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Madame Vastra and her companions, investigate a Victorian murder. But where is the Doctor?
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"Hello, I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time, and this is my wife!"
And don't forget our cloned potato warrior friend from outer space!
Iconic
*ScReAmS iN vIcToRiAn*
Okay they played such a powerplay.
*screams in confusion*
A pair of interspecies, crime-fighting, married, Victorian lesbians and their Sontaran butler. I think I speak for all the fandom when I say
SPIN OFF! SPIN OFF! SPIN OFF!
Nothing wrong with interspecies romance and it worked for characters like Beast and Carly on X-Men TAS, Vinnie and Charlene on Biker Mice from Mars, Star Trek humans and aliens etc.
it's carriage-driving potato
Kerri Angel that way I’m saying they really should have their own tv series
They should have a spin off series of how they met and started their detective agency.
oh no, than strax wouldn't be a part of the crew yet! He only joined after a good man goes to war
Well, only on doctor who you can have an inter-species lesbian relationship with a pet potato...
+Sommerelb PET POTATO LMAO
+SunnieUrieCarlile
Adopted son, potato, same thing really.
I know that was not the point, but it hits so close to home in Steven Universe (Peridot, Lapis Lazuli and their pumpkin dog).
Then clearly we need more shows like Doctor Who
I dunno, anime can get pretty eccentric at times.
"A heartbreak is a burden to us all; pity the man with two" Genius line
Bea H ikr
Excuse my immaturity, but I happen to have been the 420th like on your comment. Have a good day.
I like that being lesbian was the bit that became too much for him. Lizard woman, sure, genetic clone warrior, why not? But a lesbian couple???? lol
+Pepâ la Pow I guess he understands that he's got a same sex couple in front of him and yeah, it is shocking to him. But he also doesn't realize what "genetic" means (biologically), since this part of science was unknown to people back then. So the explanation he is given doesn't really bother him.
king rap real I sure am, so what?
king rap real what? Why?
you know that lesbians are real people not a fetish some men have right? That it means that a woman who is not interested in men at all
well on the latter, do you want to be sting?!? lol
There should definitely be a spinoff show where Madame Vastra, Jenny and Stark solve crimes. Sherlock Holmes meets Doctor Who.
In the spin off, Stark The Potatoe Man is now Mrs. Hudson, I do believe!
Then go listen to The Big Finish Adventures Of Jago and Litefoot
Busy Nothing that would have been awesome
Busy Nothing STARK?
Stark is a completely different Sontaran. (SONTA-HA)
I think you mean STRAX.
@@infinitygames9317 Unless iron man's joining in!
(Joke)
How wonderfully Victorian.
Outer space alien clone? Alright
Ancient lizard woman? Sure
Two women in love? GOOD GOD XD
🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈LOVE🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Didn't he suggest something more than an interspecies relationship, but an interxeno one?
@Temp No I'm not. I'm just angry.
@@jamieolberding7731 why?
@@dim8art_579 cause he's an idiot it frustrates him
If these two are not a greatest idea for their own show in Doctor Who history, then I don't know what is! Come on BBC! They deserve their own series!
Mysterious reptile lady, her maid/lover sidekick, Victorian era, Sherlock Holmes-like detective motifs mixed with cup of sci-fi, katana slashing, and a tomato-man-living-nuclear-war-machine butler as a comic relief? BEST IDEA EVER
Correct me if I'm wrong, but
*spoiler alert*
didn't her maid/lover die in the 50th anniversary? Or maybe it was the Name of the Doctor..
Andrew Ford Nope. Jenny had her heart stopped by The Great Intelligence and clinically died in The Name of The Doctor episode (she wasn't even in the 50th anniversary), but then Strax reanimated her by defibrillation in the same episode ;)
*****
Yes, steampunk Torchwood!
You, sir, are brilliant.
Stick Captain Jack Harkness in there and you've got a winning collection of colorful characters. Just one special would be enough to rival _Avengers: Infinity War_ in entertainment value.
Love how in America, if someone makes a small religious comment, the country explodes.
