Thank you! I tried hitting all my bullet points and keeping my wording minimal. I also went in and edited much of the empty audio spaces between sentences so I can deliver my message faster :)
I don't own the prowler, but I love the talon and all tevarin designs. Nice to see some people still care about the ship. Also, kinda surprised that you have under 200 subs, considering the quality of these videos.
Id say an ok video. Really good for being new to TH-cam. Its my favorite ship based on its looks, was a while since i flew it though. there is answered to many of the questions you are asking here about the boarding if you look around some, SC wiki or so have sources from the concept sale including a brochure and 2 q&a posts i think, of course things like that might change. the side ladder is for pilots the back door for people to enter and exit and the doors on the sides is for shooting out of and exit from. Dont know how the inventory of the ship is now, though the lack of armory is because you will be able to sit fully armed in the drop seats, and you wont be able to do that in normal seats in the future, have heard that prowler seats will be the only one that allow heavy armor and back pack in the seat, though that is hear say, as its weird if your not allowed heavy armor in the other drop seats, backpacks might be a thing though as in other ships you sit down, and in this you are basically hanging in the crouch. the stealth and armor will hopefully come soon, and hopefully its specialized shield that is directional, as well as its specialized decoy flares. Think there where talk about some tether that will help you transferring soldiers to a ship that you are boarding, but I digress there is a lot of info about the ship given by CIG about it, if those things still stand we dont know, but for its price it needs to be more then a hover tank that can fly, and the prowler is only a third of what was promised in the concept sale at the moment. when turning the ship use yaw and rotate in to the curve instead, and apply some strafe up instead of just pivoting from side to side, it worked before at least dont know if it does anymore though. good video though and hope the ship gets some love soon.
I'm still a fan because they absolutely nailed the look of the tevarin on the first try. This ship has so much potential. Your right that the prowler is 1/3 of the way finished and I can't wait for the day it's fully implemented. Still crossing my fingers that we get an update on this ship soon
@@fourfoxgaming yae it feels a bit forgotten, especially as they dident implement the gravitational hover when they added it to the hover bikes. But they have added in so its mat black again and not white like it was for a few patches. Wouldn't get my hopes up, as its not in SQ42 and that is the priority now, but would be a good edition for alien weak i guess, and easier then a new ship.
Nice, as always - and keeps the prowler turret issue (which I think is really one of it's main problems) in the forefront. Some good comments about the interior layout too, hopefully the gold pass does address some of this. I doubt it'll change it price too much, as they do seem to want to keep the alien ships rare - but inevitably it will regain (or increase) it's function when stealth is relooked at, plus the gravlev stuff at least.
Yes! The prowlers turret is long overdue. Had to make sure that everyone was made aware of this issue and provided the link to the issue council. Also I wish we can have some temporary fix to stealth
I just upgraded to a prowler because I wanted a ship that functioned a lot like the gunships from the supreme commander series and this ship just screamed to me. It can be used for troop deployment but its compliment of strong firepower and it literally looking like a gunship just ate at me. I wasn't planning on purchasing anything and then I was told about this ship.
Yes the firepower is such a big factor for why I purchased this ship. It's a nice ship to bring when your org is doing bounties, your teammates will be relying on you to help end engagements
To counter the armory bit. It's mean't for surgical insertion of troops so they won't really be needing to change as they would be in armor anyways the gun racks makes sense since you can't have them on your back (reasonably) when you're sitting like that.
Well the space for the weapons that they have now is being used extremely efficiently. But my hope is that when they do a gold pass on the prowler, they can accommodate a personal storage area for ammunitions and load out changes
For a ship that was used so widely & extensively for so long there should be a lot of variations of the Esperia Prowler! I LOVE this ship (my favourate ship in the game) and it is such as a great base frame for variants that I don't understand why there isn't more types. For example: you could have Prowler types where the drop seating was removed for bounty-hunting prisoner cells, or info-running computer banks, or just open for caring cargo boxes/ bikes or the option to upgrade to a gunship with a door-gunner weapon mount at each other air-shield. But you could take it even further with variants that have missile pods that rotate out where the deployment portals are as a stealth missile-boat, or have one side with a fold down breaching-collar for boarding missions, or one where the 'cargo area' was taken up by a EMP generator or scanner array, or all sorts of things; like a Prowler crane variant for lifting of cargo crates or small vehicles.. The point is that's its such a great ship at such a great size that it could be so much more! There is so much promise & potential with this ship but I fear that it will only ever be a 'one-trick pony' dismissed by the dev's into obscurity.
