unfortunately it wasn't a good variety so she cut it down. It started to sprout suckers like crazy. This week I cut all the suckers except one and grafted it to a local eating variety. First time apple grafting, it's going to be a fun project to see how it goes.
I found a pacific crabapple tree. Cultivated. I opened it and the seeds are bright red. Not sure if that means they’re ready or not? Any suggestions? Should they still be a nice brown with a crabapple?
In another video I saw you mention bending top of the tree to keep it lower without cutting- can you train the top main spike into a circle/spiral ? Would that me dumb? Not a tight circle but wide low
I started dozens of apple seeds From seeds almost a decade ago. The first one produced crab apples three years ago. I have another in my yard I grafted 4 other varieties onto just in case it was a dud. I have gotten golden delicious apples off one of grafts the last two years. I finally have 6 apples growing on the original part of the tree! It’s a tip bearer and I’ve been pruning off the buds every fall! The seed I believe was a pink lady or jazz apple to being with. The apples are as big as the first Apple you started your video with. I would say a good 3/3.5”...a real apple!!! Temps dropped here last week into the 40’s and caused my apples to turn a bright pink on one side. I have them in zip loc bags to protect against the Fungus, bees, and squirrels. It’s worked the last two years...knock on wood. I will have to see if they will come off when lightly lifted. I would assume they are ripe now?
@@StefanSobkowiak I couldn’t tell you on disease resistance since they’ve been sealed in baggies all year. But I can tell you the golden delicious still are spotty even with the zip loc bags on them. My new apples look perfect. Thanks for the encouraging words.
@@StefanSobkowiak I know I have some rust spots every year. I removed my pine tree out of the yard and it’s gotten much better. The neighbor still has one. It always has big galls on it every year. So I’m cursed till his tree gets removed. I tried a light lift and twist on my apples today. They stayed put so hopefully in a few weeks when they finally ripen the squirrels still won’t figure out they are there.
Oh, I am SO wanting to do this! Only we're in a low chill area (sub tropics), so I don't know if our low-chill varieties will fruit with only a handful of nights' frost per year.
@@StefanSobkowiak Oh, yes, we have 4 low chill cultivars to choose from. I just don't know if growing them from seed will produce trees that will fruit with a low chill, too! Looks like a fun experiment anyway!
@ from seed it would be an experiment. I like Mark Shepard’s technique of planting seedlings and grafting them just above the first branches so you get something known PLUS you get to evaluate the seedling..
@@StefanSobkowiak Okay Thank You So Much. Also I planted the seed and the weather is windy. Is that the same? Also thank you so much your video is so helpful.
Cold air sinks, hot air convect. How cold temp can apple trees take ? How long periods ? Can measures of root insulation/mound frost barriers in sloped planting ground help ?
Each tree cultivar if named should be rated for it's hardiness zone. That's the cold tolerance of the tree. One night of cold below it's tolerance can kill it or kill it back to the root. Stick to trees in your zone and you won't need frost barriers.
I have a year old apple I sprouted from an Envy seed out of Australia. So far, she's looking great. Fingers crossed! I have a couple of store bought Gala's. They're two years old.
Oh. And I just put four Jonathan Apple seeds in the fridge to plant in March-ish. Wish me luck there too! I'm really excited about the "no transplant" tap root difference and can't wait to see for myself.
Wow! That was a serious learning curve for me! There are dozens of apple trees here in the windrows on this property on PEI. Most, if not all have been set by seeds dropped by birds,I imagine. I've mainly thought of them as scrap trees. They give all types of apples from them but I have never harvested anything except a few large yellow apples that taste pretty good and a Mackintosh-looking apple. But I didn't know about the taproot and transplanting. Do the nursery grafted stock use transplanted trees? I bought two this year, a Granny Smith and a Honeycrisp. Now I'm wondering about the taproot of said trees.
ok so I already broke most of these rules. I started 2 trees from seed in paper towel, planted in yogurt cups, moved them to coffee tins, and they're been sitting on the front step all summer (MTL). What should I do with these guys for the fall/winter? I was going to geurilla plant them next spring.
The biggest issue on my property is soil depth. My pasture only has soil about 18-24" deep and then it's solid bedrock. There's bare rock showing in places. So I think my best bet is to go ahead and transplant seedlings, maybe even start them in "air pots" or grow bags to encourage all those lateral roots instead of one main tap root. There's just no way for a normal taproot to dig down like it's supposed to. Naturally I'm thinking the trees will have to be kept small by pruning to accommodate such a shallow root system. I know it sounds like a crazy plan, but the entire property has full-grown mature hardwoods and eastern hemlocks, and a few decent sized apple trees of unknown origin, so obviously some trees can make it in such thin soil.