Meanwhile, on BBC, they have a lizard woman who's married to another, and an omnisexual immortal American that later turns into a floating head and no one complains.
It isn't confirmed that captain Jack is the face of Bo
DoctorXCraft Actually it is. The end of the episode where Jack and meets Martha, after the Master escapes, he says they 'used to call me the face of Bo'. And both the doctor and Martha realize who he really is.
Nicola Glancey No, it wasn't
I know what you mean. If you have a lizard woman who's married to a Human woman, or an omnisexual immortal American who becomes a floating head and no one bats an eyelash. But if I say something about religion, well then everyone loses their minds!
DoctorXCraft
It is half way comfirmed, not oficially, but it is...--> 'However, Davies does not like making the relationship between Jack and Boe explicit, stating "the moment it became very true or very false, the joke dies".'
Jenny and Vastra are freaking ADORABLE together! :D Who knew that an interspecies, lesbian and Victorian couple could make such an impact on me and plenty of other people! :)And Strax is SO funny! XDMoffat: Spin-off. NOW! Along with one for Missy! :DAnd as for the investigator that was speaking with Vastra and Jenny... He took the news of Strax being a clone, Vastra being a lizard woman and in a relationship with a human woman rather well. :P
I believe he just thinks these three are crazy, and pretends to play along. Another reference to Sherlock Holmes, since it was shown many times in the books that Sherlock was a genius, but very, very, odd. One prime example was when he used Mrs. Hudson's heirloom teapot as a container for quick-drying cement he was inventing. Needless to say, Mrs. Hudson was furious. 😂
“Good evening. I’m a lizard woman from the dawn of time, and this is my wife.” Iconic. Madam Vastra is my favourite character
Back then two women in love was highly unheard of. Seeing that made the guy very, VERY, uncomfortable and they obviously enjoyed teasing him about it.
From what I've read it was more like one of those things that most people know about but don't really talk about. In the situation here the police officer would just think of it as being one of the eccentricities of the upper classes.
Which is why its never discussed much. Leave it alone and no one has issues
I would like to point out Queen Victoria actually refused to believe lesbians existed, so I would estimate that perhaps it wasn't a thing most people know about and don't talk about and more, some people know about and others completely refuse to believe it (because I mean OF COURSE women need men how on earth do you think they could manage without?! ;) )
Indeed. In fact the because Queen Victoria didn't believe a woman could ever love another woman, being a lesbian has never been illegal in the UK. Two men in love was, but never being a lesbian. Weird.
Actually many times women whom never married became "companions" and lived together until their death. Most people didnt know it, but those women were often in relationships with one another. This sort of partnership started cropping up in the late Victorian era.
And all the fandom yells: SPIN OFF PLEASE!!!
"Heartbreak is a burden to us all... pity the man with two."
Best. Line. Ever.
it's so cute how they call each other "my sweet" and "my love"
Geez, everybody get a room! They are so perfect, so sweet, so pure, my poor shipper heart is so happy to see those two together! I need to see more! Give them a spin off, or at least two or three episodes in season 10!
I would love to see Vastra and Jenny have a child. A clone of Vastra with some aspects of Jenny's DNA or find a lost Silurian egg and they raise the orphan reptile baby as their own child. Also, the child comes back from the future, now as an adult, tries to rescue it's mothers from a time traveling enemy who has gone back in time to kill them both.
see, you have half the first season written all ready.. brilliant :)
MrHorrorking13 they do have a child
his name is strax
Lewis Murphy GENIUS
Lewis Murphy goddamn lol
They already have a child. Strax.
Vastra: I made the most elementary of errors. *looks at Jenny lovingly*
Inspector: what, with the Turkish fellow?
Vastra and her team totally deserve a spin-off show. Do you hear me, BBC?!? Jack Harkness should be in it, too, for some more interspecies non-hetero stuff.
TheYacu Who exactly do you want him to be non-hetero with? The potato?
Sure, the potato!