This! Yesss! The belly of this ship is an easy swappable area! I hope that when they do get to the point of drafting a new variant. That they keep stealth objectives in mind. Personally, I would love to see a titan suit drop ship variant.
its a crane variant (a Prowler version of the Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane helicopter) that would get me especially excited! Transporting ground vehicles or fuel tanks, cargo crates, mechs, prefab buildings, wrecks or more while in a sheathed, defensible aircraft. OMG! imagine delivering Nova Tonks behind enemy lines! I'd love it if you could do a video of possible futures of the Prowler, with such things like Prowler variants. (along with core features & ship weaknesses to keep)
Nice video! I really like the Prowler, but it's real-money price is just a little too much for me given that I rarely play with more than 5 at a time. However, I will pick it up with in-game auec. :) I have the same general feeling about the Valkyrie - love the look and I do like the cargo area for vehicles and SCU boxes, but my memory is that it handles a little sluggishly in atmo and it's a little pricey.
It's also a great ship for running solo missions. It really helps in fleets because you bring heavy weapons into the fight. If you ever want to borrow mine I wont mind
Incredible. Now I need to go check if the size of the heavy armor will give me any issues walking out the deployment doors lol. I'd hate to get stuck. I'm usually in my flight suit
Grenade launchers are a perfect weapon to shoot out of the side with. Currently, the red door ways are only visual. But it does draw the boundaries of in/out vehicle atmosphere. It doesn't not act as a shield
I am quite new (2 months maybe) and i always wanted to buy The Prowler but most people i spoke to about it would not recomend it at the moment.... Maybe one day! I ended up buying Valkyrie and I love the way it handles
The Valkyrie is the most iconic dropship for star citizen and the most ideal. I think of it as a bigger cutlass and is very accommodating. The roll of the prowler is very niche and so is the audience buying it.
Sadly, I was not a fan of the prowler when it first came out and was not on my radar till a few months after it's release. I've heard mythical things about what the prowler was able to accomplish during it's initial release.
Thanks for this. As a primary Prowler owner, I've been a little confused about the Prowler's stealth function as it's still detectable at approx. over 5000 range and doesn't seem all that "stealthy". I was curious if the S4 gimbals could be swapped out for fixed S5 and I guess they can if you can fit AD58s. A shame those are only on the Redeemer. And you think one day, those won't be transferable? The ships gravlevs don't really work either right? They don't function like the gravlev vehicles do. I didn't know about the turret bug, so that's good to know.
the #1 I want for CIG to make a difference in these ships is the removal of the Grav Lev engines because it's useless AF! What used to have a Grav Lev Engines if it can't actually levitate without folding its wings to land? I mean there are 3 Hover Bikes in this game now namely Dragonfly, Nox, Hoverquad, and future X1 from Origin which is stated to be the bike that can be stored on the 300i Bike Hanger on the front.
Yeah I agree, the grave lev is a nice concept, but I would rather do a fly by over a landingzone and drop troops off mid air. When it comes to capital boarding, I'd rather the troops use a type of hooking device like a reverse grav gun
This is what I did, I had so much hope for the vanguard series but ultimately, those 4 size 2 weapons on the vanguard had me switch to the prowler. It's a great ship for solo. Top tier bounty mission grinder
@@fourfoxgaming Thanks for the confirmation! I wound up CCU'ing over last night and ran a mission this morning. While vulnerable to the smaller craft it indeed slays with the larger ships!
@@fourfoxgaming Yeah bud, will join up in a bit, always fun to fly with other Prowler pilots! (My old Prowler got converted to a Hull E, so I just put the ol' girl back in the hangar!)
As soon as I saw this ship I decided to myself im going to get it, Not much of a PvP pilot however the idea of dropships for ground makes me happy. I'll either buy it during alien week or in game. Question though, when is alien week?
Alien Week should be this month. But i would buy the prowler only ingame. For its price tag its very limited. How it's said in the vid, it's in price range of the 600i. Which is far more versatile. There are better ships for less $/€ to buy. Ingame with aUEC it has an ok price.
