My brother died on Everest in ‘94. We loved him but told him he was stupid. His body is in the ice range and I think he is content. I never understood his passion. RIP
Not only is it very dangerous but it also seems to me, except for the magnificent scenery, that it is too much trouble with all the equipment, the trudging up and up and the cold unpredictable, sometimes deadly weather. Way too much trouble and expense. Extreme Rock climbing is also dangerous but so much simpler.
Climbers are responsible for doing their own research, completely understanding the considerable risks, and carefully weighing those risks against the emotional and financial pain done to family/ friends in the event of their very possible injury or demise. Adding to that pain is this: if you get injured on the mountain, you will probably not be rescued and left to die on the mountain. If you die on the mountain, you will be left there and your family will never have the chance to bury you.
Why do people have to be to blame? If it’s possible to save him I’m sure they would. Once you start up that mountain you’re on your own period. It’s a luxury if you get rescued. Truth is there are very few people that should be up there at all.
Wrong. If your on a guided tour someone would have to go back with the sick person. Sending the person alone is also a death sentence. It’s harder to go down and was acting like he had high altitude sickness. Even if he makes it to the closes camp site. If he has high altitude sickness then he would die in camp. If you can’t go up alone then you shouldn’t be able to go down on your oen
@sethwiley7839 You just referred to summiting K2 as a “guided tour” as if they are finding Giligans Island. That might fly on Everest but this is a different animal. The second you step foot on that mountain all bets are off period.
@@sethwiley7839Dude K2 isn't a cake walk like Everest, if you don't know what you are doing this mountain can and will kill you. Everest may not care if you live or die but K2 actively tries to kill you.
Then the medical team should have never let him go up on K2. Because colds are easy to catch up there. They can stop people going up at the beginning. And Sherpas would never let it happen on lower part of the crime. If you have a cough on Everest you have to stay until your cough is gone.
Sucks to say but he's to blame. Climbing K2 with a heart condition is like running a marathon with COPD...it's a futile attempt and pretty freaking dumb.
Absolutely! You don’t climb 8K meter peaks when you have a heart condition. It turns an already extremely risky endeavor to almost certain suicide. I feel so badly for this fellow - he seemed like a really nice person from all accounts, but what the HELL was he thinking??!!😮
This one is simple, and could have easily been prevented, in my opinion. I get that people pour so much time and money into these expeditions but if your guide is telling you to turn around especially after seeing you struggle with rotations, you are the one to blame for your demise. I find it difficult to deal with people who cannot to take advice, in fact, it is infuriating. very selfish because now the guide has to live with survivor's guilt.
I think the more appropriate word might be directive in my opinion. Why would people trust their guide yet ignore them when they are given a directive to ensure their safety?
Non experienced climber aren’t allowed to climb k2. You have to have climb 5 14’ers before your allowed on K2. You also have to have proof of the climbs not just say it. If your in a guided tour you will go up other mountains to help climatize and see if they can physically do it. If they don’t pass then they don’t go up.
Idk I think I'd rather save a life than get some certificate and a photo. I feel like that's more important and the honorable thing to do. Besides, if I can spend 100k on a trip that's not gonna make me any money, I can prob afford to try again next year. Lol
@@beckyowens2586 at certain heights trying to help someone in trouble will just get you both killed because it's simply impossible. so yes, in any situation as long as it's possible to help someone that's the kind thing to do. but still, on a mountain there is still extreme risk in doing so, and your survival is far from guaranteed even in the "safer" parts of the mountain. it's like that saying "put your own oxygen mask on before helping others with theirs", in a place like K2 or Everest, there is simply no way to figuratively "put your own mask on" without fully descending down beyond base camp. basically I'm trying to say I understand wanting and trying to help people in trouble, but I also understand not doing so for your own safety. I'm just glad I'm never gonna haul my ass up one of those things. the moral dilemmas I could face would just be too much (and like, I have no desire to climb inanimate objects). I'm staying in bed lol.
@@Snookums680 waaaay too many! But if I were dumb enough to attempt something so stupid, I wouldn't ask ANYONE to help me or save my life. What other people do or don't do is completely on them.
The outlay of money is probably what tweaks a lot of climbers judgment on “quitting” and not understanding that no summit & alive is better than opposite.
@@beckyowens2586@beckyowens2586 Imagine you are in the death zone, and it's your life or theirs if you help them. Literally. Your life or theirs. Choosing to save someone instead of summit means expending more energy and using more oxygen, which could mean you wouldn't make it back either. Would you still choose to save them? The military doesn't teach CPR for this very reason, and they actively tell you that if your life is in danger and you are still able to move/function, do NOT actively put yourself into a worse situation. I dunno, seems like common sense.
There's a huge blatant entity to blame for what's happened here & on Everest, & that's the governments allowing so many permits that bottlenecka are now almost a given.
@@ArtisticlyAlexis Ya I agree. Government being greedy and handing out permits to anyone. I would be furious if I spent all that money only to have someones ass in my face the whole way up the mountain lol. 2) Then ur well prepared, with well experienced team and a quarter of the way up mountain u run into some guys not prepared and your summit attempt is ruined because u have to save them. 3) Not to mention the unnecessary risks to the Sherpas who have to drag people like Sandy Pitman and her espresso machine up the mountain
I’m sure there’s blame to go all around, including the companies leading the expeditions as if they are tour packages. Until or unless someone takes the responsibility to turn away those who are clearly not qualified to make the trip, people will die. I struggle to sympathize with those who insist on putting themselves in harm’s way without hope of succeeding. Any responsible climber should know their limits.
