@@unfurropendejo.9473 They are. In fact, there is a saying that Italians are just French people in a good mood and French people are just Italians in a bad mood.
I started watching and was way more interested in what Faux Cares was saying even though I already knew what he was explaining because I love language anyway.
Bowl is such a madlad that he delivers incredibly heavy insults, gets forced to apologize, and while apologizing manages to deliver an even heavier insult.
I love how the minute Caffiena brought up those stereotypes BOTH of you went about systematically shutting it down...and then when she concedes the point you two immediately went to throw mud at the other. The mark of a good friendship.
Caffeina really dropped an argument-starting nuclear bomb of a sentence without a care in the world. Asking where she should go to first to people from the two countries in question is a DEATH SENTENCE
I love how it's just over 25+ minutes worth of FC and Bowl one-upping each other and it just crashes down to Caffeina and Bowl spiraling down to insanity, and at the end, Caff decided that Italy shall be the place to go. Oh, how the tables have turned.
Poor caffeina, she got virtual tours of the entirety of France and England, but paid the price of bowl immaturely insulting her repeatedly. Par for the course I suppose.
@@carmi7042 Because Richard Coeur de Lion did and didn't even spent an entire month of his life in England while being it's king and preferred writing poems in old French and Occitan in south western France.
Bowl's wit is truly in a league of its own. He always has the perfect snappy comeback to anything, and the way he called back at the end to his money-owing bit was amazing
I live in a tiny town in Wales where the human population is vastly outnumbered by sheep in the surrounding countryside and we STILL have four pubs (6 if you include the ones slightly further down the road)
As an American, I still get upset daily that McDonalds and Disney has somehow become representative of our entire culture. It's like saying Carrefour is somehow entirely representative of France. Or the Oil Company BP defines Britain. The same mindset that has resulted in Americans thinking Great Britain is all Toast Sandwiches and bad teeth, and France is all Baguettes and Snobbery is the same mindset that has reduced America to a plate of cheap burgers and fries that are barely food, especially when compared to the same dish prepared by a competent chef rather than a depressed teenager. That being said, beautiful countries gents. I would love to visit sometime. Those lakes in particular looked like good places to visit. Though I might stay out of Paris and London. Too many people and (particularly) tourists. Makes things overcrowded, and harder to enjoy in my opinion.
Paris has become the capital of a third world country, forget the capital of lights and love, it's gone now just like the rest of French culture. The only good thing left are the monuments, castles, cathedral, landscape, basically anything that isn't modern. I'm not English but I'm sure the same thing can be said about London or the UK in general
It makes me sad that when people think of America they only think of either Northern state culture or southern state culture. The United States is a big place and has many groups of people within it. People either think we are all Dixie cowboys or rich Yankees but there are many people in between. We have influence from many cultures that has led to a variety of building styles and cuisines you can find all over, especially in minority communities like little Italy or Chinatown.
@@legacymse7095 Even though I think that some of the decisions and actions taken by European politicians have affected their countries in a negative manner (after all Bowl made that joke about Boris Johnson and not Churchill for a reason), I think calling them 3rd world when they still have access to basic necessities like food, water, shelter, basic medical care and not dying from the bubonic plague on a semi-regular basis, means they still have quite a few more screw-ups to go before we can degrade them to that status. If that were the case, all of America would be a 3rd world country simply because a few of our largest cities and states are managed by people who are corrupt, and ok with human refuse piling up on some of the most crowded and toured streets. In addition, I also must have missed the part where I country being 3rd world suddenly makes it ugly, so even if that was the case, what does that have to do with the conversation? I would genuinely like to hear an explanation.
@@dylanwillmon5672 For sure. There are so many varieties and cultural groups within the US, and even most Americans tend to ignore it until you point it out. But no one sane would say a Cajun Crawfisher and Georgia Peach Farmer are the same culturally. Calling a New Yorker and someone from Jersey the same in any manner, let alone culturally will result in your looted corpse showing up in the Hudson. Despite both Utah and Colorado sharing a mutual love of the outdoors, particularly when it comes to winter sports, I don't really think it's a hot take to say Aspen and Park City are definitely not the same thing. And most States, particularly in the west, actively try to avoid having a culture that even remotely resembles the culture in So-Cal. Including a fair portion of Southern Californians. Not even to mention the various native cultures that exist. Whether it is the Hawaiian, Cherokee, or Navajo, the Native American cultures were extremely distinct, and still are today.
4:11 "Europe is not a country! Actually European countries don't even like each other" I bet most Americans before the war did not know what Ukraine was or thought that was just a lost province of Russia
Same with Africa, black american think that everyone love each other and is united and that european are the cause of all of the disput between the countries, when there is currently religious/civil war. I want to see them put a congolese, a rwandese and a morrocan in the same room. This is why they are always surprise when they wome to France and see that not all black people are part of the same community. We are part of our origins countries communities, not our skin colour.
I was confused at the end, but I started laughing when Caffeina chose Italy. Then my head got slammed into a brick wall when Bowl said "I owe Paolo money"
The time this was posted is so coincidental. I recently moved to Korea because of my dad’s job and now we’re trying to determine wether we should go to China or Japan first.
I would suggest China but the weather is garbage in the summer so might as well go to Japan. Doesn't help that I'm ashamed of my own country's politics.
@@chrisshen7555 China is lowkey strict to the point where it’s a dystopia. I’d rather Japan simply because I want to get to know the place anime originated from. Clique, I know.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I can tell that this is going to be a civilised discussion between a French person and his English friend... right?
Personal takeaway from this video: For the love of god, if you have the money and get the chance, explore the world- it's a hell of a place. Something on my bucket list is visiting the seven natural wonders of the world...and I just had to add a lot more places to the list.