This ship really expands the imagination when it comes to fps scenarios for both ground and space combat. But $440 is Abit crazy. Through ccu chains, I was able to acquire mine for $240
I still own my Prowler it was awesome when it first came out but got nerfed due to complaints. Ship handling has NO logic right now they are just tweaking things to appease the whiners in spectrum.
Have been flying the prowler since it came out, and I have a couple of things to add: the prowler has NO flares or noise, making it horrible for pvp as someone can bombard you with missiles easily, and the same goes for PvE to a lower extent. You can vault up the side hatches for the drop crew, making ladders not needed there. The prowler has a lot of bugs, and is not the best ship to fly, but god damn does it sound good. Between the drop ship hatches not being able to close once opened, the remote turret issues mentioned, and issues with it’s power consumption, it is really due for a pass. However, I have to ask about your intentions behind the interior rework. As it stands, where in gods name would you put this armoury you speak of? The prowler is VERY starved for space, and can barely fit the most basic amnesties. Even if you removed the ladder for entry, I don’t believe there would be enough space to add new things into this dropship. It could definitely use some interactable light switches like the MSR has though, I love the mood lighting when the ship is powered down. Other than those couple of things, great video! I hope to see more on your prowler, as it’s one of my favourite ships to talk about due to its design.
Oh boy do I have a bomb shell for yo homie. Go to the other pilot seat, you've been flying it from the co-pilot seat this whole time. The other seat does indeed have flares and noise!
Yeah I haven't had any issues with my flairs. In the case for the armory, small storage units like the c2 pilots pistol drawer would be a great welcomed addition to the prowler.
the Prowler like many of the other ships are "Prop" ships for a scene of Squadron 42 the single player campaign and have 0 functionality in the game at the moment and for the foreseeable future. As long as they continue to push the single player as a priority the multiplayer will be stuck where it is.they just push these ships out so we can help them finance their movie game.
Dammit hahaha I just got the prowler and been using it the last 2 days, and actually spent 350K on Stealth upgrades hahaha I should have invested in Mili A grade... And I was also confused about the claimed manned turret because I fly solo but sometimes I see the enter remote turret prompt and sometimes not and it's just strange. The back gate is very badly designed for interactions, and aside from the awesome esthetics, it's really not a very good ship. I have more success with my mili upgraded Andromeda solo than the "stealthy" prowler...
Yeah I did the bounty mission grind and was Abit disappointed when I got the whole grade A stealth kit. You can enter the remote turret perfectly fine when your flying solo, it's just when you have a copilot when it starts acting funny.
You got it all wrong dude first of all the prowler is way to big to be a stealth ship. second you dont even neeed a turret man on the prowler since turret are slaved to pilot.
Thanks for the update love the ship and hope it will get its time to shine one day!
Fingers crossed 🤞
Great update, thank you.
Thanks :) I just thought it was important to let users know what your currently buying
Nice video length, keep at it :)
Thank you! I tried hitting all my bullet points and keeping my wording minimal. I also went in and edited much of the empty audio spaces between sentences so I can deliver my message faster :)
I'll sub for prowler content. It's nice to know someone else flies it!
Yeah I wont be leaving it any time soon. My prowler is defiantly my “just fly what you like” ship.
I don't own the prowler, but I love the talon and all tevarin designs. Nice to see some people still care about the ship.
Also, kinda surprised that you have under 200 subs, considering the quality of these videos.
I'm a connoisseur of tevarin designs as well 🧐🧐🧐
Id say an ok video. Really good for being new to TH-cam. Its my favorite ship based on its looks, was a while since i flew it though. there is answered to many of the questions you are asking here about the boarding if you look around some, SC wiki or so have sources from the concept sale including a brochure and 2 q&a posts i think, of course things like that might change. the side ladder is for pilots the back door for people to enter and exit and the doors on the sides is for shooting out of and exit from. Dont know how the inventory of the ship is now, though the lack of armory is because you will be able to sit fully armed in the drop seats, and you wont be able to do that in normal seats in the future, have heard that prowler seats will be the only one that allow heavy armor and back pack in the seat, though that is hear say, as its weird if your not allowed heavy armor in the other drop seats, backpacks might be a thing though as in other ships you sit down, and in this you are basically hanging in the crouch. the stealth and armor will hopefully come soon, and hopefully its specialized shield that is directional, as well as its specialized decoy flares. Think there where talk about some tether that will help you transferring soldiers to a ship that you are boarding, but I digress there is a lot of info about the ship given by CIG about it, if those things still stand we dont know, but for its price it needs to be more then a hover tank that can fly, and the prowler is only a third of what was promised in the concept sale at the moment. when turning the ship use yaw and rotate in to the curve instead, and apply some strafe up instead of just pivoting from side to side, it worked before at least dont know if it does anymore though. good video though and hope the ship gets some love soon.