My thought... don't worry about the bedrock. Plant the seeds directly into the soil as he showed, the taproot will grow straight down to the bedrock then redirect itself along the bedrock where it may also find water at the bedrock. The taproot might find a crack in the bedrock and work it's way down even deeper. If you transplant, the root system is a pruned bushy root system that requires more watering.
plants are basically natural drills. they can tear that bedrock up. no need to worry about it. even small things like vegetables can make cracks in rock
I can see how not disturbing the tap root would be beneficial to the overall health of the roots/tree. Knowing that you may not be getting the same type of apple and that you might need to graft, would it be better to use seeds from old orchards (unknown varieties from well established tress) around us in Vermont? Or should we use seeds from local growers? Would this provide better root stock than buying modern root stocks? Also. Would using an air gap growing bed be an option that would allow good tap root and be able to grow a large quantity of root stock in a small space? Thanks Rich
I am looking to plant my honeycrisp seeds from my local farmer’s market to grow in my yard. Is it safe to plant them in fall and just let them do their thing naturally over the winter and spring?
You probably wont reply, but how do you water them seeds in the winter??? I want to test both, directly in ground and in pots. But im in southern NM and idk how to keep them waterered in the winter. Just as long as the ground is wet???
Just think of a seed from a wild plant. It falls in fall, gets some moisture over winter and hopefully gets moisture in spring which allows it to germinate.
@@StefanSobkowiak its how i thought about it, but I've never tried it, so I'm just I guess nervous I'm gonna f up, but I can't learn unless I f up lol.
Great Video again! Looking forward for the next one. I see lot of riped fruits on the ground, I'm sure that would attract rodents and eventually snakes. Are you okay with snakes in your garden? If so how do you confront them?
Wanna be Trader we only have garter snakes in the orchard and are never bothered by them. For the most part they find a place under the plastic and stay out of sight
@@StefanSobkowiak lol - Lucky Leaf's! I live in Oklahoma and we have plenty of venomous snakes here. Two or three kinds of Rattlers, Cottonmouths, Copperheads, and the cute little Garter Snakes, black rat snakes, bull snakes, and Water Moccasins. It's plenty of variety, thank you very much. I don't have an orchard...yet. Just a few young trees so far, but I have much larger plans and will have a couple of milk sheep soon. I hope. And rabbit tractors to roll around for clean up duty. And my chickens are already a huge help! I love my birds.
awesome, very enjoyable watching your video, thanks for sharing your intelligent, i am in fact growing my apple trees from seeds, they are now growing up beautifully :)
Hey Stefan, Love your channel! It's funny how often your episodes mirror what is going on in my garden here in Saskatchewan... just the other day when I was processing apples, I looked at the seeds of a very fine specimen and I wondered about growing one from seed and skipping the whole root stock, grafting program... as I watch your video I have a few seeds drying on the window sill...I used to work in a tree nursery in which we grew the root stock, and did our own grafting... Anyway I appreciate your enthusiasm and commitment to honoring this land. Melissa P.S. I am curious about the potatoes you planted back in May...
Thanks. I’ve filmed updates for almost all the spring videos just haven’t put them together yet. Potatoes are going superb and the bed is beautiful ready for a fall or spring crop.
Can you recommend what root stock to use for grafting and how to grow it when starting an orchard? Is it also possible to buy already grafted trees if you are too lazy to do it yourself?
Mr. Stefan....I think seedling fruits give us many fruits colors is because it want to give this world new fruits variety in the future... so beside the fruit color, there aren’t any difference.....the fruits taste good will depend on how we grow it and not on copy of clone.... that just my opinion
What is everyone’s (#1) favourite apple to eat?
Cortland and Macintosh.
Alternatives for Life classics 👌
Really like sweet varieties such as kiku and honeycrisp 🤓
Mark Hunter honeycrisp is also one of my top 👍
@@markhunter2244 Honeycrips are very good.
I grew 17 apple seedlings, 15 pear seedlings, and 3 plum seedlings last year. Thanks to you. You truly have one of the best TH-cam channels! I wish I could grow your favorite plums!