Any responsible person period should know their limits period. If you aren't qualified or in physical shape to attempt something, then you shouldn't. Seems like common sense, but unfortunately not everyone has it or uses it.
They could still make it up but not back down. If it’s a guided trip then someone would go back with them. If they’re that bad what good is it to climb down alone? If their having problems going up, and down is harder makes no sense. As long as the Sherpas and guides tried their best they can’t force anyone down. It would compromise everyone safety.
From what I understand K2 is a very difficult mountain and each climber had to be responsible for themself when it comes down to it. I hate that this formidable mountain is being over-commercialized like Mt Everest. People trash every place they go.
Why would you spend 40 grand on climbing one of the deadliest summits in the world and accept a GUIDE who HAS NOT EVEN BEEN THERE?? Totally irresponsible act.
There is no one to blame but the climbers individually. They know the risks and whether it's too crowded. I will never understand a high mortality sport like this.
The Hunza are the ethic population around the Karakoram range that includes K2 (Pakistan) The Hunza are NOT Sherpas. The Sherpa ethnic group are native to the Tibetan highlands in which Everest can be found. Unfortunately, the Hunza don’t have the solid mountaineering skill and expertise as the Sherpa and are mostly used as high altitude porters. One can hire Sherpa guides for K2, even though Pakistan has threatened to not issue visas for them in the future, but Sherpas are not on “home advantage” on K2 and most expeditions can only afford a handful. The Hunza are even more underpaid by these international expedition operators and this human misery continues to darken this entire “industry.” Reinhold Messner is the best example how a mountaineer should approach this task, and I don’t talk about the dangerous trend of not using supplemental oxygen that he may have started. No, it’s Messner’s mindset of ascending as quick as possible and without porters or guides. Don’t put the life of another human being in danger for your hobby.
Ali Akbar was one of the good friends I had in Afghanistan. He worked in IT, and suddenly, out of nowhere, he started climbing, which inspired everyone in the group. We shared many lunches together at the end of 2021. Rest in peace, brother Ali Akbar.
not a climber myself but it seems that attempting to summit K2 while concealing a heart condition is rolling the dice with not only your own life, but the lives of everyone else you're climbing with and anyone else who may try to save you or lend aid. reckless disregard for the lives of others.
They are awful. How they dared to NOT go out in a freaking blizzard, in the middle of the night, at 7000m in the vertical slopes of K2 to save some dude who couldn't live not even at sea level. The audacity of some people!!!
@@shosc16 they seek adventure because they have $. Me and my buddies gotta blaze new trails where we live when off work. These loaded a$$holes just looking for bragging rights to their millionaire pals. Can't get near any of the big 3 without a boatload of $.
@@matthewotis3594my father didn’t climb K2 but he climbed Everest in 2022. He had to save 4 years because he’s not “loaded”. Yeah lots of cocky millionaire do this shit and I agree it’s pathetic. But not all of them are like that. But I do get what you mean.
I'm sorry but that's low to blame the 'porter' when you're the one who's actually slowing people down. You can hear it in his voice and see it in the video even the video in which is muted. That's just down right shameful that you're putting everyone's lives in danger but you're too proud to take any of the responsibility. Plus, he didn't listen to the people saying they should go back down. It's no one's fault the climbers. Unless you're are actually pushed down the mountain, it is always the climbers fault for not coming down when they should have whether others are telling him to or not doesn't matter. He's the one making the choices to push on. Shameful to blame others. Blaming the "porter" for the weather. Blaming his teammate's suit issue. Blaming everyone but himself.
My uncle climbed K2 and Nanga Parbat in the 1950's with a crew of Germans. He was one of the toughest people I have ever met, mentally and physically. RIP Ali Akbar Sakhi 🤲🏽🕊
I have seen countless videos and articles that rehash the same "one in four people who try to summit K2 end up dying." That would mean if, as stated in this video, 100+ people attempted to summit K2 in a single day, 25+ would likely face a potentially fatal outcome. However, that doesn't seem to be the case. So, is this "one in four..." statistic completely bogus? Or are people just having a lot more success reaching the summit now that K2 has vastly grown in popularity, resulting in more guides/sherpas successfully getting their clients to the top?
An all Sherpa team of ten people climbed K2 during winter and no one died. First ascent on K2 in the winter. Some years have a lot of deaths and some years have only 1 or 2. So averages aren’t always right
When you go to the mountains, especially the big ones, be aware sometimes the mountain gods smile on you ... sometimes they don't!!! If you aren't ready to accept the consequences don't go.
They know and so does everyone on them. They go over it repeatedly and if you have a lived on whose not going you would bring up they could die. Even top Sherpas can die unexpectedly on a mountain. Everyone knows
Saqui paid $40,000 US. With a payday that high no one is going to stop him, and he was ill. Poor health and a heart condition? No health checks to say yes or no to the climb?? NO REGULATIONS. Insane.
This reminds me a lot of David Sharp, who perished on Everest. Sometimes, summit fever can be deadly. Also, similarly, I remember a mountaineering legend describing the increased depersonalization and how dishonorable it was that things devolved that way.