I struggle to take sides in a France v England argument considering I have parents of both nationalities, but if anything, it shows me there's plenty of both countries I still need to visit. And both FC and Bowl's debating skills are second to none. Glad to have discovered FBI
I just love how the first 5 minutes is about both of you being triggered about different stereotypes ignoring eahc other rants. 10/10 would say british are rude and french food is bad again.
There's something I've always loved about people expressing how beautiful their homeland is, you can tell even under all the jokes and insults that everyone is really passionate about it. I wish I got to do it more often, but usually the second I tell someone online I'm from Texas, all they want to do is trash on "inbred rednecks", and if I try to defend Texas, I'm suddenly some kind of stupid hick. All those coastal idiots, pretending they know what the south is like, but whatever. Great video as always!
It's really crazy how you guys can just list off places and historical events like you just experienced them, meanwhile I grew up being taught about Columbus in elementary school only to truly learn about his horrific misdeeds in highschool.
I didn't even learn about them until *COLLEGE*. That means a lot of Americans don't know what Columbus did or about how much the Disney movies they grew up watching get wrong.
@@ryuken10 it's actually crazy, I didn't really care for history class until the reached highschool when we ended up knowing the full scope of what really happened and while learning the truth, why bother teaching kids that at all if they won't get the full story until they're way older.
@@trainerrichard6859 mostly because it establishes a foundation. Also, side note, it’s important to judge them by their time. Granted, Columbus was insane even by their standards, but with most people, they’re technically a victim of their time.
@@lojika1majik is a foundation even worth it if you don't even have the full the story. It's kinda insane how this guy basically commits genocide and gets a whole holiday for it. In my opinion if you need to sugar coat the truth so kids can learn it, then you probably shouldn't be teaching them about it.
i don't know about most of the world but Ive read Asterix my entire life. my dad collects them and always enjoys rereads. i never knew a Asterix theme park even existed! i don't speak for everyone but this is the main reason i love watching yer videos FC, you introduce us things that are wildly interesting and fun. the entire Mexican food debate has left me so curious now, i shall wait till travel restrictions let up so that i can visit Paris and experience the asterix theme park!!!
If you like Asterix, the theme park is great. It's barely smaller than Disneyland, the rides go harder, and the theming of the park is on point. And they introduce new rides quite regularly. The only downside is that it's not open all year. If you go for "theme", Disney is better, but if you go for "theme and rides", Asterix is superior. If you just go for rides.... go to Europa park.
As a guy who has lived in France all his life in a partly English family, this was very entertaining to watch. Also Parc Astérix > Disneyland Paris 100%
The Palace of Versailles in the only building I’ve been been to where I’ve actually felt visual overload from the sheer amount of shit and detail Louis put into everything. Not everything needs so much gold carving and mirrors. But the gardens and Marie Antoinette’s house, on the other hand, are positively delightful, places that I could imagine myself actually living in.
Fair enough. On a side note, screw French strikes. I went to Paris in the middle of January 2020, and half the touristic places were closed or unavailable. It was bad enough having Notre Dame under restoration (understandably), but waking up at 6 AM (in Spain we get up at 7-8 AM on working day, so that's pretty jarring for us already) to visit the Louvre only for it to remain closed due to strikes really took the cake. It took four attempts in four consecutive days only to watch Mona Lisa, an overrated painting the sfumatto" of which is just grime the museum refuses to clean. Plus the closed underground lines, buses that came every 30 minutes, and having any plans ruined because of a lack of public transport (lines changed everyday, so no way to plan ahead), overcrowded places and reduced visiting hours everywhere.
@@leiretxu_99 1 if you enter the Louvre "only to watch Mona Lisa", go back. Liberté guidant le peuple and Radeau de la Méduse are masterpieces too, and there are beautiful friezes, fantastic sculptures, et caetera... 2 you also have to wake up at 6AM while visiting spain, otherwise you melt by simply putting your head in the street. 3 oh, i have an idea! let's send the army to be sure there are no strikes ! wonderfull isn't it ? 4 as stated in a video, there are, indeed, peoples in Paris. You are part of the "overcrowded" of someone else.
As an Italian, I'm waiting Italy vs France. Love to you French, our cousins. Also by watching this video I understood more about how these languages are similar, I mean Italian and French even if it is kinda different from the other romance languages as sounds imo. Also that video was great in my opinion because I am studying in an Art focused school.
Just landed from two weeks travelling the South of France. People who say the French are dicks have no idea what they are talking about. I spent the whole time sullying your lovely language with my English accent and terrible grammar and not one person stabbed me even though they probably should have. Would 100% go again, England's country scenery might be slightly better but the cities in France put ours to shame.
To be fair, not only the "French people hate bad grammar" cliché hails from Parisians most exclusively, but the South is also viewed as friendler and more open even inside of France. Also, you did the effort of trying to speak French, which a lot of people appreciate here, and which isn't something all tourists are willing to do.
French makes an excuse for coldness and the British makes an excuse for their lack of spices, and Americans make an apology for bringing both of those up while eating a hot dog
Cette vidéo est instantanément devenu ma préférée de cette chaîne. Bien sûr écouter des débats d'idées, des vannes amusantes et des piques bien sentis font ma joue et à mon sens la vie de cette chaîne... Mais être transcendé par les partages passionnés de FC et Bowl vaut encore bien plus : elle m'a ouvert les yeux sur la beauté du monde dans lequel je vis et dont je n'avais pas ou à peine conscience. Et encore plus exceptionnel, FC a réussi à me réconcilier avec Paris.
The two ships I remember visiting were the Cutty Sark and the HMS Belfast, both 10/10 ships. Though if you want the true British experience, go to the London Eye, then the London Dungeons, then the aquarium next to it (all three of these places are literally next to eachother btw). Then if you have time, visit one of our many great museums. We have several iconic ones to choose from, including the iconic Natural History Museum. And that’s not to mention our historic and iconic theatres, true works of art where Shakespeare once performed his plays.