So nice of you
Oh woops ! I’ve been growing them indoors from seed; they’re very fragile… about 1” high, it’s summer right now, should I go and plant the baby plants and my germinated seeds in the ground, can they withstand the summer heat or does planting them in the shade help ? And they don’t need a fertilizer, just water ? Thanks ; )
Just a quick note, apples that you get from the grocery store have more than likely already been stratified. After being washed and sorted, apples are stored in warehouses at or near freezing temps for as long as and sometimes more then two years. They are gased to put them to sleep. If you get one with tiny brown spots on the skin, this is probably one of those and the spot is the sugars in the skin much like a banana when it's ripening. After storage, it's put onto trucks or trains, still at very cold Temps, shipped to their destination like a grocery warehouse, then on to the stores, still with the Temps maintained. By the time you purchase them, they have been well stratified. I don't store my apples in the fridge but on the counter because they don't last that long around me since I love apples, and more than once I have finished my apple and looked at the seed to find they've already started to sprout. I have probably 50 Honeycrisp trees ready to go into the ground at this time. My goal is to graft as many different kinds of apples onto the same root stock as I can using the same cross pollination time chart.
Do you know what type of gas is used to sleep them ?
@@ogreunderbridge5204 I never heard of them gassing fruit to "put it to sleep" so I can't answer that. I know sometimes they use ethylene gas to force various early-picked fruit and veg to ripen up. But the OP seems to be talking about something entirely different.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 What I really is searching for is "how to prolong shelf life on fruits", in this case apples. Guy said gas. I ask which :)) Do you know how to make them stay well edible for long time storage ? :)
@@ogreunderbridge5204 freeze 'em. Or cook and can them, or ferment them into cider/wine/vinegar etc.
I'm not being a smart-alec; that's honestly the only ways I know to keep apples and other fruits edible longer than a few weeks, maybe a few months.
@@ogreunderbridge5204 They reduce the amount of Oxygen in the air and slightly increase the CO2. Its called CA or ULO Storage.
I learned how to graft two years ago while in gardening school and I absolutely loved it. And ever since learning that you can graft apples and pears together, I’ve become obsessed with growing a tree that has both. If I ever get a house with a garden I will have so many frankensteins fruit trees. I’m so excited!
Is this something you do regularly? Do you sell them at all?
I have been grafting apples for about 10 years. I have never heard of apples and pears together. I do know you can graft plums, cherries, peaches, apricots, and almonds. These are all of the species Prunus and therefore are compatible.
what gardning school did you go to?
I have 17 Pink Lady Apple seed surprises growing in my front yard right now! And 4 Red D'Angou Pear seed surprises near them! And, out back, I have 4 Red Delicious Apple seed surprises, a Honey Bee seed surprise, and 4 Fuji Apple seed surprises growing in my back yard! This is going to be a good year!
We have about 6 apple trees growing from seed. We've planted a lot more than 6 over the past 6 years but we intentionally ignore them besides the rare bit of water in July and August so only the strongest survive. Last summer we got our 1st fruit off of one of the oldest, about 5 years old. To our great delight, they are delicious! Very small, the size of a crabapple, but the taste is amazing. The kids call them "cherry apples" because it grew in bunches of 5-6 fruits. And the blossoms are gorgeous giant pink things that make the tree look like a pink cloud in spring. This year looks like a repeat with fruit all over. We didn't touch it last year but this year we are thinking of thinning the fruit to see if the apples will grow larger. All in all, a very gratifying experiment!
Wonderful an adapted tree. Thinning will make them a little larger but with pink flowers it’s mainly a delicious crab apple.
@@StefanSobkowiak Thanks! I didn't know that crab apples could be sweet! The only ones I've ever seen/tried had to be cooked before you could eat them. Cool to know that. 😁
I currently have two apple tree bonsais i sprouted from growing in a paper towel😂 theyre now two and a half years old and such cute little trees
How tall are they? Because I want to do the same thing.
How thick are they?
And not a single video? Bruh...
Are we not gonna talk about the caterpillar crawling on him?!
Brian Wood haha finally! Incredibly distracting even while editing
Lmbo right!
Lol look me up on Facebook, God Bless
sign of a true plant guy
I sprouted organic apple and pear tree seeds n a paper towel. I first knicked the seed before putting n tamp paper towel. I now have 4 Apple trees. 1 Gala,2 Honey Crisp and a Figi. I also have 2 organic pear trees. They r all beautiful.
I like to let three side branches grow, and then top the tree. My plan is to graft two known cultivars onto the two lowest branches, and let the mystery fruit reveal itself on the third branch! If it is undesirable, I can always graft a third known cultivar in it's place.