@@will.green.HaHa and you're the person we kick out of the tent in a blizzard. Yes, I do. With most of my hobbies if you mess up you die, and I'm still kicking!
Anytime anybody does anything for a personal goal or adrenaline rush, YOU are responsible for yourself....period..YOU know the risks and YOU chose to tempt fate
You just can't depend on some people for anything. I went kayaking once and tagged along with a mother and two sons. Well, the mother got stuck sideways on a rock heading into a rapid. I sat there for 5 minutes watching her kids do nothing to help. So I got my crippled behind out and into the water. Here i am crippled with a trekking pole walking up through the stream. Then crossing two channels I had my spare hand down onto the stream bed. I had zero obligation, vastly less physical ability and I could have easily just kept going about my paddle but that's not me.
I don't understand. The climber knew he was having trouble breathing, coughing and having trouble with his heart These are all signs of altitude sickness. He was advised to go back, yet he refused and went on until apparently he could go no longer, and collapsed. And yet the fault lies with others who did not rescue him? Seems to me he had opportunity to save himself and disregarded that. How is it others' fault?
I wouldn’t climb a mountain like that in general, but it would be a horrible thing to realize your guide didn’t know the area or mountain. And as a person with heart issues? Shytttt!
Sorry but you can't expect people to go out searching for someone on K2 in the middle of a blizzard. That only would have likely resulted in multiple fatalities instead of one. If you climb a mountain like that you have to accept the risks and one of those is that there may be no one to help you if you run into trouble. Although sending him out with an inexperienced porter was very worrying (and I have no idea why he accepted this! I mean he was going to spend a lot of money, he should have cancelled if they could not offer someone with the right experience level), he didn't disclose his heart condition which was incredibly reckless, and sounds like he was told multiple times to turn around due to health concerns, but he had summit fever and rejected that advice. It's a very sad outcome, but in the end I think it's unfair to try to lay the blame at the feet of other people on the mountain for not finding him sooner.
His brother said: He has no Heart problem, no physical and health issues. The guide lost the way and left him behind. The guide and the company is responsible
That serac above the bottleneck is scary.Imagine 20 people crossing at the base of it,all tied to the same line and it decides to break a piece off!It will carry everyone down...
There's forms to fill out...and one question is in regard to the climbers' health. He had to have hidden his heart issues. Not very smart. If they'd known about it he would have been turned down.
Honestly Sakhi was selfish and put other people at risk for not disclosing his heart problems. He decided to gamble with his life and you can’t really blame others for not helping. Climbing K2 is a tough mountain and when people try to climb it unprepared and with medical conditions the blame’s on them.
The most blame always needs to be on the climber. All of the risks are known. Its known that at that altitude very little can be done in the way of helping you. Its known that overcrowding is an issue. Sakhi knew he had a heart condition and kept it secret. In his ambition he made critical errors in judgment.
U often hear people say" he seemed fine" then 2 min later they die. When the body is at the end it will do everything to stay alive release chemicals and hormones makjng the person "look fine" an example is in the case of hypothermia shortly before death the body releases core blood to heat up the dying limbs and the person is rejuvenated for a bit and may even take clothes off because of how warm they feel, then die shortly after
Why didn't the giude check on his client in the morning? I get ditching him, but what about the morning? Akhim made his choices and nobody else should have to suffer for them, but if the guide was able, he should have returned. I don't think the guide has any blame in the death, I'm just perplexed about how it seems everybody forgot he was there.
I still think it is shameful to walk past someone dying who is still alive just to get to the top even if you can’t save them you could make them more comfortable as they pass i would understand leaving him to go down to save yourself but not abandoning the still alive climber to go up…
He tried to blame the guide when most of this was his own fault and he put other lives at risk so he could summit K2. I have heart and lung issues and I would never attempt anything like this especially if it could take other lives with my own. It’s selfish.
I've worked SAR for almost two decades now, and if I've learned anything, it's that sometimes sh*t just happens. ...But sometimes sh*t happens more often in certain circumstances, and maybe you should make sure you've got your sh*t together before you attempt to handle such circumstances. And don't come crying to us if we're busy when you need help handling those circumstances for which you were clearly unprepared, because I'd rather risk my butt helping someone who genuinely was a victim of poor fortune and didn't knowingly put themselves in harm's way. Just saying.
He had a heart condition that he concealed. He knew how strenuous it was going to be even for a healthy individual. He also knew that the prevailing attitude among modern climbers concerning helping others who are in trouble.He made a poor decision. Nobody else is to blame.
yourself if you were an experienced professional, and didn’t listen to your body. the government if you were a inexperienced climber who just wanted bragging rights, and ended up getting them self killed because the government didn’t do a background check.
why does it have to be clean? do you have ocd? does the mountain care if its clean? will nature destroy all remnants of human civilization eventually? will the sun destroy the earth not long after that? when that happens it would be better if k2 was clean tho right?
Sounds like some poor planning and crucial mistakes that are well known to real mountaineers. Depend on yourself and blame no one but yourself. Blaming a Sherpa with little knowledge of the mountain is calling the kettle black. This climber did not do his homework, period. Play the game, know the consequences, train to avoid them, and leave your ego at home. Mother Nature does not care! Climb Smart!
