I only got a third of the way into this video and I felt that I was being chastised like a child. This is supposed to be calming, therapeutic, enjoyable, fun. No one should say you are wrong or breaking "rules" when creating. It made me want to stop doing something that was bringing me joy. No way, thank you.
In the teachings of Pavel Piskarov the founder of Neurographica there is a protocol that has been tested for many years with many people and put in place for very specific reasons and consciousness raising outcomes. You start with a theme and while you are drawing in a specific way you turn your problems into beauty. It would be to your benefit to follow the protocol but if you don't want to follow the Neurographica guidelines nobody has any desire to make you. Neurographica isn't about drawing pretty pictures and at times it may even cause some temporary distress as you move through past unhealed issues and actually change the neurons in your brain to expand your mind and achieve more than you ever have before.
I don't think that making a stipulation of right and wrong is condusive to one's ability to let go and have the lines and colors guide and choose us-rather than we them.. If we give ourselves the freedom of knowing that there are no mistakes, the creative processes and revelations that result can really be profound. Children draw like this...they are the most honest artists. They let the colors dictate which ones to use, there are no mistakes to correct, they really don't care who likes or dislikes their work and they know when they are done (something that I struggle with and overwork things) I only got 30 seconds into this video and my inner child wanted to move to another classroom with the nice teacher who doesn't always make me wrong..
Some people need rules to function, however often when trying to sort out life issues through art therapy it’s preferable to limit the rules and just encourage participation. ❤️
True, but Neurographica is different! It is not 100% art therapy, although it has components of therapy. The rules have been created by the author of the method and when you implement them you see what difference they make! My students report on a daily basis how following the correct algorithms changing their results to the better outcome
@@AmarnaNeuroartit is kind of medecin, isn't it. So, your instructions are like a prescription, it is how I see that. Thank you..I tried it without instructions alone (I saw dr.Piskarov doing it) and now I recognized the first one..then all other mistakes. It is much more clear now, I am going to draw with your advices.
I have used neurgraphics for several months, both as a therapy and as art. My therapy pieces that deal with a specific problem, usually end up as art anyway, but sometimes I create artworks for fun, using some of the algorithms and ignoring others. Reading the comments showed that many of the viewers were confused as to which were prescribed algorithms to be used in the THERAPY and what is used when using the method to make an art work. Rewatching the video I see why they were confused; your explanation of the neurographic line was later followed by using straight angular lines when you were showing colouring techniques. There are other anomalies in your video but this comment too long already! My advice to viewers is take what you want or need from neurographic videos and use it in a way that best serves your needs. My journey has been one of learning, experimenting, teaching and a heap of fun.
Neurographica is a psychological method whether iit used for therapy or coaching. I am a certified Neurographica instructor and that gives me right to guide and teach. Helping people to use Neurographica in the correct way is my altimate goal. When it comes to Neuroart there is a freedome to do whatever they want, but not with Neurographica. You said you have been using Neurographica- are you a certified teacher? If you are not than my advice is to get certified before giving advices to the certified instructor.
Lynette, I agree about the angular coloring lines. Certified or not, they go against the "rule" of rounding and create a disturbing visual in the entirety of the rounded piece. Creating "Conflict" that the artist is trying to resolve with this type of "therapy" I have watched many "teachers" on the subject. At my age, I question everyone and everything! Continuing on. 💐😎
@@AmarnaNeuroart I am new to this art as therapy. I read this reply and thought immediately how it could have been worded in a more gentle way. You might be good at art but expressing yourself in words is an art too. I understand English isn’t your mother tongue and why I feel a need to point this out.
@@AmarnaNeuroart I agree with you here. The psychological part of the technique of neurographic art is the difference. You are teaching the psychological neurographic technique spot on. Otherwise, others may do what is a freeform kinda technique of mosaics style that can be fun. Anyway, I'm sorry that some comments were a bit harsh here to you. That's sad. But there is alot to being certified in neurographic. Neuroscience and patterns play a part. Neurons traveling along the dendrites, axions , connections ect. Anyway, I really enjoyed your teaching and I very much like the results of your art pictures you created 😊
I do agree with certified art teacher. If you need to calm and relax then go doodle anything you want,, this is a “scientific approach”.. and it works! I think people are so arrogant and disrespectful in this country, and we have been taught we know it all. If you want true benefit from a proven method you must follow the rules for a reason… if you just want to relax and doodle go for it, no one says not too, but you are not taking the full benefits of neurographia
When telling people they’re doing something incorrectly it’d be helpful and less likely to upset people if you could explain why. Using words like “wrong” and “bad” are judgments that have a triggering effect which is risky when instructing art of this nature which people are drawn to as part of their healing process. Perhaps Try: instead of doing this I encourage you to do this instead and this is why. Coming from a teaching background. Thank you for taking the time to try to help others.
Yes. Precisely. I have tried listening to this a few times, and have muted it. I’m not a Bad Girl in Kindergarten. It’s a good how-to do neurographic art, and an excellent how-not-to teach people anything. :) I’ve done a lot of teaching, mostly children, some adults. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 😊 (Quick science: One does not, in fact, catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Raw vinegar attracts flies. Haha!)
Why is there someone always telling you "how"? This is art to have you "let go"! There is no "correct" in art! Only YOUR expression of it, lady! Besides when you start anything there are example of learning in each effort, like practice. Just let go & have fun getting lost in creating!
But she's teaching a specific way in which she was taught and has certification for. There is Neurographica and neurographic art. Both are similar but different. If you don't like her way, go find another channel
Saying that it's correct or incorrect really rubs me the wrong way.Isn't it supposed to be relaxing and fun? If there are too many restrictions involved in anything, people lose interest.Most of the work I've seen is uninteresting, even ugly.Everyone is unique, and their art will also be unique.Color sensitivity is a whole different subject.
Neurographica is different from Neuroart. When you draw in Neuroart style you can do whatever you wish. But.. classic Neurographica requires a certain way of drawing. It is a psychological work married with neuroscience and NLP, thus it requires to follow the rules
Individuals have the choice to follow one discipline or something they make up. Not every method is for everyone. I have found this works for me. May you find what works for you.
All people who want to use this art form, in the therapeutic way they’ve been doing it, are interested in being guided by someone using neurolinguistic programming to do so. At no time, until coming to this channel have I heard word one about NLP.
I totally agree, it really rubbed me the wrong way as well. The author suggests looking at her earlier videos where she explains it in detail but I’m so put off by this video that I won’t . There are so many others out there that are much more positive.
@@womensarmycorpsveteran2904 This “teacher” said this is married Neurolinguistic Programming. I’m like, that’s really super! I don’t make art in a programmed fashion, nor am I interested in NLP! She said, “you need to understand the algorithms, or it’s not going to benefit you.” I was just flummoxed! I’m not a computer. 😂 All kidding aside, I have heard from some people that they understand it, and that it helps them, so I can’t really knock it. Not a lot about this is made clear. Here on TH-cam, many, many people believe they’re doing NeuroGraphic Art. What many are doing is considered “NeuroArt.” It’s based on NG art, but isn’t considered NG Art, since you don’t follow the rules. I’ve seriously seen a lot of people do something that’s like a hybrid of NG Art and Zentangle. It’s pretty cool. I think there is something about rounding out the sharp intersections that I find relaxing, for sure. But, isn’t all art beneficial to the one doing it, in some way? I don’t know. I’ve had fun with it. I’m in the no rules at all area with it, however. I sort of think everyone should do their own thing, but I do understand that this technical process is helpful. I just don’t like to be told, “you’re doing it all wrong, here’s where you’re making mistakes thing.” As soon as I hear that, I’m pretty sure we aren’t talking about art anymore! 😂 But, that’s just me. Have a great evening, or whatever it is where you are!
As soon as one adds rules to an art form designed to eliminate stress, you are actually adding to one’s stress level until they master the art form and it’s rules.
That is not necessarily so. Think of Mandalas, for example, which have very strict rules. In meditations like that it is exactly following those complex rules that gives the focus to empty the mind from stress and distractions etc. Now there are other forms, for example colouring in, where there are fewer rules that can be happily broken. This is new to me, so I am not sure, yet, what the original instructions were in 2014, but I would think the original developer of the technique has the final say. What does he say about rules in his publications (in translation, if course)
I can see that your rules work, but it would have been interesting to know the why. What is the changed effect, and how important is each rule? Also, as a mosaicist, I just have to say that your understanding of mosaics is wrong. Mosaics apart from a few techniques, follow the flow. Always, as in the lines here.and colours can be stretched across larger areas while the spaces in between the lines give us sections, just as here. You can work with gradations, and you can let coloured materials from one area 'bleed' into the next, so that our eyes can perceive them as mixed colour. Check out modern Italian mosaics.
Totally. I feel like the art is not my own. I think it would be fine to make suggestions and explain why and then allow free reign to let the subconscious flow .
