Big Nose Kate, more than Doc Holliday's woman
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Mary Katherine Horony, also known as 'Big Nose Kate,' was more than just a beautiful woman who was associated with some of the most dangerous men in the Wild West, including Doc Holliday. Her history deserves to be remembered.
This is original content based on research by The History Guy. Images in the Public Domain are carefully selected and provide illustration. As images of actual events are sometimes not available, images of similar objects and events are used for illustration.
All events are portrayed in historical context and for educational purposes. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Facebook: / thehistoryguyyt
Patreon: / thehistoryguy
The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered is the place to find short snippets of forgotten history from five to fifteen minutes long. If you like history too, this is the channel for you.
Subscribe for more forgotten history: / @thehistoryguychannel .
Awesome The History Guy merchandise is available at:
teespring.com/...
Script by HCW
#bignosekate #thehistoryguy #ushistory
![ผัวเถื่อน - ยูริ โตเกียวมิวสิค [ OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/P08ORRVDGl8/mqdefault.jpg)
I had a great aunt that lived to the ripe old age of 104. She was about seven years old when she and her family crossed the prairie in a covered wagon on their way out west. By the time she was 100 she had lived through the inventions of cars, telephones, electricity, and man landing on the moon. She was fortunate enough to have still maintained a very sharp mind and vivid memories of events throughout her life time until the very day she passed. She would sit us down and tell stories about crossing the prairie with her family and could remember vividly the details of the job need and would retell them so we'll it was mesmerizing to listen to. You could almost have been there with her the way she would describe the events. Wonderful woman. What an amazing span of life to have lived through and to have the mind to remember and appreciate all that she witnessed and experienced in the span of her lifetime!!
What a lovely lady.i would have loved to have meet her.its a shame that when our old people go thay take liveing through history with them.
How exciting..! To live such a long and amazing life..And, to have seen so many things come into fruition.. I wish i could say that I've lived some exciting times.. But, im afraid i wont have a whole lot of anything worth telling.. Oh, whoa is me..🤔
Both my grandparents lived to be 99 and 100 ..
Amazing story. Your great aunt’s life journey would be a wonderful book/movie. We have lost touch with the stories of everyday people who have seen so much in their lifetime
How interesting. My grandmother b1884 walked from Iowa as well. Her whole family came across the Oregon Trail in 1889. She told stories of learning how to weave baskets with the daughters of Chief Sealth on the Duwamish river south of Seattle.
Tombstone is my favorite western movie of all time and it has to be my hubby's, because we not only watched the DVD a million times but even when it's on TV we watch it. Doc is my favorite.
Fascinating that you cover these lesser-known people! As always, great video!
Kind of fills in the details, if not complete's some things we are all familiar with.
My great-uncle, Jack Ganzhorn, had few kind words for Doc nor for some of the Earp brothers either-as reported in his memorable book- “I’ve Killed. Men”. Uncle Jack claimed to have killed 40 or 42 men (he had lost count)., was there at the OK Corall on that epic day, and recounts numerous events-some involving lawmen being very lawless.well worth the read- if you can locate a copy.
House of History ,
By the way ! Kate was a very well known woman in her days. And very well known in History . Just that People who
Are incharge of the Dept. In Congress who decide what. They put in the history School
Books leave people out And
Change the truth. To fit their
Congress be agendas .whitch have been the Dems .Every
Sence the Beginning . Mostly
Any thing to do with Civil War
And Western times. Or the Bible Catholic Pope's keeping the truth about Jesus and Marry Magdalena. Outof the
Biblen and the teatchings in
Books . Because it's not in the Bibles all other denominations
Don't want to teatch it or even
Discuss the subject. Also History doesn't want any thing that dulls the light on the most Famous presidents like
George Washington . Or the Thomas Jefferson and Abe
Lincoln all slave owners. And had children with young slave
Girls. And the lies they teatch
About the American Indians . And freeing the Slaves Abes Lincoln's left lies.! Only ran as
Repub because there wasn't any other placement .All spots were filled.heart of a Dem. 🙏🔑🐎🐴👁️
@Siward Beorn to who
That is absolutely the best story of Kate, Doc, and the Earps I have ever heard. Well done. I love their style. Having lived a long time, 52 years since Vietnam, your tale rings true. Life is funny, a tragedy, and a story of heros and those less than heroic. After all, nobody gets out of life alive!
