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Love this! Do more so I can put the ideas in a Van build!
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I want that bathroom how come American companies can't think of that? good grief love this review - it should be mandatory viewing for US coach makers!
Let's hope they're watching! I have a feeling they are...
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@@Ultramobility Someday we might buy a B I've spent 6 months now investigating the B market and as a consumer, I'm horrified as to what I see and the reason we have not bought yet nor may we ever buy I see a market geared for the sports car family - a 2 seater trying to find a B that can handle even for just 24 hours 4 people is really hard even those that do supply 4 3-point seatbelts (something very rare) have 2 people trying to sleep in captain chairs and not beds Sadly these days "American ingenuity" seems to be limited to how clever a person can be at outwitting our welfare system or our borders The B market is ripe for a Honda or a Toyota to step in and own in a matter of a few months if they want it P.S. The price difference between a fully loaded large SUV and a B is almost nill yet the versatility for a family is enormous - a ripe new market to be exploited
No Left Turns do you like the cassette toilet? I have no experience with it, but I don’t think I want to empty one. I’m hoping the Hymer Aktiv Loft Edition adds a black tank in the future. I do like the shower swivel, but wonder if there is a chance moisture would be a problem when the shower side is closed.
$72k. There's no way you'd get out the door here from the silly NA manufacturers for all of that. The bathroom is absolutely brilliant! I have to believe the companies that make RV"s here are just completely out of touch with trying to build something quality for their customers and are more interested in making junk that falls apart in a few years just so they can up their profits. I get that they need to make money, but sell me something that is quality for a reasonable price, I don't see it happening anytime soon unless we can get some of these companies from Europe in here. This is more or less why we are seriously looking at buying a van and building it out ourselves.
I hear ya. that's why I do these videos. I do speak with all the ceos of the manufacturers and they know about my channel and videos. many watch them. they also read your comments. so i'm hoping that in some small way that doing videos like this helps us to move the industry here in North America in a better direction.
right? I mean Winnebago selling the Revel for what something like $120k? and it's nowhere near this quality. This van could be had for less than $80k us dollars and it just blows the Revel away in terms of fit, finish and build quality. not hating on the Revel but seriously...
Ugh, you're killing me! I made the mistake a couple of months ago of looking at European campervans online and saw SO many thing I want. I gotta have a front lounge and the things they are doing with the bathrooms (also love the rotating "phone booth" door that lets you use part of the walkway for the bathroom when needed) are so much better than anything on offer here in the US. I would pay serious money for these things (in case any manufacturers are listening!) Thanks as always for providing such great information even if this review hurts a little bit :-)
lol - well I didn't mean to hurt you! hopefully the video helps folks in North America better understand what is possible and maybe to ask manufacturers here to consider some of the features we're seeing here.
I think one of the best combinations would be marrying European design with American technology, so that the class vans would have solar and lithium systems with large inverters and of course modern quiet air conditioners, which we are accustomed to in North America (well, not the quiet part :-) Have and its Carado division was a good start, but unfortunately the problems with Roadtrek is bringing them down.
I am with you all the way Ginger. Looked at some of the smaller camper vans available in Europe and their prices just blew me away! That bathroom is amazing and should be available here in the US.
I think because there's so much more competition in Europe innovations like we see here are necessary to get your product to stand out. It's not the case here in North America unfortunately. There's room for lots of improvement here both on the quality and innovation front.
It’s not even thinking out of the box which is sad. American manufacturers are just plain lazy. Anyone with basic middle school design education would have come up with much of what you see overseas. American greed is real.
I'm so happy that you are reviewing International RVs too, Neil. Very few people do. I've always liked Adria from Slovenia. and the German and French RVs too. The German ones - Hymer, Dethleffs, Burstner are all well engineered. Looking forward to your incisive reviews on all of these. Thank you for a great job! And thank you for no music while you speak! It looks like the steering wheel is on the correct side for the US but the electrical system is most likely 220V not 110V. So one cannot import an Adria here without the power grid issue solved. I'm also not sure if there are any issue with registering this vehicle in CA. They are so picky in CA! Thanks for sharing the price with us. $70K is a great price. Is there any way one could fix the power issue?
Sun roof, bathroom and pull down bed! Perfect! Love the lounge table too! Keeping it affordable is wonderful as well. Cons? Need a convection microwave, a must!
I really like the interior style and design. So much cleaner and more modern looking than most U.S. offerings. If shower is large enough to be usable it's brilliant.
Have watched a number of European and British Van Builds, this one is sweet especially the bathroom! I would even put up with a cassette toilet to have that baby! Well done!
Loved the bathroom of course. The raised bed is a great layout. I wish there were more of those offerings here. Thanks Neil for showing us what others are doing.
This bathroom idea is genius and seems like it would be fairly simple to do. The wet bath in most Class Bs has been my only pause in making the actual purchase. Let's go, North America!
Neil, great job as usual. I love that you showed us something we do not normally see. Your sub numbers are growing fast and will be really big someday soon..congrats for creating great content..always.
The "TRANSFORMER BATHROOM" is simply amazing. I only wish that North America van builders would take notice. Also the front skylight is really amazing.
The Adria is the only reason I started looking at the ProMaster chassis Class Bs! That lead me to the Aktiv or Aktiv 2.0. The ONLY thing I wanted was the dual-bath option! Come in Thor/Hymer, put this bath in the Aktiv!! Hands down, nothing in today's market would compete. In my humble opinion😁. Thanks for doing this Mini-review, Neil!!