This allows for awesome cross pollination of all my trees! I'm so excited, because I am truly...well on my way!
Last year in an organic apple I found a sprouted seed. The tree is doing well.
Teri Jean wow the seed had already began to sprout that’s awesome and glad to hear it’s doing well!
Mines too
That's good to read! I just found a sprouted seed in a pink lady couple of days ago, I was wondering if I will be able to grow a tree from it
What type of fruit is it producing, if any?
@@xander4043 well it hasn't flowered yet. I only grew it to graft onto another apple tree.
Hi, I’ve got an Apple 🍏 tree which I’d say is about 3 years old and it’s already reaching second story windows of our house and has way too many lower branches and it’s the end of June and mid summer for us here, am I ok to prune lower branches and if so do you have any tips to lessen the chances of infection?
I have a summer vs winter pruning video coming out this month. Best to wait until winter.
Just found multiple sprouting seeds in a braeburn, found myself here immediately. Wish me luck!!
I have one that's about a year and a half old now I found in an empire. it's been struggling a bit... :/
I recently started planting apple seeds that had germinated inside my apples. I did it mosly for the wood as my bunnies enjoy the bark and its good for their teeth! They love apples and if I should get some good tasting ones great, if not they make great orgaic material for my sandbox here in Vegas. thank you for all you tech!
You're adorable. I love pink lady apples. I have 6 seedlings that i started 4 months ago. 3 of them are nice and big the others are smaller one is a runt lol. I am just enjoying growing them.
This is an amazing video for a beginner like me thank you so much
My favorite are Cortland, Lobo and Mutsu. Or any apple fresh from the tree. Growing up I had fresh picked apples. Nothing that you can buy in the store today compares to freshly picked fruit. Actually I can't stand the taste of Gala, Red Delicious or other popular varieties. You can taste the chemicals.
That is why I'm trying to grow a few apple trees. They are young still, maybe next year I'll have some fruit.
I absolutely love your channel, and watched the movie and every single video more than once. I have learned so much from you. Thank you
Ewa Hall that’s awesome Ewa, I’ve never heard of Mutsu (I’m sure my father has) but if you’re comparing it to the others I’m sure it’s delicious!!
Ewa glad it helps, keep growing your own fruit.
Fantastic. I had never understood the issue of the strongest tree is a tree from seed, therefore has the longest taproot. I also did not really understand the difference between root stock and the grafted fruit. Thank you!
Glad it helped!
L.S.S. I grow a yellow delicious apple from seed in an upkeep field at work. The fruit and tree were very small but I thought it would be great to have in my yard. When I went to dig it up I found the tap root squeezed between 2 very large rocks. Sorry I tried to dig it up,it didn't survive but it did give me a yellow devious apple from seed.
I grow apple trees from seeds, but very few people have enough of land and hopes to stay there for 10 years + to taste those apples from seeds, with 99.86793% probability it is gonna be an unappealing taste apple. In the European past many peasants grew their apples from seeds, so even with low probability there were some apple jewels, unforgettable jewels, impossible to find now. Commercialization of agriculture and urbanization killed apple variety, people cut old trees and saved nothing. And apple grown from modern apple seeds is just not the same, intense apple fragrance is pretty much extinct.
@momentinpassing if you buy a potted apple tree in a big box store it may start producing right away, but even for a potted tree to produce any measurable quantities of apples it takes many years. It will take at least 5 -8 years to get a bucket full of apples from a potted tree IF it likes your soil and its root system is not damaged. In my experience less than 30% of potted trees will keep on growing to give apple volume. If you grow your apples from seeds it will take 10 years or more to get that bucket of apples.
I search for them in the woods and old fields. I found 120 yr old apples planted on the coast of maine.....totally forgotten. Beautiful old apple strains.
My grandmother used only crab for pies.
Hidden Harvest Grow Lights wow amazing!
Que bom que li seu comentário, queria uma macieira, porém já tenho um clima desfavorável e ainda essa explicação, concluo que vou ficar no abacaxi, goiaba, bananas, maracujá. E plantar mamão
Just cut open an organic pink lady apple and all 6 seeds inside are spouting. My 5 year old is begging to put at least one in a pot! Hence why I’m here. 😃
I like your videos, i am growing lots of trees from seed including apple
An apple grew out of the compost and 10 years later it has great fruit they are big and juicy. Had another tree from compost. When it was mature the first harvest eas so bountiful i had to put supports on the branches but the fruit was a mongrel. So i fed my worms with g. Thanks for the tip about grafting, gr8 idea. I am east of Adelaide in the mount lofty ranges.