I agree. It should be calm and sincere therapy, where you express yourself with the movement of your hand. But this lady with a Russian accent is trying to convince people in the video that they should also pretend and do insincere things.
Your own examples of what you say is a "correct" way of coloring in circles shows plenty of circles that have multiple colors and are NOT cohesive as you insist they should be to be the "correct" way. I THOUGHT this so-called art therapy would help me through some of my darkest times. What brought me peace, calmness and made me feel better after creating was ripped apart by neurographica communities. Almost made me stop art completely until I realized the truth. I saw so many people praised for doing the same type of neurolines, shapes and coloring techniques that I was told were not correct in my attempts. These same "teachers/instructors" telling them they got it right. What ended up being the difference? I didn't pay a fee to be told how to draw lines and shapes based on my feelings and what calmed me or solved my issue or what I created that truly felt therapeutic to me. What that caused was stress. But....I'm a big girl. I did my research and found that every single neurographica instructor gave different rules or they would do a video like yours where you contradict your own rules. There are no rules in art. There is no wrong shape, line or color as long as the person creating them feels they have brought themselves peace. Neurographica is a $$$$ making practice taking advantage of people going through difficult times. Rules for emotions while holding a colorful marker and being told you're doing it wrong is a shame. Proving that two people creating similar lines, shapes and coloring techniques (one being wrong because they didn't pay money to someone while the other who succumbed to the pressure) is shameful. I suggest you watch your video again and see where you made your mistakes in "the correction areas". Better yet, maybe all the neurographica instructors should actually teach the same methods.
Neurographica is a very structured psycological method married with neuroscience and it has rules for achieving teh best results. What you are talking about is Neuroart. Neuroart had derived from Neurographica is just the art modulity and there people can do whatever they can creativly desire. But Neurographica is much deeper and much more psycological and there are rules there! I have not invented teh method but I am a certified Neurographica instructor and know what I am taking about.
Also, this channel is free - you either learn or not - if this is your believe just be it! I know how Neurographica changed my life and the lives of my students - so I wish all the best for you and whatever works for you!
I like the information and principles. Using 'wrong' makes the process more intimidating I believe there is a more positive language and describing the principles and process that makes this less intimidating for such a powerful mindfulness process with so much healing that people can take to their dreams to integrate
Sometimes the straightforward approach is easier, the explanation was clear and informative and this art has a purpose. I like the fact there was no time wasted with flowery words and excuses, just to the point. She is not disparaging anyone, just explaining the technique.
@cathymurray4134 it's the rules of this particular therapy formula. Do it , or don't. Stop using harsh words to give your opinion on something you aren't certified in. Simple.
I appreciate this video. I think it’s important to understand the difference between the purity of the Neurographica technique vs abstract art. For me the difference is very important to recognize, and when I follow the “rules” of Neurographica to the best of my ability (I’m a beginner) I get the most transformational benefit. It’s very different than how I feel when I create a piece of abstract art that is not Neurographica. That has been my experience as a beginner. This instructor is sharing her respect for the rules of the creator of Neurograohica and I very much appreciate her respect for the science behind the method.
When I teach art, I do not talk about mistakes. Rather, I demonstrate how to fix areas students feel like they’ve messed up. I tell them there really is nothing they can do to mess up.
Well apparently I wasn’t doing neurographic art because I enjoy the curvy lines and also like to lay watercolor paint down and let it flow the way it wants to before I draw my curvy intersecting lines. All this is very pleasing and gets me in a flow state. I then proceed to round the sharp corners. After that, I grab various Ink pens and will do some doodling in some of the areas. I have osteoarthritis and in pain every day. When I’m working at my neurographic art and doodles, it distracts me from my pain. It also relieves my stress of the day and calms my anxiety. Yes, I’m a hot mess right now. While I appreciate that you are trying to help people “do it the right way”, the right way seems more stressful and I can’t imagine it being meditative at all. No offense but the jaggedness of your lines does not feel right to me personally. I think I will stick to my way.
Please correct me if I’m mistaken but I thought Neurographic Art, NeuroArt for short did not follow the rules that are the foundation of the Neurographica teachings? NeuroArt is more informal, art base not art therapy. There is widespread confusion about these modalities If I’m understanding this, there are no mistakes in NeuroArt or Neurographic.
Yes, you are right. NeuroArt is only for artistic expression, it is not intended for art therapy as Neurographica does. But, like with any art expressions, it can be therapeutical as any art modality. But for the deep therapy and coaching only Neurographica can be used for that
Neurographica is different from Neuroart - in Neuroart you can do whatever you want, it is a simplified form of Neurographica. If you really want to work deep on yourself - Neurographica is the way and there are a strict rules there
@@UnoHoo1so instead of complaining and disparaging someone who knows this art form and the reason for it, move along and create what you want. Maybe this channel, this creator and this form of therapy is not for you. You are not being forced to be here but you sure have a lot of negative comments. 😡
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realise there were rules. If you want this to be meditative, you allow people to do whatever they want, in whatever way they want. Whatever makes them feel good.
Leonne, in Neuroart you don't have rules, just use neurolines and rounding. Neurohraphica is married to psychology, NLP, and neuroscience, and rules are required there for achieving good results in whatever you are working on! I hope this is clear
@@cynthiahillian well, the ones who would like to deep dive into the method can differentiate the pleasurable art from transformative psychological practice using simple art algorithms that lead to self-transformation - there is a difference!
Agree completely, Leonna. I'm just introduced to the concept of neurographic anything. The concept is facinating. The potentials amazing. "You 'should' never..." This video's premises seems much in conflict with the basic tennets of neuro-graphic expression and the gains available thereby. And yes, tho I won't receive a notification of, I expect the presenter to dissent in her comment response to this. All who pause here and who are looking for self understanding and growth, be well. You are strong.
@@AmarnaNeuroart For sure!! And I am enjoying the discovery... And would like a deeper dive on the science behind it without paying for a class Thanks for your shares!!
I think the audience would better understand the rules of “don’t do this, you must do this” if you explain the why? Doesn’t the correct algorithm that you teach, help with the energy flow thru neurons to axioms to help solve discord?
As a beginning “Doodler” myself - I recently discovered, from an online chart, that I’ve actually been an ARTIST all along! The chart showed the difference in how a non-artist is restricted, and the natural “Artist” is free-flowing - and that’s me! Since learning this, I have accepted it as “My Truth”! And my friends have been affirming/acknowledging it to me! So now I “label” myself An Artist! And I feel so confident in that! So my suggestion: “Give it a GO!” I feel that God has given this gift to me - at the age of 70!!!
As a lifelong coodler myself I appreciate your comment. I too now call myself an Artist and loving my creativity. Everyone is really an artist in something. Follow the "rules" or not, but be yourself.
Omg! WHY??is there some psychological benefit to following these rules?? The best thing about this as an art form is also the opportunity to create art that is personal, no rules! I wish the person making this video could explain why it’s right or wrong! What am I missing?
I recently became interested in the neurographic art style. #1 was helpful to me. I Want to relax with the process. Taking my time, going slowing, thinking about what i see in nature were all positive directions.. #2 the key word i heard was mindful.. #3 will take more thought😄. Integrating sections together or cohesion in color does look much better. Thanks for pointing all this out. I'll have to refer back to this video no doubt😄 Have a delightful evening🙋🌺
Certainly! We just need to be mindful of diferences between Neuroart and Neurographica. Neurographica is a psycological method of self-transformation, it requires us to follow certain rules designed by teh author of the method for our own sake - to get the best possible results! It is journey for sure!
This is why there is a distinction between neurographica and neurographic art. Both are fun. I see the benefit of following the rules for pure neurographica. I also love incorporating art into the lines because it is really more about just relieving stress and the psychological aspect of creating the lines. I founds the right/wrong method language a tad off putting, I appreciate the importance of these rules more after watching.
You are correct in some of your guild lines to follow but I was taught years ago oval shapes were acceptable compared to your perfect or near perfect circles. People are always coming up with new rules.
Thank you so much for teaching me more about the principles of Neurographic Art. I went to TH-cam to learn more about it and am happy to have found specific information from someone who actually knows about the science behind this fascinating method. Very helpful - thank you!
I agree with a lot of the other comments....that art shouldn’t have rules and people should feel free to create art in a way that they like and in a way that is beneficial to them. I think although it may not have been intentional, the video came across as being very critical. I believe art is subjective and I have a hard time placing values of right or wrong, correct or incorrect....on something that is very personal. That said, I understand there is a therapeutic benefit to this particular type of art and maybe it’s important to make that distinction and clarify that to gain the most benefits from creating in this way, it’s important to follow certain rules in the process, as determined by the original creator.
I enjoyed this. if you're going to engage in something, do it the way it was intended to do it. seems like people's issues came out while watching the video. it was very helpful. thank you
I was uder the impression this was a completely personal journey, and it did not really matter what the lines looked like or where they started and finished. After all it is a therapeutic journey not one with rules!