The European Vans are so much better than what is available here. As I struggle to find a class B (now that Activ is out due to scandal) it boggles my mind as to why we are deprived of these wonderful Euro options. Better vans, better price, we are left out. With the US being such a huge market for RVs I really don't get it.
Hello, I was wondering if you could do a side by side comparison with the Leisure Travel Wonder rear twin beds and Pleasure Way Lexur FL? Thank you so much! I really appreciate your time and experience. Lise
Lisa, I could compare those but I would likely get roasted by viewers since they are two different classes of RVs: the Wonder being a B+ and he Lexor being a B.
Your bloopers are so funny! haha, so wholesome and pure. I love your reviews! I don't know if I'll ever be able to afford one of these but I'm a fan of your videos :D
Comments are very positive, I think you’ve got a whole new section for Ultramobility! Maybe call it the “Euro Reviews”? Sounds like people want to see more (as do I). Well done...
My wish finally came true. Great job! North America RV manufacturers should consider themselves lucky that nobody has figured out a way to import Class B/B+ directly from Europe.
Fantastic review. I’m a Brit living in Germany and have been looking at the Pössl 640 camper as well, but this review has made me reconsider my options in favour of the Adria. Thanks. 👌👌
Hello again Neil. I've been a fan of yours for some time now. I am planning my retirement which involves joining my daughter and her mom in Estonia in the near future. I was so excited when VW introduced their California XXL concept two years ago and was hoping you'd mention it as it also had a brilliant pull out bathroom/shower and was the first van I saw using this type of sky windows. VW has since scrapped that idea for their less than exciting Grand California. I am still researching my European purchase of a van of this type. This one is very cool. Thanks for the great video. Was at Düsseldorf last fall for the Caravan Salon Show. I thought the Hymercar Free 600 with pop top was for me but for the small impractical bathroom. I had seen this brilliant bathroom design but on a larger class vehicles. It makes perfect sense to bring the concept to this size van. It's been a lot of fun watching and hoping someone makes the perfect van for me. This is indeed the bathroom I would like to have. The sky loft is great but sacrifices a pop top or better solar option. Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
Presently in Culebra, Puerto Rico trying to sell my restaurant in order to join my 5yr old daughter and Mom. Will be purchasing a European made class b van to explore there. I have become somewhat of an accidental expert as I have been researching the market for the last few years. I have paid close attention to you as learning about all your reviews can only help me in my purchase.
Edward Estrella the bathroom in the XXL is by far the coolest I’ve ever seen, I had to watch videos of it over and over just to see how it worked. Amazingly it slides under the floor and up the side of the wall. I hope they will bring it to reality soon, is such a creative solution.
I have been following Vantastic and their Adria Adventures. Feel in love with the vehicle and now regularly beg Adria to make it over to North America.
Hi Neil, The bathroom design is one of the best. Considering that Class B sales in North America were up 35% while other RV sales were mostly flat in 2018, It just makes sense for designers here to incorporate more of these ideas. I personally also like the use of fabric versus the faux leather. For me it just feels warmer.
yep they just get it over in Europe. Lot's more choices. Better fit and finish. Higher quality. I hope this video opens more people's eyes and we begin to ask our manufacturers for more options, higher quality and more affordability.
100hp? Jeepers. Love the sky window and lounge table. and I don't even want the microwave (I'll use an InstantPot). I'd add in lithium batteries and gear up to an inverter. Bathroom is a dream come true. Wish it was available here.
The best RV I have seen was one we used in Germany in the spring of 1991. It was a small class C, but felt roomy. It had a Diesel Fiat truck that was great on gas and Diesel was cheaper than gas at the time in Germany. It had a bed above the cab and two bunks on the passenger rear and a full toilet and shower on the driver side. The kitchen had everything and the dinette was regular size and 2 kids slept there. It was well insulated and had a pilot light that heated a metal tube that went all over the RV for radiant heat and something like a fantastic fan in the center. The heater was in the rear between the bunks and the bathroom. it was in the 30s and upper 20s and my family of 5 kids and the wife and I were very comfortable. I have not seen anything like it here in the US. We traveled to all the Ludwig castles, Garmisch and Hitlers Eagles Nest and the salt mines. I was an Army Captain at the time and we went from Swimbad to Swimbad and had a great time. Very high-quality RV. Small but roomy. Great on fuel. Nothing on the market like it today. I do not remember the model. We rented it from a German friend. I would buy it if I could find one just like it. Love the channel.
I love your story! thanks for sharing that allen. reminds me of my childhood when our family took the old rental class C out and toured through the Smokey Mountains. I'm sure your kids have great memories of those times!
We have a Adria twin 600sp2014 model 2.3 130bhp. Travel around the uk and Europe best campervan I've ever had 30 + miles per gallon easy to drive and park just brilliant Paula & Bob from uk.
Well this is the bathroom that I would want! Yes I had seen it advertised before in the Adria. I love the beautiful skylight and the bed is enormous for me as I am only 5 ft tall. I really like this one! Too bad it doesn’t have much solar capabilities. Maybe they could work on that for their next model. If I had the money this is the one I would get because of the cool bathroom and cool skylight!
