pcpanik-Musik : Medeli AKX10 Style recording problems - Follow up
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- (EN) This is a follow up video to my last video about style recording issues with the Medeli AKX10. I made a mistake ...
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The problem with the four quick set control of the keyboard instruments is the QuickSet will ONLY accept factory presets, there is no provision for adding custom tones. It will save all the settings you made on the instruments in QS1, but 2, 3, and 4 will have only presets available. There is no use in saving the hard worked custom instruments you set up in the main panel because these are saved in the Bank/Registration anyway. The work-around is to save a new registration for each of the 4 keyboard instruments you set up in the main menu. Then if you have 3 different instrument setups for the song you want to perform, make sure that you store them all on the same Bank, such as Bank12/registration 6, 7, 8. You now have full access to 3 completely different keyboard instruments setups that can be as custom as you wish. Set up your first registration and when finished save, and then copy to the next registration and begin all the new keyboard instrument setup again. I agree with you, the QuickSet function is useless for anyone desiring highly unique and custom keyboard sounds with full effects options. The Bank/Registration save is very powerful saving all the custom work you set up for a song to perform; obviously it does not save edits to tones and styles, these are separate saves within the edit of each style or tone. I guess I can live without the QuickSet, but hope for a firmware update on this.
Thanks for this update. I look forward to your video after the new firmware update.
Thank you for all your videos on this keyboard. I have read the PDF manual twice now, and watched all your video's....there are still unknowns....so....I bought a Medeli AKx10 today. Maybe between the two of us we can learn the style creator and alternatives to get the job done. I have no use for any preset styles or sounds, so will be creating all my own styles and edited/layered instruments. So I will be going deep into the operating system of this keyboard and using all the features this keyboard has to offer. Lets work together :)
Feel free to contact me via email. I am very curious if you are satisfied with it. I think a Korg Pa700 (used) would have been a better choice for you for a number of reasons.
@@pcpanikMusik Yes, the PA700 was my first choice, but for the $600 I spent on the Medeli it is worth a try. And maybe combining the Casio MZx500 I currently use and the Medeli I can get the job done. Never yet seen any synth/sampler/groove box/drum machine/arranger/workstation that did the whole job at a pro level.
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene The AKX10 is probably a better choice than the PA700. There are many features in the AKX10 that are still unexplored. Furthermore Medeli is also interested in users feedback. Medeli will continue to update its OS over time.
@@snslifestyleorg Thank you, you make me feel better about my purchase. My main concern is the style creator and being limited to CM7 notes and not the entire scale of notes. My understanding is the latest firmware update has solved this limitation.
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene You can check the Styles created by Floren Milian on TH-cam. There are already a number of Style creators working on the AKX10.
Another little frustration is when editing keyboard instruments layer 2, 3 and 4, when finished editing and saved, the save replaces instrument #1 and places the last edit there. Meaning you have to replace #1 with the instrument you first had in there every time you edit any tone other than #1.
I prefer Roland's idea of quantize; the quantize can be set to the normal note value, but also a range of movement to perfect lock from 1 to 100% is also an option. I agree with you, quantize should never adjust the length of the note, human feel is eliminated...but I feel 100% quantize to the perfect grid is also de-humanizing.
Yes, I've seen this option for humanizing in some Yamaha keys too. It is a great idea. In my case, I often go after the quantization into the event editor and change some notes a bit, to make it a bit imperfect.
Another frustration is the four Phrase pads will not accept custom instruments saved in user tones. Again only factory presets may be used for instruments of the pads. The work-around I plan for this is....the Phrase Pads will output MIDI from the 5pinMIDI connection on MIDI channels 5, 6, 7 and 8. I am going to use out-board synths for the Phrase Pads receiving on these MIDI channels, I plan to replace the Medeli internal tones with other synths on Channels 5, 6, 7, 8.