Sadly, there are those who consider DW to be a medium for its writers to push non-traditional gender roles on the public in an 'SJW' plot, and they can't stand these characters for that reason. For some reason many TH-cam critics also hate them, and many of their fans blindly go along with it, which is a shame as I've always found them to be very funny and interesting.
Given Jack is canon bisexual and the actor is gay. I really want to see that happen. An LGBT spin off series
@@MadScientist512 cry me a river
This would be the best TV show ever!
The Great Detective or The Black Veil or something.
The Sherlock-like show with a sci-fi twist!
damn, these 3 need their own show!
Hey, Sarah Jane got one, Torchwood got one, I think it'd be entertaining at least.
"Jenny was a match girl when she first encountered Madame Vastra. She was being molested by a Chinese gang called the Tongs, from whom Vastra saved her." - The Brilliant Book 2012
Amy and Rory were the closest friends the Doctor has had this regeneration and they're also the parents of his wife. Imagine losing two family members you love very much in the same day. It will take something very special indeed to get him back to being heroic again. That is going to be the new companion's biggest challenge in the Christmas episode.
These 3 need a series! And Matt needs to show up in an episode!
"And Matt needs to show up in an episode!"
That must have made you really happy when it actually happened. :)
SIGN ME UP FOR THIS
Throw in Jack Harkness too
My OTP!!!!!
Its time for a Vastra/Jenny Spinoff.
Exactly! Finally, somebody who understands. The job of a Doctor Who writer is to change the show so dramatically every time there's a new era, you can barely recognize the style, that's what makes it appeal to so many different viewers. And people complain that Moffat changes things about the universe too much, well, welcome to the world of Doctor Who! I agree with you completely.
I love the mans reactions, especially at the end.
My thought is that Amy and Rory finally pushed him over an edge he's been approaching for a long time. It wasn't that he loved them more than any previous companion, but the weight of all those he lost sent him over the brink when you dropped Amy and Rory on top. It was the sum of the loss of all his companions, Katarin and Adric, Rose, Donna, etc., that piled up inside him so much that he finally gave up.
this is clearly Johnlock Crossworlds fem Au except its Official! Cool!
Vastra, Jenny and Strax - are great together! I wish of spin-off series about them!)))
Amy and Rory were very special to him, as all of his companions are, but since Katarina and Adric, he's lost so many others whom he loved. After a while, it begins to build up. He might blame himself for their deaths. He always felt the most responsible for Amy's life and would do whatever it takes to save her. He's probably afraid of moving on. He will never find anyone quite like Amy & Rory, and if he does find someone, he doesn't want to lose them too. That's just what I think, anyway.
Indeed. And nothing is more adorable than Jenny's little smile after Vastra says it. Aside from Jenny's "yes, me'darlin'" in this video. :-D
Apparently, in Victorian times... it's not the writer being offensive, he's making a joke about stereotypes being completely wrong and victorians jumping to conclusions....
Moffat admitted she was a last-minute addition and took all Jack's lines when the Doctor needed exposition in that story, but i enjoy the extra stuff and personality they gave her in that story and since.
Pity the man with two...
Hahaha I love them they need make a spin off of them!!!!
Doctor falls in love with human girl and is separated by the void from her with the fact that she probably will unhappily live the rest of her life thinking about him, alone (at the time)- immediately finds new companion and happily hops around saving worlds.
Doctor loses a couple of very close friends but knows that they will happily live the rest of their lives together in New York and that they already are comfortable with living domestically and they have each other love- refuses to take new companions or save anyone, and bitterly lives on a cloud in his box above humanity, letting them solve their own problems
Makes sense.
Ohhhh Moffat
Saberilla I assumed it was just one loss too many by that point. The Doctor went pretty dark after losing Rose. Donna randomly showing up in his ship is the only thing (I believe at least) that kept him from isolating himself completely (even Donna comments on how much worse off he was when she first met him as opposed to later). Because of her, he continued to help people and then found Martha and then Donna again and then finally Rose for the last time. Knowing she was happy when he finally left her allowed him to continue on, even though he refused to take another companion (and even went on a bit of downward spiral). Then he faced death only to regenerate, because even at his lowest he couldn't let himself die, only to run into Amy and the crack in time, which gave him a reason to keep going. When he lost Amy and Rory, it was all too much. He was done.