You may have the next Gala on your hands. If consensus is that it’s a great apple, consider grafting it to preserve it.
I have a cousin who grafted pears he has passed now. I thought he was genius and he was. I am going to try this on a poorly performing pear. I learn a good lesson every day from you. I own the world's tiniest permaculture orchard. Trees are established now i can play! Merci!
I just planted 4 Apple trees from y seeds into my garden last month. 2 more to put in ground. I'll see what I get. I'm excited.
One of the best apple growing videos I have ever seen. Thanks so much sir
Wow, thanks
Excellent Video
Finally I know how it’s done
andreas schaetze haha excellent glad we could help out 👍
Once the seeds are in the freezer. Should they spend a few days/weeks in the fridge to "wake up" before direct seeding them.
usually severals weeks- wait until march or so
A few weeks or maybe just one or two maybe enough. Follow the season outdoors, when no more snow weather then fridge and seed direct.
Usaualy takes 3weeks
Egremont russet is my old garden fav apple.
Thanks for the video.
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I love the end idea of having the best of both worlds.
right, have watched a couple of tutorial on grafting, he is the first to mention I can keep both. In theory, it makes sense.
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My fiance planted one apple tree from seed when she was in elementary in her grandparents backyard n is now about 17 year old tree is huge and is the best apple tree in the yard turn out to be granny Smith apple..
Pink lady definitely my favorite apple. Growing a red gala and granny Smith. 2 years in ground from barefoot no fruit just yet.
RyneKly pink lady yes!!
RyneKly and you’ll have to let us know when it finally does decide to produce, but I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait 👍
I'm looking for heirloom varieties that have a similar sweet/tart balance like Pink Lady, so far she is one of a kind and still my favorite
a lot of this was discussed in the book " THE BOTANY OF DESIRE" in the chapters about apples! apples are so amazing and important! thank u for the info!
Eileen Hearne you’re welcome thanks for the awesome feedback :)
Good book!
“ Some will give you spiney trees you go oh my god i cant even go near that tree “ haha 😜
Hello thank you for showing your little tree .Tell me what you spray on your tree .
Whey on some.
Just planted my apple seeds! Hopefully they grow!
Update?
Thanks Stefan! 😊🙏 🍎 Im going to start some in my indoor garden.
Hidden Harvest Grow Lights awesome you’ll have to let us know how it goes!
@@ZaneMedia Will do!🙏
The phrase at 2:40, "...from the seeds that fell from the fruit next to it." Should or could the seeds be left in the fruit and allowed to rot into the soil or must the seeds be separated from the fruit first before planting?
You got it. You can leave the seeds to rot in the fruit, as long as you don’t have lots of deer, boar, bear, raccoon, rabbits.... to take your fruit and seeds.
O.K. Thank you very much. I guess that I would have to leave plenty for them to eat as well.
Hello I have try to grow my seeds do the seeds need to be washed in cold water at first then I plant it in a small pot how many monts dose it take for ii to grow I got 2 shoots small ones I do water it
great video and I love your enthusiasm
Hi, so we”ll never know what will grow from an apple seed, wow, I have more then 10 little apple trees growing and awaiting to be transplanted, so should I go and planted them in the soil?
AcuariosHabitables hopefully you’ll get a “gem” out of one of them :)
Yup now is a good time in our area. Fall is the best time to plant most deciduous trees.
Yes I am growing them thanks
What is the rationale behind "tricking" them into thinking they've had a winter rather than actually putting them through a real winter in the soil?
It's early spring here in Australia and some apple seeds I planted in autumn have sprouted without intervention.
Putting them in direct in the fall is ideal but no guarantee the seeds will still be there in spring unless you add great protection from small mammals that love seeds.
Have you heard of air-pruning? Would using air-pruning allow the tree’s taproot to continue growing down once planted?
Yes I love air root pruning. The best site I think on the subject is rootmaker.com From what I learned it may send out several taproots but not likely as quick or as effective as the original. May be wrong, so if you find otherwise please let me know.
Stefan Sobkowiak thank you so much for the reply. I’ll check that website out. I’m going to be trying to cold stratify seeds this winter and plant in air pruning beds come spring. I saw it first on EdibleAcres channel and thought “I could do that!”
Stefan Sobkowiak I don’t have an area to direct roots plant so this is the next best thing.