If this were the first video or first understanding of neurographic art I would be discouraged. With that said I understand the perspective of this artist. So, if this is your first intro don't be discouraged. Remember YOUR PERSONAL perspective and do what works for you. Be well.
I agree with Leanne, I believe that there should be no right or wrong in this process as it is meant to be meditative, therapeutic and personal process. Using words such as rules, incorrect, mistake, wrong, etc detracts from this open-minded process massively. The end result/destination is not meant to be so precious or important, more the process of doing and acting instinctively, thus drawing from within.
There is a process and a result with neurographic art. If someone chooses to doodle or scribble, that is certainly their choice but it is not neurographic and the result is not the same.
Well, the rules have been designed by teh author of Neurographica to get the best results when we work on self-transformation. They are not nessesary just for the art component. So-called Neuroart was derived from Neurographica is an esier way to learn the artistic part, it may have theraputical aspect but you cannot compare it with Neurographica!
Doodle - yes, Neuroart - yes, but Neurographica is a complex psycological method, the author had designed the rules for the best outcome - this is why I offer Level 1 - come and learn and then everything will be clear
I thought this type of art technique & its lines, is to be left to the artist discretion. Its supposed to be an art form using free thinking so to speak. Who determines what is the correct curve or wave of line? If I am doin the exact same shapes as everyone else, then where is individuality of the art?
Recently I've learned of this art. I've been watching other videos and all of them didn't explain it the way you did. As much as it's pleasurable it's also somewhat controlled, in that you're using your mind to see things a certain way. I'm not explaining that very well. 😂 I'm so happy this video popped up for me. I shared it on Pinterest and I'm excited to give it a go. When I have more time I look forward to checking out more of your videos. ❤️ thank you so much for all of the great information!
I'm new to this but I recognized early there is a difference between neorographic art and neorographic therapy. For me neorographic art made me feel anxious, trying to figure how to make all those loops. For the therapy graphics I felt looser. I didn't worry about where to put anything, just lines going anywhere, wandering about. I can't explain why, but for me this is the way it is. Also, when I started rounding, the process felt meditative, especially when I realized I didn't have to round every crossover. I just remind myself that nature doesn't make abrupt turns but it does at times bifurcate. Learning the difference takes away the anxiety of trying to round anything that looks like 2 lines crossing. These are just my thoughts, and I appreciate your video because it showed me what I was seeing is the difference between neorographic art and neorographic therapy. Both are valid imo and it helps when I'm doing it for artwork vs therapeutic meditation.
@@AmarnaNeuroart Yes. That's why I had to differentiate therapy vs art. Again the "therapy" was more free flowing, meditative, in the present. Any line or circle was ok no mistakes. When I tried art mode I became tense because I started to feel I had to do everything right. With therapy mode I may sketch an idea but after that anything goes. Very liberating and my therapist agrees. Thx.
Thank you for this clear and informative video explaining the rules. Nice short video explaining the rules behind this science. I find the negative comments unhelpful and some are just unnecessarily rude. I am fascinated by this art form and am very happy to have some explanation on how to do it. Thank you Amarna 😊
Another thing, yes there are rules in art when working with lines, colors, shapes, shading, etc. However, it's ok to learn these rules and then throw the rules out of the window--if you so choose to as an artist. This type of art should be "stress-free" not creating stress by trying to get all the lines and shapes correct. That's my "two cents" on the issue. ♥
I agree some of the negative comments aren’t helpful, I do understand some of the frustration. I work with Autism and this peaks my interest. I am curious if the “guidelines or rules” are for specific reasons. I guess what I am asking is, is this technique helpful only when doing a specific way or if the guidelines are for esthetic? Thank you🙏
Thankyou for explaining the right way for this art form, I’m guilty with the coloring I’ll have to practice more but I’m really getting good at rounding.😊
I think that everything that you presented in this video is absolutely CORRECT 100%. I am very new to neurographics and I had no clue on what its all about. Your suggestions really give a clear guideline when and how to correctly apply this technique. I am a person who has a tendency for anxieties and this art for therapy or otherwise makes doing neurographics very mindful and cohesive. I am thankful that you made such a video. It made me much more aware of how to create better art in the neurographics techniques. Thank you.
Wonderful explanation … I like the principles simply because if you want it to be meditative and healing this would seem the best and most beautiful way to do it❤
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I’m in love with neurographic art. It’s meditative, therapeutic, and creates new neural pathways in our brains. ❤
I believe I was present at the beginning of this Neurographic concept/technique - As a young child, sitting on my bedroom floor, for hours (sent to my room, being “punished”) with paper pad, pencils and crayons - I lazily drew lines that randomly crossed. Then I selected random colors to fill in the closed areas. It never dawned on me that this related to any scientific concept. I just loved spending quiet time alone and enjoying the experience.
5:54 What if I’m making a mindful oval or a mindful egg shape? I don’t see why you are calling these incorrect. Messy, I understand. But an incorrect shape? If you were my kids’ schoolteacher, I would literally pull them, over this one class sample alone… In fact, we did pull our kids and homeschooled. Did we do it perfectly? Far from it. But they knew they were absolutely loved, and we championed them. Learning was emphasized, not failure. This created an environment in which they eagerly wanted to learn, rather than dreaded what the teacher was going to say (scold) next. Lexicon and word selection matters if you want your audience to truly succeed. And in this instance, if you want a growing TH-cam audience. I am wondering if there is a cultural aspect/barrier in our understanding of your harsh communication? I hear an accent that is not from my area, so am just trying to factor that in as a possibility… perhaps in your culture it is how you communicate and form sentences in your language to adults, and it wouldn’t be considered harsh or inappropriate. Your content (the art do’s and don’ts) is great!
I’m a 78-yr-old artist. I understand the basic concept, but the rules are so restrictive. I think trying to conform to strict rules would make someone more anxious than relaxed. I’ve been doodling for most of my life. I started by creating designs in the margins of my notebooks in high school. I usually started by overlapping lines, then created patterns in each space. Later I carried several sheets of drawing paper.in my notebooks, so I could save my designs instead of hiding them in a notebook on lined paper. I sometimes start with shapes and sometimes with lines. Or I might start with one shape, add a pattern, then connect another shape. I might start a design one day and work on it for several days. I even insert little hidden images sometimes, maybe leaves or flowers, or something I see while I’m drawing, a mug, spoon, pencil, or paper clip.. I was doing zentangle before it was a thing. Now, I am more likely to skip the patterns and concentrate on color, with perhaps some texture. And I might even add some collage or thicker paper shapes. All of these designs have been relaxing for me. It’s especially fun for me to create them while I listen to music, a podcast, or audiobook, or even watching a favorite movie that I’ve seen before, so I don’t have to watch it closely. Also great when in a lecture. I’ve heard that doodling actually helps one retained a lecture’s content.
I prefer mine to be free style and without rules. That way, it reflects what I'm feeling in that moment better. Adding rules and saying what others "should" or "shouldn't" do, or what's "correct" or "incorrect" only adds more stress when this art form is meant to relax you. However, I do agree with you with the no rush part. Take a breath and let your wrist or hand draw for you.
I think part of the problem people are having with your rules is that you titled the video "NeuroGraphic Art" instead of "Neurographica." You also only mention the term once in your instructions. How can you expect people to know you're specifically referring to the therapeutic technique if you use the wrong terminology yourself?
I can not for the life of make sure all of my lines in the middle match up/round out so they look like a 4 point start instead of a wonky rectangle. Any tips? Sharpies too fat and bleed and regular pens skip.
There are NO mistakes in art. You do you, and let the rest of us be free in whatever form our neurographic art takes. You should take this video down, and think about how your right/wrong approach is negative and damaging to people who are trying to have less stress in their lives, not more.
I am very sorry you are going thru a bad time. Art and pain is expressed differently by different people. Calling peoples pain wrong or bad is less than kind. Blessings
@@AmarnaNeuroart we r all experiencing difficulty. I have listened to many of your videos and today u sounded very...Tired? Strick? Learning to face pai. Is hard..my personal feeling is to support all who even try...sorry , you are dear to me.
@@jeannemason6416 oh no! I am good, I just wanted to point out mistakes that people make in Neurographica so they can improve their skills. Thank you for carrying, I didn't feel any different!
I do not understand the negative comments. Every form art has guidelines, you can follow them or not. If you just want freestyle, then why not doodle? The instructor is simply explaining the tools needed to be successful. I think she did a great job.
Uh, since neurographic art was created precisely to get out of your head and stop freaking out about "mistakes"....that is why it is weird to have someone "warn" about "mistakes".
It all depends on what you're looking for. I'm a beginner and I wanted to be guided by someone who is a certified graduate teacher of the Pavel Piskarov Psychology of Creativity Institute. There are many people on YT teaching what they call "neurographic art." I found what I was looking for after doing some research.
There is a pdf when you take Level 1 course - and it is Neurographica - please watch my video at the top of my channel it talks about the method and the teacher
She’s telling you that when you wrote a word, you also did that wrong. I suggest that you find a more relaxing, peaceful place for ANY form of art which you want to be therapeutic.