Dr. K
Robbie, thank you for your service. God bless
Yep, thats what i always say.. None of us are getting out of here alive..😉..
Doc holiday will always be Val Kilmer in my head!.
Yep.....and he played him well...
Liked his performance but he was about as far away from reality as it could be. Holiday was just an angry drunk with a deathwish who never was in the shape Val Kilmer was at the time. I find Dennis Quaid's performance much more accurate although less cool.
Ah’m your huckleberry.
@@mikeyoung9810 I liked them both, perhaps Killer a shade more. Regardless, I'd have to conclude, these two actors were more spot on than previous incarnations i.e., Kirk Douglas, Victor Mature...
Kilmer
I have been going to a bar called "Big Nose Kate's" for almost 20 years....I had no idea the story behind the name.
~Me, too!!!~Its my favorite bar in the world!!!~(even tho i quit alcohol)~☆~
@@kathyingram3061 one day at a time!
Where is it
Busted her man out of jail, what a gal.
@ Asmin Siza - Kate saved Doc's life more than once.
Viking - I’m neither, but if that’s your viewpoint about men, you’re one sorry sack of shit. Asshole!
Hahahahaha
@@arlandoamb6754 how many career choices do you think women had back then? Nanny, school teacher, saloon girl...
And there's the fact that a woman that was raped would be considered an outcast, often blamed for not being a virgin anymore.
At least Kate lived life without a man ruling her.
@Soleigh why is he nasty? She never apologized or denied being what she was. I wonder if all the hard working people, actually invested in that town, who's businesses she burned to "get her man" thought it was romantic as they picked through the ruins of their life as she rode away.
"There's no normal life, there's only life" Doc Holliday...Gonna have to remember and use that quote.
Gonna have to take it to heart and not feel like such an oddball.
That quote is very fitting for these times of uncertainty.
That’s 90% of the social unrest, no matter what side you ars on.
Not to bust your bubble, it's a great philosophy. However, there is no evidence that Holliday ever said that. Value Kilmer, an actor *portraying* him said it, from a script.
@@bcaye @Barbara Danley let me understand this. That wasn't the actual Doc Holliday in the movie? He was only being only being PORTRAYED by an actor? And one named Value Kilmer? Thank you so much for the necessary clarification.
One of my favorite love stories. A final possession found with Doc at the time of his death was a derringer, inscribed to Doc from Kate. 😢
I have recently discovered your videos. I am so happy I did. When I was young, several years ago, I hated history class. I worked for a veterinarian who was a bombardier in WWII, over Germany. Went on missions over the battle of Berlin. I use to be just taken by his stories. Then I found him straying off into other history. I found myself learning history from this great man. When I entered high school I was a history enthusiast. I watch you, and I find myself, back 45 years ago listening to him. I greatly appreciate you Mr. History guy. Thank you. I will look forward to all of your vids. I wish I had made my life about history. It breaks my heart to see history being torn asunder. It does no good for the future.
Wow I didn't realize Kate lived until 1940 and she never stop loving Doc
Thats a good woman
@@travisneighbors3691 not like today's ladies
@@michaelcapporta8222 cant even rent that kinda loyalty by the hour today...
@@travisneighbors3691 lol your right 😂
@David G. No way
It’s amazing she didn’t pick up tuberculosis herself, from Doc Holliday.
Must have just gotten lucky & had diamond genetics. Life can be random, like that.
More amazing that she never contracted Syphilis, considering the huge numbers she gave rides to, but then, there's no evidence she was disease free.
Best History Channel on TH-cam! I'm glad I caught one of your videos early! Don't ever stop making these!
I'm to fortunate to have been enlighting to history of deapth and importance well worth remembering, thankful for his matter of fact delivery.
"There is no NORMAL LIFE, only LIFE..." Doc Holliday. Thanks for helping to settle this country Doc.
