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- Pokemon Competitive Singles has been turned on it's head with the release of the "Hidden Treasure of Area Zero" DLC. Bloodmoon Ursaluna sure is an all new Ursaluna. This one uses special attacks though.
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The move "Blood Moon" has a very high base power and thanks to "Mind's Eye" also known as "Scrappy 2", nothing can switch in against it. Woohoo!
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The Pokémon Showdown Pokédex said it's in the "Field" egg group and not the "Undiscovered" egg group, so unless the egg becomes Teddiursa, this fact would cause Ursaluna to flood the Pokémon Home GTS if it was true.
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I can’t believe it. 8 gens after gen 1 and “bulky normal type just firing hyper beam” is back to being meta.
Aside from the fact that blood moon is 10x better than hyper beam
It's not hyper beam tho as you had a turn where you did nothing and were vulnerable. This you just can't use the move twice. Huge difference.
You guys have never had a Tauros mirror every round of a tournament and it shows...
@@wadewillson9220 Not in Gen 1. In Gen 1 if you got a kill with hyper beam there was no rest turn.
@@otttimon5654 Gen 1 hyper beam was way more broken lmao. If you got a KO with it then there was no rest turn making mons like Tauros absolute monsters.
you know you are a problematic pokemon when people run the most niche checks to it and those checks still can be beaten
Beaten by BLuna itself no less with just minor tweaks; a speed invested Taunt BLuna can 1v1 Clefable, whereas a BLuna that also carries Hyper Voice for dual Normal STAB can completely circumvent Sub/Protect opponents wanting to play around Blood Moon's cooldown
What does a check mean?
The most niche check for BLuna i've seen was an Assault Vest Arboliva on a Grassy Terrain team, whose strat was to tank Blood Moon, set up terrain, then OHKO with a Giga Drain and get all its health back.
back when ogerpon-h was in the format, I was using banded lokix and slither wing first impression to deal with it lmao, but even that was sketchy
for bmluna i was running shit like spdef corv, but nothing is stopping bmlune from just cming on you
@@wentoneisendon6502a pokemon that can "challenge" the opponent, checks are normally what balances out extremely versatile pokemon!!
N.t:Sorry for the bad english
This is the second special Normal-type move with a 150 BP and a drawback to dominate OU
@@PudcupHyper Beam in gen 1
Well Hyper Beam was physical in gen 1 but whatever I think everyone gets the point.
@@undeadmyth9977tbf no physical special split was wacky
Hyper beam was only good when it was physical
@michael_betts um u realize then theres giga impact, basically physical hyper beam
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And we finally saw the daylight of the 6th ray
Amazing how Blissey rose all the way up to OU to counter Bloodmoon.
A Pokemon that learns Body Press.
Oh my god
It was also dealing with manaphy
Blissey can't do anything to it I've taken out them easily unless they terra steel or something
@@Uohhhh777 bliss needs toxic back to be why threat to anything
@@wonderfulrose477 terra poison ursaluna with grassy surge rillaboom and Grassy seed is nearly impossible to beat
Never forget Skymin 100% 🙏
I was just using skymin in ubers and i missed 3 seed flares in a row😭(also unban him its not that cancerous)
Bro said 60% flinches and 80% spdef drops ain't that bad😭
“not that cancerous”
>127 speed
>80% chance to harshly lower spdef
>60% chance to flinch
okay
@@thanoscarssbu153 honestly the spdef drops aren't that bad but the 60% flinch is cancer but covert cloak exists.
@@hayyan958if it requires every pokemon to run covert cloak to have a consistent shot at checking it, it should probably be banned
I think that if bloodmoon came out before regular ursaluna it would have gotten quickbanned. But the fact that ursaluna came out and then turned out to be underwhelming despite the sky high expectations of it, gave some people pause about the strength of bloodmoon. As it turns out, there were enough differences between the two for a drastic shift in power. I think it’s good that time was taken to definitively determine these differences
I think speed is usually a big factor when it comes to Pokemon being broken, the main difference is that normal Ursaluna wears itself down and Bloodmoon is really bulky and has good recovery options. When you look at slower offensive Pokemon that were banned in some tiers like Mega Mawile, Melmetal, Kingambit and Magearna they all spend some time in their tiers prior to a ban because its always reasonable to assume that you can simply defeat them by being faster and disrupt or outoffense them.