If you like to someone to completely demotivate you, by all means, listen to her going on and on how your art is all wrong. For heaven’s sake, this video should come with a warning! Big hug to all of you loving the calmness of no-mistakes-neurographic art 🤗
Neurographica, as a therapeutic art form, combines creativity with structured techniques to tap into the brain's potential for transformation and self-improvement. While it might seem counterintuitive to impose rules on an inherently creative process, there are several compelling reasons to adhere to the established guidelines of Neurographica: 1. Scientific Basis: Neurographica is grounded in psychological and neuroscientific principles. The structured approach is designed to engage specific neural pathways, promoting cognitive and emotional shifts. The rules are there to ensure that the practice aligns with these scientific foundations, maximizing the therapeutic benefits. 2. Consistency and Predictability: Following the established methods of Neurographica helps ensure that the outcomes are consistent and predictable. This consistency is crucial for both practitioners and participants to understand and trust the process, making it easier to measure and replicate results. 3. Structured Creativity: Rules in Neurographica don't stifle creativity; rather, they channel it in a way that enhances the therapeutic experience. The guidelines provide a framework within which creativity can flourish, often leading to more profound insights and breakthroughs than unstructured art might. 4. Focused Intent: The specific steps and rules in Neurographica help practitioners and participants maintain a focused intent throughout the process. This focus is essential for addressing particular psychological issues or achieving specific therapeutic goals. 5. Enhanced Engagement: For many people, the structured approach can enhance engagement with the process. The clear steps and objectives can make it easier for individuals to commit to and stay involved in the practice, which is essential for experiencing its full benefits. To those who feel that rules take away from the therapeutic potential of Neurographica, it's important to recognize that structure and freedom are not mutually exclusive. The guidelines in Neurographica are there to support and enhance the creative process, not to limit it. By understanding and following these rules, participants can potentially unlock deeper levels of personal transformation and healing that might not be accessible through unstructured methods. In essence, the structured approach of Neurographica is akin to the principles behind other forms of therapeutic practice, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy or mindfulness meditation, where specific techniques are used to achieve desired outcomes. Embracing the rules can be seen as a way to harness the full power of this innovative therapeutic art form.
Oh my goodness why so many rules??!! This is supposed to be a form of relaxing art therapy - surely it is about participation and reducing anxiety rather than worrying about rules?! Art is about self expression not rules. Who cares if you do it one way or the other? Take what you want from the ‘rules’ and do it your own way!
Art is art. No matter what, its theraputic even with rules or guidelunes. Theres the rule iof rounding right ? I apreciate others perspective. and Im open minded to all techniques . I dont mind learning from others perspective, as far as Im concerned, thats called growth
"Sooo... you were just casually doing your neurographic art your own way, getting a buzz out of the freedom of expression? NO! YOU'RE WRONG! Put those goddamn pens down RIGHT NOW, and learn how to follow the goddamn RULES, you lackadaisal anarchist, you!" Okay, that might've been a bit TOO snarky, but honestly... isn't the whole point of neurographic art how it makes you FEEL when you're doing it? How can something be therapeutic when you're introducing this idea that it MUST be done THIS WAY or you're doing it all wrong? Sure, by all means give it STEPS and PROCESSES to follow; I know from my own perspective that having those steps and processes are a huge part of what takes the stress and over-expectation out of producing a piece, removing the existential despair of staring at a blank page 'not knowing what to draw.' But when you're taking it to a level of metaphorically slapping the tools out of a person's hand and screaming "NO! NOT like THAT! Like THIS!" isn't there a risk you're actually crushing the confidence of the very people this art form is designed to help?
Good point! When I watched this video it reminded me of the old school teachers trying to tell kids they were wrong for writing or drawing left handed.
Informative, thank you. I wasn’t aware there was a distinction of Neuroart and Neurographica. I think people are getting confused with two hence the hateful comments. I’m sorry you are having to deal with that. As a stage 4 cancer patient I probably need to follow the guidance of Neurographica so I will look into it more. I much prefer the type of colouring you showed too. If I may offer a tip also, one way to produce a random, non-repetative line is to put a penny in front of the marker and push it to draw. It helps.i
Neuroart is derived from Neurographica as a simiplified form of Neurographica, more artistic, apparently. I have not used a penny in my practice and I don't recommend it
@@AmarnaNeuroart The penny helps with no repetitive lines. I notice your lines are repetitive at the start of the video even though you stated you weren’t doing repetitive, hence why I mentioned the tip. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with using a penny because the fact is that it helps whether you recommend it or not.
There is a wrong way of doing this. Wow that is not theraphy. That is your way that is not how you are suppose to do it. You are being critical of others they are wrong. This is a right way. You are very wrong my dear. People learn differently and you dont take that in consideration. There are guidelines yes but not Rules. That is not theraphy part of nerotheraphy. I totally am upset about the attitude about this theraphy art.
Chantal - there is a Neurographica and there is Neuroart. In Neuroart you are free to do whatever you want just keeping some elements from Neurographica, but Neurographica is a psycological method married with neuroscience. It requires rules to follow
I realise you dont understand what I am saying so never mind. But I have been doing it and it really does help me. I do thank you so much for introducing this amazing theraphy I enjoy it it relaxes me I create and feel good. And that is what is important. Thank you
You’re giving all these “rules” and saying it’s wrong or incorrect, really defeats the purpose of this technique. You’re giving rules, but you’re not giving any explanation as to why your rules apply. I’m going to try and forget what I’ve just seen & heard and hopefully continue enjoying the process. I’m not trying to be mean, but it comes across very judgmental and condescending. You didn’t even explain the rounding process, which is to make the intersection of lines look like neutrons. Edit: neurons.
I'm happy to see this video. This makes more integrated connections and very nice looking neurographic art. I've been pretty mindful but the coloring in regional integration with correct connections at the points produce much better results. Creative
I only got a third of the way into this video and I felt that I was being chastised like a child. This is supposed to be calming, therapeutic, enjoyable, fun. No one should say you are wrong or breaking "rules" when creating. It made me want to stop doing something that was bringing me joy. No way, thank you.
Don't stop. Do it your way. Be your own artist.
In the teachings of Pavel Piskarov the founder of Neurographica there is a protocol that has been tested for many years with many people and put in place for very specific reasons and consciousness raising outcomes. You start with a theme and while you are drawing in a specific way you turn your problems into beauty. It would be to your benefit to follow the protocol but if you don't want to follow the Neurographica guidelines nobody has any desire to make you. Neurographica isn't about drawing pretty pictures and at times it may even cause some temporary distress as you move through past unhealed issues and actually change the neurons in your brain to expand your mind and achieve more than you ever have before.
@@angellight9500 Thank you. I was enjoying making this art. I smiled each time I finished a picture. I felt I was being told I was doing it wrong.
Exactly what I wrote. She needs to be kept away from traumatized people. It's like she has a life sucking demon in her.
I thourght that it should be spasmodic without any predetermined plan
I don't think that making a stipulation of right and wrong is condusive to one's ability to let go and have the lines and colors guide and choose us-rather than we them.. If we give ourselves the freedom of knowing that there are no mistakes, the creative processes and revelations that result can really be profound. Children draw like this...they are the most honest artists. They let the colors dictate which ones to use, there are no mistakes to correct, they really don't care who likes or dislikes their work and they know when they are done (something that I struggle with and overwork things)
I only got 30 seconds into this video and my inner child wanted to move to another classroom with the nice teacher who doesn't always make me wrong..
spoke my mind!
Some people need rules to function, however often when trying to sort out life issues through art therapy it’s preferable to limit the rules and just encourage participation. ❤️
True, but Neurographica is different! It is not 100% art therapy, although it has components of therapy. The rules have been created by the author of the method and when you implement them you see what difference they make! My students report on a daily basis how following the correct algorithms changing their results to the better outcome
This, don't focus on outcomes, otherwise you wouldn't use a Sharpie in the first place ;’)
i agree to some extent, but in some cases it should not be called neurographic art though
@@AmarnaNeuroartit is kind of medecin, isn't it.
So, your instructions are like a prescription, it is how I see that.
Thank you..I tried it without instructions alone (I saw dr.Piskarov doing it) and now I recognized the first one..then all other mistakes.
It is much more clear now, I am going to draw with your advices.
I couldn't agree more, well said
I have used neurgraphics for several months, both as a therapy and as art. My therapy pieces that deal with a specific problem, usually end up as art anyway, but sometimes I create artworks for fun, using some of the algorithms and ignoring others. Reading the comments showed that many of the viewers were confused as to which were prescribed algorithms to be used in the THERAPY and what is used when using the method to make an art work. Rewatching the video I see why they were confused; your explanation of the neurographic line was later followed by using straight angular lines when you were showing colouring techniques. There are other anomalies in your video but this comment too long already! My advice to viewers is take what you want or need from neurographic videos and use it in a way that best serves your needs. My journey has been one of learning, experimenting, teaching and a heap of fun.