It was already settled
@@thisislaflaretv5250
No. It wasn't.
Now zip it.
@@TheBatugan77 yes it was. Native Americans were already here.
"Sporting woman", what a great phrase!
Bordellos were frequently know as "Sporting Houses".
My favorite is horizontal experts :)
These days its called squirting women. 😂
Hookahs!
"Her intelligence is equal to my own".
High praise from a man.
😢😅😂🤣
At the time, this likely meant she was a genius and a sociopath, since only disregard for life was valued above wealth.
Very informative. I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you, History Guy.
I live in Prescott and just wanted to add that if you go to the Pioneer Cemetery she is buried under the name Mary Kate Cummings. It is a very simple grave with a flat tombstone.
And overlooks Walmart :)
Coincidentally, I happen to be in Dodge City, Kansas right now.😉
I used to live on Manor Dr. There.
Great Great Great....my retired history teacher mom and I have watched about 7 or 8 of your videos just tonight and We Loved them ALL!...Thank you Sir!
Wow. That must be amazing having a history teacher for a mother. I mean that sincerely, too; not sarcastically. That would be awesome!
Always brightens my day when I see a new episode. History does indeed deserve to be remembered...
The women of history are gaining much more recognition for their independent stories. This makes me happy.
🦉 Hoo cares? 🦉
The film, “The sons of Katie elder” had nothing to do with Big nose Kate. The film was based on the Marlow family of Oklahoma.
“Why Kate! You’re not wearing a bustle!”
Best Channel on TH-cam glad I found it
Bill Barry Agreed
@@homefront3162 the dude never editorializes or tries to push his Politics on you. That used to be the standard now it's the exception unfortunately.
@Bill Barry Your so right mate! The History guy just presents (Albeit in a masterful fashion!) his segments and leaves you, the viewer, to form your own opinions on the subject in question....and as you said, such a shame that what was once the standard has slipped down to being the exception....a sad sign of the sad times.
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly.
I agree! And The History Guy will definitely deserve to be remembered!!!
I love how he presents every historical story and has a knack at bringing it to life!
Kate lived to be at least ninety years old.
She was 91. She was born November 9, 1849.... She was a Scorpio... Makes sense.
I'm a first timer. Totally enjoyed your channel.
Thank you.
Doc had to turn to cards for his living due to his ever increasing bloody coughing fits which forced him out of the dental profession.
Doc became close friends with Wyatt after Doc seeing a young Dodge City law man surrounded by , as Wyatt would later say " a wild bunch of Texas men" when Wyatt attempted to enforce order.
Doc being a traditional Southern gentelman stepped into the hostile situation and Drew his weapon telling Wyatt he had his back.
The friendship grew strained after their flight from Cochise County which was a result of the vendetta ride against the Cowboy faction.
The reason the Earps we're not liked by many in Tombstone was because they were Yankees.
Southern Arizona was filled with ex Confederates who moved West to escape the living conditions of the South post Civil War years.
My wife and I managed a Guest ranch in Tombstone AZ where one of my favorite activities was telling stories of Cochise County history to our mostly European guest around a campfire.
I had a few videos made for the guest ranch which are still on TH-cam. 3 of them. Gunfight at the Apache Spirit Ranch, Escape from the ASR and Return to the ASR. They were for fun and advertising for the ranch.
Sergio and Natalia Spartacus beautiful
I really enjoyed reading your post. I was stationed at Ft. Huachuca from 87-90. I loved going to Tombstone and Bisbee. Do you know who the man was that had the rattle snake shack just outside of Tombstone? There use to be a ranch up on Miller canyon that would have huge cookouts. I can’t remember the name of the ranch, but whenever I was invited to go I always felt like I had be blessed with such an honor. I sorely miss Cochise County and southeast AZ. Such a beautiful place.
Richard C great story the fact the earps.were Yankees would have been a issue he'll it's a issue now in 2019
@@DM-jf3lg3031041#8282646+3...
Randy Vinson haha. After the civil war we ALL are Yankees. To the victor goes the spoils.
This is THE MOST amazing channel on this platform!
How can you NOT enjoy this guys History Lessons?