It wasn't that their loss was worse, it was just the final straw.
Sandy White Very well said. *applauds*
+Sandy White Can't forget about River, I'm assuming they had their last picnic prior to the snowmen, that or in series 9, but I highly doubt that due to River's lines in the library episode, and the Doctor's lines in the name of the Doctor.
+Gear Head and the singing Towers of Derillium already happend for the elventh Doctor (Special Episode) so that's true and adds to his sadness
+Lizzy Summers - we're going to have to revisit that little piece of sequencing now. :-)
Yes, all 3 were first introduced in the series 6 episode A Good Man Goes To War, Strax originally came from a different place to Jenny and Vastra but after their first appearance and their second appearance which was the snowmen which this is the prequel to, Strax decided to join Vastra and Jenny in Victorian London
I like her personality. She's fun and witty. She'll probably be one of the best since Donna. :)
This is basically Sherlock and John. Johnlock is so canon
+JellyLovesFaith It really isn't, just a delightfully crazy fandom :')
Holly Travers It really is if you read into the subtext of the show. Which Moffat and Gatiss encourage their audience to do :)
+Holly Travers It's practically confirmed that Vastra and Jenny are the in-universe inspiration for Sherlock and Watson.
+Andrew Fish (Werdnae) Who was Strax the inspiration for? Mrs Hudson?
Kaagh178 Mark Gatiss confirmed that in his opinion, Jenny and Vastra are the female equivalent of John and Sherlock in the Victorian times. That's a very blatant hint that Johnlock is about to be canon, considering that Jenny and Vastra are married and continue to solve crimes like bamfs.
(He said it in the 'Women of Sherlock' Radio Times Festival Talk which was covered by the BBC's offical Sherlock twitter account : twitter.com/sherlock221b/status/648176029031342080)
Amy and Rory were his family. He lost his first family in the Time War. With Amy and Rory they were his second family.
It's basically like losing your family all over again. And I think that's what did him in, not just all those who died and were lost/forgotten while traveling with him.
It’s 2018 and we still want a spin-off. GIVE IT TO US!!
2021. Still waiting
2023. Still waiting.
@@spaceman6215Waiting in 2021 for 2019 is not how time works.
@@jacoba67472023 even less so.
So, I've heard Vastra's origin mentioned in a few episodes but I've never seen it. Did I miss an episode somewhere? Is it another minisode? Or did it just happen "off screen"?
Its off screen.
She was made up for A Good Man Goes to War, along with Strax and Jenny, and then continued to appear later, but was never mentioned before then.
still wish they got a spinoff of their own. Would have been a lot of fun and could have filled the void during the offseason of Who.
"quite some distance from the truth one imagine"
ooh burn
give them there own show.
'Hello I'm the lizard from the dawn of time and this is my wife.'
LOL best line ever!
"quite some distance from a clue one imagines"
Oooh burn man I love madame vestra
I hope they do a story on how Jenny fell in love with Madame Vastra. It must be quite a story, because any other human would turn on their heel and runaway screaming if they saw Vastra!!!
0:45 That burn though.
One can only take so much. The breaking point isn't always reached in the some of the moments like that.
VASTRA AND JENNY! They definitely deserve a spin off, though I'm not sure my shipper heart could take it..
moffat could you be more subtle?
They are so cute!!!!
I think it was way too much for him to take. :)
I love the line "Where would Scotland Yard be without you?"
Vastra: "Quite some distance from a clue, I would imagine."
i came here to looking for tracer voice from overwatch :|
+Yogi Trisna Ye, me too :v
+Yogi Trisna I still can't hear its her or not
England, Mexico, Canada, and several states in America. Personally I really enjoyed getting to see England, especially Stonehenge. It was super cool!
Each incarnation of the Doctor is a distinct personality. Maybe the 11th version is far more affected by the loss of companions than the 4th.