Neurographica is a psychological method whether iit used for therapy or coaching. I am a certified Neurographica instructor and that gives me right to guide and teach. Helping people to use Neurographica in the correct way is my altimate goal. When it comes to Neuroart there is a freedome to do whatever they want, but not with Neurographica. You said you have been using Neurographica- are you a certified teacher? If you are not than my advice is to get certified before giving advices to the certified instructor.
Lynette, I agree about the angular coloring lines. Certified or not, they go against the "rule" of rounding and create a disturbing visual in the entirety of the rounded piece. Creating "Conflict" that the artist is trying to resolve with this type of "therapy"
I have watched many "teachers" on the subject. At my age, I question everyone and everything!
Continuing on. 💐😎
@@AmarnaNeuroart I am new to this art as therapy. I read this reply and thought immediately how it could have been worded in a more gentle way. You might be good at art but expressing yourself in words is an art too. I understand English isn’t your mother tongue and why I feel a need to point this out.
@@AmarnaNeuroart I agree with you here. The psychological part of the technique of neurographic art is the difference. You are teaching the psychological neurographic technique spot on. Otherwise, others may do what is a freeform kinda technique of mosaics style that can be fun. Anyway, I'm sorry that some comments were a bit harsh here to you. That's sad. But there is alot to being certified in neurographic. Neuroscience and patterns play a part. Neurons traveling along the dendrites, axions , connections ect. Anyway, I really enjoyed your teaching and I very much like the results of your art pictures you created 😊
I do agree with certified art teacher. If you need to calm and relax then go doodle anything you want,, this is a “scientific approach”.. and it works! I think people are so arrogant and disrespectful in this country, and we have been taught we know it all. If you want true benefit from a proven method you must follow the rules for a reason… if you just want to relax and doodle go for it, no one says not too, but you are not taking the full benefits of neurographia
When telling people they’re doing something incorrectly it’d be helpful and less likely to upset people if you could explain why. Using words like “wrong” and “bad” are judgments that have a triggering effect which is risky when instructing art of this nature which people are drawn to as part of their healing process. Perhaps Try: instead of doing this I encourage you to do this instead and this is why. Coming from a teaching background. Thank you for taking the time to try to help others.
Yes. Precisely. I have tried listening to this a few times, and have muted it. I’m not a Bad Girl in Kindergarten. It’s a good how-to do neurographic art, and an excellent how-not-to teach people anything. :) I’ve done a lot of teaching, mostly children, some adults. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 😊 (Quick science: One does not, in fact, catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Raw vinegar attracts flies. Haha!)
Why is there someone always telling you "how"? This is art to have you "let go"! There is no "correct" in art! Only YOUR expression of it, lady! Besides when you start anything there are example of learning in each effort, like practice. Just let go & have fun getting lost in creating!
But she's teaching a specific way in which she was taught and has certification for. There is Neurographica and neurographic art. Both are similar but different. If you don't like her way, go find another channel
Saying that it's correct or incorrect really rubs me the wrong way.Isn't it supposed to be relaxing and fun? If there are too many restrictions involved in anything, people lose interest.Most of the work I've seen is uninteresting, even ugly.Everyone is unique, and their art will also be unique.Color sensitivity is a whole different subject.
Neurographica is different from Neuroart. When you draw in Neuroart style you can do whatever you wish. But.. classic Neurographica requires a certain way of drawing. It is a psychological work married with neuroscience and NLP, thus it requires to follow the rules
Individuals have the choice to follow one discipline or something they make up. Not every method is for everyone. I have found this works for me. May you find what works for you.
All people who want to use this art form, in the therapeutic way they’ve been doing it, are interested in being guided by someone using neurolinguistic programming to do so. At no time, until coming to this channel have I heard word one about NLP.
I totally agree, it really rubbed me the wrong way as well. The author suggests looking at her earlier videos where she explains it in detail but I’m so put off by this video that I won’t . There are so many others out there that are much more positive.
@@womensarmycorpsveteran2904 This “teacher” said this is married Neurolinguistic Programming. I’m like, that’s really super! I don’t make art in a programmed fashion, nor am I interested in NLP! She said, “you need to understand the algorithms, or it’s not going to benefit you.” I was just flummoxed! I’m not a computer. 😂
All kidding aside, I have heard from some people that they understand it, and that it helps them, so I can’t really knock it. Not a lot about this is made clear. Here on TH-cam, many, many people believe they’re doing NeuroGraphic Art. What many are doing is considered “NeuroArt.” It’s based on NG art, but isn’t considered NG Art, since you don’t follow the rules. I’ve seriously seen a lot of people do something that’s like a hybrid of NG Art and Zentangle. It’s pretty cool. I think there is something about rounding out the sharp intersections that I find relaxing, for sure. But, isn’t all art beneficial to the one doing it, in some way? I don’t know. I’ve had fun with it. I’m in the no rules at all area with it, however. I sort of think everyone should do their own thing, but I do understand that this technical process is helpful. I just don’t like to be told, “you’re doing it all wrong, here’s where you’re making mistakes thing.” As soon as I hear that, I’m pretty sure we aren’t talking about art anymore! 😂 But, that’s just me. Have a great evening, or whatever it is where you are!
As soon as one adds rules to an art form designed to eliminate stress, you are actually adding to one’s stress level until they master the art form and it’s rules.
This is not an art form. Neurographica is something totally different. The art appears but is not the goal.
That is not necessarily so. Think of Mandalas, for example, which have very strict rules. In meditations like that it is exactly following those complex rules that gives the focus to empty the mind from stress and distractions etc. Now there are other forms, for example colouring in, where there are fewer rules that can be happily broken. This is new to me, so I am not sure, yet, what the original instructions were in 2014, but I would think the original developer of the technique has the final say. What does he say about rules in his publications (in translation, if course)
I can see that your rules work, but it would have been interesting to know the why. What is the changed effect, and how important is each rule? Also, as a mosaicist, I just have to say that your understanding of mosaics is wrong. Mosaics apart from a few techniques, follow the flow. Always, as in the lines here.and colours can be stretched across larger areas while the spaces in between the lines give us sections, just as here. You can work with gradations, and you can let coloured materials from one area 'bleed' into the next, so that our eyes can perceive them as mixed colour. Check out modern Italian mosaics.
Totally. I feel like the art is not my own. I think it would be fine to make suggestions and explain why and then allow free reign to let the subconscious flow .
I agree. It should be calm and sincere therapy, where you express yourself with the movement of your hand. But this lady with a Russian accent is trying to convince people in the video that they should also pretend and do insincere things.
Your own examples of what you say is a "correct" way of coloring in circles shows plenty of circles that have multiple colors and are NOT cohesive as you insist they should be to be the "correct" way. I THOUGHT this so-called art therapy would help me through some of my darkest times. What brought me peace, calmness and made me feel better after creating was ripped apart by neurographica communities. Almost made me stop art completely until I realized the truth. I saw so many people praised for doing the same type of neurolines, shapes and coloring techniques that I was told were not correct in my attempts. These same "teachers/instructors" telling them they got it right. What ended up being the difference? I didn't pay a fee to be told how to draw lines and shapes based on my feelings and what calmed me or solved my issue or what I created that truly felt therapeutic to me. What that caused was stress. But....I'm a big girl. I did my research and found that every single neurographica instructor gave different rules or they would do a video like yours where you contradict your own rules. There are no rules in art. There is no wrong shape, line or color as long as the person creating them feels they have brought themselves peace. Neurographica is a $$$$ making practice taking advantage of people going through difficult times. Rules for emotions while holding a colorful marker and being told you're doing it wrong is a shame. Proving that two people creating similar lines, shapes and coloring techniques (one being wrong because they didn't pay money to someone while the other who succumbed to the pressure) is shameful. I suggest you watch your video again and see where you made your mistakes in "the correction areas". Better yet, maybe all the neurographica instructors should actually teach the same methods.
Neurographica is a very structured psycological method married with neuroscience and it has rules for achieving teh best results. What you are talking about is Neuroart. Neuroart had derived from Neurographica is just the art modulity and there people can do whatever they can creativly desire. But Neurographica is much deeper and much more psycological and there are rules there! I have not invented teh method but I am a certified Neurographica instructor and know what I am taking about.
Also, this channel is free - you either learn or not - if this is your believe just be it! I know how Neurographica changed my life and the lives of my students - so I wish all the best for you and whatever works for you!
@Marsley Holderman Thank you so much! I’ve been struggling trying to say what you very eloquently just said.
I like the information and principles. Using 'wrong' makes the process more intimidating I believe there is a more positive language and describing the principles and process that makes this less intimidating for such a powerful mindfulness process with so much healing that people can take to their dreams to integrate
Sometimes the straightforward approach is easier, the explanation was clear and informative and this art has a purpose. I like the fact there was no time wasted with flowery words and excuses, just to the point. She is not disparaging anyone, just explaining the technique.