Like I said
The Virgin Ursaluna vs The Chad Eviolite Ursaring
I remember when this got revealed, and people were saying it was going to be worse than base Ursaluna, with a lower attacking stat, worse speed bracket, and... I don't remember the other reason. Either way, I remember laughing to myself at that video, thinking this mon is what happens when Tinkaton gets good attack.
Regular Ursaluna is basically immune to status because everyone runs the guts/flame orb set.
That is something that BM doesn’t have. But BM has set up, healing, and a broken ability instead.
People also though that BM would be less bulky on the special side because BM has less health and special defense, but Calm Mind fixes that. A single Calm Mind boost also boost it’s special attack to similar levels to what Base has with a flame orb. So with all of that, BM becomes substantial better than base.
The Smogon forum for it is pretty hilarious. There were people who thought it would be UU at best, and that Blood Moon was bad because, in singles, it’s Boomburst but worse.
@@aldolibreri791your first point is moot because to accomplish that it kills itself, L. BMU has a better attacking profile for it's typing, a better ability and recovery that isn't rest or leftovers+protect.
It was always going to be as good as the other one, especially once we saw it's movepool
I was one of the skeptics of Ursaluna classic. I pointed out that without speed or priority it'd struggle as an offensive threat, and without recovery it'd struggle as a defensive one. Old Rampardos theorem struck again - people never learn.
Then Blood Moon came along and had both priority and healing, as well as a way to hit ghosts on the switch because why freaking not.
@@goobingtons To be fair people always ignore Bulk Up and Rest combination on Base Ursaluna. With this Setup you can fully invest into HP and Spdef. And Rest even negates the Burn Damage while asleep. Once you get a boost or two especially on Tera Normal the only way to really stop it is either. The Strongest Fighting Types in the game with High Base Power Moves to boot which have there own drawbacks 90 percent of the time. Or again on the Opposite Side Strong Fighting Special Attackers but how many of those are actually good?
i have some words for the person that decided that blood moon can hit ghost types, as if it wasn't powerful enough
I mean that wouldn't be so bad if BM wasn't a base 140 power stab move, it's the combination of everything that makes it a problem
@@homerman76blood Moon isn't that busted tbh it's basically a slightly better hyper beam. The problem was the bulk
@@bigmonke3348i am againist 99% of Smogon quickbans and even i took a good look at Bloodmoon and went "no this shit is actually broken".
@@bigmonke3348"a slightly better hyper beam" he says. Meanwhile it literally does everything except power better and is exclusive to a mon with scrappy LMAO
@@goobingtonsI mean you can't really add the last thing on as a reason why they're wrong when hitting Ghosts is inherent to the mon, not the move.
And less bulk and worse recovery really would mean that it would be significantly easier to just kill this thing before it has a chance to just sit there alternating between nuking, boosting, and healing.
Blood moon is insane. No immunity switch ins. No dodging it. It’s also special which is extremely relevant given that it’s resistances, steel and rock, tend to be defense oriented rather than special
You know zamezenta exist
@@lordquastheonlyIt's in ubers (unless you're talking about hero form which isn't steel type) but anyway neither of them are special oriented (base 140 of both defenses) and even if it they were OP said "tend" not "always are"
Wouldn't celesteela wall Ursaluna?
@@austinjordan8308 I assume it's the same case as 1:35
That Bloodmoon art at the start was pretty cool. Not surprised by the banning, I've been racking my brain for counters that can endure its coverage
Not related to the video but ADV revival matches have been all bangers
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Yea I love all his videos, but there's a buncha other poketubers doin gen 9. I like jimothys breakdown more than most but I mostly watch this channel for adv OU content. I love learning that mediocre pokemon like lunatone, glalie, banette, etc are all very usable in gen 3 (if you know what you're doing, I usually do not)
@@jazzercise300Don't forget learning about the most common and reliable OU threats, like Mixed Poliwrath, Butterfree, and the Duskull + Dusclops Curse Core.
As time goes on, and more of these basic broken pokemon that are keep getting created only for them to be banished to Ubers *(and proceed to not have any niche there whatsoever)* an UUbers doesn't seem so bad afterall.
And then OUbers, NUbers and RUbers.
I think there’s an unofficial format named that right now, a youtuber named chompy went over it a little bit
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@@scrunkorehonestly I'm open to renaming the tiers like divisions in high school sports in America. Division 1, 2, etc.