I'm still a fan because they absolutely nailed the look of the tevarin on the first try. This ship has so much potential. Your right that the prowler is 1/3 of the way finished and I can't wait for the day it's fully implemented. Still crossing my fingers that we get an update on this ship soon
@@fourfoxgaming yae it feels a bit forgotten, especially as they dident implement the gravitational hover when they added it to the hover bikes. But they have added in so its mat black again and not white like it was for a few patches. Wouldn't get my hopes up, as its not in SQ42 and that is the priority now, but would be a good edition for alien weak i guess, and easier then a new ship.
Nice, as always - and keeps the prowler turret issue (which I think is really one of it's main problems) in the forefront. Some good comments about the interior layout too, hopefully the gold pass does address some of this.
I doubt it'll change it price too much, as they do seem to want to keep the alien ships rare - but inevitably it will regain (or increase) it's function when stealth is relooked at, plus the gravlev stuff at least.
Yes! The prowlers turret is long overdue. Had to make sure that everyone was made aware of this issue and provided the link to the issue council. Also I wish we can have some temporary fix to stealth
I just upgraded to a prowler because I wanted a ship that functioned a lot like the gunships from the supreme commander series and this ship just screamed to me. It can be used for troop deployment but its compliment of strong firepower and it literally looking like a gunship just ate at me. I wasn't planning on purchasing anything and then I was told about this ship.
Yes the firepower is such a big factor for why I purchased this ship. It's a nice ship to bring when your org is doing bounties, your teammates will be relying on you to help end engagements
I recently upgraded my Prowler to a Merchantman. I could not resist this.
The prowler is currently the biggest alien ship in game... But not for long. Congrats on the BMM!
@@fourfoxgaming Thank you
To counter the armory bit. It's mean't for surgical insertion of troops so they won't really be needing to change as they would be in armor anyways the gun racks makes sense since you can't have them on your back (reasonably) when you're sitting like that.
Well the space for the weapons that they have now is being used extremely efficiently. But my hope is that when they do a gold pass on the prowler, they can accommodate a personal storage area for ammunitions and load out changes
For a ship that was used so widely & extensively for so long there should be a lot of variations of the Esperia Prowler!
I LOVE this ship (my favourate ship in the game) and it is such as a great base frame for variants that I don't understand why there isn't more types.
For example: you could have Prowler types where the drop seating was removed for bounty-hunting prisoner cells, or info-running computer banks, or just open for caring cargo boxes/ bikes or the option to upgrade to a gunship with a door-gunner weapon mount at each other air-shield.
But you could take it even further with variants that have missile pods that rotate out where the deployment portals are as a stealth missile-boat, or have one side with a fold down breaching-collar for boarding missions, or one where the 'cargo area' was taken up by a EMP generator or scanner array, or all sorts of things; like a Prowler crane variant for lifting of cargo crates or small vehicles..
The point is that's its such a great ship at such a great size that it could be so much more!
There is so much promise & potential with this ship but I fear that it will only ever be a 'one-trick pony' dismissed by the dev's into obscurity.
This! Yesss! The belly of this ship is an easy swappable area! I hope that when they do get to the point of drafting a new variant. That they keep stealth objectives in mind. Personally, I would love to see a titan suit drop ship variant.
its a crane variant (a Prowler version of the Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane helicopter) that would get me especially excited!
Transporting ground vehicles or fuel tanks, cargo crates, mechs, prefab buildings, wrecks or more while in a sheathed, defensible aircraft.
OMG! imagine delivering Nova Tonks behind enemy lines!
I'd love it if you could do a video of possible futures of the Prowler, with such things like Prowler variants. (along with core features & ship weaknesses to keep)
Nice video! I really like the Prowler, but it's real-money price is just a little too much for me given that I rarely play with more than 5 at a time. However, I will pick it up with in-game auec. :) I have the same general feeling about the Valkyrie - love the look and I do like the cargo area for vehicles and SCU boxes, but my memory is that it handles a little sluggishly in atmo and it's a little pricey.
