Jim Cornette Reviews MJF Confronting William Regal on AEW Dynamite
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- From Episode 266 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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I was waiting for this. Only Regal could turn the crowd from booing like that to cheering him after his promo. This was a masterclass on how to give promos in the business
No, a lot of people could do that, wrestling crowds are fickle, especially in AEW. Someone they like starts yelling with conviction they’ll start cheering. It’s not a miracle.
@@kipdaedricartifact nah when someone as over as mjf turn u heel, it’s a hard task . William Regal ain’t an Indy darling either
@@kipdaedricartifact You're not wrong, I'd just focus on the "with conviction" bit. MJF put on another promo of a lifetime the week after Hangers tried to do the same. The former has the sincerity, skill, and the conviction. The latter just ended up gathering support among the already faithful and the others laaaaaaughed.
Hope Hangers heals quickly, but gah-damn he could learn a thing from MJF. But Hangers is also on record not being particularly willing to learn so...guess we've just gotta hold on to MJF's conviction while it's here.
@@Guy4318 Yeah it’s actually really pissed me off how nobody’s held Adam Page accountable whatsoever. Everyone’s blaming Punk, when Page and the Bucks started this whole thing by lying about Punk and spreading rumours for no reason. Punk was also completely right in calling Page an “empty headed dumb fuck” who refuses to take advice and learn from vets. Fucking moron and nobody’s holding him to it. Apparently it’s just Punk who’s egotistical and problematic. The dude was literally just defending himself. I hate wrestling fans.
"Only Regal"...yeah, no other talented takers in the business that could do the same...
The way Regal turned that crowd back around in his favor.....what a master. Finally, they're using him the right way!
Wonderful promo from both MJF and Regal. Made the crowd cheer both after getting booed
Not only that, but both men had the crowd silent while talking. Had their full attention. It the most real feeling promo I've heard in years. Both men killed it out there.
I loved Regal on this, this was one of those 'honest opinion' segments. Regal turned the crowd. I just love the "you haven't done anything", "your getting paid, for what?" especially if i feel it's real. Regal was good. "you want to be the villain (devil), going ahead, prove it".
It's deeply problematic though cuz Regal should never had to of turned the crowd. Nothing MJF said should have gotten the crowd on his side. The gist of his promo was him crying and whining that Regal didnt hook him up with a major job in a major promotion after just 1 year of experience as a pro wrestler. I loved both promos, but the fan reaction was perplexing and actually tarnished it BIG TIME as their reaction objectively did not match what was actually being said.
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"One of the most amazing verbal performances I've ever seen." - Jim Cornette, 2022
This is why Jim likes AEW more than WWE. Sure WWE is more polished and professional, but the good shit in aew is REALLY good.
@@TheFailedmessiah wait what? I was under the impression Cornette hates almost everything in AEW barring a few exceptions such as MJF and FTR, and actually appreciates more of the WWE product overall
Maxwell Jacob Friedman is of another world......
This was an incredible segment.
Both MJF and William Regal are truly Excellent 🙂
MJF is a masterful story teller. Each week he's the highlight of the show. Watching this promo I was blown away by how he told his story in a way that made you invested in what he was saying. Such believability which is missing from AEW and wrestling in general. How this guy hasn't been world champion there yet is beyond me. He's the best thing going in wrestling today.
He will be in November
Does he need it? He seems to be doing fine without artificially raising the stakes involving the title.
Somethings are worth the wait and you get a better payoff. Because the crowd/fans have anticipated that one day MJF will win the big one and it'll be so much sweeter! Than hot shot booking like have done with the tagteam belts!
Regal explained in the segment why MJF isn't a world champion yet. He hasn't done anything other than winning a worthless battle royal that's led to a series of pointless and worthless feuds where he does and says the same exact thing in all of them.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 It seems the people in the comment section can't figure that out
MJF is such a gem on the mic.
He just does it all the right way. This is the promo that takes a story up a couple of notches
The two best promo segments of this year were MJF promo segments (this one and his "Fire Me"). Dude is special.
Hell yea🔥🔥🔥
I’ll add another one. The one vs CM Punk.