Thanks Neil! Personally, I am sooooo tired of the same tired design from the North American manufacturers. Maybe we’ll get lucky and Hymer will integrate more of these innovative designs into their coaches.
Neil, Hymer NA is now excluded from the Thor acquisition. Thor has picked up all the european Hymer holdings but deleted EHGNA from the final sale due to irregularities with the books in NA. Apparenly heads have rolled in Kitchener. The German management has flow in and operations have stopped builds for now. Also EHGNA has laid off over 100 employees. Now its up in the air what happens to EHGNA (Hymer/Roadtrek). Will they keep running as is or be sold off cheap. Also what happens to the amazing warranty if the worst occurs?
I recommend holding off purchasing any Hymer of North America product until after May when the Thor acquisition is completed and we have a better idea what they're doing with EGHNA.
Neil, if you're going to review European camper vans, you must include the Ford Transit-based Flash 634 from France's Chausson. At only 21 feet, it has three power beds (one double and two singles) that lift up to the ceiling to open up two dining/work areas, a full-length lounge chair and plenty of internal storage, including room for bicycles and other large gear in its adjustable rear garage. The van is beautifully designed and appears to be well built. Please check it out, you're followers (especially those with families) will absolutely love it.
Hi Neil, I’ve just found your excellent channel. As a European RV reviewer, I can honestly say that you have totally nailed it - spot on! You’ve done an amazing amount of thorough research and it shows. I looked at the 2019 Twin when it was launched and it really is a stunner. The 640 SGX is something else. What you might find surprising is that most countries in the EU have a different spec. So a Twin in France or Germany will have the kitchen you show, the same Twin in the UK would have narrower drawers and a fitted oven. Anyway, if you ever get the opportunity to hop over the pond any time I’d be glad to show you around. We’re excited to be hosting Travelling K from New Zealand this summer. Cheers for now, Andrew
hi, Andrew! sorry for just getting to this. thank you for visiting my channel. I watch your videos as well and enjoy them. you bring the European market to me! truth be told your adria twin video is what turned me on to the Adria so thank you! would love to get over there some day and you know the same holds true if you ever make it out here to California. it would be fun to collaborate!
@@Ultramobility Sure would, but no plans to head to the US at the moment. Fingers crossed I might be getting a Twin Supreme on loan for a couple of weeks soon - watch this space! Drop me a line if there is ever any way I can help. All the best.
some very innovative and practical designs and options. the shower solve one of the biggest complaints that I hear here in North America. I'd need to test it out to see if it's practical but the sheer audacity to put it into a van is something that I admire and frankly fear that no manufacturer here in North America would ever attempt.
This is perfect. Why don’t we have these in the USA? I hope manufacturers are really reading the comments. The price is good, too. Class Bs are getting so expensive!
while it is not available here in North America its still valuable to see and understand what's happening in the world of motorhomes so that we can let our North American manufacturers know what we'd like them to incorporate into future models.
Good review as always. It's amazing how you get many more choices in Europe and other parts of the world then is available in America. Also your French sounded real good.
Great review and great van. Liked your solution for inverter and lithium. I did miss your usual ending covering ‘consider’ etc etc. I’m off to source one of these.
We’re awaiting delivery of the Adria Twin in March after spending last glorious summer weather without a van. It’s surprising to us that Americans are interested in van conversions as the roads in the US are reputedly massive. Here in Devon and Cornwall we have lots of very narrow highways that lend themselves to vans like these. In fact the American servicemen and women during the Second World War who were stationed down here thought that our roads were irrigation ducts. I hope that you can all have more options in future and maybe this video will kick off a trend. All the very best in your quest.
My favorite bathroom design of all! European manufacturers are much more innovative in design and functionality! North American manufacturers please take note! These are small spaces so you need to make the most of it and bring a more modern look and feel to the experience. Thanks for a great video!
I agree, that bathroom is brilliant! Also I like the improved table for the front lounge. That is my main problem with the travato G , banging my hips or knees trying to get around the table when moving from the front seats is just too annoying. This has solved that issue beautifully.
I wish Pleasure Way (probably the best Class B stealth camper van in North America) would make a floor plan that combines the Lexor FL features (lithium battery/multiplex wiring) with a bigger front lounge like Adria Twin Supreme (with skylight) and a back lounge that coverts forward or backward to look out the back doors (gull doors would be nice to provide a fold down deck platform) and also goes into a lift bed sleeping 2 (like the Knaus Boxlife class b's) providing a garage below for everyday hauling capabilities. (storage in the Lexor or Accent is very limited) Also the Adria Supreme bathroom wet/dry bath and the a pop up Westvalia style upper birth (sleeping 5 including front air mattress option) would make this the ultimate family Class B Moterhome in North America.
Wow! Love the layout and interior color options (it would be difficult to choose between the white and houndstooth!) The lounge and bathroom are FANTASTIC! Considering the layout, options and pricing, it might be worth importing!!!
I want that bathroom. I am sure you could find a way to make the fixtures trouble free by leaving them in the wall and just moving the divider. It could be simpler than what you see here. And make a version for us tall customers (6'5")
Wow wow wow. The bathroom is awesome and the skylight is a fantastic way to open the space. For the kind of money most of the B manufacturers are calling for here you would think they would borrow some of the design elements found across the pond. I think as the B family grows in the US we will see better design and not just power type / electric push’s forward. Frankly, I think that the first push her in the US should be QC across the board. But just wow. Table design (lock in and tapered) smart. Skylight even though you loose storage... smart. Bathroom beyond smart!!!!! Thank you Neil .. or damn you NEIL I now have EU design envy. 😉
really happy to see that you've found the video helpful, informative and entertaining. I really tried to make the video appeal to both the North American and European markets. It was tough but from reading these comments it seems that many North American buyers see the video for how it was intended - as a contrast and comparison to what your money buys in Europe vs. what it buys here in North America. Thanks for watching!