This guy had nothing to do on K2. He pushed himself to far. The porter isn't to blame. I wonder how fast Ali was able to climb. I don't like pple that once in the middle of sh storm start with the blaming game.
K2 “The Savage Mountain” is the most difficult to climb of the 8,000 meters. How can you be so freaking narcissist to put your life and the lives of others in jeopardy? Hello you have a heart condition that puts limits in the climbing world. I feel sorry for those that loved him. Rip
Is anyone to blame? When I was young I was taught that only YOU are responsible for your actions and safety. No one forces you to spend your money to climb a mountain, in fact I support your freedom to do so. There will always be people (or climbing groups) ready to take your money. But if you die in the process, it is your own fault.
None of this was caused by overcrowding. What are you even talking about? And you can't throw someone over your shoulder and tote them down. People understand this before they decide to climb. I have no idea what idiots are responding to you like you had even one valid point.
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@@Snookums680 As awfull this case might be, if he would back off becuse of his cough, he could be aslive. Not to mention he KNEW he had heart disease - and under such tremendous stress this was basically suicide.
Then no one would ever make it to the summit. If he died setting the ropes it’s obvious that he didn’t finish placing the ropes. He knew he was dead either way.. If something happens on K2 you know they’re dead and can’t do nothing to help. Most climbers don’t have the skills or ability to help someone down. They also didn’t have to correct equipment to save someone up that high. That’s life when climbing
It is absolute sheer selfishness that is destroying the climbing fraternity.... i think it disgusting, that very few, of the hundreds on these mountains, has the guts to help their fellow climbers.... all tainted with the Krakour syndrome... a yellow streak running down their backs.
My brother died on Everest in ‘94. We loved him but told him he was stupid. His body is in the ice range and I think he is content. I never understood his passion. RIP
The death of a brother is extremely hard. Sorry for your loss. ❤
So sorry for your loss. I too do not understand the cost or risk. I prefer safe old age but each to their own. Love to your family.
Who can understand? Addiction is addiction whether it be drugs, sugar or adrenalin.
RIP, sorry for your loss
Not only is it very dangerous but it also seems to me, except for the magnificent scenery, that it is too much trouble with all the equipment, the trudging up and up and the cold unpredictable, sometimes deadly weather. Way too much trouble and expense.
Extreme Rock climbing is also dangerous but so much simpler.
Climbers are responsible for doing their own research, completely understanding the considerable risks, and carefully weighing those risks against the emotional and financial pain done to family/ friends in the event of their very possible injury or demise. Adding to that pain is this: if you get injured on the mountain, you will probably not be rescued and left to die on the mountain. If you die on the mountain, you will be left there and your family will never have the chance to bury you.
Why do people have to be to blame? If it’s possible to save him I’m sure they would. Once you start up that mountain you’re on your own period. It’s a luxury if you get rescued.
Truth is there are very few people that should be up there at all.
Wrong. If your on a guided tour someone would have to go back with the sick person. Sending the person alone is also a death sentence. It’s harder to go down and was acting like he had high altitude sickness. Even if he makes it to the closes camp site. If he has high altitude sickness then he would die in camp. If you can’t go up alone then you shouldn’t be able to go down on your oen
@sethwiley7839 You just referred to summiting K2 as a “guided tour” as if they are finding Giligans Island. That might fly on Everest but this is a different animal. The second you step foot on that mountain all bets are off period.
@@sethwiley7839Dude K2 isn't a cake walk like Everest, if you don't know what you are doing this mountain can and will kill you. Everest may not care if you live or die but K2 actively tries to kill you.
If you decide to climb a mountain..You are accepting the risks including you may die
The K2 bottleneck is deadly even before all the commercialization
So was the Khumbu ice field on Everest
NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
He had a heart issue and a cough the entire time. Pulmonary edema. Possibly congestive heart failure as well
Then the medical team should have never let him go up on K2. Because colds are easy to catch up there. They can stop people going up at the beginning. And Sherpas would never let it happen on lower part of the crime. If you have a cough on Everest you have to stay until your cough is gone.
Well duhh
Sucks to say but he's to blame. Climbing K2 with a heart condition is like running a marathon with COPD...it's a futile attempt and pretty freaking dumb.
Bro, do you even know what COPD means !?
@adambane1719 Considering I watched my father deteriorate over the course of about 10 years because of it, yes I do.
@@SamJ_1980 ...because I don't....
sorry to hear that
Absolutely! You don’t climb 8K meter peaks when you have a heart condition. It turns an already extremely risky endeavor to almost certain suicide. I feel so badly for this fellow - he seemed like a really nice person from all accounts, but what the HELL was he thinking??!!😮
This one is simple, and could have easily been prevented, in my opinion. I get that people pour so much time and money into these expeditions but if your guide is telling you to turn around especially after seeing you struggle with rotations, you are the one to blame for your demise. I find it difficult to deal with people who cannot to take advice, in fact, it is infuriating. very selfish because now the guide has to live with survivor's guilt.
I think the more appropriate word might be directive in my opinion. Why would people trust their guide yet ignore them when they are given a directive to ensure their safety?