@@hankdatank09 Yes, people are already forgetting his beef with CM Punk.
@@Seriona1 I mean they’re not wrong, but let’s not forget his highlights thus far. He truly is a generational talent.
@@hankdatank09 Yes he is. Just when I thought I heard the best promo possible from him, he cuts another. That man must never go to WWE, I don't care where he goes, just not there.
I haven't been as sucked into a promo like that since I was a kid and actually believed.
So glad there's someone like MJF in wrestling atm, incredible on the mic. It's something desperately lacking in wrestling generally atm
MJF is among these new wrestlers I’ve seen that can cut promo and gets the reaction that’s needed
Yea I don't think there's a person that can go toe to toe with mjf on the mic. Once he fully turns baby face the roof will blow off the place
@@Kas58223 that's not new, it's just been missing for abiut a decade, for the most part. Character work gets ignored too much. Saki Zayn is a great example of simplifying your skill set, but working on you're character and he's one of, if not the best thing in WWE right now
@@TD1021- wasn’t this promo his turn ?
@@Hypno_BPM idk it's hard to tell at times with him lol
I think Regal's gonna be his manager in the end of Full Gear, when he wins the AEW title.
I was hoping the same thing
why ? MJF has been doing fine without a manager so far. What could Regal provide that he doesn’t have already ?
@@Hypno_BPM experience
@@GraveMemories i disagree big time. Regal hasn’t really done anything for the BCC either so why would it suddenly change with MJF ? i think he’s fine on his own and tbh i rather see him continue on his own and win the belt on his own.
William Regal was the best on the microphone imo. He hit a home run.
Agreed
MJF murdered this promo, he always delivers!
I squeal like a little kid when he's going to talk........ GENIOUS!
MJF knocks it out of the park every time! And Regal showed his worth!! These two are magic!
It seems like everytime MJF kind of blurs the line between real life and work promo its phenomenal. First Punk, now Regal and both promos were gold
Best promo I’ve heard since the muffin bomb.
This segment was just incredible this is in my Honest opinion promo of the year for pro wrestling I was glued to my TV throughout the segment I had no clue about MJF being in WWE until I did research this was so good it's great seeing Willam Regal in AEW.
You can go on TH-cam and see MJF wearing a yellow button up STAFF shirt. MJF was there to escort Samoa Joe and Joe pushes him out of the way. That is what he was referring to. I’d bet when MJF vs Samoa Joe happens he will reference it in their promos.
@@1Smooth1 LMFAO I've seen that and I've been waiting for MJF to Feud with Samoa Joe in AEW since that happened that's long term Booking because didn't that a happen a few years ago I can't remember what year it happened.
@@benespinosa6725 if i had to guess it was 5-7 years ago. MJF looks about 19-20 years old then. His build is average then. Now he’s jacked for his size.
This was up there with the first punk and MJF promo I still think that was better just because you can tell they didn’t rehearse that. This seemed more cooperative , still great no matter what
@@deejayconner1760 that was also great
MJF needs to be in WWE. A fued between him and Randy Orton would be epic.
The beauty of MJF is that even as a heel, he's extremely relatable. He represents the underdogs that have succumb to their own anger and madness in the excruciating process of trying to succeed in any profession. Hell, life in general.
This is a great point, and - not to rag on Hangers too much but - that's why Hangers doesn't connect with me. He can talk about medicine and anxiety but none of it feels real, and all I see around him is a system that was specifically designed to make him an over world champion and he neither rose to nor seems to appreciate that fact. Kingston and MJF share one thing in their promos, and that's that they're both almost begging their opponent to try and make them small so that they can take their violence out on them. That's something I understand.
Every villain is a hero in their own story lol
"even" as a heel? Villains are always the flawed people that end up more relatable than babyfaces. Faces are supposed to behave like the ideal version of a character you should aspire to be. Heel is what most of us actually behave like - weak and fallible individuals.
Anybody that says MJF is overrated needs to watch that promo. Prime flair vibes
^This. MJF is the Ric Flair of the 21st century.
@@anthonyrousseau8050 amen brother
please stop insulting MJF. He actually does good promos and ones that are relevant to building a story.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone else get through to MJF the way Regal just did. Punk got close.