As someone who has visited France before, I must say: you gotta visit Italy, it's the coolest place for sure. Though you'd expect the travel to be cheaper since they're closer together... It's not.
I swear to god that this is the most spontaneous and cultured debate channel that I've been introduced. It's hilarious how y'all manage to be funny and intellectual at the same time! I love this kind of content, keep it up, my guy. Cheers from Brazil. ❤🇧🇷 By the way, thanks for the tourism information. Now I know where I can go to introduce Europe to my mom lol.
>Yes it is 4 AM in the morning >Yes I have School at 7 AM >Yes I watched an entire 40 minutes of a French and Britisher argue over who has the better country >No I do not regret anything
I love how most of the video is Bowl and FC talking about how much they love their countries, showing many beautiful images of talking about the histories behind them. Then the rest of the video is Bowl and FC trash talking the other person's country.
Little did we realize that 20:59 was actually the _start_ of FC summoning _fucking_ *Exodia!* Jesus Christ! (Granted it took a minute to get the final pieces out there, but it still works.)
Pour moi c'est de loin la meilleure vidéo que vous ayez faite, c'était juste tellement intéressant!! J'ai pris plein de notes, je dois maintenant visiter un tas d'endroits, les photos étaient sublimes, et puis j'ai tellement rigolé. Peut-être même plus que dans le premier French vs English debate qui m'avait pourtant beaucoup fait rire. C'est fou d'avoir à la fois autant de connaissances et de répartie. Bon pour conclure merci, je ne me suis pas ennuyée une seule seconde et maintenant j'ai deux pays à visiter à fond!!
I used to live in Paris when I was little. And while I was there, my mother would take me and my brothers to looong walks through the city while explaining to us the centuries's old history behind the buildings and the monuments we were seeing. From the most forgotten statues in dark squares to the world known monuments. And even though I didn't pay attention at the time, I'm really grateful to her when I think back at it. And the way you were describing the beauty of our capital (even though some places in Paris are shitholes) truly reminded me of her. Your video reminded me that I'd like to visit the world someday, it must have so much places with breath taking sights and history to deliver...
It's debates like this that make me wonder how the other people in the server react when they come online and find 25+ minutes's worth of arguing. In any case, both France and England have a lot of great places that never get mentioned when you visit! Like, one of my teachers once said something along the lines of "France has been reduced to Paris in the eyes of foreigners." You just don't hear nearly enough about the other beautiful places. Also, this debate has made me look up some pretty places in my own country, so thanks for that!
Being born in England to French parents and never having been to neither Paris nor London, this was a very instructive and entertaining video Thank you for the quality content
I love the slower pace when showing pics of different places, it allows the viewer to *actually* consider the picture and let the mind go wild. oh and uh - HELL YEAH CHAMONIX AND ANNECY LAKE GOOD JOB FC
How could an Englishman not bring up Devon and Dorset in a conversation about beaches? On the Jurassic Coast is 185 million years of Mesozoic geological history. This is the foundation of modern paleontology and there is nothing cooler than dinosaurs. Outside of that, we've got Durdle Door, so everyone else can go get their prostates massaged.
i see this guys point and arguments and how amazing he is at comebacks, and how absolutely educated he is aswell. And i cant help but someday hope i can be as good as him at making such great arguments/comebacks.
Looking at the comparisons. I think it maybe because British architecture is over represented but a good deal of the palaces and other fancy vistas to look rather plain. French architecture certainly holds a great degree of majesty in its architecture and its mountainous terrain. England on the flipside holds a far more relaxed, cozy and rustic vibe. The last word by no means is an insult. The countryside is indeed gorgeous and comfy in comparison to France. Meanwhile in America you gotta head really far west to experience beautiful nature that even compares. The big cities have just deteriorated really bad since the 60s.
Personally I think both countries are fantastic, but I would KILL to visit Japan in my life. It’s one of the oldest countries in the world and is simply breathtaking to look at. Things like Osaka Castle, The Arashiyama Bamboo Forrest, Mount Fuji, The Island Shrine of Itsukushima and many more are just breathtaking to see. It’s sad that most people just associate it with anime (I live in America, but boy I hate it) when it’s so much more.
I think China may be more interesting to visit (and cheaper) Good food, better landscape, better monuments, good culture and they are developing their tourist attractions a lot ( soft power you know). But it's like France or Italy even if you take a lot of time it will be hard to visit everything at once and there are a lot of restrictions due to covid. Southeast Asia is very good also for its price and the people are nice .
This video made me miss Europe so much. As an Air Force kid who grew up in Germany, I spent my whole childhood touring all over the place, including some of the places in this video (Mount Saint Michael is absolutely stunning, btw) and after moving to the states, the loss of history and culture was immediately noticeable. Not to say the states don’t have anything, but as part of our history involved tearing down historic cities to make way for ugly roads because of our obsession with cars, we lost a lot of what we have. Although I can thoroughly recommend both of the countries discussed in this video, I have to say that Germany has probably just as many landmarks and beautiful sights (Both man-made and natural) so Caffeina probably won’t have to even go far to see some amazing things.
I wanted to add: I will side with Faux on this one. France is infinetly more interesting. I wasn't in Paris, but I was in Nice and Montpellier. Just those two cities are infinetly better than entirety of London. In London, only Buckingham palace was interesting, but besides that... nah man. London may have rich history but I feel it's lost it's way somewhere. Way before brexit even, it felt so.. fake, like it was trying to show off instead of actually be interesting. I feel like Bowl didn't really show any arguments as to why I should visit England again. Don't get me wrong, the guy is great and all, but taking a serious look at this conversation, seeing how Faux gave most of the worthwhile things to see /JUST IN PARIS/ and seeing Bowl reach out of London to pull ANYTHING to have argument against Faux, was really eye opening and I should visit Paris asap.