Agree, people get too caught up in “losing” there money by abandoning the climb instead of overlooking health
Ridiculous to climb with a heart condition and tell NO ONE. He had to know what his cough indicated.
why do you care if other people are stupid? sounds like a waste of time
They should not allow people who are not experienced on these mountains. It has reached a ridiculous level
Non experienced climber aren’t allowed to climb k2. You have to have climb 5 14’ers before your allowed on K2. You also have to have proof of the climbs not just say it. If your in a guided tour you will go up other mountains to help climatize and see if they can physically do it. If they don’t pass then they don’t go up.
they who? who do you want controlling your movement? i dont want anyone controlling mine
@@will.green. don't expect anyone to rescue you either. K2 is not Everest, it's a much more difficult and dangerous climb
It's the climbers choice. If I spent tens of thousands of dollars to "attempt" to climb, I might have a certain mind set about summiting.
Idk I think I'd rather save a life than get some certificate and a photo. I feel like that's more important and the honorable thing to do. Besides, if I can spend 100k on a trip that's not gonna make me any money, I can prob afford to try again next year. Lol
@@beckyowens2586 at certain heights trying to help someone in trouble will just get you both killed because it's simply impossible. so yes, in any situation as long as it's possible to help someone that's the kind thing to do. but still, on a mountain there is still extreme risk in doing so, and your survival is far from guaranteed even in the "safer" parts of the mountain. it's like that saying "put your own oxygen mask on before helping others with theirs", in a place like K2 or Everest, there is simply no way to figuratively "put your own mask on" without fully descending down beyond base camp. basically I'm trying to say I understand wanting and trying to help people in trouble, but I also understand not doing so for your own safety. I'm just glad I'm never gonna haul my ass up one of those things. the moral dilemmas I could face would just be too much (and like, I have no desire to climb inanimate objects). I'm staying in bed lol.
@@Snookums680 waaaay too many! But if I were dumb enough to attempt something so stupid, I wouldn't ask ANYONE to help me or save my life. What other people do or don't do is completely on them.
The outlay of money is probably what tweaks a lot of climbers judgment on “quitting” and not understanding that no summit & alive is better than opposite.
@@beckyowens2586@beckyowens2586 Imagine you are in the death zone, and it's your life or theirs if you help them. Literally. Your life or theirs. Choosing to save someone instead of summit means expending more energy and using more oxygen, which could mean you wouldn't make it back either. Would you still choose to save them? The military doesn't teach CPR for this very reason, and they actively tell you that if your life is in danger and you are still able to move/function, do NOT actively put yourself into a worse situation. I dunno, seems like common sense.
When you're up there by yourself, nobody is to blame.
The traffic on these mountains is ridiculous 🤦
@@Snookums680 Ya nobody to blame but yourself...and probably Trump (if media picks up the story)
There's a huge blatant entity to blame for what's happened here & on Everest, & that's the governments allowing so many permits that bottlenecka are now almost a given.
@@ArtisticlyAlexis Ya I agree. Government being greedy and handing out permits to anyone. I would be furious if I spent all that money only to have someones ass in my face the whole way up the mountain lol.
2) Then ur well prepared, with well experienced team and a quarter of the way up mountain u run into some guys not prepared and your summit attempt is ruined because u have to save them.
3) Not to mention the unnecessary risks to the Sherpas who have to drag people like Sandy Pitman and her espresso machine up the mountain
@@ArtisticlyAlexis The Bottleneck is on K2, not on Everest
@@cappy2282 LOL
I’m sure there’s blame to go all around, including the companies leading the expeditions as if they are tour packages. Until or unless someone takes the responsibility to turn away those who are clearly not qualified to make the trip, people will die. I struggle to sympathize with those who insist on putting themselves in harm’s way without hope of succeeding. Any responsible climber should know their limits.
Any responsible person period should know their limits period. If you aren't qualified or in physical shape to attempt something, then you shouldn't. Seems like common sense, but unfortunately not everyone has it or uses it.
They could still make it up but not back down. If it’s a guided trip then someone would go back with them. If they’re that bad what good is it to climb down alone? If their having problems going up, and down is harder makes no sense. As long as the Sherpas and guides tried their best they can’t force anyone down. It would compromise everyone safety.
I can’t believe 100 people could even summit K2 in one day.
It won't happen sitting on the couch tapping ya screen that's for sure champ
From what I understand K2 is a very difficult mountain and each climber had to be responsible for themself when it comes down to it. I hate that this formidable mountain is being over-commercialized like Mt Everest. People trash every place they go.
weird, i heard it was pretty easy to climb k2. i also wish people never went anywhere. that way when i go it is still untouched
The only one to blame is the climber.
Definitely the fault of the climber in this case. How many warning flags did he need?
It’s ridiculous, watching videos of people that have absolutely no business being anywhere near these mountains !
they dont make videos of the pros cuz theyre boring. climb up, climb down
Unfortunately, it's the American mindset that we blame someone or something else for the deadly choices that people voluntarily make.
which america are you from? im guessing one of the coasts
Why would you spend 40 grand on climbing one of the deadliest summits in the world and accept a GUIDE who HAS NOT EVEN BEEN THERE??
Totally irresponsible act.
And with having heart problems
Got swindled & took on too much risk w underlying health issue
Two words. "Summit fever."
But yeah, I agree. Terrible decision.
@@Strype13 Yeah, thats absolutely not what Summit Fever means
And hide your heart condition
These questions are coming up more and more regarding all of the Himalayas.
ya its racism
If you go to K2, and unfortunately die, it’s your own fault. You can’t blame others when you put yourself in such a dangerous situation.
i take it youre not a lawyer
There is no one to blame but the climbers individually. They know the risks and whether it's too crowded. I will never understand a high mortality sport like this.