Wow brilliant, thank you for not discouraging me! i shared with people that i am planting apple tree seeds and they all said it was a terrible idea.
Great idea, especially if you plan to graft them to your favorite apples.
My mother planted a seedling tree years ago. Unfortunately it wasn't a good variety so she cut it down. It started to sprout suckers like crazy. This week I cut all the suckers except one and grafted it to a local eating variety. First time apple grafting, it's going to be a fun project to see how it goes.
Fantastic. When cutting a whole tree you can leave 3 suckers and graft each one, since a graft is not guaranteed to work. Well done.
i love it how to grow them 💓 from Philippines 🇵🇭
Love the enthusiasm
Katie Pie haha yes he really gets into it :)
Hello!!! I wanted know, HOW LONG THIS TREE IS FAR FRUIT,?
4-7 years
How far apart do you plants apple trees, do they like lots of water or little or med amount
Ours on dwarf rootstock are 8-10’ on sandy soil, I would recommend farther in most other situations, up to 40’ on standard roots.
Thank you for sharing the ideas on planting apple
Good Descriptions with a lot of of information. Thanks.
If you do the paper towel method does the paper towel have to be moist wet or wet?
Moist
You are the best in explanation... seriously...u are just awesome....
My favorite food is apple 😍😍😍😍😝😝😝😜😜😜😋😋😋😋
I found a pacific crabapple tree. Cultivated. I opened it and the seeds are bright red. Not sure if that means they’re ready or not? Any suggestions? Should they still be a nice brown with a crabapple?
Red is ripe for some, as long as it’s not white.
Stefan Sobkowiak okay thanks :)
I did the paper towel method and my 3 trees are doing well haha
The prior owners of my orchard grew a tree in their compost pile and put a patent on it. It is a decent apple.
In another video I saw you mention bending top of the tree to keep it lower without cutting- can you train the top main spike into a circle/spiral ? Would that me dumb? Not a tight circle but wide low
Yes great way to keep the tree lower.
Are the old apple 🍎 trees varieties like gravensteen just as random in what you get from seeds?
Certainly mostly the old ones are random seedlings discovered.
Well done both educational & humorous.
I've germinated around 50 apple seeds. I've yet to stratify them, and I've yet to have a problem. Is it a cultivar to cultivar thing?
I started dozens of apple seeds From seeds almost a decade ago. The first one produced crab apples three years ago. I have another in my yard I grafted 4 other varieties onto just in case it was a dud. I have gotten golden delicious apples off one of grafts the last two years. I finally have 6 apples growing on the original part of the tree! It’s a tip bearer and I’ve been pruning off the buds every fall! The seed I believe was a pink lady or jazz apple to being with. The apples are as big as the first Apple you started your video with. I would say a good 3/3.5”...a real apple!!! Temps dropped here last week into the 40’s and caused my apples to turn a bright pink on one side. I have them in zip loc bags to protect against the Fungus, bees, and squirrels. It’s worked the last two years...knock on wood. I will have to see if they will come off when lightly lifted. I would assume they are ripe now?
Fantastic. Looks are important since people usually buy on looks but taste is essential. Disease resistance is right up there as well.
@@StefanSobkowiak I couldn’t tell you on disease resistance since they’ve been sealed in baggies all year. But I can tell you the golden delicious still are spotty even with the zip loc bags on them. My new apples look perfect. Thanks for the encouraging words.
You can tell most diseases are on the leaves and the fruit, so even outside the bag.
@@StefanSobkowiak I know I have some rust spots every year. I removed my pine tree out of the yard and it’s gotten much better. The neighbor still has one. It always has big galls on it every year. So I’m cursed till his tree gets removed. I tried a light lift and twist on my apples today. They stayed put so hopefully in a few weeks when they finally ripen the squirrels still won’t figure out they are there.
At what depth should you place the seed for the best success?
The general rule is you plant a seed twice the depth as the seed is wide.
my favroiute apples are the redapples
Can you take cuttings from apples trees in the fall for grafting?
Late summer bud graft
But can I grow them here in NE Oklahoma? I'd love to cover my lil property with apple trees.
Grow whatever grows easily on your property, maybe peach or persimmon or pear or cherry or apple.
Boskoop, Golden Delicious nad Jonagold are still my favorites.
On average, how long does it take an apple tree to mature enough to have apples?
4-7 years.
Oh, I am SO wanting to do this! Only we're in a low chill area (sub tropics), so I don't know if our low-chill varieties will fruit with only a handful of nights' frost per year.