UUbers is a good idea if you think about it, a lot of Ubers suck in Ubers and would need UUbers to be used in any format legally. This makes it pretty clear UUbers are good seeing as how they cannot hurt and they make more pokemon able to be used.
-Near-perfect STAB coverage
-Calm Mind to boost its bulk and break past the one thing that resists its STAB
-Fuckload of good tools.
Worth mentioning that 2 of those good tools were reliable recovery to go with that boosted bulk OR a priority move that patches up its bad speed and takes on just about anything that resists Blood Moon
Might be just a little overtuned
This is one of those pokemon that really feels designed around VGC where the fact that you can double into it and that its most threatening options are single target (-hyper voice which isn't really a guranteed part of the set) make it a scary but quite managable mon outside of trick room (and even then it still can be played around in all the usual trick room ways). Kind of an unfortunate side effect of pokemon leaning into vgc as an appeal for the games in the singles environment
I think it’s more designed around giving children a broken Pokémon to sweep NPCs with.
@@jericho86 good for you man
@@jericho86Children don't do dex completion. I don't think they've even tried since gen 2.
And given you have to do some major dex filling to get Bloodmoon (who has quite literally zero ingame content to use it on after for the time being), no child will ever use it unless it's traded to them
I'm not mad. Im happy that our silly bear got such powerful form and broke into Ubers. Look at em go
Har Har har har har harr har Harr har Harr
@@jianchristian1367Freddy fazbear????!!!!
I swear to god imagine explaining to someone from 2003 that Goldfish, Primeape evolution and teddy bear will be banned to Uber while tyranitar is in UU.
@@The_Moodi ttar dropping to UU was tragic
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 even more tragic when he was in RU and gyarados was the one to get quick ban, not ttar
I absolutely love bloodmoon ursalunas design and clicking blood moon and 2 shotting a corviknight is fun but it sure is a problem
In its favor, it might as well be a legendary considering the way you obtain it in game
I disagree with the ban. I will not be explaining further. Cheers.
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-refuses to elaborate further
-leaves
The power creep this gen is insane lol
Iron Mugulis rigged the ban, as BM Ursaluna is the only one capable of stoping such a foe.
I swear there are so many strong Pokemon being introduced this generation that soon enough, (maybe next generation?) they might need to be a tier between OU and Ubers
technicaly there is, uubers. It's new but it's basicaly what UU is to OU but with Ubers
Yeah, the power creep is getting very real lately Ttar and Garchomp's fall from grace is proof of that, especially when you realize that Dragonite is the only pseudo, not from the two most recent gens, to be in OU and above, with Dragapult being in OU and Baxcalibur in Ubers. It's honestly kind of crazy just how much the meta has shifted in these last two gens
@@lordmew5 Who cares, UUbers is being develop
@@kimotokirby1601you really hit them with the don't care + ratio + uubers is in development
@@lordmew5 no one cares buddy. nothing you said makes any sense.
You only get one, so it kinda is a legendary.
But really, this Pokemon showed us how terrifying Tinka could have been
Calyrex shadow was also very one sided this gen 😂
I don’t think he was ever suspected. At least, I don’t remember it ever being legal this gen.
Fun fact. Bludmoon beat Calyrex Shadow by 0.12%.
@moeeyeguy531 it was quickbanned first, then it was suspect tested to see if it was healthy
The results should shock no-one
@@jamesgiles4517for sure, the only thing keeping Calyrex in check in SS was Yveltal and now it's gone so it's way too fast and strong
@@becausesakamoto5938Even if yveltal was here it wouldn't help. Tera Fairy Caly-S is completely unstoppable
Ursaluna really came out of nowhere this gen and started swinging
Disgusting that Chi-Yu would have the audacity to swear on the thumbnail. We demand a full and frank apology
All you’d get is “252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD you in Sun: 780-918 (197.9 - 232.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO”
shoutout to shaymin-sky for being so infuriating it got a higher ban vote than deoxys-attack and darkrai (uber staples) despite being quite bad in ubers.
??? Skymin was good in Ubers for its first two generations.
Blood moon is technically a Mythical Pokémon that only available one in each game, and can only be capture after a story gameplay
Random idea, what if all recharge moves like Hyper Beam, Rock Wrecker, Roar of Time etc… were changed so that instead of forcing a recharge turn, they simply can’t be used twice in a row? 🤔 how would that change things?