Awesome video, loved to see the beautiful places. But if it all came from "mean people, awesome food" vs "nicer people, terrible food", then y'all should come to Brazil. We are a welcoming people who like to treat outsiders nicely, and our food is just awesome. A continental country where you can see different biomes, know very different cultures, and taste many types of cuisine, all really well-made. Just don't come to Rio, you may get shot
Great video again, FC. Also, if you don’t mind sharing, can I ask about your choice words about “American romance” at the beginning? That was pretty heavy condemnation. (Also I’m pretty sure it was Japanese tourists who were the catalyst for ‘Paris Syndrome’ but I could be wrong).
They probably mean the media representation of romance that Hollywood portrays. Still stereotypical tho, but does influence a good number of people's unrealistic expectations of romance
this taught me more about france and england than the entirety of history class also i pick england they don't eat snails edit: faux cares is an amazing photographer
Even though I liked Paris, I still think that if you wanted to visit france for france and french culture, Paris is not the place to go first because it is very unique.
I think the other thing that contributes to "the Frenchies are assholes" is the expectation yanks have that when they go somewhere everyone will speak English for them (this coincides with the 'gracing everyone with their presence' point).
Warning: This war's collateral damage may have reached the USA, Spain and Australia... Stay home and be safe.
Hail Brittany!
As an American
*Load the McNukes we left the Paris agreement for a reason*
America is on the brink of collapse. It was only the question of “when” I was wondering.
he forgot the statue of liberty which was made the frogs.
as an american I can gladly say...
america sucks and is stupid
POV: you’re watching the single most civil debate between a Frenchman and an Englishman in recorded history
it’s not a debate, it’s 2 ads for their respective countries playing at the same time
And people think the balkan debates are uncivilised
@@romeersharma2488 go search up "average balkan debates"
What about the 100 years (or French and Indian, for yanks) war?
Incredibile that no Fort has been sieged during the duration of this -autofellatio- debate
Caffeina deciding to go to Italy first is the best "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" I ever witnessed
Luigi wins a debate by going to a British pub instead of the debate.
Idk why but when i was young i used to think of Italy and France as similar countries :/
*Mario and Luigi but Italy is Luigi*
@@unfurropendejo.9473 They are. In fact, there is a saying that Italians are just French people in a good mood and French people are just Italians in a bad mood.
Makes it even better since Luigi is an Italian name
@LeGameHen hes right tho, much of england is in fact a shithoel, and i say this as a brit
I love how Faux Cares is delivering a French grammar lesson while Bowl is having a rant about food
I also love how they completely ignore each other because they're so busy ranting. Perfect chaotic energy
"There are two wolves inside you"
I was literally just going to say the same thing
I started watching and was way more interested in what Faux Cares was saying even though I already knew what he was explaining because I love language anyway.
And Bowl is so wrong. We all know french pastries are way better.
Bowl is such a madlad that he delivers incredibly heavy insults, gets forced to apologize, and while apologizing manages to deliver an even heavier insult.
Was that pun intentional?
@@rvmp2ka "heavy"
I wouldn't of caught on if the pun was there to begin with lmao, probably unintended
"the Notre Dame is only relevant when it's on fire" is a bar
That and his genuine attempt at making amends, his demonic chan- um, seizu- I mean, madden rav- I mean, friendship song was quite nightmarish.
I love how the minute Caffiena brought up those stereotypes BOTH of you went about systematically shutting it down...and then when she concedes the point you two immediately went to throw mud at the other.
The mark of a good friendship.
my good sir, historically speaking I do believe that is how British and French relations have worked
we've learned 3 things about Bowl today
- Günter owes him money
- Boris owes him money
- he owes Paolo money
Caffeina really dropped an argument-starting nuclear bomb of a sentence without a care in the world.
Asking where she should go to first to people from the two countries in question is a DEATH SENTENCE
I love how it's just over 25+ minutes worth of FC and Bowl one-upping each other and it just crashes down to Caffeina and Bowl spiraling down to insanity, and at the end, Caff decided that Italy shall be the place to go.
Oh, how the tables have turned.
i think you meant: how the turned tables
Poor caffeina, she got virtual tours of the entirety of France and England, but paid the price of bowl immaturely insulting her repeatedly. Par for the course I suppose.
Getting insulted by a Bri'ish man is part of the tour, it makes the experience feel real. Bonus points if they mug you after getting to Birningham.
she didn't even get acid attacked
Bowl seriously wronged her. I mean where is the stabbing? I don't see any. How could you forget such an important part of british culture?
The true British experience, won’t be complete without it.
I'm fucking *floored* Bowl of all people called a joke "distasteful."
professionals have standards
“White
Blond hair
Blue eyes”
“That’s not helping” BRUH
WAIT A MINUTE
Still found a way to clown America lmao
“I’m pretty sure he’s the only white man in Germany.” Caught me off guard
MIGRATION FÖR ALLA
redpilled bowl??
I got caught off guard aswell at the part where Faux said Richard I tried to sell London
@@carmi7042 Because Richard Coeur de Lion did and didn't even spent an entire month of his life in England while being it's king and preferred writing poems in old French and Occitan in south western France.
@@ommsterlitz1805 Yes I know that. I was just surprised he tried to sell an entire town
Bowl's wit is truly in a league of its own. He always has the perfect snappy comeback to anything, and the way he called back at the end to his money-owing bit was amazing
I live in a tiny town in Wales where the human population is vastly outnumbered by sheep in the surrounding countryside and we STILL have four pubs (6 if you include the ones slightly further down the road)
Wales is lovely.
I swear I've seen that pfp before lol
@@Wheagg is it because of the art style being so indifferent?