When I paint these art pieces, I don't like to be told it's wrong , art is notwrong
@cathymurray4134 it's the rules of this particular therapy formula. Do it , or don't. Stop using harsh words to give your opinion on something you aren't certified in. Simple.
Thank you for clarifying between Neuroart and NeuroGraphic Arts, very helpful!
I appreciate this video. I think it’s important to understand the difference between the purity of the Neurographica technique vs abstract art. For me the difference is very important to recognize, and when I follow the “rules” of Neurographica to the best of my ability (I’m a beginner) I get the most transformational benefit. It’s very different than how I feel when I create a piece of abstract art that is not Neurographica. That has been my experience as a beginner. This instructor is sharing her respect for the rules of the creator of Neurograohica and I very much appreciate her respect for the science behind the method.
When I teach art, I do not talk about mistakes. Rather, I demonstrate how to fix areas students feel like they’ve messed up. I tell them there really is nothing they can do to mess up.
I’ve heard that “there are no mistakes in “ART”’- just as “there are no mistakes in NATURE!”
Well apparently I wasn’t doing neurographic art because I enjoy the curvy lines and also like to lay watercolor paint down and let it flow the way it wants to before I draw my curvy intersecting lines. All this is very pleasing and gets me in a flow state. I then proceed to round the sharp corners. After that, I grab various
Ink pens and will do some doodling in some of the areas. I have osteoarthritis and in pain every day. When I’m working at my neurographic art and doodles, it distracts me from my pain. It also relieves my stress of the day and calms my anxiety. Yes, I’m a hot mess right now. While I appreciate that you are trying to help people “do it the right way”, the right way seems more stressful and I can’t imagine it being meditative at all. No offense but the jaggedness of your lines does not feel right to me personally. I think I will stick to my way.
Please correct me if I’m mistaken but I thought Neurographic Art, NeuroArt for short did not follow the rules that are the foundation of the Neurographica teachings? NeuroArt is more informal, art base not art therapy. There is widespread confusion about these modalities
If I’m understanding this, there are no mistakes in NeuroArt or Neurographic.
Yes, you are right. NeuroArt is only for artistic expression, it is not intended for art therapy as Neurographica does. But, like with any art expressions, it can be therapeutical as any art modality. But for the deep therapy and coaching only Neurographica can be used for that
There are no mistakes, that's exactly what I was thinking.
@@maverickspirit208 the mistakes I was covering is for Neurographica specifically
@@AmarnaNeuroart The name of this video is 5 Common Mistakes …..?
I got interested in this due to fact that I could use my own way of creating because there is no right or wrong way do it.
Neurographica is different from Neuroart - in Neuroart you can do whatever you want, it is a simplified form of Neurographica. If you really want to work deep on yourself - Neurographica is the way and there are a strict rules there
@@AmarnaNeuroart As soon as I hear the word, strict. I cease to be speaking about art. Therapeutic, or otherwise.
@@UnoHoo1so instead of complaining and disparaging someone who knows this art form and the reason for it, move along and create what you want. Maybe this channel, this creator and this form of therapy is not for you. You are not being forced to be here but you sure have a lot of negative comments. 😡
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realise there were rules. If you want this to be meditative, you allow people to do whatever they want, in whatever way they want. Whatever makes them feel good.
Leonne, in Neuroart you don't have rules, just use neurolines and rounding. Neurohraphica is married to psychology, NLP, and neuroscience, and rules are required there for achieving good results in whatever you are working on! I hope this is clear
It's not art guidelines or rules.. Pleasurable though it will be.. there are therapeutic gains from following the method.. Not rules, 💞
@@cynthiahillian well, the ones who would like to deep dive into the method can differentiate the pleasurable art from transformative psychological practice using simple art algorithms that lead to self-transformation - there is a difference!
Agree completely, Leonna. I'm just introduced to the concept of neurographic anything. The concept is facinating. The potentials amazing.
"You 'should' never..." This video's premises seems much in conflict with the basic tennets of neuro-graphic expression and the gains available thereby.
And yes, tho I won't receive a notification of, I expect the presenter to dissent in her comment response to this.
All who pause here and who are looking for self understanding and growth, be well. You are strong.
@@AmarnaNeuroart For sure!! And I am enjoying the discovery... And would like a deeper dive on the science behind it without paying for a class Thanks for your shares!!
I think the audience would better understand the rules of “don’t do this, you must do this” if you explain the why? Doesn’t the correct algorithm that you teach, help with the energy flow thru neurons to axioms to help solve discord?
I will, will do a video on this!
As a beginning “Doodler” myself -
I recently discovered, from an online chart, that I’ve actually been an ARTIST all along! The chart showed the difference in how a non-artist is restricted, and the natural “Artist” is free-flowing - and that’s me!
Since learning this, I have accepted it as “My Truth”!
And my friends have been affirming/acknowledging it to me!
So now I “label” myself An Artist! And I feel so confident in that!
So my suggestion: “Give it a GO!”
I feel that God has given this gift to me - at the age of 70!!!
Where did you find this chart?
As a lifelong coodler myself I appreciate your comment. I too now call myself an Artist and loving my creativity. Everyone is really an artist in something. Follow the "rules" or not, but be yourself.
Omg! WHY??is there some psychological benefit to following these rules?? The best thing about this as an art form is also the opportunity to create art that is personal, no rules! I wish the person making this video could explain why it’s right or wrong! What am I missing?
Yes, there are very effective psychological rules behind Neurographica - I am teaching all of it in my Level 1 course
Is it better to draw my own circles or trace them with a stencil? Also, can I listen to music while doing this art therapy? Thank you.
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I have trouble deciding which shapes and areas to color the same color. How do you decide?
I recently became interested in the neurographic art style. #1 was helpful to me. I Want to relax with the process. Taking my time, going slowing, thinking about what i see in nature were all positive directions.. #2 the key word i heard was mindful.. #3 will take more thought😄. Integrating sections together or cohesion in color does look much better. Thanks for pointing all this out. I'll have to refer back to this video no doubt😄 Have a delightful evening🙋🌺
Certainly! We just need to be mindful of diferences between Neuroart and Neurographica. Neurographica is a psycological method of self-transformation, it requires us to follow certain rules designed by teh author of the method for our own sake - to get the best possible results! It is journey for sure!
I agree whole heartedly. There are no rules. Art is art. There may be different styles but no right or wrong .
For Neuroart - no specific rules, but for Neurographica as a structured method designed to resolve deep psycological issues there are rules
This is why there is a distinction between neurographica and neurographic art. Both are fun. I see the benefit of following the rules for pure neurographica. I also love incorporating art into the lines because it is really more about just relieving stress and the psychological aspect of creating the lines. I founds the right/wrong method language a tad off putting, I appreciate the importance of these rules more after watching.
You are correct in some of your guild lines to follow but I was taught years ago oval shapes were acceptable compared to your perfect or near perfect circles. People are always coming up with new rules.
Oval shapes are not acceptable in Neurographica, circles only. But in Neuroart you can use any shapes
Thank you so much for teaching me more about the principles of Neurographic Art. I went to TH-cam to learn more about it and am happy to have found specific information from someone who actually knows about the science behind this fascinating method. Very helpful - thank you!
I agree with a lot of the other comments....that art shouldn’t have rules and people should feel free to create art in a way that they like and in a way that is beneficial to them. I think although it may not have been intentional, the video came across as being very critical. I believe art is subjective and I have a hard time placing values of right or wrong, correct or incorrect....on something that is very personal. That said, I understand there is a therapeutic benefit to this particular type of art and maybe it’s important to make that distinction and clarify that to gain the most benefits from creating in this way, it’s important to follow certain rules in the process, as determined by the original creator.
I eould reframe video from using "mistake" or "wrong". Show me the way by EXPLAINING the reason behind doing it the way you are demonstrating it.
I enjoyed this. if you're going to engage in something, do it the way it was intended to do it. seems like people's issues came out while watching the video. it was very helpful. thank you
I was uder the impression this was a completely personal journey, and it did not really matter what the lines looked like or where they started and finished. After all it is a therapeutic journey not one with rules!
If this were the first video or first understanding of neurographic art I would be discouraged. With that said I understand the perspective of this artist. So, if this is your first intro don't be discouraged. Remember YOUR PERSONAL perspective and do what works for you. Be well.
I agree with Leanne, I believe that there should be no right or wrong in this process as it is meant to be meditative, therapeutic and personal process. Using words such as rules, incorrect, mistake, wrong, etc detracts from this open-minded process massively. The end result/destination is not meant to be so precious or important, more the process of doing and acting instinctively, thus drawing from within.
There is a process and a result with neurographic art. If someone chooses to doodle or scribble, that is certainly their choice but it is not neurographic and the result is not the same.
Well, the rules have been designed by teh author of Neurographica to get the best results when we work on self-transformation. They are not nessesary just for the art component. So-called Neuroart was derived from Neurographica is an esier way to learn the artistic part, it may have theraputical aspect but you cannot compare it with Neurographica!