They would instantly become viable options just like blood moon, its pretty much draco meteor at that point except you dont have to switch out and back in to use it again you just have to stall a turn
@@SpaceFrog999 Hyper Beam Adaptability Porygon-Z go Brrrr
Is blast burn still in the game
@@GoldtisticYT Ah yeah Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon are still in the game. I just forgot to mention them
Multiple pokemon learn 2 recharge moves
Unless it's made so no "can't be used twice in a row" moves can be used during cooldown, it would be funny
Ursaluna is one of the coolest new evolutions kinda ruined the vibe by making an even more OP special version of it
Yeah as a balanced hackmons player I rarely see non legendaries used but ursaluna was used a bit by a few players high ladder which is very rare in a meta game where legendary base stat totals + access to almost all moves+ almost all abilities.
Gorbachev wishes he was as legendary as this wallbreaker.
I think it would have been nice if his signature move worked like gen 1 hyperbeam cause the current drawback doesnt seem that severe
My thoughts exactly! Like that kinda drawback and power works for tinkaton because it's one of few times game freak thought to give a pokemon a good type and move but not make it's states ridiculously high
It really isn't. You can get punished by spamming Gen 1 Hyper Beam recklessly.
Remember how Sirfetch'd signature move got blocked by a full recharge while Blood Moon on this OP beast gets barely any punishment?
It'd certainly constrain its movepool a bit more, but I think it might end up as powerful if a bit less versatile in moveset. Something like bm, calm mind, earth power, vacuum wave/hyper voice instead of potentially running moonlight.
@@digitaltailsmon4096It does not work for Tinkaton. She's seriously undertuned and went to generic support hell.
Tink's stats OR move should've had a drawback, both is too much for it to ever be truly great offensively like was the seeming intention of it's design.
Either remove Gigaton's drawback, or give it a +20 base attack and then it'll finally cook properly
Playing around it with air balloon tera flying gholdengo dueing my suspect run made me sweat a lot, glad that it's near unanimous and thus likely never getting tested in future games
Regular Ursaluna lives another day
Okay but who were the 2 people who thought it was okay to leave Deoxys A in OU
No actually, who thought it was even remotely okay to leave a Hydrogen bomb in a land of coughing babies
"But unlike Tinkaton, this pokémon has stats"
ouch
Ursaluna ended up really not being like your average bear...
yeah im surprised it took THIS long for it to happen, the only check he had was Blissey, and even that had some counterplay
The pretty much gave Snorlax stats to a pokemon with a better ability
this thumbnail goes so crazy lmao. love the vids, keep up the good work chief
I remember learning about this pokemon and thinking "Oh! Assault Vest Tyranitar might be able to counter some sets!" And then I saw Vaccuum Wave.
Do you mean Body Press? STAB Earth Power is like 1.7x stronger than Vacuum Wave against Ttar
B-Ursuluna has counters to Fighting by Fairy moves, counter to Steel by Ground moves, has recovery by Moonlight/Protect, can hit Ghost by Minds eye ability.
0:20 Damn, Doryuuzu got banned so hard it’s never been seen again. I wonder why Excadrill wasn’t on the list though.
Was that the Ban of '23?!
"they voted no right?" very topical jim dont forget to vote next week or you get a fine
love the music you use in the background, these snes tracks add a great vibe
When I first saw that stat block and ontop of your echoed voice on steriods hitting ghosts. This thing is crazy.
While i support the motivation and theory behind this ban as well as the overall ban structure of high level play, i personally feel that such bans should be restricted from affecting such handsome pokemon who deserve our attention and inclusion
BMLuna is just GSC Snorlax with an ability, special attack instead of attack, defense instead of special defense, and the best stab any normal type has ever had ever
Man, the bears can't catch a break from being banned
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: Banned from OU
Ursaluna: Banned from NDOU
Ursaring: Banned from PU
Beartic: Banned from ZU (twice)
Urshifu (both forms) Banned from OU
Guys is that freddy fazbear?
hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor
Blood Moon Ursaluna is basically RBY Tauros with more overtuned stats, a boosting and healing move, a better and Safer Hyper Beam and can hit ghost types
I use milotic with max HP and a flame orb to trigger Marvellous scales to make it have equal defend and special defence as high as possible.
I use haze, mirror coat, recover and scald and am able to take down this bear.
Blood Moon truly feels like the spiritual successor of Gen 1 Hyper Beam.