@@frenchbaguetteintelligence definitely, but we are a little overrun by sheep lol
@@Wheagg I made it on picrew so you've probably seen a similar one somewhere lol
As an American, I still get upset daily that McDonalds and Disney has somehow become representative of our entire culture.
It's like saying Carrefour is somehow entirely representative of France. Or the Oil Company BP defines Britain.
The same mindset that has resulted in Americans thinking Great Britain is all Toast Sandwiches and bad teeth, and France is all Baguettes and Snobbery is the same mindset that has reduced America to a plate of cheap burgers and fries that are barely food, especially when compared to the same dish prepared by a competent chef rather than a depressed teenager.
That being said, beautiful countries gents. I would love to visit sometime. Those lakes in particular looked like good places to visit.
Though I might stay out of Paris and London. Too many people and (particularly) tourists. Makes things overcrowded, and harder to enjoy in my opinion.
Paris has become the capital of a third world country, forget the capital of lights and love, it's gone now just like the rest of French culture. The only good thing left are the monuments, castles, cathedral, landscape, basically anything that isn't modern.
I'm not English but I'm sure the same thing can be said about London or the UK in general
It makes me sad that when people think of America they only think of either Northern state culture or southern state culture. The United States is a big place and has many groups of people within it. People either think we are all Dixie cowboys or rich Yankees but there are many people in between. We have influence from many cultures that has led to a variety of building styles and cuisines you can find all over, especially in minority communities like little Italy or Chinatown.
@@legacymse7095 …what?
@@legacymse7095 Even though I think that some of the decisions and actions taken by European politicians have affected their countries in a negative manner (after all Bowl made that joke about Boris Johnson and not Churchill for a reason), I think calling them 3rd world when they still have access to basic necessities like food, water, shelter, basic medical care and not dying from the bubonic plague on a semi-regular basis, means they still have quite a few more screw-ups to go before we can degrade them to that status.
If that were the case, all of America would be a 3rd world country simply because a few of our largest cities and states are managed by people who are corrupt, and ok with human refuse piling up on some of the most crowded and toured streets.
In addition, I also must have missed the part where I country being 3rd world suddenly makes it ugly, so even if that was the case, what does that have to do with the conversation? I would genuinely like to hear an explanation.
@@dylanwillmon5672 For sure. There are so many varieties and cultural groups within the US, and even most Americans tend to ignore it until you point it out.
But no one sane would say a Cajun Crawfisher and Georgia Peach Farmer are the same culturally.
Calling a New Yorker and someone from Jersey the same in any manner, let alone culturally will result in your looted corpse showing up in the Hudson.
Despite both Utah and Colorado sharing a mutual love of the outdoors, particularly when it comes to winter sports, I don't really think it's a hot take to say Aspen and Park City are definitely not the same thing.
And most States, particularly in the west, actively try to avoid having a culture that even remotely resembles the culture in So-Cal. Including a fair portion of Southern Californians.
Not even to mention the various native cultures that exist. Whether it is the Hawaiian, Cherokee, or Navajo, the Native American cultures were extremely distinct, and still are today.
I laughed out loud at "Dear God..." "There's more." "No..."
Absolutely excellent reference inserted flawlessly into the video. Masterpiece.
4:11 "Europe is not a country! Actually European countries don't even like each other" I bet most Americans before the war did not know what Ukraine was or thought that was just a lost province of Russia
If you look at those TH-cam video's of american filling Maps of Europe some would still wonder if its part of the USSR smh
As if most Western Europeans knew or cared what Ukraine was either
Same with Africa, black american think that everyone love each other and is united and that european are the cause of all of the disput between the countries, when there is currently religious/civil war. I want to see them put a congolese, a rwandese and a morrocan in the same room.
This is why they are always surprise when they wome to France and see that not all black people are part of the same community. We are part of our origins countries communities, not our skin colour.
They’d think it’s a lost state of Russia because they think they’re called states everywhere.
I was confused at the end, but I started laughing when Caffeina chose Italy. Then my head got slammed into a brick wall when Bowl said "I owe Paolo money"
"Oh, nice. You got them both ranting." that takes skill to do
"Why would you travel to another country just to get drunk? You can do that at home!"
French and English tourists in Benidorm, Spain:
no, no, no
in ALL spain
The time this was posted is so coincidental. I recently moved to Korea because of my dad’s job and now we’re trying to determine wether we should go to China or Japan first.
Go to Japan, China is a scary place.
Japan. China is too authoritarian.
I suggest Japan!
I would suggest China but the weather is garbage in the summer so might as well go to Japan. Doesn't help that I'm ashamed of my own country's politics.
@@chrisshen7555 China is lowkey strict to the point where it’s a dystopia. I’d rather Japan simply because I want to get to know the place anime originated from. Clique, I know.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I can tell that this is going to be a civilised discussion between a French person and his English friend... right?
I like how this debate was just 2 people yelling at someone for insulting thier country(at the start)
"bowl likes it hard" made me choke on air, I was NOT prepared for that
Personal takeaway from this video:
For the love of god, if you have the money and get the chance, explore the world- it's a hell of a place. Something on my bucket list is visiting the seven natural wonders of the world...and I just had to add a lot more places to the list.
I struggle to take sides in a France v England argument considering I have parents of both nationalities, but if anything, it shows me there's plenty of both countries I still need to visit.
And both FC and Bowl's debating skills are second to none. Glad to have discovered FBI
“A few years ago I saw two men there, dragging a woman into a car trunk, and I did nothing to stop it” caught me way off guard fucking hell bowl 😂😂
I just love how the first 5 minutes is about both of you being triggered about different stereotypes ignoring eahc other rants. 10/10 would say british are rude and french food is bad again.