From the Wild West, through the Berlin Conference and the Great War, to domestic electric lights and the radio.
That’s one heck of a lifetime.
I also love history. I recently discovered your channel, your short clips are wonderful. You are 100% correct, these stories "deserve to be remembered". Thank you for helping to pass them along!
'Sporting woman': why not?
@Kevin O Sports are never necessarily clean.
maybe do a story on Josephine marcus that would be interesting
Do a story on Belle Star.
Ralph Reagan Yes , that would be a good one !
@@johnyoung468
Great story telling...
Belle's building that was a brothel in ponca City Oklahoma is up for sale
My grandfather traded horses with Belle Star when she traveled thru eastern Oklahoma.
Second. I would really like to see that.
She is buried in my home town of Prescott Arizona and was a resident at the Arizona pioneers home!
How about the story of the "Lost Colony" and Virginia Dare?
The information about "The Sons Of Katie Elder" was something I had never heard. Thanks!
Johnny Gray ,
Have you never seen the movie with John Wayne ? Sons of Katie Elder ! It's on aloft on the Grit T.V. Chanel! Goto see it ! Great movie Great acting! Tells how she died! Not natural way
She was Murdered for the family Land ! A Widower she became
! Her husband also murdered ! Same people killers! Got to see it ! I have watched it every time it has been on! Have to see it or rent it !
I’ve seen that movie many times but did not know it was referring to big nose Kate.
@@vernonpennington8896 I have seen the movie many times Vernon. I just never knew it was her being portrayed in this movie.
Same here. Gives you a different take on the movie.
Vernon I've watched Sons of Kate Elder about 20 times, along with all of Dukes movies. I miss him.
I loved the movie Sons of Katie Elder. I was just a young boy at the time I seen the movie. I cried at the end.
WOW!! I've never gave her a second thought when I saw the movie "Tombstone." But, upon watching this video about her, opened up my eyes about her. A fiesty woman who was LIGHT YEARS ahead of her time!!!
I was vaguely familiar with the "History" of Big Nose Kate.....of course I didn't realize just how vague I was until I saw this! I love the way you take a subject I think I know a little about and ever so calmly proceed to show me just how little I did know about it! What a fascinating life this woman led....particularly in her later years......and what a very appropriate quote on her life... "Part funny...part sad...such is life anyway you take it"....and indeed Mr History Guy.....One does wonder just what nic name would Kate have given Wyatt Earp?!
History majors seem to have access to information that just isnt available to the general public. That's why their books are usually so much better than that of an English major.
Thanks for answering the ages old question: Who was Katie Elder?
"Who you calling 'Big nose'? Big nose!"
I highly recommend you do a story on Squirrel Tooth Alice. Reputedly one of the most attractive sporting women of the old west. Turns out she was also extremely intelligent and a topnotch businesswoman. And when she finally settled down, she was a faithful wife for somewhere near 30 years. I'll even give you a teaser to look her up. She was not called Squirrel Tooth Alice because she had protruding buck teeth. Her story is really quite interesting. Thank you for what you do.
Thanks again, THG! Another great video.
"...they know ma name, didja hear that, they know ma name!!"
'Arkansas ' Dave Rudibaugh
-Young Guns 2
Great video! I didn't know much about her before this....she was quite the character. 👍❤️ Doc gutting a man over a card game...🤔and people think gamers killing each other over a video game is some new horror. People are pretty much the same in any era....Would your wife consider doing a whole series of videos on women from history? I just learned about a woman named Lozen. She was a powerful medicine woman who fought with Apache braves to the very end against the US army. Your wife did such a great job on that one video....just a thought...and a request. 🤗
Glad I found this, I love history.
The History Guy..thank you so very much for this great presentation. As always your fact filled stories are very enlightening and interesting as well! Happy New Year to you and yours...
@The History Guy
Can you cover Col. Charles Young of the Buffalo Soldiers plz Sir?? He was also a member of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity Inc.
Thank you!!!
Americans and their idiotic Fraternities ... For Frat Houses, read Rape Lodges...
Very interesting. Particularly the nickname. It’s always interesting and a bit sad to see people of the past had a greater sense of wit than those of the present. We have lost most of our sophistication.