That bathroom is sweet! So is the panoramic sun roof/window! Very thoughtful, smart engineering. If the North American companies need some food for thought, take a bite!
That bathroom is amazing. I have always wondered about the small sinks in most Class B bathrooms. It always seems to be in way when showering and is usually so small as to not be of much use. This seems to address that issue but would I would have to stand in the shower to see how much room there actually is. Would be nice if a US manufacturer would include one as an option.
the concept is amazing. americans tend to be a bit larger than Europeans so it would be interesting to see how an average American male would fit into the stall.
Love everything about the twin supreme except it’s not available in the U.S. Skylight is probably my favorite feature with the bathroom a close second. Interior colors are nice as well. Also like the outtakes at the end of the video.
I’ve seen European videos and was floored when I saw that moving wall in the bathroom! Wish this country would get on board with the changing RV wants. Cinderella RV toilets need to come next!
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Love this! Do more so I can put the ideas in a Van build!
I want that bathroom
how come American companies can't think of that?
good grief
love this review - it should be mandatory viewing for US coach makers!
US companies , has no idea what costumer need
Let's hope they're watching! I have a feeling they are...
@@Ultramobility Someday we might buy a B
I've spent 6 months now investigating the B market
and as a consumer, I'm horrified as to what I see
and the reason we have not bought yet
nor may we ever buy
I see a market geared for the sports car family - a 2 seater
trying to find a B that can handle even for just 24 hours 4 people is really hard
even those that do supply 4 3-point seatbelts (something very rare)
have 2 people trying to sleep in captain chairs and not beds
Sadly these days "American ingenuity" seems to be limited
to how clever a person can be at outwitting our welfare system or our borders
The B market is ripe for a Honda or a Toyota to step in and own in a matter of a few months
if they want it
P.S.
The price difference between a fully loaded large SUV and a B is almost nill
yet the versatility for a family is enormous - a ripe new market to be exploited
No Left Turns do you like the cassette toilet? I have no experience with it, but I don’t think I want to empty one. I’m hoping the Hymer Aktiv Loft Edition adds a black tank in the future. I do like the shower swivel, but wonder if there is a chance moisture would be a problem when the shower side is closed.
I need to find funding so that I can start the Ultramobility Coach Works!
I would buy this rig today. Love the front lounge, innovative bathroom and retractable bed. Let's get these in the US.
The bathroom setup is AMAZING! I think this could become the new standard for RV bathrooms. Great review by the way!
I wish the American companies would do the bathrooms in class B's that way. Loved it!
$72k. There's no way you'd get out the door here from the silly NA manufacturers for all of that. The bathroom is absolutely brilliant! I have to believe the companies that make RV"s here are just completely out of touch with trying to build something quality for their customers and are more interested in making junk that falls apart in a few years just so they can up their profits. I get that they need to make money, but sell me something that is quality for a reasonable price, I don't see it happening anytime soon unless we can get some of these companies from Europe in here. This is more or less why we are seriously looking at buying a van and building it out ourselves.
I hear ya. that's why I do these videos. I do speak with all the ceos of the manufacturers and they know about my channel and videos. many watch them. they also read your comments. so i'm hoping that in some small way that doing videos like this helps us to move the industry here in North America in a better direction.
Agree. I'm finding more van builders posting on TH-cam which maybe the route I take when I'm ready.
The elevating bed and the bathroom design on a relatively inexpensive chassis make this a winner.
right? I mean Winnebago selling the Revel for what something like $120k? and it's nowhere near this quality. This van could be had for less than $80k us dollars and it just blows the Revel away in terms of fit, finish and build quality. not hating on the Revel but seriously...
Ugh, you're killing me! I made the mistake a couple of months ago of looking at European campervans online and saw SO many thing I want. I gotta have a front lounge and the things they are doing with the bathrooms (also love the rotating "phone booth" door that lets you use part of the walkway for the bathroom when needed) are so much better than anything on offer here in the US. I would pay serious money for these things (in case any manufacturers are listening!) Thanks as always for providing such great information even if this review hurts a little bit :-)
lol - well I didn't mean to hurt you! hopefully the video helps folks in North America better understand what is possible and maybe to ask manufacturers here to consider some of the features we're seeing here.
I think one of the best combinations would be marrying European design with American technology, so that the class vans would have solar and lithium systems with large inverters and of course modern quiet air conditioners, which we are accustomed to in North America (well, not the quiet part :-) Have and its Carado division was a good start, but unfortunately the problems with Roadtrek is bringing them down.
Duplex bathroom will be a standard in the future I think.
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I am with you all the way Ginger. Looked at some of the smaller camper vans available in Europe and their prices just blew me away! That bathroom is amazing and should be available here in the US.
Good morning! The bathroom is fabulous! The front lounge is awesome. I love the skylight! Thank you, great review
In general such a smart design. That bathroom is amazing. That's what I call thinking outside of the box.