There's something I've always loved about people expressing how beautiful their homeland is, you can tell even under all the jokes and insults that everyone is really passionate about it. I wish I got to do it more often, but usually the second I tell someone online I'm from Texas, all they want to do is trash on "inbred rednecks", and if I try to defend Texas, I'm suddenly some kind of stupid hick. All those coastal idiots, pretending they know what the south is like, but whatever. Great video as always!
So true
That is with the south is like
It's really crazy how you guys can just list off places and historical events like you just experienced them, meanwhile I grew up being taught about Columbus in elementary school only to truly learn about his horrific misdeeds in highschool.
I didn't even learn about them until *COLLEGE*. That means a lot of Americans don't know what Columbus did or about how much the Disney movies they grew up watching get wrong.
@@ryuken10 it's actually crazy, I didn't really care for history class until the reached highschool when we ended up knowing the full scope of what really happened and while learning the truth, why bother teaching kids that at all if they won't get the full story until they're way older.
@@trainerrichard6859 mostly because it establishes a foundation. Also, side note, it’s important to judge them by their time. Granted, Columbus was insane even by their standards, but with most people, they’re technically a victim of their time.
@@lojika1majik is a foundation even worth it if you don't even have the full the story. It's kinda insane how this guy basically commits genocide and gets a whole holiday for it. In my opinion if you need to sugar coat the truth so kids can learn it, then you probably shouldn't be teaching them about it.
@@trainerrichard6859 it is.
i don't know about most of the world but Ive read Asterix my entire life. my dad collects them and always enjoys rereads. i never knew a Asterix theme park even existed!
i don't speak for everyone but this is the main reason i love watching yer videos FC, you introduce us things that are wildly interesting and fun. the entire Mexican food debate has left me so curious now, i shall wait till travel restrictions let up so that i can visit Paris and experience the asterix theme park!!!
If you like Asterix, the theme park is great.
It's barely smaller than Disneyland, the rides go harder, and the theming of the park is on point. And they introduce new rides quite regularly.
The only downside is that it's not open all year.
If you go for "theme", Disney is better, but if you go for "theme and rides", Asterix is superior.
If you just go for rides.... go to Europa park.
I still have an Asterix comic from when I was a kid
As a guy who has lived in France all his life in a partly English family, this was very entertaining to watch.
Also Parc Astérix > Disneyland Paris 100%
"London has more pubs than it has teeth"
"French pastries are way too soft"
I'm sure there's a correlation there somewhere
They may not be intellectuals or geniuses, but they certainly know their history and places on their own countries.
Also top 10 betrayals: 39:08
14:58
Lol, millions of people in Canada have french as their mother tongue, and both Québec and New-Brunswick have french as their official language.
quebec is full of idiots
The Palace of Versailles in the only building I’ve been been to where I’ve actually felt visual overload from the sheer amount of shit and detail Louis put into everything. Not everything needs so much gold carving and mirrors.
But the gardens and Marie Antoinette’s house, on the other hand, are positively delightful, places that I could imagine myself actually living in.
This implies you can live without plumbing
@@Wheagg They can, just not too well, Wheatley.
@@Voc_spooksauce bruh I'd explode in like 5 days from holding it
As a Spaniard, Paris is the best choice. It has Disneyland.
Unfortunately, it also has parisians.
Screw Disneyland.
@@frenchbaguetteintelligence Didney Wol.
Fair enough.
On a side note, screw French strikes. I went to Paris in the middle of January 2020, and half the touristic places were closed or unavailable. It was bad enough having Notre Dame under restoration (understandably), but waking up at 6 AM (in Spain we get up at 7-8 AM on working day, so that's pretty jarring for us already) to visit the Louvre only for it to remain closed due to strikes really took the cake. It took four attempts in four consecutive days only to watch Mona Lisa, an overrated painting the sfumatto" of which is just grime the museum refuses to clean.
Plus the closed underground lines, buses that came every 30 minutes, and having any plans ruined because of a lack of public transport (lines changed everyday, so no way to plan ahead), overcrowded places and reduced visiting hours everywhere.
Come to think of it, London didn't give me such headaches while visiting, so I might change my response above. Or I would, if they had actual food
@@leiretxu_99 1 if you enter the Louvre "only to watch Mona Lisa", go back. Liberté guidant le peuple and Radeau de la Méduse are masterpieces too, and there are beautiful friezes, fantastic sculptures, et caetera...
2 you also have to wake up at 6AM while visiting spain, otherwise you melt by simply putting your head in the street.
3 oh, i have an idea! let's send the army to be sure there are no strikes ! wonderfull isn't it ?
4 as stated in a video, there are, indeed, peoples in Paris. You are part of the "overcrowded" of someone else.
As an Italian, I'm waiting Italy vs France. Love to you French, our cousins. Also by watching this video I understood more about how these languages are similar, I mean Italian and French even if it is kinda different from the other romance languages as sounds imo. Also that video was great in my opinion because I am studying in an Art focused school.
Ma alla fine quando Caffeina ha detto di voler andare in Italia è stato troppo bello ahahahha. Siamo il paese più bello dopo tutto
@@riccardocirielli Concordo.
To be fair, Spanish also has the division of casual and respectful second person pronoun. I think that's common in romance languages
@@sasir2013 Yeah, I studied Spanish in middle school.
@@sasir2013 Portuguese does too, both brazilian and Portugal's. So yeah you're probally correct that at least most romance-like languages use it :)
15:14
"That was just distasteful, mate."
Seeing Bowl get serious made me shiver a little
Italy won by being the strong silent type
Finally, another part in the greatest cinematic trilogy of all time
Just landed from two weeks travelling the South of France. People who say the French are dicks have no idea what they are talking about. I spent the whole time sullying your lovely language with my English accent and terrible grammar and not one person stabbed me even though they probably should have. Would 100% go again, England's country scenery might be slightly better but the cities in France put ours to shame.