It's also a great ship for running solo missions. It really helps in fleets because you bring heavy weapons into the fight. If you ever want to borrow mine I wont mind
informative, dope
Thank you!
I can not find it anywhere but I swear I had once read that the prowler drop seats are the only ones to allow for the wear if heavy armor.
I have not heard that one before but it would make sense. As far as I know the prowler has the only stand up style seats
Prowler and spartan are the two vehicles so far that will allow heavy armor seating
@@gnaruto7769 yep. I asked the info guys yesterday.
@@fourfoxgaming the inforrunners confirmed it's the prowler and the spartan that have drop seats that allow heavy armor.
Incredible. Now I need to go check if the size of the heavy armor will give me any issues walking out the deployment doors lol. I'd hate to get stuck. I'm usually in my flight suit
how is the lights at night on that thing? does it light up its landing area at all?
The blade literally has no lights right now lol. But all the rest do an ok job. But not flood light quality
So I know you can shoot out of the prowler through the red doorways but the enemies cannot shoot in. Can you have a squad with rockets shooting out?
Grenade launchers are a perfect weapon to shoot out of the side with. Currently, the red door ways are only visual. But it does draw the boundaries of in/out vehicle atmosphere. It doesn't not act as a shield
I am quite new (2 months maybe) and i always wanted to buy The Prowler but most people i spoke to about it would not recomend it at the moment.... Maybe one day! I ended up buying Valkyrie and I love the way it handles
The Valkyrie is the most iconic dropship for star citizen and the most ideal. I think of it as a bigger cutlass and is very accommodating. The roll of the prowler is very niche and so is the audience buying it.
Prowler was so good upon release - felt like the ship should be in flight and firepower.
Sadly, I was not a fan of the prowler when it first came out and was not on my radar till a few months after it's release. I've heard mythical things about what the prowler was able to accomplish during it's initial release.
Thanks for this.
As a primary Prowler owner, I've been a little confused about the Prowler's stealth function as it's still detectable at approx. over 5000 range and doesn't seem all that "stealthy".
I was curious if the S4 gimbals could be swapped out for fixed S5 and I guess they can if you can fit AD58s. A shame those are only on the Redeemer. And you think one day, those won't be transferable?
The ships gravlevs don't really work either right? They don't function like the gravlev vehicles do.
I didn't know about the turret bug, so that's good to know.
The AD58 weapons are available to purchase in game now :)
@@fourfoxgaming Thanks for the heads up
Sehr gutes video :D
Ayeeeeee
Im almost at the auec needed to buy the prowler. I really hope cig rework it soon, it needs some tlc
Keep up the grind! We just need a few hotfixes at the moment, and maybe some news about dropship gameplay in a few months
the #1 I want for CIG to make a difference in these ships is the removal of the Grav Lev engines because it's useless AF! What used to have a Grav Lev Engines if it can't actually levitate without folding its wings to land? I mean there are 3 Hover Bikes in this game now namely Dragonfly, Nox, Hoverquad, and future X1 from Origin which is stated to be the bike that can be stored on the 300i Bike Hanger on the front.
Yeah I agree, the grave lev is a nice concept, but I would rather do a fly by over a landingzone and drop troops off mid air. When it comes to capital boarding, I'd rather the troops use a type of hooking device like a reverse grav gun
@@fourfoxgaming brilliant idea! that indeed will be a useful game mechanics for pirating and boarding capital class ships.
When is alien week roughly? Great video btw!!
First contact day is June 6 so it's a little behind schedule. Normally a whole week passes between Invictus and alien week before it starts.
Hi, new subscriber here. Would it be worth CCU'ing to a Prowler from a Sentinel for a single user for access to larger guns?
This is what I did, I had so much hope for the vanguard series but ultimately, those 4 size 2 weapons on the vanguard had me switch to the prowler. It's a great ship for solo. Top tier bounty mission grinder
@@fourfoxgaming Thanks for the confirmation! I wound up CCU'ing over last night and ran a mission this morning. While vulnerable to the smaller craft it indeed slays with the larger ships!