Doodle - yes, Neuroart - yes, but Neurographica is a complex psycological method, the author had designed the rules for the best outcome - this is why I offer Level 1 - come and learn and then everything will be clear
You speak of this art form as though it is done by a computer, not a human. Carry on. Im just not in the correct place, Thank you!
@@UnoHoo1 I think it is less an art form and more therapy.
I thought this type of art technique & its lines, is to be left to the artist discretion. Its supposed to be an art form using free thinking so to speak. Who determines what is the correct curve or wave of line? If I am doin the exact same shapes as everyone else, then where is individuality of the art?
I am a certified Instructor and follow my teacher's guidance. He determines what is right and what is wrong
@@AmarnaNeuroart Tip: Your programmer for the algorithms mixed-up. We are humans, here. We are not computers.
I loved this video I haven't attempted this art yet but you have inspired me to give this a try and so easy to follow
Thank-you
Recently I've learned of this art. I've been watching other videos and all of them didn't explain it the way you did. As much as it's pleasurable it's also somewhat controlled, in that you're using your mind to see things a certain way. I'm not explaining that very well. 😂
I'm so happy this video popped up for me. I shared it on Pinterest and I'm excited to give it a go.
When I have more time I look forward to checking out more of your videos. ❤️ thank you so much for all of the great information!
I'm new to this but I recognized early there is a difference between neorographic art and neorographic therapy. For me neorographic art made me feel anxious, trying to figure how to make all those loops. For the therapy graphics I felt looser. I didn't worry about where to put anything, just lines going anywhere, wandering about. I can't explain why, but for me this is the way it is. Also, when I started rounding, the process felt meditative, especially when I realized I didn't have to round every crossover. I just remind myself that nature doesn't make abrupt turns but it does at times bifurcate. Learning the difference takes away the anxiety of trying to round anything that looks like 2 lines crossing.
These are just my thoughts, and I appreciate your video because it showed me what I was seeing is the difference between neorographic art and neorographic therapy. Both are valid imo and it helps when I'm doing it for artwork vs therapeutic meditation.
Neurographic therapy is a great way to release negative emotions, it is based on psychology
@@AmarnaNeuroart Yes. That's why I had to differentiate therapy vs art. Again the "therapy" was more free flowing, meditative, in the present. Any line or circle was ok no mistakes. When I tried art mode I became tense because I started to feel I had to do everything right. With therapy mode I may sketch an idea but after that anything goes. Very liberating and my therapist agrees. Thx.
Is it okay to frame Neurographica art and enter it in juried art shows? Has anyone done this and how do you title your work?
I never considered this - but it does seem like a valid art form.
Any challengers?
I might call it “Random” and perhaps give each a number?!
Over 50 years ago , as a trainee teacher , I used scribble art / abstract art with my class of 8 year olds ... Thanks for sharing all these rules .
Thank you very much Amarna. Very helpful. in the part you were talking about coloring mistakes, paintings of Joan Miro came to my mind.
Thank you so much, you helped me with how to do it in the correct way✨
Glad I could help!
Thank you for this clear and informative video explaining the rules. Nice short video explaining the rules behind this science. I find the negative comments unhelpful and some are just unnecessarily rude. I am fascinated by this art form and am very happy to have some explanation on how to do it. Thank you Amarna 😊
Another thing, yes there are rules in art when working with lines, colors, shapes, shading, etc. However, it's ok to learn these rules and then throw the rules out of the window--if you so choose to as an artist. This type of art should be "stress-free" not creating stress by trying to get all the lines and shapes correct. That's my "two cents" on the issue. ♥
I agree some of the negative comments aren’t helpful, I do understand some of the frustration.
I work with Autism and this peaks my interest. I am curious if the “guidelines or rules” are for specific reasons. I guess what I am asking is, is this technique helpful only when doing a specific way or if the guidelines are for esthetic?
Thank you🙏
Thankyou for explaining the right way for this art form, I’m guilty with the coloring I’ll have to practice more but I’m really getting good at rounding.😊
Don't feel guilty about your art. If this video made you feel guilty so this is not a good video at all.
Best video about correct Neurographic. Thank you.❤❤❤❤
That was a great help! Thank you so much.
I think that everything that you presented in this video is absolutely CORRECT 100%. I am very new to neurographics and I had no clue on what its all about. Your suggestions really give a clear guideline when and how to correctly apply this technique. I am a person who has a tendency for anxieties and this art for therapy or otherwise makes doing neurographics very mindful and cohesive. I am thankful that you made such a video. It made me much more aware of how to create better art in the neurographics techniques. Thank you.
Wonderful explanation … I like the principles simply because if you want it to be meditative and healing this would seem the best and most beautiful way to do it❤
Shouldn’t you be using to thin paper and markers that bleed thru, no?
It would help greatly to know WHY these are the 'right' way of doing neurographica.
Yes, they can do whatever they want ! That’s the purpose of neurgraphic art..
Thank you for sharing your perspective.
I’m in love with neurographic art. It’s meditative, therapeutic, and creates new neural pathways in our brains. ❤
I believe I was present at the beginning of this Neurographic concept/technique -
As a young child, sitting on my bedroom floor, for hours (sent to my room, being “punished”) with paper pad, pencils and crayons - I lazily drew lines that randomly crossed. Then I selected random colors to fill in the closed areas.
It never dawned on me that this related to any scientific concept. I just loved spending quiet time alone and enjoying the experience.
Is there written rules for this type of art or not ?
Y
Or is this your opinion
5:54 What if I’m making a mindful oval or a mindful egg shape? I don’t see why you are calling these incorrect. Messy, I understand. But an incorrect shape? If you were my kids’ schoolteacher, I would literally pull them, over this one class sample alone… In fact, we did pull our kids and homeschooled. Did we do it perfectly? Far from it. But they knew they were absolutely loved, and we championed them. Learning was emphasized, not failure. This created an environment in which they eagerly wanted to learn, rather than dreaded what the teacher was going to say (scold) next. Lexicon and word selection matters if you want your audience to truly succeed. And in this instance, if you want a growing TH-cam audience. I am wondering if there is a cultural aspect/barrier in our understanding of your harsh communication? I hear an accent that is not from my area, so am just trying to factor that in as a possibility… perhaps in your culture it is how you communicate and form sentences in your language to adults, and it wouldn’t be considered harsh or inappropriate. Your content (the art do’s and don’ts) is great!
Very well done Amarna. Thank you
I’m a 78-yr-old artist. I understand the basic concept, but the rules are so restrictive. I think trying to conform to strict rules would make someone more anxious than relaxed. I’ve been doodling for most of my life. I started by creating designs in the margins of my notebooks in high school. I usually started by overlapping lines, then created patterns in each space. Later I carried several sheets of drawing paper.in my notebooks, so I could save my designs instead of hiding them in a notebook on lined paper. I sometimes start with shapes and sometimes with lines. Or I might start with one shape, add a pattern, then connect another shape. I might start a design one day and work on it for several days. I even insert little hidden images sometimes, maybe leaves or flowers, or something I see while I’m drawing, a mug, spoon, pencil, or paper clip.. I was doing zentangle before it was a thing.
Now, I am more likely to skip the patterns and concentrate on color, with perhaps some texture. And I might even add some collage or thicker paper shapes.
All of these designs have been relaxing for me. It’s especially fun for me to create them while I listen to music, a podcast, or audiobook, or even watching a favorite movie that I’ve seen before, so I don’t have to watch it closely. Also great when in a lecture. I’ve heard that doodling actually helps one retained a lecture’s content.
A great video to clarify and differenciate neurographic art and non neurographic art
This was very helpful, so thank you thank you!❤❤❤
I am a beginner and found this very helpul. Thank you!
Thanks for tutorial
You're welcome
I prefer mine to be free style and without rules. That way, it reflects what I'm feeling in that moment better. Adding rules and saying what others "should" or "shouldn't" do, or what's "correct" or "incorrect" only adds more stress when this art form is meant to relax you. However, I do agree with you with the no rush part. Take a breath and let your wrist or hand draw for you.
Thank you. This makes a lot of sense.
I have learnt something. Thank you
I think part of the problem people are having with your rules is that you titled the video "NeuroGraphic Art" instead of "Neurographica." You also only mention the term once in your instructions. How can you expect people to know you're specifically referring to the therapeutic technique if you use the wrong terminology yourself?
This is definitely not how the originator of this art form intended.. This is someone who loves to make up rules for life...period! No thanks!!
This video was helpful to me.
Thank you ❤😁
Thanks for these pointers. I’m guilty of a few of these! I’ll be more aware now:)
I can not for the life of make sure all of my lines in the middle match up/round out so they look like a 4 point start instead of a wonky rectangle. Any tips? Sharpies too fat and bleed and regular pens skip.