I just came to hear Jim love wrestling in 2022 for 11:33. Thank you MJF!
I’m honestly ashamed to admit that I’d forget how magnificent regal is on the mic… beyond embarrassed in myself
The best promos are the ones that have a little bit of reality in them and MJF delivers them with PERFECTION
It was hard to tell which was the heel and which was the babyface. It was the absolute best promo session since the attitude era. Hands down
It went back and forth it was genius.
huh? How was it hard to tell that? Rewatch the promo and actually listen to what MJF is saying. It's a dude whining and crying that Regal didn't gift him a job despite the fact that he was brand new to the biz. This was CLASSIC arrogant, entitled heel bullshit from MJF. It was delivered brilliantly, dont get me wrong, but he was 100% straight up heel thru and thru here. There wasn't even anything grey about it. I'm genuinely baffled by the reaction to it, both the fans at the event for some reason cheering him and booing regal as well as comments like yours here.
MJF is going to be on top for a very very long time guys this guy is magic on the mic
He'll only be on top when he signs with the WWE and becomes Universal Champion.
@@anthonyrousseau8050 or if his reign as aew champion become legendary
Viewers really increased then it will solidify mjf as true superstar
I know only one guy can't do this bcoz you need multiple good personality and character to engage audience through out the show ricky is there but they never use him and i wish Hobbs alligen himself with mjf and regal would able to manage hobbs it'll be great for Hobbs
He needs to stay in AEW. The top of the card in WWE is way too big for him so fans will say they are misusing him if they pair him with the smaller guys in the mid card. AEW has the perfect size of wrestlers for him
@@arturomontoya3638 MJF is doomed to stalling if he remains in AEW. He'll be nothing more than the best in the world... of a mark company, never leaving the circle of hardcore fans. By going to the WWE, he can receive way more visibility, become known worldwide and maybe even turn into an actor in a couple years.
The cards issue would've been a legitimate worry if Vince McMahon was still at the helm. Triple H doesn't have the same prejudices (as his NXT resume will show). He knows how talented MJF is and will give him the top-of-the-card push he deserves.
@@anthonyrousseau8050 iirc he said in a recent podcast that he wants to go to hollywood so yeah he’d need to have more exposure that WWE has.
It was a rollercoaster wasn't it? Absolutely amazing from both men, the way they took the crowd back and forth between cheering and booing both of them as they spoke, it was a master class and a command performance.
The microphone that MJF used to cut that promo should be put into the Smithsonian...
FACT
I agree 100% with everything you guys are saying, except that “it wasn’t a standing ovation.” I was there and it DEFINITELY WAS a standing ovation after he threw the mic down! If anyone wasn’t standing prior, they were after he finished! Everyone got up after that! It was amazing to see in person.
This was great. I hope MJF remains a heel.
I hoped Acclaimed remained heel, but if they can cheer for scissors who knows.
Gonna be hard to keep him a heel when idiot AEW fans cheer for him like they did here.
His supposed “face-turn” is a red herring, remember “the greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the public he didn’t exist”
But the irony of that is the fact the "smart" fans understand MJF will NEVER been a face and yet he continues to tease it, means it would actually be one hell of a swerve if he did actually go face.
@@Seriona1 it would be quite the swerve indeed. But can you really see mjf kissing babies and preaching hustle loyalty and respect?
I remember Regal from as early as his British wrestling days and never really appreciated the reason I legitimately hated him is because he wanted me to…he was brilliant here that smarmy smirk of his is as golden as the knucks in his pocket
Regal joined a very exclusive club. The Vince McMahon kiss my ass club.
I was there live and when MJF finished we all thought Regal was done and we thought MJF ethered his shit
Then Regal put his hand out waiting for the mic and started talking. Then he cut maybe the best promo counter to MJF since Cody.
The promos from both men were both just amazing
Mjf has slowly grown on me to the point hes my favourite modern era wrestler. A killer on the Mic and pretty darnn good in the ring too.
This one segment was better than the entirety of NXT on Tuesday.
Perfecting the ever elusive "Babyface Heel" is well within MJF's grasp; The Good Bad Guy everyone both Loves and Loves to Hate, simultaneously.