The Hunza are the ethic population around the Karakoram range that includes K2 (Pakistan)
The Hunza are NOT Sherpas.
The Sherpa ethnic group are native to the Tibetan highlands in which Everest can be found.
Unfortunately, the Hunza don’t have the solid mountaineering skill and expertise as the Sherpa and are mostly used as high altitude porters.
One can hire Sherpa guides for K2, even though Pakistan has threatened to not issue visas for them in the future, but Sherpas are not on “home advantage” on K2 and most expeditions can only afford a handful.
The Hunza are even more underpaid by these international expedition operators and this human misery continues to darken this entire “industry.”
Reinhold Messner is the best example how a mountaineer should approach this task, and I don’t talk about the dangerous trend of not using supplemental oxygen that he may have started.
No, it’s Messner’s mindset of ascending as quick as possible and without porters or guides.
Don’t put the life of another human being in danger for your hobby.
Ali Akbar was one of the good friends I had in Afghanistan. He worked in IT, and suddenly, out of nowhere, he started climbing, which inspired everyone in the group. We shared many lunches together at the end of 2021. Rest in peace, brother Ali Akbar.
not a climber myself but it seems that attempting to summit K2 while concealing a heart condition is rolling the dice with not only your own life, but the lives of everyone else you're climbing with and anyone else who may try to save you or lend aid. reckless disregard for the lives of others.
They are awful. How they dared to NOT go out in a freaking blizzard, in the middle of the night, at 7000m in the vertical slopes of K2 to save some dude who couldn't live not even at sea level.
The audacity of some people!!!
Used to be for mountaineers and adventure seekers, and now it's just a few words on a millionaires bucket list. Pathetic.
Well, I'm never climbing a mountain if that makes you feel better.
They’re not mutually exclusive. Plenty of adventure seekers who have money
@@shosc16 they seek adventure because they have $. Me and my buddies gotta blaze new trails where we live when off work. These loaded a$$holes just looking for bragging rights to their millionaire pals. Can't get near any of the big 3 without a boatload of $.
@@matthewotis3594my father didn’t climb K2 but he climbed Everest in 2022. He had to save 4 years because he’s not “loaded”. Yeah lots of cocky millionaire do this shit and I agree it’s pathetic. But not all of them are like that. But I do get what you mean.
@@shosc16 ya the ones that pay 100k to climb a mountain. i would choose to climb one thats free, but then again i cant afford 100k
I'm sorry but that's low to blame the 'porter' when you're the one who's actually slowing people down. You can hear it in his voice and see it in the video even the video in which is muted. That's just down right shameful that you're putting everyone's lives in danger but you're too proud to take any of the responsibility. Plus, he didn't listen to the people saying they should go back down. It's no one's fault the climbers. Unless you're are actually pushed down the mountain, it is always the climbers fault for not coming down when they should have whether others are telling him to or not doesn't matter. He's the one making the choices to push on. Shameful to blame others. Blaming the "porter" for the weather. Blaming his teammate's suit issue. Blaming everyone but himself.
Sounds like an addiction
My uncle climbed K2 and Nanga Parbat in the 1950's with a crew of Germans. He was one of the toughest people I have ever met, mentally and physically. RIP Ali Akbar Sakhi 🤲🏽🕊
"K2 boasts a notorious reputation as the “Savage Mountain.” Its fatality rate is around 23 deaths per 100 successful summits."
-some climbing site.
That’s almost one in four
@@margaretlemmon1143 It's an insane thing to want to do. Yikes 😬
That was has been long sad, but I would estimate that that has changed, if in one day there were 100 successful summitings.
I have seen countless videos and articles that rehash the same "one in four people who try to summit K2 end up dying." That would mean if, as stated in this video, 100+ people attempted to summit K2 in a single day, 25+ would likely face a potentially fatal outcome. However, that doesn't seem to be the case. So, is this "one in four..." statistic completely bogus? Or are people just having a lot more success reaching the summit now that K2 has vastly grown in popularity, resulting in more guides/sherpas successfully getting their clients to the top?
I believe it's the second. As number of climbers rise, more summeters but the sameish number of deaths.
An all Sherpa team of ten people climbed K2 during winter and no one died. First ascent on K2 in the winter. Some years have a lot of deaths and some years have only 1 or 2. So averages aren’t always right
When you go to the mountains, especially the big ones, be aware sometimes the mountain gods smile on you ... sometimes they don't!!! If you aren't ready to accept the consequences don't go.
They know and so does everyone on them. They go over it repeatedly and if you have a lived on whose not going you would bring up they could die. Even top Sherpas can die unexpectedly on a mountain. Everyone knows
Saqui paid $40,000 US. With a payday that high no one is going to stop him, and he was ill.
Poor health and a heart condition?
No health checks to say yes or no to the climb?? NO REGULATIONS. Insane.
ya they should pay the govt half for the illusion of safety and the risk of imprisonment
This reminds me a lot of David Sharp, who perished on Everest. Sometimes, summit fever can be deadly. Also, similarly, I remember a mountaineering legend describing the increased depersonalization and how dishonorable it was that things devolved that way.