I think because there's so much more competition in Europe innovations like we see here are necessary to get your product to stand out. It's not the case here in North America unfortunately. There's room for lots of improvement here both on the quality and innovation front.
It’s not even thinking out of the box which is sad. American manufacturers are just plain lazy. Anyone with basic middle school design education would have come up with much of what you see overseas. American greed is real.
This is the best little bathroom I have seen and if I were to have a van built they would have to get this design there's no question about it.
I'm so happy that you are reviewing International RVs too, Neil. Very few people do. I've always liked Adria from Slovenia. and the German and French RVs too. The German ones - Hymer, Dethleffs, Burstner are all well engineered. Looking forward to your incisive reviews on all of these. Thank you for a great job! And thank you for no music while you speak!
It looks like the steering wheel is on the correct side for the US but the electrical system is most likely 220V not 110V. So one cannot import an Adria here without the power grid issue solved. I'm also not sure if there are any issue with registering this vehicle in CA. They are so picky in CA! Thanks for sharing the price with us. $70K is a great price. Is there any way one could fix the power issue?
Love that the bed goes up to make room for a motorcycle and the bathroom is brilliant.
So much more quality and intelligent engineering outside the U.S.A. That shower... mind blown! I'm glad I can fit anywhere at only 5'2"
Sun roof, bathroom and pull down bed! Perfect! Love the lounge table too!
Keeping it affordable is wonderful as well. Cons? Need a convection microwave, a must!
Jane thanks for sharing your thoughts. they need an inverter too!
You can usually get a significant discount on the Euro camper vans if you attend any of the shows/ fairs in Europe- anywhere from 5-10% discount.
I really like the interior style and design. So much cleaner and more modern looking than most U.S. offerings. If shower is large enough to be usable it's brilliant.
that's my question as well ted. the interior design is to my tastes and cannot be touched by any manufacturer here in North America.
Have watched a number of European and British Van Builds, this one is sweet especially the bathroom! I would even put up with a cassette toilet to have that baby! Well done!
Loved the bathroom of course. The raised bed is a great layout. I wish there were more of those offerings here. Thanks Neil for showing us what others are doing.
you got it spell madam and thanks for watching!
This bathroom idea is genius and seems like it would be fairly simple to do. The wet bath in most Class Bs has been my only pause in making the actual purchase. Let's go, North America!
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The BATHROOM is AMAZING and the front window above the cab is awesome! Please bring this to the US
I love the bathroom, and the huge sky light! Thanks for getting us a peek at this beautiful van Neil!
I love the bathroom feature. A great way to get a sizeable space in a more confined space
Neil, great job as usual. I love that you showed us something we do not normally see. Your sub numbers are growing fast and will be really big someday soon..congrats for creating great content..always.
Rich, thank you. always appreciate encouragement and support from you.
The "TRANSFORMER BATHROOM" is simply amazing. I only wish that North America van builders would take notice. Also the front skylight is really amazing.
"A 5 minute review, well maybe 10." *looks at video length: **14:26* yesssss!!
lol right?
Like your mini review style a lot, Neil ---- very clearly explaining the important info in an efficient way!
Glad it was helpful!
The Adria is the only reason I started looking at the ProMaster chassis Class Bs! That lead me to the Aktiv or Aktiv 2.0. The ONLY thing I wanted was the dual-bath option! Come in Thor/Hymer, put this bath in the Aktiv!! Hands down, nothing in today's market would compete. In my humble opinion😁. Thanks for doing this Mini-review, Neil!!
whew - really glad that North American viewers are liking this review and finding it valuable. It was a risk for me to do it!
Ultramobility very good job Neil.
The European Vans are so much better than what is available here. As I struggle to find a class B (now that Activ is out due to scandal) it boggles my mind as to why we are deprived of these wonderful Euro options. Better vans, better price, we are left out. With the US being such a huge market for RVs I really don't get it.
Hello,
I was wondering if you could do a side by side comparison with the Leisure Travel Wonder rear twin beds and Pleasure Way Lexur FL? Thank you so much! I really appreciate your time and experience. Lise
Lisa, I could compare those but I would likely get roasted by viewers since they are two different classes of RVs: the Wonder being a B+ and he Lexor being a B.
Your bloopers are so funny! haha, so wholesome and pure. I love your reviews! I don't know if I'll ever be able to afford one of these but I'm a fan of your videos :D
glad you enjoy them. I don't think most people stay til the very end to notice them!
Comments are very positive, I think you’ve got a whole new section for Ultramobility! Maybe call it the “Euro Reviews”? Sounds like people want to see more (as do I). Well done...
My wish finally came true. Great job! North America RV manufacturers should consider themselves lucky that nobody has figured out a way to import Class B/B+ directly from Europe.
I was looking at replacing my SUV with a class B as my daily driver, now I have to wait for Winnebago to adopt that shower design! That is so clever!
I think you represent a whole segment of people looking to move up from an SUV into the ultra-mobile lifestyle!
I so love that shower design!!! and those sky lights! and the front lounge table is so functional.. and beautiful!!
The Bathroom,,, love it !!! Let’s go America ,, start innovating.
Fantastic review. I’m a Brit living in Germany and have been looking at the Pössl 640 camper as well, but this review has made me reconsider my options in favour of the Adria. Thanks. 👌👌
I've been researching Class B's for months.... This camper has the WOW factor. I would buy this today if it were available here.