Jimothy there are some crazy UU bans that just happened, including Garchomp and Kommo-o
I don't know if I'd call banning garchomp from UU crazy
@@EllipticalReasoning it is considering how easy it is to deal with it.
This pokemon might as well be legendary you can only get 1 per game,i its acts as an in game boss fight, very high power stats, insane moveset. The only thing making this not legendary is gamefreak deciding to give the title to ovgrepon instead
Or maybe in mythical
literally unbreedable
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That final comment's venom about Bloodmoon and other modern offensive Pokémon can't help but make me think of Gengar, and your relationship with the curious development he had, where basically the niche of it's usage changed quite a lot thanks to effectively losing Ice Punch and now being able to use Shadow Ball properly.
im glad freezai is getting a rep hes been on the grind for a while and makes great content
well, made great content in the past. Not to come off as one of those "I miss the old ___" type of comments but like. I enjoyed his videos when he wasn't doing all the typical youtuber stuff of baity titles and "MaKe SuRe To LiKe AnD sUbScRiBe" like yes I know how the buttons work sir
Genuinely nothing against him, he's just pivoted pretty far away from the content I liked him for and every single other youtube viewer on this planet is eating it up uncritically.
he literally explains why he says that. i like that hes doing topic videos but his best content is always him commenting his battles and his thoughts. hes very good at explaining
giving vacuum wave was so out of pocket. i think priority is what sends it over the edge of uber. the later in the game you get, vacuum wave invalidates more and more revenge killers as they are weakened or ursaluna is boosted.
I can get over Gamefreak making ridiculous mons like this if their actions were consistent. Yet they give Tinkaton weak stats, take away moves from mons like Weavile, and nerf already weak mons that needed buffs.
Very much deserved, this bear has been so haunting on OU, he may as well been Freddy Fazbear himself!
Something that was touched on in the full analysis (due is it being on the build) was assault vest, which makes this this cover its poor special defense while still cutting through opponents, along with other ideas such as leftovers as shown, could go choice (while odd due to blood moon, it could be a surprise choice for hard knock outs) trick room builds would most likely cause huge trouble. It not only has high danger on its own but also high versatility which is crazy to think about. While it is enjoyable to see a normal type go crazy once again, the ban is sadly understandable.
This Pokémon is just so versatile at overcoming counters. Blissey? Tera poison/steel with cm or body press. Corv comes in? Bulky cm outpaces it with moonlight recovery. And the examples keep on going.
Sure it does gave counters especially since it can only run one set at the end of the day so while it could counter one pokemon it is still weak to others, but if you pressure your openent and take out the right counters then its hard to stop.
Very easy to finish a game with bloodmoon or come in early/mid game and blow away a few pokemon for other teammates. Requires too much to counter and it's very monoploizing.
blud had *ASSAULT VEST* on his Ursaluna-Bloodmoon with *CALM MIND* ☠
Not gonna lie, this ban might have been necessary. I was absolutely clapping other teams with a bulky calm mind set, once i got at least one or two cm's up it was basically gg lol
Oooooh that smooth background music... brings up so much and good memories
amazing video, the zacian analogy was smart
Bloodmoon feels like another pokemon designed to speed up vgc matches but won't warp their meta game too much, but just be a perfect noob check that can make rounds go fast ala fluttermane chi yu
Singles is an afterthought in terms of their design, but with moves like scald and recover it seems pokemon did care a BIT about singles
What if Pokémon could do big damage with stab moves 🤔
considering how ursaluna regular was on the chopping block a little while back, it's unsurprising to me that ursaluna's big cousin that had better coverage and could fire off hyperbeams without recharge would get taken out
What if bear had a Big Button he could push
My Favorite pokemon is Excadrill, Doryuuzu is such a cool name that I never knew about
Its unsurprising to me that a special attacker with scrappy+keen eye and the second best special normal move behind boomburst would be so good
Just coming back to pokemon and this is an identical problem we have in Competitive EDH in magic. Some things are so good they coil around the meta and variety of gameplay and choke out creativity.
the neat thing about ursaluna BM being banned is that it's banned just as uubers is becoming a tier.
So it would definitely still be played.
Lunchtime Jimothy video? Yes please
And so begins the hunt for the five that voted don’t ban….