And, like the Sharpe case, others ended up being blamed. 😟
@@playgroundchooser I just saw this. Yeah, you're right. What kind of mess is that? Totally unfair indeed.
who? never heard of her
There is no "artificial " oxygen. It is called supplimental oxygen.
you spelled your name wrong. its supposed to be monkey poo tracing. you have some weird hobbies
@@will.green.HaHa and you're the person we kick out of the tent in a blizzard. Yes, I do. With most of my hobbies if you mess up you die, and I'm still kicking!
Anytime anybody does anything for a personal goal or adrenaline rush, YOU are responsible for yourself....period..YOU know the risks and YOU chose to tempt fate
does that include anywhere?
You just can't depend on some people for anything. I went kayaking once and tagged along with a mother and two sons. Well, the mother got stuck sideways on a rock heading into a rapid. I sat there for 5 minutes watching her kids do nothing to help. So I got my crippled behind out and into the water. Here i am crippled with a trekking pole walking up through the stream. Then crossing two channels I had my spare hand down onto the stream bed.
I had zero obligation, vastly less physical ability and I could have easily just kept going about my paddle but that's not me.
The first blame goes to the person who decided making a risky, possibly fatal, trek to the top of a mountain was worth the gamble of their life.
It never gets old to see the footage from the summit … it’s not a very big or spacious plot of real estate!
Real estate??? 🙄
There's something called Nature......
@@Galaxie08 it’s an expression; not a diss at Mother Nature’s awesome beauty.
I don't understand. The climber knew he was having trouble breathing, coughing and having trouble with his heart These are all signs of altitude sickness. He was advised to go back, yet he refused and went on until apparently he could go no longer, and collapsed. And yet the fault lies with others who did not rescue him? Seems to me he had opportunity to save himself and disregarded that. How is it others' fault?
its not their fault, its your fault
I wouldn’t climb a mountain like that in general, but it would be a horrible thing to realize your guide didn’t know the area or mountain. And as a person with heart issues? Shytttt!
Sorry but you can't expect people to go out searching for someone on K2 in the middle of a blizzard. That only would have likely resulted in multiple fatalities instead of one. If you climb a mountain like that you have to accept the risks and one of those is that there may be no one to help you if you run into trouble. Although sending him out with an inexperienced porter was very worrying (and I have no idea why he accepted this! I mean he was going to spend a lot of money, he should have cancelled if they could not offer someone with the right experience level), he didn't disclose his heart condition which was incredibly reckless, and sounds like he was told multiple times to turn around due to health concerns, but he had summit fever and rejected that advice. It's a very sad outcome, but in the end I think it's unfair to try to lay the blame at the feet of other people on the mountain for not finding him sooner.
lol imagine having 6 porters help you up the mountain then to proclaim that "you" did it
Great channel so well done ❤
Boosting the algorithm ✌️
His brother said: He has no Heart problem, no physical and health issues. The guide lost the way and left him behind. The guide and the company is responsible
Beautiful narrative of a tragic story
Tragic for his family and the woman who found him and suffers for it. Such a selfish human being.
That serac above the bottleneck is scary.Imagine 20 people crossing at the base of it,all tied to the same line and it decides to break a piece off!It will carry everyone down...
bon voyage
There's forms to fill out...and one question is in regard to the climbers' health. He had to have hidden his heart issues. Not very smart. If they'd known about it he would have been turned down.
His guide was inexperienced? How come he had what it took to live? Another case of "listen to the guide"!
Honestly Sakhi was selfish and put other people at risk for not disclosing his heart problems. He decided to gamble with his life and you can’t really blame others for not helping. Climbing K2 is a tough mountain and when people try to climb it unprepared and with medical conditions the blame’s on them.
He didn’t care. He would not wanted to be saved or brought down. Because that would put more people in danger
youre just an ableist. someone with a heart condition has all the same rights as everyone else
The most blame always needs to be on the climber. All of the risks are known. Its known that at that altitude very little can be done in the way of helping you. Its known that overcrowding is an issue. Sakhi knew he had a heart condition and kept it secret. In his ambition he made critical errors in judgment.
It is suggested that you turn round and you have not told anyone about your heart problems it's your own problem!
I still can't understand why people insist on climbing mountains in the first place!
not everyone is able to sit on the couch eating chips and watching tv all day
U often hear people say" he seemed fine" then 2 min later they die. When the body is at the end it will do everything to stay alive release chemicals and hormones makjng the person "look fine" an example is in the case of hypothermia shortly before death the body releases core blood to heat up the dying limbs and the person is rejuvenated for a bit and may even take clothes off because of how warm they feel, then die shortly after
K2 kills one out of 3 climbers
Also known as the savage mountain ⛰️
lies
Why didn't the giude check on his client in the morning? I get ditching him, but what about the morning? Akhim made his choices and nobody else should have to suffer for them, but if the guide was able, he should have returned. I don't think the guide has any blame in the death, I'm just perplexed about how it seems everybody forgot he was there.
I still think it is shameful to walk past someone dying who is still alive just to get to the top even if you can’t save them you could make them more comfortable as they pass i would understand leaving him to go down to save yourself but not abandoning the still alive climber to go up…
He tried to blame the guide when most of this was his own fault and he put other lives at risk so he could summit K2. I have heart and lung issues and I would never attempt anything like this especially if it could take other lives with my own. It’s selfish.