I love the campers you review. These seem to be some of the best designed campers I’ve seen.
Glad you like them!
Wow, an other bright idea from Europe, our designers must look at and adapt those ingenuous ideas to our camper van or am I dreaming?
"Claude, time to get up!"
Nice! Hopefully American & Canadian manufacturers will take note. Thank you.
I hope so too!
Hello again Neil. I've been a fan of yours for some time now. I am planning my retirement which involves joining my daughter and her mom in Estonia in the near future. I was so excited when VW introduced their California XXL concept two years ago and was hoping you'd mention it as it also had a brilliant pull out bathroom/shower and was the first van I saw using this type of sky windows. VW has since scrapped that idea for their less than exciting Grand California. I am still researching my European purchase of a van of this type. This one is very cool. Thanks for the great video. Was at Düsseldorf last fall for the Caravan Salon Show. I thought the Hymercar Free 600 with pop top was for me but for the small impractical bathroom. I had seen this brilliant bathroom design but on a larger class vehicles. It makes perfect sense to bring the concept to this size van. It's been a lot of fun watching and hoping someone makes the perfect van for me. This is indeed the bathroom I would like to have. The sky loft is great but sacrifices a pop top or better solar option. Thanks again. Keep up the great work.
great points. are you in Europe is that where you're looking?
Presently in Culebra, Puerto Rico trying to sell my restaurant in order to join my 5yr old daughter and Mom. Will be purchasing a European made class b van to explore there. I have become somewhat of an accidental expert as I have been researching the market for the last few years. I have paid close attention to you as learning about all your reviews can only help me in my purchase.
Edward Estrella the bathroom in the XXL is by far the coolest I’ve ever seen, I had to watch videos of it over and over just to see how it worked. Amazingly it slides under the floor and up the side of the wall. I hope they will bring it to reality soon, is such a creative solution.
Totally agree Ben.
I have been following Vantastic and their Adria Adventures. Feel in love with the vehicle and now regularly beg Adria to make it over to North America.
Yes!
Hi Neil,
The bathroom design is one of the best. Considering that Class B sales in North America were up 35% while other RV sales were mostly flat in 2018, It just makes sense for designers here to incorporate more of these ideas. I personally also like the use of fabric versus the faux leather. For me it just feels warmer.
yep they just get it over in Europe. Lot's more choices. Better fit and finish. Higher quality. I hope this video opens more people's eyes and we begin to ask our manufacturers for more options, higher quality and more affordability.
100hp? Jeepers. Love the sky window and lounge table. and I don't even want the microwave (I'll use an InstantPot). I'd add in lithium batteries and gear up to an inverter. Bathroom is a dream come true. Wish it was available here.
Jonathan thanks for sharing your thoughts and likes/dislikes. You can opt for up to 180hp.
Excellent coach. I agree, North American manufacturers need to take of the very innovative bath design.
notepads out please!
Love the bathroom wall that rotates to make a dry bath. Also love the elevator bed for storing bikes underneath.
I thought viewers would appreciate these innovations!
Beautiful coach....very innovative! If it were available in North America it would be a game changer! Especially the bathroom which is genius
i know right?
The best RV I have seen was one we used in Germany in the spring of 1991. It was a small class C, but felt roomy. It had a Diesel Fiat truck that was great on gas and Diesel was cheaper than gas at the time in Germany. It had a bed above the cab and two bunks on the passenger rear and a full toilet and shower on the driver side. The kitchen had everything and the dinette was regular size and 2 kids slept there. It was well insulated and had a pilot light that heated a metal tube that went all over the RV for radiant heat and something like a fantastic fan in the center. The heater was in the rear between the bunks and the bathroom. it was in the 30s and upper 20s and my family of 5 kids and the wife and I were very comfortable. I have not seen anything like it here in the US. We traveled to all the Ludwig castles, Garmisch and Hitlers Eagles Nest and the salt mines. I was an Army Captain at the time and we went from Swimbad to Swimbad and had a great time. Very high-quality RV. Small but roomy. Great on fuel. Nothing on the market like it today. I do not remember the model. We rented it from a German friend. I would buy it if I could find one just like it. Love the channel.
I love your story! thanks for sharing that allen. reminds me of my childhood when our family took the old rental class C out and toured through the Smokey Mountains. I'm sure your kids have great memories of those times!
Love the bathroom. Great innovation. The tables are very practical and the sink- burner combo is very smart.
I love your screen name Auntie M! It's the small touches that matter in most things and I believe this coach get a lot of small things right.
We have a Adria twin 600sp2014 model 2.3 130bhp. Travel around the uk and Europe best campervan I've ever had 30 + miles per gallon easy to drive and park just brilliant Paula & Bob from uk.
Well this is the bathroom that I would want! Yes I had seen it advertised before in the Adria. I love the beautiful skylight and the bed is enormous for me as I am only 5 ft tall. I really like this one! Too bad it doesn’t have much solar capabilities. Maybe they could work on that for their next model. If I had the money this is the one I would get because of the cool bathroom and cool skylight!
Maria - thanks for sharing what you love about this coach. I love that skylight as well. solar can be fixed easily as you say.
A pleasure-way plateau FL or Ascent with that hybrid bath would be the best of both worlds. Thanks for the expanded coverage.
thanks for watching junior y. I spoke with the ceo about this upcoming euro van review. maybe he's tuning in and reading comments...