TOP 3 things that I’m thankful for everyday!
1-) My health
2-) My wife
BUT more importantly,
3-) That MJF chose wrestling as a profession.
We've seen it done before. Someone rises to the top as a heel, the crowd gets behind them, then you just tweak the character slightly to turn them face while keeping the same energy that made them a great heel. Hopefully they follow the playbook with MJF.
You know they won't. Jericho do everything behind the scenes to ensure MJF doesn't overshadow him.
@@anthonyrousseau8050 they don't have a choice, the turn is already in progress. The crowd will force it the same way they did with The Rock way back in the day. Rock got over by roasting the shit outta everyone, and the crowd started to love it.
Thanks Jim I’ve been waiting for your insight on this. It was captivating but I didn’t know what to think of it. To me it put Regal over and I’m looking for what it did for MJF
MJF routinely uses the word "mid" as an insult, yet is still hung up about an e-mail from a mid-carder seven years ago. That says a lot.
A riveting exchange between MJF and Regal. Loved it! With all of the faded out, abandoned, or nonexistent storylines, these are the moments worth tuning in for on AEW
A Good analogy of Jerry Lawler. He becomes a face because of what he did. Not just because of who he was against. I know Jim could say it better than I could.
Im patiently waiting MJFs promo on Samoa Joe pushing him 😂
😂😂
That promo between MJF and Regal was the best thing on AEW …..EVER!!!💯
True story
Been watching this stuff since the 50s and next to the Rock, MJF is the premiere performer on the mic. A more articulate version of Piper and believe me Roddy was terrific.
@@MrMarkgeller Been watching since the 80s mate and I can honestly say that was the best single promo I've ever witnessed. Piper was in a different league bit also a different category as was the Rock. I'd put that promo on the Mount Ben Nevis of promos. I'm English so Rushmore don't count here
Jericho has become the complete opposite of what I praised him for 10 years ago.
How so?
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob not in his presentation, ringwork or promo, but in the way that he's a vampire who's only tarnished every younger person he's worked with.
So true. Jericho was putting a lot of people 10 yrs ago. Hell he put over fandango at wrestlemania🤣. But now he is just leeching off on younger talent and totally misusing the so called creative freedom with his stupid ideas
Regal & MJF...you had me at hello.
I actually loved regal’s part of the promo so much better he is very underrated i love his promos like a proper english villain arrogant and posh
Steel sharpens steel. This was brilliant
They were incredible. I loved hiw Regal brought the crowd back after they were booing him. Great promo by both. Very professional.
MJF saved that episode the other night like he does damn near every week
I know it won't happen but there's a part of me that really wants to see MJF v Regal in the ring. Imagine the stories that could be told.
Regal is probably too old to do it. But once upon a time Regal could have given MJF a big wrestling lesson.
This promo was GOLD
My girlfriend, who has no interest in pro wrestling, stopped and listened to what MJF was saying because for once, someone on this product sounded real! Him and Christian Cage are the only two she remembers by name from AEW. She refers to everyone else by their gimmick.
IE:
Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus = Tarzan Kid and The Dino.
Hook = Guy Who Thinks His Hair Is Cool.
Orange Cassidy = Pockets ( Thanks to Cornette )
@Fred Brown 🤥
@@reece1341 hahaha why would I lie about this 😂 what would I gain from this at all
@@fredbrown8344 has no interest in pro wrestling but she listens to Cornette🤔
@@reece1341 you do realize Cornette runs a podcast right? Most people listen to podcasts when they go on drives or while theyre doing some cleaning around the house. My girlfriend and I spend much of our time together so she'll hear him on long drives when I'll throw cornettes podcast on. She thinks Cornette is pretty funny so she doesn't mind it really all that much.
Mark my words he is going to be 30 and he will be the reigning champion and headlining wrestlemania
This was one of my favourite segment of all times ! And not just in AEW! I've been watching wrestling for practically 3 decades. I thought it was fantastic!
William Regal is a Man's Man a real lumberjack
Regal's "kill me if you're a real villain" gambit was fucking awesome.