I don't really think calling someone "big nose" qualifies as wit.
That’s actually the definition.
Wit. A clever, biting or ironic remark like addressing a large man as Little John. Calling someone big nosed who is always sticking their nose in other people’s business would clearly fall into that category.
@@michaelwood8071 I think he/she is being ironic.
"Oprahs FatAss" that is.
With a name like that...
I agree that we, as a society, seem to have lost our sophistication. Excellent observation.
5xd
I love history!!!! 🙌🏽😍
As an older man now, I am beginning to realize that American History was not properly taught to us, back in High School...the more personal lives of many well-known "heroes" was conveniently ignored!
curbozer couldn’t have said that any better. History class got me into lots of trouble from Jr./High School. I always spoke/wrote the real truth of history from facts. There is lots to be shared & rewritten.....
love Doc's last words. on being told his boots were off, he said That's funny.
Imagine the world of change she witnessed in her life. Went from a Europe to Arizona, saw a world without common use of electricity, become a world of air travel. Lived through the civil war, almost both world wars, lived in the same world with doc holiday, and Albert Einstein during separate eras and generations. Really incredible to think of what she must have witnessed. I wonder if any generation of humanity will ever witness a world of such incredible and drastic change with such massive leaps in technology like that again. Going from a phone to a smart phone isn't the same as going from horse and buggy to airplanes in the same lifetime.
The reason Wyat Earp achieved his fame was that he outlived everyone who could have called him a liar. . .
That alone speaks volumes as to the veracity of his accounts.
history is written by the winners.
... last man standing
Well, Big Nose Kate outlived Wyatt, if she died in 1940.
Virgil's wife Allie lived the longest of all of them.
Amazing how much they moved around when moving around wasn't as easy as it is today.
Trivia from a documentary I saw: that grave marker that is shown isn't actually where Doc Holliday is buried. When he died they couldn't get the hearse up the hill (it was winter) so they buried him somewhere in town with the intent to dig him back up and move him in the spring... but that never happened. So for all we know he could be in someone's back yard.
As I recall the documentary also said that she moved to Colorado with Doc Holliday and didn't move back to AZ until after his death.
JM S I was just at his grave yesterday. A sign says he is probably buried in potters field next to the cemetery. But I have also heard that since he died in Nov, the trip up (it was only 7/8 of a mile) was too difficult to get up to so he is probably buried in a someone’s yard.
Yes...
The Earps were all a family "cosa nostra" style...
starts a fire to break her man out of jail, now that is love and devotion.
History is such a very interesting subject
Thank you for sharing the stories of Big Nose Kate and Josie Earp. What of the rest of the Earp family and their time in Missouri? I live in Lebanon Mo and there is an Earp tombstone in our city cemetery but I haven't had time to look into the matter. Also would like to know more about Maddie Blalock.
There is no normal life, only life - how true 🤔 Never knew of this woman's fascinating life, thanks for the tale.
Love your channel. Subscribed.
Perhaps a story you might consider is that of my great aunt Georgia Lusk, the first woman NM sent to congress in 1947.
Exceptionally interesting. Thank you, I always found her one of the wests most interesting women.
It's such a drag that such an intelligent woman had to work as a prostitute. Admittedly she wasn't ashamed of this way of life,( why should she?) but to an intelligent woman it must have felt , at best tedious and at worst pretty degrading.
You're my favorite channel now on TH-cam. Love the Wild West and great hearing about a character we all know and yet know little about. Another "Wild West" video would be great one day. But all of your videos are great. Thank you for your work.
Will serve thank you so very much. Never knew that much about big nose Kate didn't even know she was buried in Arizona I wonder if we're allowed to go out and visit the graves? Well next time I give it to Prescott I will see if I can find it Butz flowers at a grave she is part of History, Arizona history.
Saw title - dropped everything.
Ditto!
@Ni999 You & Me both mate! As soon as the notification appears on a new History guy segment I am over at his channel like a shot....and never disappointed with the content or that unique delivery the man has.
@Ratko Mladic Hahaha!
Same! Might’ve spilled coffee.