Thank you so much. Very helpful ❤
There are NO mistakes in art. You do you, and let the rest of us be free in whatever form our neurographic art takes. You should take this video down, and think about how your right/wrong approach is negative and damaging to people who are trying to have less stress in their lives, not more.
Thank you for sharing this.
There is no wrong way in art
I am very sorry you are going thru a bad time. Art and pain is expressed differently by different people. Calling peoples pain wrong or bad is less than kind. Blessings
Jeanne, what do you mean? I am sorry, what pain and difficult time?
@@AmarnaNeuroart we r all experiencing difficulty. I have listened to many of your videos and today u sounded very...Tired? Strick? Learning to face pai. Is hard..my personal feeling is to support all who even try...sorry , you are dear to me.
@@jeannemason6416 oh no! I am good, I just wanted to point out mistakes that people make in Neurographica so they can improve their skills. Thank you for carrying, I didn't feel any different!
@@AmarnaNeuroart Mistake. There is that word again!
Thank you for your video.😊
I do not understand the negative comments. Every form art has guidelines, you can follow them or not. If you just want freestyle, then why not doodle? The instructor is simply explaining the tools needed to be successful. I think she did a great job.
Uh, since neurographic art was created precisely to get out of your head and stop freaking out about "mistakes"....that is why it is weird to have someone "warn" about "mistakes".
It all depends on what you're looking for. I'm a beginner and I wanted to be guided by someone who is a certified graduate teacher of the Pavel Piskarov Psychology of Creativity Institute. There are many people on YT teaching what they call "neurographic art." I found what I was looking for after doing some research.
Thank you so very much. I have been trying this out and it just wasn't looking right. 😁
You’re welcome 😊
Is there a way I could get some pdf info on Nerography art. I find it is helping with pain is that a fact?
There is a pdf when you take Level 1 course - and it is Neurographica - please watch my video at the top of my channel it talks about the method and the teacher
She’s telling you that when you wrote a word, you also did that wrong. I suggest that you find a more relaxing, peaceful place for ANY form of art which you want to be therapeutic.
Thank you❤
If you like to someone to completely demotivate you, by all means, listen to her going on and on how your art is all wrong. For heaven’s sake, this video should come with a warning! Big hug to all of you loving the calmness of no-mistakes-neurographic art 🤗
You're mixing neuro art with Neurographica. 2 different things. Please keep up
Neurographica, as a therapeutic art form, combines creativity with structured techniques to tap into the brain's potential for transformation and self-improvement. While it might seem counterintuitive to impose rules on an inherently creative process, there are several compelling reasons to adhere to the established guidelines of Neurographica:
1. Scientific Basis: Neurographica is grounded in psychological and neuroscientific principles. The structured approach is designed to engage specific neural pathways, promoting cognitive and emotional shifts. The rules are there to ensure that the practice aligns with these scientific foundations, maximizing the therapeutic benefits.
2. Consistency and Predictability: Following the established methods of Neurographica helps ensure that the outcomes are consistent and predictable. This consistency is crucial for both practitioners and participants to understand and trust the process, making it easier to measure and replicate results.
3. Structured Creativity: Rules in Neurographica don't stifle creativity; rather, they channel it in a way that enhances the therapeutic experience. The guidelines provide a framework within which creativity can flourish, often leading to more profound insights and breakthroughs than unstructured art might.
4. Focused Intent: The specific steps and rules in Neurographica help practitioners and participants maintain a focused intent throughout the process. This focus is essential for addressing particular psychological issues or achieving specific therapeutic goals.
5. Enhanced Engagement: For many people, the structured approach can enhance engagement with the process. The clear steps and objectives can make it easier for individuals to commit to and stay involved in the practice, which is essential for experiencing its full benefits.
To those who feel that rules take away from the therapeutic potential of Neurographica, it's important to recognize that structure and freedom are not mutually exclusive. The guidelines in Neurographica are there to support and enhance the creative process, not to limit it. By understanding and following these rules, participants can potentially unlock deeper levels of personal transformation and healing that might not be accessible through unstructured methods.
In essence, the structured approach of Neurographica is akin to the principles behind other forms of therapeutic practice, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy or mindfulness meditation, where specific techniques are used to achieve desired outcomes. Embracing the rules can be seen as a way to harness the full power of this innovative therapeutic art form.
I never use color...black and white with graphic pens, and shading in graphite is my art of choice.
İt is very useful, thanks ❤
Oh my goodness why so many rules??!! This is supposed to be a form of relaxing art therapy - surely it is about participation and reducing anxiety rather than worrying about rules?! Art is about self expression not rules. Who cares if you do it one way or the other? Take what you want from the ‘rules’ and do it your own way!
Great video!
Art is art. No matter what, its theraputic even with rules or guidelunes. Theres the rule iof rounding right ? I apreciate others perspective. and Im open minded to all techniques . I dont mind learning from others perspective, as far as Im concerned, thats called growth
Much prefer the "no rules" approach method.
It’s called neographic for a reason and when you follow the rules it is so calming .
"Sooo... you were just casually doing your neurographic art your own way, getting a buzz out of the freedom of expression? NO! YOU'RE WRONG! Put those goddamn pens down RIGHT NOW, and learn how to follow the goddamn RULES, you lackadaisal anarchist, you!"
Okay, that might've been a bit TOO snarky, but honestly... isn't the whole point of neurographic art how it makes you FEEL when you're doing it? How can something be therapeutic when you're introducing this idea that it MUST be done THIS WAY or you're doing it all wrong? Sure, by all means give it STEPS and PROCESSES to follow; I know from my own perspective that having those steps and processes are a huge part of what takes the stress and over-expectation out of producing a piece, removing the existential despair of staring at a blank page 'not knowing what to draw.' But when you're taking it to a level of metaphorically slapping the tools out of a person's hand and screaming "NO! NOT like THAT! Like THIS!" isn't there a risk you're actually crushing the confidence of the very people this art form is designed to help?
Good point! When I watched this video it reminded me of the old school teachers trying to tell kids they were wrong for writing or drawing left handed.
Thanks mam.that's Great art and work.
Thank you for visiting!
Respect the process.
Informative, thank you. I wasn’t aware there was a distinction of Neuroart and Neurographica. I think people are getting confused with two hence the hateful comments. I’m sorry you are having to deal with that. As a stage 4 cancer patient I probably need to follow the guidance of Neurographica so I will look into it more. I much prefer the type of colouring you showed too. If I may offer a tip also, one way to produce a random, non-repetative line is to put a penny in front of the marker and push it to draw. It helps.i
Neuroart is derived from Neurographica as a simiplified form of Neurographica, more artistic, apparently. I have not used a penny in my practice and I don't recommend it
@@AmarnaNeuroart The penny helps with no repetitive lines. I notice your lines are repetitive at the start of the video even though you stated you weren’t doing repetitive, hence why I mentioned the tip. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with using a penny because the fact is that it helps whether you recommend it or not.
Example: There’s little difference between your first and second lines at 1:55 - they’re almost mirrored. Same with 3 and 4th line.
@@Kyomiibrown - Thank you, I am going to try the push a penny method 😊
Hateful comments? I read some that objected to the rigidity of "right/wrong", but hateful? Let me guess...you were teachers pet.
There is a wrong way of doing this. Wow that is not theraphy. That is your way that is not how you are suppose to do it. You are being critical of others they are wrong. This is a right way. You are very wrong my dear. People learn differently and you dont take that in consideration. There are guidelines yes but not Rules. That is not theraphy part of nerotheraphy. I totally am upset about the attitude about this theraphy art.
Chantal - there is a Neurographica and there is Neuroart. In Neuroart you are free to do whatever you want just keeping some elements from Neurographica, but Neurographica is a psycological method married with neuroscience. It requires rules to follow
If you read what I said that I said too. Its just the way you said that is Wrong.
I am sorry you feel this way
I realise you dont understand what I am saying so never mind.
But I have been doing it and it really does help me. I do thank you so much for introducing this amazing theraphy I enjoy it it relaxes me I create and feel good. And that is what is important. Thank you
You’re giving all these “rules” and saying it’s wrong or incorrect, really defeats the purpose of this technique. You’re giving rules, but you’re not giving any explanation as to why your rules apply. I’m going to try and forget what I’ve just seen & heard and hopefully continue enjoying the process. I’m not trying to be mean, but it comes across very judgmental and condescending. You didn’t even explain the rounding process, which is to make the intersection of lines look like neutrons. Edit: neurons.
Amen
If you would really like to learn Neurographica check out my earlier videos - I explain a lot there, all the basics! Enjoy!
Fantastic to know the actual "principles" behind doing NeuroArt creations 💜
I'm happy to see this video. This makes more integrated connections and very nice looking neurographic art. I've been pretty mindful but the coloring in regional integration with correct connections at the points produce much better results. Creative
Wonderful!
Color or create using their own imagination!
Yes - but there are rules in Neurographica that need to be followed
Thank you very much, it is very useful - my pictures didn't look so good as I wanted them to be and now I know why.