This is a close to PERFECT RV...we need it here in North America. (...some more sleeping berths are needed)
Thanks Neil! Personally, I am sooooo tired of the same tired design from the North American manufacturers. Maybe we’ll get lucky and Hymer will integrate more of these innovative designs into their coaches.
I hope all the manufacturers are taking note! Unfortunately Hymer of North America's future is in doubt due to the Thor acquisition.
Well I guess that is one way to squash the competition....too bad.
Neil, Hymer NA is now excluded from the Thor acquisition. Thor has picked up all the european Hymer holdings but deleted EHGNA from the final sale due to irregularities with the books in NA. Apparenly heads have rolled in Kitchener. The German management has flow in and operations have stopped builds for now. Also EHGNA has laid off over 100 employees. Now its up in the air what happens to EHGNA (Hymer/Roadtrek). Will they keep running as is or be sold off cheap. Also what happens to the amazing warranty if the worst occurs?
Answer please, thanks Neil !
I recommend holding off purchasing any Hymer of North America product until after May when the Thor acquisition is completed and we have a better idea what they're doing with EGHNA.
Oh, man, I’m loving this RV! I like the sky roof and the duplex bathroom!
Certainly enjoy you informative presetations; concise and entertaining. Please continue.
If you liked that bathroom, you should check out the Rapido V55 shower/cupboard, another ingenious idea
That restroom door that converts to a dry bath, it’s really nice!
This wet bath is spectacular! This is the one item that made us choose a larger B+.
Neil, if you're going to review European camper vans, you must include the Ford Transit-based Flash 634 from France's Chausson. At only 21 feet, it has three power beds (one double and two singles) that lift up to the ceiling to open up two dining/work areas, a full-length lounge chair and plenty of internal storage, including room for bicycles and other large gear in its adjustable rear garage. The van is beautifully designed and appears to be well built. Please check it out, you're followers (especially those with families) will absolutely love it.
You are correct, this is one amazing design
boscobear49 - noted. thank you!
Wow, beauty and function! The American RV companies need to bring in new designers male and female to bring us up to speed! Thanks🌈
are you listening N.A. manufacturers?!
Wow, so great to finally understand that fiat ducato and ram promaster is the same car! Same with sprinter and mercedez
If it weren’t for the electrical system this would be perfect for my intended use. Very cool bathroom!
Absolutely gorgeous! I'd buy that tomorrow.
Hi Neil, I’ve just found your excellent channel. As a European RV reviewer, I can honestly say that you have totally nailed it - spot on! You’ve done an amazing amount of thorough research and it shows. I looked at the 2019 Twin when it was launched and it really is a stunner. The 640 SGX is something else. What you might find surprising is that most countries in the EU have a different spec. So a Twin in France or Germany will have the kitchen you show, the same Twin in the UK would have narrower drawers and a fitted oven. Anyway, if you ever get the opportunity to hop over the pond any time I’d be glad to show you around. We’re excited to be hosting Travelling K from New Zealand this summer. Cheers for now, Andrew
hi, Andrew! sorry for just getting to this. thank you for visiting my channel. I watch your videos as well and enjoy them. you bring the European market to me! truth be told your adria twin video is what turned me on to the Adria so thank you! would love to get over there some day and you know the same holds true if you ever make it out here to California. it would be fun to collaborate!
@@Ultramobility Sure would, but no plans to head to the US at the moment. Fingers crossed I might be getting a Twin Supreme on loan for a couple of weeks soon - watch this space! Drop me a line if there is ever any way I can help. All the best.
Bathroom and sky roof. Rig is beautiful.
Love this vehicle , tried to buy and ship here
What did you find out Shaun?
Love it as close to HYMER but even better!
Great Shower for such a minute camper, and I love the pseudo toy hauler option for the back.
some very innovative and practical designs and options. the shower solve one of the biggest complaints that I hear here in North America. I'd need to test it out to see if it's practical but the sheer audacity to put it into a van is something that I admire and frankly fear that no manufacturer here in North America would ever attempt.
Great video. Frustrating that the USA manufacturers haven't been able to keep up with Europe's great interior design aesthetics and other innovations.
wait for tomorrow's review!
This is perfect. Why don’t we have these in the USA? I hope manufacturers are really reading the comments. The price is good, too. Class Bs are getting so expensive!
I know some are...
That bathroom is unbelievable!!!
Isn't it? I need to trek over there and try one out myself and report back! maybe a Paypal fund??
The swinging shower door was really cool! Including enormous sunroof!
The Duplex bathroom looks awesome! I hope that makes its way into more manufacturers designs.
me too!
Great video! I never even thought to check models elsewhere in the world. I love the table configuration, the bath/shower and the sun roof.
while it is not available here in North America its still valuable to see and understand what's happening in the world of motorhomes so that we can let our North American manufacturers know what we'd like them to incorporate into future models.
I wasn't expecting that bathroom--amazing! Thanks for highlighting this coach.
You're more than welcome. If viewers like it I will do more of them.
Good review as always. It's amazing how you get many more choices in Europe and other parts of the world then is available in America. Also your French sounded real good.
lol - making Quebec proud!
Great review and great van. Liked your solution for inverter and lithium. I did miss your usual ending covering ‘consider’ etc etc. I’m off to source one of these.
hi stuart they are only available in Europe. are you in Europe?