@@SCTimbal you should hop on our discord! I would love to fly with you!
@@fourfoxgaming Yeah bud, will join up in a bit, always fun to fly with other Prowler pilots! (My old Prowler got converted to a Hull E, so I just put the ol' girl back in the hangar!)
As soon as I saw this ship I decided to myself im going to get it, Not much of a PvP pilot however the idea of dropships for ground makes me happy. I'll either buy it during alien week or in game.
Question though, when is alien week?
Alien Week should be this month.
But i would buy the prowler only ingame. For its price tag its very limited.
How it's said in the vid, it's in price range of the 600i. Which is far more versatile.
There are better ships for less $/€ to buy.
Ingame with aUEC it has an ok price.
First contact day is June 6th so we should hopefully see it in the next week
This ship really expands the imagination when it comes to fps scenarios for both ground and space combat. But $440 is Abit crazy. Through ccu chains, I was able to acquire mine for $240
If I decide to get it, I'll just trade up from my 400i
I still own my Prowler it was awesome when it first came out but got nerfed due to complaints. Ship handling has NO logic right now they are just tweaking things to appease the whiners in spectrum.
Yeah I don't think we will ever get a bigger nerf than the prowler. The ion was close tho
Have been flying the prowler since it came out, and I have a couple of things to add: the prowler has NO flares or noise, making it horrible for pvp as someone can bombard you with missiles easily, and the same goes for PvE to a lower extent. You can vault up the side hatches for the drop crew, making ladders not needed there. The prowler has a lot of bugs, and is not the best ship to fly, but god damn does it sound good. Between the drop ship hatches not being able to close once opened, the remote turret issues mentioned, and issues with it’s power consumption, it is really due for a pass. However, I have to ask about your intentions behind the interior rework. As it stands, where in gods name would you put this armoury you speak of? The prowler is VERY starved for space, and can barely fit the most basic amnesties. Even if you removed the ladder for entry, I don’t believe there would be enough space to add new things into this dropship. It could definitely use some interactable light switches like the MSR has though, I love the mood lighting when the ship is powered down. Other than those couple of things, great video! I hope to see more on your prowler, as it’s one of my favourite ships to talk about due to its design.
Oh boy do I have a bomb shell for yo homie. Go to the other pilot seat, you've been flying it from the co-pilot seat this whole time. The other seat does indeed have flares and noise!
Yeah I haven't had any issues with my flairs. In the case for the armory, small storage units like the c2 pilots pistol drawer would be a great welcomed addition to the prowler.
the Prowler like many of the other ships are "Prop" ships for a scene of Squadron 42 the single player campaign and have 0 functionality in the game at the moment and for the foreseeable future.
As long as they continue to push the single player as a priority the multiplayer will be stuck where it is.they just push these ships out so we can help them finance their movie game.
I like to think of it as an in game concept ship. Along the same lines as the reclaimer at the moment
Dammit hahaha I just got the prowler and been using it the last 2 days, and actually spent 350K on Stealth upgrades hahaha I should have invested in Mili A grade...
And I was also confused about the claimed manned turret because I fly solo but sometimes I see the enter remote turret prompt and sometimes not and it's just strange.
The back gate is very badly designed for interactions, and aside from the awesome esthetics, it's really not a very good ship. I have more success with my mili upgraded Andromeda solo than the "stealthy" prowler...
Yeah I did the bounty mission grind and was Abit disappointed when I got the whole grade A stealth kit. You can enter the remote turret perfectly fine when your flying solo, it's just when you have a copilot when it starts acting funny.
for a ship that does absolutely nothing I fail to see why its worth 440 USD
It does pew pew pretty well though
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It's a nice transportation ship. I don't ever have this ship filled with more than 4 people usually
@@fourfoxgaming Thank you for good information. I will come often.
The Prowler has been nerfed into the ground, left to die in a ditch and will probably never be fixed for another 5 years minimum.
*6 years
its literally an osprey
You got it all wrong dude first of all the prowler is way to big to be a stealth ship. second you dont even neeed a turret man on the prowler since turret are slaved to pilot.
When in pvp, having someone in that turret is very important. The prowler is too slow to maneuver it's S5 weapons to catch light fighters.
It Flies like a brick, doesn't it 😞
Yeah, but I'm used to it. I fly this ship and the 600i alot so I'm used to heavy ships