You can find each cultivars chill hours or ask your extension agent, they should know.
@@StefanSobkowiak Oh, yes, we have 4 low chill cultivars to choose from. I just don't know if growing them from seed will produce trees that will fruit with a low chill, too!
Looks like a fun experiment anyway!
@ from seed it would be an experiment. I like Mark Shepard’s technique of planting seedlings and grafting them just above the first branches so you get something known PLUS you get to evaluate the seedling..
@@StefanSobkowiak What fun! Thank you - I can't wait to do it! :D
Is it okay if we take the apple straight from the apple and plant it?
Yes but it may need to go through a cold period to germinate, unless it’s been stored in the fridge for a few months.
@@StefanSobkowiak Okay Thank You So Much. Also I planted the seed and the weather is windy. Is that the same? Also thank you so much your video is so helpful.
Wind is normal.
Cold air sinks, hot air convect. How cold temp can apple trees take ? How long periods ? Can measures of root insulation/mound frost barriers in sloped planting ground help ?
Each tree cultivar if named should be rated for it's hardiness zone. That's the cold tolerance of the tree. One night of cold below it's tolerance can kill it or kill it back to the root. Stick to trees in your zone and you won't need frost barriers.
Also how much water should we put on the soil when the seed is in?
As little as it needs to germinate in your soil
His voice is asmr.
Asian pears are 2.49 a pear where i live so I would definitely 👍 try to grow one.. 😅
I have a year old apple I sprouted from an Envy seed out of Australia. So far, she's looking great. Fingers crossed! I have a couple of store bought Gala's. They're two years old.
Oh. And I just put four Jonathan Apple seeds in the fridge to plant in March-ish. Wish me luck there too! I'm really excited about the "no transplant" tap root difference and can't wait to see for myself.
Wow! That was a serious learning curve for me! There are dozens of apple trees here in the windrows on this property on PEI. Most, if not all have been set by seeds dropped by birds,I imagine. I've mainly thought of them as scrap trees. They give all types of apples from them but I have never harvested anything except a few large yellow apples that taste pretty good and a Mackintosh-looking apple. But I didn't know about the taproot and transplanting. Do the nursery grafted stock use transplanted trees? I bought two this year, a Granny Smith and a Honeycrisp. Now I'm wondering about the taproot of said trees.
The only tree to have a taproot intact is a seedling that has never been transplanted.
ok so I already broke most of these rules. I started 2 trees from seed in paper towel, planted in yogurt cups, moved them to coffee tins, and they're been sitting on the front step all summer (MTL). What should I do with these guys for the fall/winter? I was going to geurilla plant them next spring.
Just guérilla plant them now. From tough beginnings come champions.
Great video! Thanks!
Fay Cotton thanks Fay glad you enjoyed it!
Question: If I had a golden delicious and a granny Smith. Could I graft a honey crisp branch to each tree and leave the rest as the seedling?
Yes but the rest are not seedlings.
@@StefanSobkowiak oh my apologies I mean if I took a seed from both apples and Grew the trees, then grafted the branches to them.
Hey ☺ its realy helpful to me as i hv grown apple tree at ma home im ur new subscriber 😍 m from amritsar punjab india
Welcome
Your videos are great
Should I plant my seeds in the fall or in the spring?
Depends on potential seed eaters. Fall and screen on top works or store in fridge or freezer and spring seed.
The biggest issue on my property is soil depth. My pasture only has soil about 18-24" deep and then it's solid bedrock. There's bare rock showing in places. So I think my best bet is to go ahead and transplant seedlings, maybe even start them in "air pots" or grow bags to encourage all those lateral roots instead of one main tap root. There's just no way for a normal taproot to dig down like it's supposed to. Naturally I'm thinking the trees will have to be kept small by pruning to accommodate such a shallow root system.
I know it sounds like a crazy plan, but the entire property has full-grown mature hardwoods and eastern hemlocks, and a few decent sized apple trees of unknown origin, so obviously some trees can make it in such thin soil.
You can’t argue with what’s already growing well.
My thought... don't worry about the bedrock. Plant the seeds directly into the soil as he showed, the taproot will grow straight down to the bedrock then redirect itself along the bedrock where it may also find water at the bedrock. The taproot might find a crack in the bedrock and work it's way down even deeper.