Summiting is optional . . . Getting back to base camp is mandatory
I've worked SAR for almost two decades now, and if I've learned anything, it's that sometimes sh*t just happens.
...But sometimes sh*t happens more often in certain circumstances, and maybe you should make sure you've got your sh*t together before you attempt to handle such circumstances.
And don't come crying to us if we're busy when you need help handling those circumstances for which you were clearly unprepared, because I'd rather risk my butt helping someone who genuinely was a victim of poor fortune and didn't knowingly put themselves in harm's way.
Just saying.
At least someone got rich taking their money 😑
$40,000 for 3 things??? That’s crazy
He had a heart condition that he concealed. He knew how strenuous it was going to be even for a healthy individual. He also knew that the prevailing attitude among modern climbers concerning helping others who are in trouble.He made a poor decision. Nobody else is to blame.
all those climbers are tourists and theyre garbage
The lack of common sense is to blame. They win the stupid prize.
Here for the algorithm!
Honestly, commercialization ruins everything.
Whose fault is it that someone dies on a mountain ?
The person that goes up there.
...or is it Darwinian selection?
yourself if you were an experienced professional, and didn’t listen to your body. the government if you were a inexperienced climber who just wanted bragging rights, and ended up getting them self killed because the government didn’t do a background check.
i love the govt and want them to control our lives completely. i hate that people still have any freedoms at all
I think people would pay just to go and clean up. Its ghoulish but if prestige can help the mountain.
why does it have to be clean? do you have ocd? does the mountain care if its clean? will nature destroy all remnants of human civilization eventually? will the sun destroy the earth not long after that? when that happens it would be better if k2 was clean tho right?
Climbers know the risk. You're on your own. If you come down that's great, if not, well that's fate
The climber is to blame unless there is an unforeseen avalanche then people must help
Sounds like some poor planning and crucial mistakes that are well known to real mountaineers. Depend on yourself and blame no one but yourself. Blaming a Sherpa with little knowledge of the mountain is calling the kettle black. This climber did not do his homework, period.
Play the game, know the consequences, train to avoid them, and leave your ego at home. Mother Nature does not care!
Climb Smart!
This guy had nothing to do on K2. He pushed himself to far. The porter isn't to blame. I wonder how fast Ali was able to climb. I don't like pple that once in the middle of sh storm start with the blaming game.
K2 “The Savage Mountain” is the most difficult to climb of the 8,000 meters. How can you be so freaking narcissist to put your life and the lives of others in jeopardy? Hello you have a heart condition that puts limits in the climbing world. I feel sorry for those that loved him. Rip
Why risk your life for someone who doesn't care enough to protect their own😂
It is the climbers fault and no one else.
Ya know I think I’ll stick with Driskill Mountain thanks (RIP)
He finally decided to reveal he had a heart condition? Who's to blame? I think that's all you need to know.
just remembered Nepal is the most poorest country and mountaineering is a form of economics for them
im noticing with most of these deaths there is a 'he/she didnt listen' component...
Is anyone to blame?
When I was young I was taught that only YOU are responsible for your actions and safety. No one forces you to spend your money to climb a mountain, in fact I support your freedom to do so. There will always be people (or climbing groups) ready to take your money. But if you die in the process, it is your own fault.
None of this was caused by overcrowding. What are you even talking about? And you can't throw someone over your shoulder and tote them down. People understand this before they decide to climb. I have no idea what idiots are responding to you like you had even one valid point.
Maybe try fishing or jet skis or boats or something a little more practical unless deadly
Plus you can wear a life jacket
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Afghanistan is a poor country, so the guy must have been very rich.
It's matter of time till the mountain will be renamed to "Darwin's"
@@Snookums680 As awfull this case might be, if he would back off becuse of his cough, he could be aslive. Not to mention he KNEW he had heart disease - and under such tremendous stress this was basically suicide.
Isn't there a range called The Darwins? Maybe in Patagonia?
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Eli ekber sąkhı
Only those that tied in with him and he himself are to blame.
Stepping over a dying man, who was fatally injured while setting your ropes, without helping or even trying....
Yeah. That was fucked up.
Then no one would ever make it to the summit. If he died setting the ropes it’s obvious that he didn’t finish placing the ropes. He knew he was dead either way.. If something happens on K2 you know they’re dead and can’t do nothing to help. Most climbers don’t have the skills or ability to help someone down. They also didn’t have to correct equipment to save someone up that high. That’s life when climbing
not a climber but isn't there an unwritten rule that says "every man for himself" on the mountain?
nope their sure isnt. most of these climbers are just trash people. the sherpas save people every day
Sumitting a mountain the same day 136 other people do it while you have 10 Sherpa is NOT a achieve.
says the guy sitting on his couch staring into his phone
No
Very simple if you play stupid games you win stupid prizes
Its womens fault, for not making everything dangerous unlawful.
If that's meant to be sarcasm, nice try.
If not, go troll elsewhere.
how are women going to do that when theyre at home baking cookies?
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It is absolute sheer selfishness that is destroying the climbing fraternity.... i think it disgusting, that very few, of the hundreds on these mountains, has the guts to help their fellow climbers.... all tainted with the Krakour syndrome... a yellow streak running down their backs.
What's the yellow stripe for? Props or urine?
@@danielwhite7380 take your pick... it is self explanatory....
@@normanmackenzie8130 i....dont get.......it