MJF,
Best Wyatt and Austin Theory are the future of this industry.
Those 3 are the best thing in Wrestling right now 🙂
Been waiting for this one
This was awesome, what a promo from MJF it was so real life based that it made you into this it made you believe. Regal was also very good & overall the promo built in nice for the Mox feud were MJF will go over as AEW World Champion at Full Gear. Very very good television this promo... 👏
This segment was pure perfection.
Great stuff, gentlemen. Glad you dropped this earlier than usual!
It seems to be they’re building towards Regal betraying Blackpool Club to help MJF win and thus maintain his heel position by cutting corners again to win the championship.
Masterfully executed by both MJF and William Regal Astonishing.
Like so many others I have been waiting for this review. This promo from both was sooooooooo good , like I've said before this between MJF and Will was next level good ,you could feel every word from both. This is why I love wrestling promos. Great review from both Cornett and Last . Keep up the awesome work. And they cannot be stupid enough to turn aew face (but this is Tony khan and aew mind) MJF is the best heel for me
They'll never admit this publicly, but you know- you just KNOW- it kills the Bucks and Omega to see that the most over guy maybe in either company is MJF. The guy who never ever resorts to their flips and/or comedy in his matches.
The facial expressions in the artwork are killing me 🤣
MJF is just so entertaining and he's so different from everyone else. His promo's are above average. He had the best match with Yuta I've ever seen. I like Yuta now he can work the mic skills will come with time. MJF makes ppl better in the ring. This is wrestling folks.
I've seen the potential in Yuta and he's been cosigned by Regal, Danielson, and Mox. I trust those three guys tbh
MJF's promo was basically the same "im a Jew boy, i had ADHD, and you almost made me quit the business" promo that he cut in his feud with Punk. There was virtually nothing different about it except for the fact that he made himself and his whole generation look soft in the process. If someone almost made him quit over an email, he's not that good.
@@MrDXW1213 Nah, Yuta is still a dead-end to me. At best, he might carve a niche as an upper mid-card guy but otherwise, he's just being carried by better wrestlers.
Ever seen? Must be a young fan because Steamboat vs Flair, Funk, Robert’s vs Macho Man we’re all great phycology matches better than Yuta. Not even close.
@@1Smooth1 Look a Yuta's matches his best match is with MJF. We're talking about the present future of professional wrestling. Flair and steamboat is classic but flair could only work one style of match. Savage and Roberts was great but Jake's talent was wasted in wwf and savage went on to be a star and the mascot for Slim Jim's.
MJF has so much passion in his delivery he is one of a kind, i hope he wins the big one soon.
Regal just schooled MJF, who, like Regal said, hasn't done anything yet.
Austin still stunned everybody, Rock still did the “It doesn’t matter what your name is” gimmick, and Orrin still attacks everybody as the “good guy”.
This promo was awesome
MJF is the lone reason to watch AEW
Absolutely
MJF is the #1 reason AEW needs to die. Because its existence only holds MJF back from being in the WWE and becoming a worldwide name.
It was Regal's part that did it for me. MJF gave a wonderful performance of a babyface promo that I recognize as well executed but didn't connect with. When Regal came in that's what made it for me, taking what MJF said and layering it, so it made sense with the established "devil" character of MJF. Without Regal it wouldn't have worked as well.
In a week he'll be singing with the Combat Club.
Hope it's better than his singing with Jericho.
MJF's WWE Tough Enough audition tape is still on WWE's youtube channel
Was awaiting this segment
The only part that made me roll my eyes is when mjf said the old chestnut “this is real life dammit!” 😂
I want to see William Regal pull the knucks out and cost Mox the world title. Then have Regal & MJF start Dynamite together, celebrating MJF’s World title reign and have Regal explain that THIS is the MJF he always knew was there. And that Regal now recognizes MJF as having reached his true potential.
It wouldn’t fit the context of the story: of Regal not wanting MJF to take shortcuts. Now if MJF wins clean and THEN Regal lays out Moxley then that order would make sense.
Yeah and then the Blackpool Cuckold Club disbands
@@kingslayer2999 it is gonna happen sooner rather than later, imo. Factions like the Elite, BCC, JAS, etc haven't panned out the way they would in say NJPW.