To be fair, not only the "French people hate bad grammar" cliché hails from Parisians most exclusively, but the South is also viewed as friendler and more open even inside of France. Also, you did the effort of trying to speak French, which a lot of people appreciate here, and which isn't something all tourists are willing to do.
@@martindouge1947 Just don't go to Marseille
As an American I wish I could apologize for Disneyland... but the mouse would find me and I'd not be seen again.
And so the trilogy continues with another marvelous entry of back and fourth between FC and Bowl in the discord!
Yes, another typical French vs. English debate!
French makes an excuse for coldness and the British makes an excuse for their lack of spices, and Americans make an apology for bringing both of those up while eating a hot dog
Bowls "Thanks Fatty" made me laugh like I haven't in years, and that might be an understatement.
7:53
“THIS is a clock.”
“Dear god.”
“There’s more.“
“No…”
Ah, still men of culture I see.
Cette vidéo est instantanément devenu ma préférée de cette chaîne. Bien sûr écouter des débats d'idées, des vannes amusantes et des piques bien sentis font ma joue et à mon sens la vie de cette chaîne... Mais être transcendé par les partages passionnés de FC et Bowl vaut encore bien plus : elle m'a ouvert les yeux sur la beauté du monde dans lequel je vis et dont je n'avais pas ou à peine conscience.
Et encore plus exceptionnel, FC a réussi à me réconcilier avec Paris.
>Video starts with both Bowl and FC taking the biggest huffs of copium I have ever seen
Oh yeah. This is gonna be good.
The two ships I remember visiting were the Cutty Sark and the HMS Belfast, both 10/10 ships. Though if you want the true British experience, go to the London Eye, then the London Dungeons, then the aquarium next to it (all three of these places are literally next to eachother btw). Then if you have time, visit one of our many great museums. We have several iconic ones to choose from, including the iconic Natural History Museum. And that’s not to mention our historic and iconic theatres, true works of art where Shakespeare once performed his plays.
Bowl's biggest mistake was arguing London of all places is a good place to visit.
Oh boy, I'm ready to see a bri'ish man and a snail eater dissing each other
As someone who has visited France before, I must say: you gotta visit Italy, it's the coolest place for sure. Though you'd expect the travel to be cheaper since they're closer together... It's not.
I swear to god that this is the most spontaneous and cultured debate channel that I've been introduced. It's hilarious how y'all manage to be funny and intellectual at the same time!
I love this kind of content, keep it up, my guy. Cheers from Brazil. ❤🇧🇷
By the way, thanks for the tourism information. Now I know where I can go to introduce Europe to my mom lol.
"It's like getting a pizza in Italy, *robbed* in Romania, or having your prostate massaged in France."
Bowl has the best blursed friend energy.
Just a few minutes into the video and the two Europeans are already hating on Americans. I love it.
>Yes it is 4 AM in the morning
>Yes I have School at 7 AM
>Yes I watched an entire 40 minutes of a French and Britisher argue over who has the better country
>No I do not regret anything
But please, come to Europe, give us your money
In both countries, i will not deny that history is absolutely everywhere and omnipresent.
I love how most of the video is Bowl and FC talking about how much they love their countries, showing many beautiful images of talking about the histories behind them.
Then the rest of the video is Bowl and FC trash talking the other person's country.
If italy was in this argument, italy would 1. stick with France or England then betray them lol
Nah Italy would have just defeated them both
Little did we realize that 20:59 was actually the _start_ of FC summoning _fucking_ *Exodia!* Jesus Christ!
(Granted it took a minute to get the final pieces out there, but it still works.)
Pour moi c'est de loin la meilleure vidéo que vous ayez faite, c'était juste tellement intéressant!! J'ai pris plein de notes, je dois maintenant visiter un tas d'endroits, les photos étaient sublimes, et puis j'ai tellement rigolé. Peut-être même plus que dans le premier French vs English debate qui m'avait pourtant beaucoup fait rire. C'est fou d'avoir à la fois autant de connaissances et de répartie.
Bon pour conclure merci, je ne me suis pas ennuyée une seule seconde et maintenant j'ai deux pays à visiter à fond!!
I used to live in Paris when I was little. And while I was there, my mother would take me and my brothers to looong walks through the city while explaining to us the centuries's old history behind the buildings and the monuments we were seeing. From the most forgotten statues in dark squares to the world known monuments. And even though I didn't pay attention at the time, I'm really grateful to her when I think back at it. And the way you were describing the beauty of our capital (even though some places in Paris are shitholes) truly reminded me of her. Your video reminded me that I'd like to visit the world someday, it must have so much places with breath taking sights and history to deliver...
It's debates like this that make me wonder how the other people in the server react when they come online and find 25+ minutes's worth of arguing. In any case, both France and England have a lot of great places that never get mentioned when you visit! Like, one of my teachers once said something along the lines of "France has been reduced to Paris in the eyes of foreigners." You just don't hear nearly enough about the other beautiful places. Also, this debate has made me look up some pretty places in my own country, so thanks for that!
dude this is probably your best video so far i almost died of laughter at the end holy shit lmao
Being born in England to French parents and never having been to neither Paris nor London, this was a very instructive and entertaining video
Thank you for the quality content
I've actually gone to France last summer. I visited Paris and Lyon. It was really fun.
18:23 I wheezed for 3 minutes straight. I shall not apologize for my broken humour
I love the slower pace when showing pics of different places, it allows the viewer to *actually* consider the picture and let the mind go wild.
oh and uh - HELL YEAH CHAMONIX AND ANNECY LAKE GOOD JOB FC
8:23 I once heard posting pictures of the lights of the eiffel tower is illegal, so I hope no one gets in trouble.
Yes, it is illegal, but it’s not enforced.
@@frenchbaguetteintelligence Ohhh, Okie Dokie!