If you transplant, the root system is a pruned bushy root system that requires more watering.
plants are basically natural drills. they can tear that bedrock up. no need to worry about it. even small things like vegetables can make cracks in rock
Honey Crisp Apples are my favorite
I have it in a small pot and it is in fall and i live in north east can I transplant the tree to a bigger pot every time it get bigger
you can and it should remain a bonsai if you prune the roots
I can see how not disturbing the tap root would be beneficial to the overall health of the roots/tree. Knowing that you may not be getting the same type of apple and that you might need to graft, would it be better to use seeds from old orchards (unknown varieties from well established tress) around us in Vermont? Or should we use seeds from local growers? Would this provide better root stock than buying modern root stocks?
Also. Would using an air gap growing bed be an option that would allow good tap root and be able to grow a large quantity of root stock in a small space?
Thanks
Rich
Seed in place from disease resistant trees even old trees would be best. Air root pruned is great for root branching if transplanting.
Does disease resistance follow the seed if the seed is from a grafted tree? I could grab seeds from a newer tree that is local but it is grafted.
Very educational thank you!!
More Than Mortal glad you enjoyed it!
I am looking to plant my honeycrisp seeds from my local farmer’s market to grow in my yard. Is it safe to plant them in fall and just let them do their thing naturally over the winter and spring?
Yes but best to add some wire mesh over the seeds or they risk being eaten by seed eaters before they germinate in spring.
You make me smile. I saw your video on dandylions years ago, wery nice, i'm subscribing.👌👍
You probably wont reply, but how do you water them seeds in the winter??? I want to test both, directly in ground and in pots. But im in southern NM and idk how to keep them waterered in the winter. Just as long as the ground is wet???
Just think of a seed from a wild plant. It falls in fall, gets some moisture over winter and hopefully gets moisture in spring which allows it to germinate.
@@StefanSobkowiak its how i thought about it, but I've never tried it, so I'm just I guess nervous I'm gonna f up, but I can't learn unless I f up lol.
has anyone else heard of Winesap Apples? I remember them from my childhood.
Yes you can look them up and find someone who’s collecting them. You could ask for or buy grafting scions from them and grow your own.
Great Video again! Looking forward for the next one. I see lot of riped fruits on the ground, I'm sure that would attract rodents and eventually snakes. Are you okay with snakes in your garden? If so how do you confront them?
Wanna be Trader we only have garter snakes in the orchard and are never bothered by them. For the most part they find a place under the plastic and stay out of sight
I want more snakes, more species, more in numbers. None venomous here. No confrontation, just enjoy seeing them and let them be.
@@StefanSobkowiak lol - Lucky Leaf's! I live in Oklahoma and we have plenty of venomous snakes here. Two or three kinds of Rattlers, Cottonmouths, Copperheads, and the cute little Garter Snakes, black rat snakes, bull snakes, and Water Moccasins. It's plenty of variety, thank you very much.
I don't have an orchard...yet. Just a few young trees so far, but I have much larger plans and will have a couple of milk sheep soon. I hope. And rabbit tractors to roll around for clean up duty. And my chickens are already a huge help! I love my birds.
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awesome, very enjoyable watching your video, thanks for sharing your intelligent, i am in fact growing my apple trees from seeds, they are now growing up beautifully :)
Hey Stefan,
Love your channel! It's funny how often your episodes mirror what is going on in my garden here in Saskatchewan... just the other day when I was processing apples, I looked at the seeds of a very fine specimen and I wondered about growing one from seed and skipping the whole root stock, grafting program... as I watch your video I have a few seeds drying on the window sill...I used to work in a tree nursery in which we grew the root stock, and did our own grafting...
Anyway I appreciate your enthusiasm and commitment to honoring this land.
Melissa
P.S. I am curious about the potatoes you planted back in May...
Melissa W haha great minds think alike ;)
Thanks. I’ve filmed updates for almost all the spring videos just haven’t put them together yet. Potatoes are going superb and the bed is beautiful ready for a fall or spring crop.
That's fantastic! I can't wait until you post them!
Can you recommend what root stock to use for grafting and how to grow it when starting an orchard? Is it also possible to buy already grafted trees if you are too lazy to do it yourself?
Rootstock determines size mostly so what size tree do you want? All fruit trees you buy (vast majority) are already grafted and grown.
Grafting can also be used to have a multi-variety tree. Maybe, 5 varieties of apples on a single tree.
Mr. Stefan....I think seedling fruits give us many fruits colors is because it want to give this world new fruits variety in the future... so beside the fruit color, there aren’t any difference.....the fruits taste good will depend on how we grow it and not on copy of clone.... that just my opinion