@@bucketophil Regal said he has no problem with taking liberties with your opponent. He gave him a very specific out.
There is nobody like MJF in wrestling today. It’s very possible that by the time he retires, he goes down as the greatest ever on the mic. He is an undeniable megastar
The Miz.
I hope Regal made the turn... if you wanna get more close to Hunter, you know, you must have Regal on your side
Love the artwork
Glad this is up
MJF is the only reason to watch AEW. I can’t wait for him to join WWE in a few years.
One of the best aew segments since the company started
Top tier stuff from both gents in that segment.
Mr Regal was brilliant in that segment, Tony Kahn should be listening to someone with a track record not Jericho
At this point, Regal should just take over AEW.
MJF is a Heel that gets over with the fans, much like "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, The Rock (Dwayne Johnson), Jerry "The King" Lawler, Bret "Hitman" Hart & the late Brian Pillman when they were Heels.
I feel like this is setting up an arc, where we see MJF almost redeem himself, almost become a babyface...and then just plunges into absolutely, utterly mega-heel mode.
You heard it here 1st.....regal uses the knucks on moxley, giving the championship to MJF and possibly forming a new alliance between MJF and Regal.
Ahh good one. I'm in for that, get regal outta that dumb roh group
MJF will be the next Ric Flair. Great mic and ring skills
MJF is the only NY native that's over with Corny
As far as being a villain origin story, it's kinda like Syndrome from Incredibles 1.
MJF definitely is one of the best things going for AEW right now. and i think the thing he managed to figure out for himself is understanding how to take the story of his life and slowly unfold it properly. and truthfully that is AEW's strength if they allow their talent to do so. When Punk came in and got to speak, people were with him because he got to tell the truth. i think when Saraya did her promo, the audience wanted to hear her story because they're emotionally invested into these people. and AEW occasionally allows the wrestlers do that. that's how Eddie Kingston partly got over.
Regal obviously did great here and i was worried for one second that the crowd would turn on him or that MJF had just done that much better. Still, Regal getting the chance to show his story to get to the point of where MJF is still learning his lessons and developing right in front of our eyes was amazing.
now, not all people should be telling their story because not all people are capable of executing that aspect. like Jungle Boy talking about being over his father's grave, it just was bleh. or Page trying to portray anger through insanity coming off more like a temper tantrum rather than understanding how to tell his side of the story was more humorous because it made him seem more childish than an adult. part of it is because i don't think the people like JB really believe their own stories that they're forcing. and you can tell these people are trying to search themselves to figure out how to be emotional like a method actor. but i find it all abstract because there's something missing. i really believe the word here is conviction. why go on a quest that really isn't your own? and again that conviction isn't there because i don't think the story really exist. they're digging and not finding it.
but with MJF it sounds very plausible. everything he's said has been consistent, everything is very relatable and you can feel the anger boiling inside of him which has led him to make these questionable decisions. he's kinda like Mark Zuckerberg from The Social Network where he'll do anything to stomp out his enemies and just keep pushing even if it means alienating himself from everyone else. that's a real story you can latch onto and people can relate to. that's why he works and why i think it's easy for a guy like Regal or Punk to work with him because they have similar stories or situations that connect to his.
Every time I see good segments like this with him it makes me so sad that he doesn't have a true dance partner. I wish that he just had somebody preferably somebody young that could give it back to him as good as he gives it.
You are so right hopefully someone will step up but you are absolutely dead on
That could of been Cody but he left. Also was supposed to be CM Punk but punk f'ed that up. Not sure who else is a good enough talker in AEW and under 30, but also over as a wrestler? Hook doesn't talk and only works squash matches. Dan Haunsen is booked for laughs only. Who else can touch MJF in AEW & under 30?!
Ricky Starks is probably the only other young guy who can hang with MJF in the ring and on the mic. If MJF is on his path to the World title, then Starks needs to be gathering wins and getting a midcard belt in the meantime… before finally confronting MJF
He needs cm punk back so much
@@Voysh2Voysh69 Agreed Starks is goated
I just looked it up on TH-cam and watched it. That was fucking incredible.