I wish I had the international friends and power to spark arguments about tourism. I could get so many desktop backgrounds
How could an Englishman not bring up Devon and Dorset in a conversation about beaches? On the Jurassic Coast is 185 million years of Mesozoic geological history. This is the foundation of modern paleontology and there is nothing cooler than dinosaurs.
Outside of that, we've got Durdle Door, so everyone else can go get their prostates massaged.
i see this guys point and arguments and how amazing he is at comebacks, and how absolutely educated he is aswell. And i cant help but someday hope i can be as good as him at making such great arguments/comebacks.
I feel like I should say that I am still stuck on how it is legal to shoot Scotts with a crossbow in England.
it's legal for someone to do it once, then it would swiftly be made illegal
Good lord, never stop making these, please.
Me, a pokemon fan watching this video : Hey, so that's where this one place in Kalos is based on. Neat.
Looking at the comparisons. I think it maybe because British architecture is over represented but a good deal of the palaces and other fancy vistas to look rather plain. French architecture certainly holds a great degree of majesty in its architecture and its mountainous terrain. England on the flipside holds a far more relaxed, cozy and rustic vibe. The last word by no means is an insult. The countryside is indeed gorgeous and comfy in comparison to France. Meanwhile in America you gotta head really far west to experience beautiful nature that even compares. The big cities have just deteriorated really bad since the 60s.
ny is great
6:24 "robbed in Romania"
I just let out a glass shattering laugh.
Somehow it has never happened to me doe. unless we are talking 2nd grade.
"You really are not like the other girls, are you?"
God I love Bowl hahaha.
Personally I think both countries are fantastic, but I would KILL to visit Japan in my life. It’s one of the oldest countries in the world and is simply breathtaking to look at. Things like Osaka Castle, The Arashiyama Bamboo Forrest, Mount Fuji, The Island Shrine of Itsukushima and many more are just breathtaking to see. It’s sad that most people just associate it with anime (I live in America, but boy I hate it) when it’s so much more.
I think China may be more interesting to visit (and cheaper) Good food, better landscape, better monuments, good culture and they are developing their tourist attractions a lot ( soft power you know). But it's like France or Italy even if you take a lot of time it will be hard to visit everything at once and there are a lot of restrictions due to covid. Southeast Asia is very good also for its price and the people are nice .
I actually got to visit Japan back in 2019 when I graduated from high school. I wanna go back again in the future.
I feel like you guys set Caffena up for failure, like she’s probably never gonna be able to decide on where to go on vacation
This felt like 2 professionals recommending someone visiting places of their home country, in the best way possible
Yeah, another video of England being thrashed in a debate they never had a chance of winning anyway.
This video made me miss Europe so much. As an Air Force kid who grew up in Germany, I spent my whole childhood touring all over the place, including some of the places in this video (Mount Saint Michael is absolutely stunning, btw) and after moving to the states, the loss of history and culture was immediately noticeable. Not to say the states don’t have anything, but as part of our history involved tearing down historic cities to make way for ugly roads because of our obsession with cars, we lost a lot of what we have. Although I can thoroughly recommend both of the countries discussed in this video, I have to say that Germany has probably just as many landmarks and beautiful sights (Both man-made and natural) so Caffeina probably won’t have to even go far to see some amazing things.
I died of laughter when you made Phoenix (Faux Cares) smash the desk multiple times XD
I wanted to add:
I will side with Faux on this one. France is infinetly more interesting. I wasn't in Paris, but I was in Nice and Montpellier. Just those two cities are infinetly better than entirety of London. In London, only Buckingham palace was interesting, but besides that... nah man.
London may have rich history but I feel it's lost it's way somewhere. Way before brexit even, it felt so.. fake, like it was trying to show off instead of actually be interesting.
I feel like Bowl didn't really show any arguments as to why I should visit England again. Don't get me wrong, the guy is great and all, but taking a serious look at this conversation, seeing how Faux gave most of the worthwhile things to see /JUST IN PARIS/ and seeing Bowl reach out of London to pull ANYTHING to have argument against Faux, was really eye opening and I should visit Paris asap.
This has gotta be one of the best episodes to date, now I'm hyped to see more historic places around the world!
Awesome video, loved to see the beautiful places. But if it all came from "mean people, awesome food" vs "nicer people, terrible food", then y'all should come to Brazil. We are a welcoming people who like to treat outsiders nicely, and our food is just awesome. A continental country where you can see different biomes, know very different cultures, and taste many types of cuisine, all really well-made. Just don't come to Rio, you may get shot
27:40 "Wow! That is so white!" - Caffeina 2022
LMAO
Wether it's a frenchman or an englishman, it's undeniable that they both share something very precious.
Despising the Americans
I refuse to go to Florida Disney due to the unlimited possibility of encountering Florida man.
Great video again, FC.
Also, if you don’t mind sharing, can I ask about your choice words about “American romance” at the beginning? That was pretty heavy condemnation.
(Also I’m pretty sure it was Japanese tourists who were the catalyst for ‘Paris Syndrome’ but I could be wrong).
They probably mean the media representation of romance that Hollywood portrays. Still stereotypical tho, but does influence a good number of people's unrealistic expectations of romance
Caffeina strategy for getting traveling tips by making FC and Bowl fight is a pretty smart move.
this taught me more about france and england than the entirety of history class
also i pick england they don't eat snails
edit: faux cares is an amazing photographer
7:20 was annihilation. sweet goodness I love this channel
This is easily one of the best TH-cam videos ever.
Even though I liked Paris, I still think that if you wanted to visit france for france and french culture, Paris is not the place to go first because it is very unique.
I think the other thing that contributes to "the Frenchies are assholes" is the expectation yanks have that when they go somewhere everyone will speak English for them (this coincides with the 'gracing everyone with their presence' point).