Hello,
I've been watching the development for over a year now and was planning to buy an AKX10. You can see that Medeli is trying to improve the AKX10. Nevertheless, in my opinion, the firmware is still not mature enough to work creatively with it. I bought the Casio MZ-X500 keyboard years ago. The operating manual there is a disaster and at the same time the options offered are incredibly large. Unfortunately, the Casio also has some firmware problems and is no longer being developed. But there are workarounds for problems that are now known. With the AKX10, I was impressed by the 768MB sample memory and SF2 import. The MZ-X500 has only 256MB and can manage a maximum of 1000 mono samples. But they are synthesizer functions, such as filters, much better for sound tinkerers like me. Programming an arranger style is not very intuitive. If you only use ready-made styles, you will quickly achieve impressive results with an arranger keyboard. But then it always sounds like something you've already heard. If you want to play well-known pieces, this may be a great thing. But the individuality is lost. Without my own sounds and styles, music production is not interesting for me. In my opinion, without a DAW there is only the current AKAI MPC series so far. In stand alone mode, samples can be edited quickly, the sequencer allows 128 MIDI tracks and the effects are similar to those of a DAW. You can easily connect MIDI keyboards and additional audio interfaces, additional MIDI interfaces and PC keyboards to the MPC ONE. No other product on the market is as flexible. The price of an MPC ONE is similar to that of the AKX10. For these reasons I decided not to buy an AKX10 after all. Thank you for your videos, which gave me an overview of the AKX10.
You are welcome. The AKX10 is an Arranger Keyboard for fast and (more or less) simple live and home playing. Not for music production.
Remember, the MZ-X500 was priced over 1000€ when it was new. And at the end it was a disappointment. The only plus are the Hex-Layer synth sounds, the Step-Editor and the pads. And to be fair, for that price you could also have a very good polyphonic synth (Deppmind 6 eg.) and a little workstation. (e.g. Korg Kross 2)
thank you I have learned alot from this video I am new to the Medeli but have a few other professional synths I play in a band and at home recording into my DAWI
I was wondered if you possibly know the answer to this midi out question I have as I can not see it in the manual.
I see the midi settings page talks about R1 R2 R3 L1 midi settings seems simple enough , but what about if you have the drums pattern/style playing on the keyboard? is it possible to send the drums midi note info out to a computer DAW? I have a very high end drums program and I'd prefer to use it sounds just for the drums. So where do you set the drums channel out number? or is it set to some default channel out?
I'd want to play the keyboard live as normal but just have the internal drums sounds set at zero volume and send the midi notes out for the drums to the DAW in the computer so it can play my drums from the computer.
Is this possible? thanks so much for listening. I appreciate any thoughts you have have a wonderful day and again thank you so much.
Don't know if you're aware but the price of this has just increased dramatically. I'm in the UK and Medeli don't retail here so my only option is to risk buying from one of the music supermarkets in Europe. I'd saved enough to buy one this week - only to have the price shoot up from £599 to around £645 - same huge price hike at all online retailers. That's around 760 Euros and hugely reduces the difference between this an a keyboard from the better supported brands - at least in the UK. It's certainly enough of an overnight price hike to have me looking around at the big names - can't see this selling at more than £600.
You can get the thomann AK-X11000 for £500 at thomann.de/uk
It is nearly the same keyboard, but less Memory (256 instead of 768) and userplaces (500/1000) and the firmware updates will come later, than for the AKX10.
But maybe you want to look for a used Korg Pa700 instead.
@@pcpanikMusik - I think it's altered the playing field - it's now dearer than a Korg Pa600 and only £12 less than a Yamaha SX600 (and that's with me buying from a UK retailer - makes a difference to my legal rights and makes returns affordable). I've watched your vid on the HB version - seems to be very heavily crippled in areas too important to lose. Appreciate your vids, by the way - very clear and unbiased,
I am still confused on this chord choice for recording styles...this should SCALE choice not chord...unless the limitation of using only notes in the AM chord (for example) remains in the Medeli operating system? So when recording style pitches does it include all the notes in the AM scale..or...just the notes in the AM chord????? Thank you for all your help on these video's, I am hoping this is my next keyboard purchase.
Even the AKX10 is a great keyboard and you should give it a try ... after listening to your music and reading some of your comments on how you're working, I don't think, it's the right choice for your music. Im pretty sure a Yamaha MoDX or a Korg Krome EX would be a much better choice for you, because they both offer a lot of sequenzer and arpeggiator possibilities.
Hi,
Has this keyboard got Indian Rythms and Tones?
Thanks
Not really. You should have a look at its sister model: Medeli Dante ZEN
dantezen.com/
@@pcpanikMusik Thanks for the information.
How do you contact them I tried support and there Facebook page as well and no response after 2 weeks
www.medeli.com.hk/contact-us
Still wondering how the firmware update is working for you? any issues? I am a little concerned of trying to install it yet. many comments of keyboard freezing? jabkeez
Apart from the mentioned problems with quantization in style recording, I haven't really noticed anything like freezes so far. However, I only spent a little time with the AKX10 as I prepared a lot for performances with the Korg Pa.
@@pcpanikMusik Sorry nothing to do with style creation...asking about previous video Medeli firmware update ..is it working?