We’re awaiting delivery of the Adria Twin in March after spending last glorious summer weather without a van.
It’s surprising to us that Americans are interested in van conversions as the roads in the US are reputedly massive. Here in Devon and Cornwall we have lots of very narrow highways that lend themselves to vans like these. In fact the American servicemen and women during the Second World War who were stationed down here thought that our roads were irrigation ducts. I hope that you can all have more options in future and maybe this video will kick off a trend. All the very best in your quest.
My favorite bathroom design of all! European manufacturers are much more innovative in design and functionality! North American manufacturers please take note! These are small spaces so you need to make the most of it and bring a more modern look and feel to the experience. Thanks for a great video!
I agree, that bathroom is brilliant! Also I like the improved table for the front lounge. That is my main problem with the travato G , banging my hips or knees trying to get around the table when moving from the front seats is just too annoying. This has solved that issue beautifully.
it's the details that matter most isn't it barbara?
This is a great vehicle at a good price I would buy one definitely
This is a thing of beauty and great design. I love it.
I wish Pleasure Way (probably the best Class B stealth camper van in North America) would make a floor plan that combines the Lexor FL features (lithium battery/multiplex wiring) with a bigger front lounge like Adria Twin Supreme (with skylight) and a back lounge that coverts forward or backward to look out the back doors (gull doors would be nice to provide a fold down deck platform) and also goes into a lift bed sleeping 2 (like the Knaus Boxlife class b's) providing a garage below for everyday hauling capabilities. (storage in the Lexor or Accent is very limited) Also the Adria Supreme bathroom wet/dry bath and the a pop up Westvalia style upper birth (sleeping 5 including front air mattress option) would make this the ultimate family Class B Moterhome in North America.
me too!
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Bathroom!! I want the class B with the moveable bed. Fantastic design. I wonder how it can be imported.
Wow! Love the layout and interior color options (it would be difficult to choose between the white and houndstooth!) The lounge and bathroom are FANTASTIC! Considering the layout, options and pricing, it might be worth importing!!!
the interior décor options are head and shoulders above anything that we have here. just light years in front of us.
I want that bathroom. I am sure you could find a way to make the fixtures trouble free by leaving them in the wall and just moving the divider. It could be simpler than what you see here. And make a version for us tall customers (6'5")
Wow wow wow. The bathroom is awesome and the skylight is a fantastic way to open the space. For the kind of money most of the B manufacturers are calling for here you would think they would borrow some of the design elements found across the pond. I think as the B family grows in the US we will see better design and not just power type / electric push’s forward. Frankly, I think that the first push her in the US should be QC across the board. But just wow. Table design (lock in and tapered) smart. Skylight even though you loose storage... smart. Bathroom beyond smart!!!!! Thank you Neil .. or damn you NEIL I now have EU design envy. 😉
really happy to see that you've found the video helpful, informative and entertaining. I really tried to make the video appeal to both the North American and European markets. It was tough but from reading these comments it seems that many North American buyers see the video for how it was intended - as a contrast and comparison to what your money buys in Europe vs. what it buys here in North America. Thanks for watching!
I really liked that bathroom and I love your outtakes 😁👍great job!!
very happy to hear. thank you very much. glad that you stayed til the very end! that's your reward!
@@Ultramobility Well I'm Prius camping in Arizona on a particularly windy day so I've got time lol. Prius camping and watching van videos lol.
LOVE that you're prius camping! being #ULTRAMOBILE FTW!
Thank you for this. Really impressed by bath design, sky light lounge and price! North America needs to step it up.
hear hear!
That bathroom is sweet! So is the panoramic sun roof/window! Very thoughtful, smart engineering. If the North American companies need some food for thought, take a bite!
it's a delicious dish!
Love that bath and the lift bed!!!
The Only Thing I See As A Negative Is That They Are Not Available Here In The States.
😒😦😩
jodeluna62 I know, right?
What’s the shipping cost to get one over to the U.S.? Anyone be know? Would chassis/ engine repairs be a problem?
I’m getting my hands on that shower stall fir my build!
Please post when you do this..... it is really nice!!!
Love the power door and the bed. I think a bed that is powered to rise to the ceiling is the best space saver a class B can have.
it's a very good value for the money.
That bathroom is amazing. I have always wondered about the small sinks in most Class B bathrooms. It always seems to be in way when showering and is usually so small as to not be of much use. This seems to address that issue but would I would have to stand in the shower to see how much room there actually is. Would be nice if a US manufacturer would include one as an option.
the concept is amazing. americans tend to be a bit larger than Europeans so it would be interesting to see how an average American male would fit into the stall.
Love everything about the twin supreme except it’s not available in the U.S. Skylight is probably my favorite feature with the bathroom a close second. Interior colors are nice as well. Also like the outtakes at the end of the video.
Great van!
Choose the drop down bed, add the inverter/generater & you're in business!
Love the dry bath option and the huge skylight.
I’ve seen European videos and was floored when I saw that moving wall in the bathroom! Wish this country would get on board with the changing RV wants. Cinderella RV toilets need to come next!
the incinerator toilets are power hungry. also they may not pass safety regulations here in North America unfortunately for a moving vehicle.
Neil !!! This is just awesome would love to have Advanced RV build this for us down the line!!! Thanks for a great review and great ideas......
glad you liked it and found it useful! really happy to see that North American viewers are liking this video.