Thanks for this. I get so annoyed when stories of Tombstone just call her a “prostitute” & leave it at that. I’ve been to her and Doc’s graves
I 💙love The History Guy Channel
appreciate your work.
If more history was taught like this the classes would be full... even bad history.... never forget the ugly or it will happen again
The knowledge you have is outstanding and way more than mine about the old west. My knowledge is amongst one of the best anywhere as well but you know details that I never learned so I do appreciate the videos you post. I will say I know 85% of everything you state so to me, this proves one can always learn more . Thank you kindly!
When I was in Tombstone a couple years back, I was told that she was nicknamed "Big Nose" because she couldn't keep her nose out of other people's business. Nonetheless, "Big Nose Kate's" Saloon does a pretty good business and is an interesting place to have a drink and a bite to eat.
I really enjoy reading,watching historical happenings ,
🐎Tku for the actual details of the lives of these people... Hollywood loves to sugar coat.
Good video. Of the photos of Doc, only the first, the young blond dentist, was Doc.
I read somewhere that the “father” in the foster family that took her in tried to rape her in the barn. Rather than bear the old man’s bastardized child, and invariably be ostracized by his wife and the surrounding community, she fled. She could see no future for herself there but suffering and pain.
History Guy, The world's oldest profession is gardner.
Prostitution was around when mankind was still in the hunter-gather phase before organized agriculture. Much older than gardening.
@@GaryGrumble depends on whose version of history you believe.
Charyl Liss so actual history v the bible eh.
@@sugarnads as I said "whose version of history you believe in. "💖
a sporting gardener with a heart of gold...
What a historical lady of old west history
Great story. Thanks, HG.
You know, Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend I just don't think I could bear it.
She sounds like she was an adventurer. Doc is buried here beside his Dad, his cousin went to Colorado and brought him home to Griffin Ga. They are in Oak Hill cemetery, buried beside family friends.
What a great piece of history. Thank you History Guy for bringing it back to life!!!
She looks different in nearly each photo.
Absolutely brilliant,thankyou from the UK.
some of this pictures show her a s a nice looking woman others show the opposite. One even had a big nose. We all morph but I wonder about the photos, i suppose other women could have said they were Big Nose.
these people had hard and degrading lives. I used to talk to my grandma, who lived to be 102 and came to Oklahoma from Texas in a covered wagon. because of her candid descriptions I was never able to buy into the romance of the old west. it was more likely you'd get a cold and die of pneumonia than have some great adventure.
So true. Hollywood made it look like everything it wasn't.
And for the poor in the US nothing has changed ...
@@annalieff-saxby568
Then leave.
@@TheBatugan77 I'm delighted to say that I was never there, save on holiday. I do have eyes, a brain, and the ability to read, so my opinion of poverty in the USA remains unchanged.
Interesting,,, lt makes sense about her nose now. In the 90s movie tombstone,, she has a weird looking nose tip! I thought it looked odd in the movie when i saw it and now this story sheds a bit of light on that.
Awesome and fantastic and outstanding.... just a great untold story till now
May be they called her Big Nose Kate was cause she always had her nose is other people's business......lol
Thank You .Great Story.
Awesome info. Is there a way you could slow down a bit? Can you talk a little slower so I can absorb all your wonderful information?
I've been a longtime history buff. I am especially interested in the West and the frontier era. This is the best info on BNK that I have seen! Also the photos of her and Doc Holiday were a real treat! . Thank You
A Virgil, a Morgan, a Wyatt and a Doc walk into a history bar...
Great video and shared and remembered history much so deserved for us to know.
👍👍HELO AJM JOHN ☆ DOC HOLLIDAY☆ FASTES GANS. SHERIFF☆ TEXAS☆ RANGERS😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 SUN.😊
Way better than public school!!!
I truly enjoy your channel. I wish you would get a show on the History Channel. 😊
Thank you so much for covering Katie and Doc!
I have been to Big Nose Kate's saloon, a very interesting place👌
Have you published any books or had any of your articles published? If so what and where.
Only out-of-date textbooks over which I wouldn't waste your time. This channel is where I publish.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel thank you