Bloodmoon ursa also can dominate doubles, which of course isnt as popular on smogon, but using throat spray hypervoice with a oranguru haz symyosis which will give its life orb to bm ursa after the throat spray is used and then youve got a +1 attack hypervoice hitting both opponets two times per turn due to oranguru using instruct.
Damn never tought Nightmare Fredbear was this powerful
Always great osts playing in the background
Dont play OU but im very surprised that something this slow was unanimously banned. Especially with common weaknesses
that's how you figure out the community devolved as a whole.
@@Nobody-su9km-someone who hasn’t played ou in months
does OU stand for "Our own Unique calculator"? Imagine playing a calculator emulator and still banning everything, pitfull honestly...@@Mingha0
It has Moonlight and is bulky as fuck. You are near guaranteed a KO once it gets in and you don't have to do much to get 3. If one Mon can basically take half another team by itself regardless of that other team then it deserves to get kicked upstairs.
@@andrejg4136
Yeah I clarified i dont play OU to clarify i dont have any opinions on it being banned, just surprised to see it. I only play random battles and past gens really
People are talking about blissey and how rose to counter bloodmoon, but also rose to counter manaphy
Game Freak is that same company that demote Gale Wings from full priority for Flying-moves to only when HP is full, because it was too powerfull. Talonflame was good, but Fire-Flying fears rocks. Now they think a Normal Type with a Ability to hit Ghosts, do not lose accuracy and ignore evasiveness would be fair and square.
Will you be doing a video on that new UUbers tier that's been made? It seems pretty interesting and would like to hear your take on it.
OU if people weren't bitchmade
Nuff said
I can’t find it or any mention of it online. And it’s not even on Showdown. Is it real?
@@GoldGuard yeah @chompy_YT did make a video with the guy behind it
@@zadarok359Thanks
Who would've thought that giving a pokemon a 140 BP signature move that hits everything for neutral damage is going to make it broken? They learn nothing from Mega Salamence Aerilate aren't they?
252+ SpA Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Ice Scales Frosmoth: 66-78 (23.4 - 27.6%) -- 81.5% chance to 4HKO
Suprise motherfu-
I just think of the poor VGC folk having to deal with this behemoth
At this point, it is low key a legendary pokemon already. It is just not officially named a legendary
A sun team ursaluna would be great since sunny day boosts and drought boost healing moves like synthesis moonlight and morning sun
Gen 9 competitive keeps setting new records lol, I don't think anything even needs to be said at this point lol
This is insane.
We need a move like how freeze acts in Arceus. Frostbite, same effect as Will-o-wisp but for Spatk. Would help in this situation (depending on how many Pkmn would get access to Frostbite).
I agree, but the problem is what you listed: Ice types. We know they are in a terrible place overall.
I'm actually surprised by this because I've never had much trouble getting rid of a Bloodmoon
Were you able to qualify for the vote?
@@motherlove8366 probably not but then again I never checked. Also, I'm not arguing whether or not it should've been banned I was just speaking from personal experience. It could've been the the players I've come across that used Bloodmoon were not good at utilizing it
Well yes, this might have been a quickban but I think it’s still better if we take our time with those bans. Walking Wake turned out to be pretty fine but back then everyone screamed for a quickban
Quickbans are pretty much only used on hilarious steamrollers like Chi-yu and Ogrepon-H. Do we need to play 1-2 months of it breaking whole teams over its knees?
@@andrejg4136Didnt it take a month for Chiyu to get banned? That thing damn near traumatized me 😢
It's like a reverse version of gen 2 snorlax
Chi-Yu swearing is one the best thing i ever seen
Oh dam*, u have bots now 🤦♂️
Darkrai should be tested in OU..I'm just curious to see how it'll fair in the new meta
I don't usually pay attention to banlists (or competitive in general for that matter), but I feel in cases like these that it would be better to try a smaller ban first, no? Like if Ursaluna couldn't run Blood Moon on its moveset in OU instead of being outright banned, that way you're able to test if the Mon as a whole is the problem, or only a specific component of it.
You think they would do it like they did with bascu and the grave dog but sht Im not a competitive player too so what do Ikr 🏳
If you just ban parts of a pokemon it's debatable if it's even the same pokemon anymore. By the logic of banning the move blood moon, you could ban darkrai from using nasty plot or iron bundle from freeze dry. Unless a move or ability is CLEARLY broken by itself, the pokemon is banned. There needs to be consistancy for this, or tiering does not work.