I was accidentally woken by an extension of the London undergrund. Jubilee I think?
Poor guy. Never watched Doctor Who before.
Lol, Jenny is such a Watson."THE CLOUDS""What about them?"Oh for God's sake Jenny, do you have eyes?!
That idea was mentioned by Moffat but he claimed to already have his hands full with Doctor Who and his other projects. Instead he put them into this Christmas special, hopefully we either get the cool spin-off that we want or they make a lot more appearances in future Doctor Who episodes.
are you telling me ANOTHER ship burnt up in the atmosphere?!?!
you'd think it'd be space ship grave yard
Another brilliant line:
Strax: Here's the plan; we electrocute him until his brain melts then interrogate him.
(Vastra and Jenny look at him in displeasure)
Strax: Other way round.
With every culture, there are certain outliers. On top of that, the doctor's left plenty of people in a different time or planet than they came from. I think it kind of does go together.
hope that this is better than the last christmas special!
I'd reccomend starting at either Season 1 Episode 1 - Rose, or Season 5 Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour, those are the only two points in the rebooted series where both the Doctor and his compannion are both new. Or of course, you could start watching from The Snowmen at Christmas, there's a new companion in this, all you really need to know is that the Doctor is sad over his old companions leaving.
Is there any better time to mope than in Elizabethan era london?
Yes, moping in Elizabethan era London while reading Dickens!
That guy looked more shocked that she was gay, then that she was a lizard.
he handled it well...
The Doctor was much younger then, had much more hope. Amy was the first person he met in this regeneration so in a way he grew up with her. He's much older now and kind of getting tired of loosing people, he wants to stop.
You didn't see that one coming? But she was already in A Good Man Goes to War, and they showcased the relationship a little bit in that episode...
Jenny calling Vastra "darling". Love.
They need a show! Come on Mofatt make it happen!
Those two seriously remind me of my girlfriend and I 😂😂😂
Not today Satan, Not today Honestly you should be proud of that! XD
Could Strax be in it? I love him, and it would be wonderful if all them of them become true companions.
“Heartbreak is a burden to us all, pity the man with two”
Oh wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for the heads up! :)
do these two ever have an episode where they are formally introduced? because it seemed like they just sort of popped up in season 7... or did i miss something? i do love them, though!
'One of these days it'll snow real snow'.
Give her and her wife their own spin-off show. Now!
NEVER with the Turkish fellow.
Aysemin Savaş
I honestly don't get that joke either. Sorry. :/
Maybe a reference to the little Muck?
Those two are just trolls.
*XD*
***** THEY INVENTED TROLLING
"Funny looking fellow... Turkish is he?"
>:(
THEY MAKE MY HEART WARM
I wonder if the BBC ever considered a Vastra spinoff
"Oh Lord" this guy is a perfection explanation of every doctor who episode ....
the doctors feels are all over the place right now, even the timelord has feels. Hopefully his new companion can give him the kick he needs. The way Matt portrays the 11th doctor is fantastic he looks young but plays him like the age he really is.
Some scenes on TV you see and just know their so good that nothing you say can do them justice
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ditto
...the departure of the most meaningless companion the Doctor ever got.
A spin of show would be great!!
the mans face when he discovered they were an interspieces lesbian couple was priceless
One of the best lines in Doctor Who history: "Good evening, I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time, and this is my wife." XD
there should eventually be a crossover of doctor who, and sherlock, cause it would be pretty funny to see how sherlock reacts to the doctor's life, and how the doctor reacts to sherlock's, inhumane perception abilities
1. She probably just did it to snap him out of his misery 2. One kiss doesn't mean she's in love with him and 3. Yeah, like you never kissed your parents on the lips.
Well that's one way to make people confused about everything and start questioning the universe...
Tho, time travel in itself is very confusing to the first place.
All those possible changes that could occur in history...
If you dislike these clips so much why do you seek them out and comment on them? Also in all fairness Moffat hasn't written a lot of the episodes from this series as he was involved in Sherlock.
Watching this at 5:15 exactly 1 week untill it airs in the UK