Checked the guys player card. He's not all bad in aircrafts. Slightly above average. But he hasn't played nearly enough to be going around trying to explain vehicles and their strength. He's only ever played 10 battles in the p47 with 8 kills, so its probably barely got any upgrades, and spends most of his time in the premium 109 E-7 which is just a bully plane at 2.3. Diagnosis: simply lacking knowledge and experience.
@@adriano1971 yeah, after playing Black Prince for a while I realased why i was bad with King Tiger. I was using this mighty tank wrong all along. Guess some diversyty is a useful thing.
It's not really all about skill.. People often forget or aren't aware of the information tab for their new vehicles and try to figure out tactics on their own. When it comes to planes, this simple no-brainer stuff tend to save about weeks of strategic mistakes
it makes sense. If someone thinks the P-47 is bad, they probably have a pretty poor understanding of energy fighting/management, a weakness that can be exploited in any matchup
I still don't understand how a La-7 flown correctly can lose a 1v1 under 3 500m. P47 is extremely underrated tho, love this plane now that I'm used to this game.
It can happen as the p47 has excelent flaps and the d22 is the lightest of em. In a dogfight it looses more energy than the 109 so it can stay behind it fairly. Its down to the pilot
@@cola-warthunder9888 yeah, the F4 gets leaning edge slats, so it’s definitely better at lower speeds. Only the F4E and F4F variants though. AiM-7E-2’s do come in handy against P-47s ;)
I haven't played in a good long while, but i do keenly remember P-47's just punishing overzealous german mains. At the same time, i remember seeing P-47 pilots try to out turn a zero, which ended well. In the end, i'm guessing he had some skill issues flying it.
wheneverr you add "skill issue" to anything you say in this game, you just display arrogance. The specific example you brought up, has nothing to do with skill, everything to do with knowledge. And ironically this is the case 90% of the time any1 says "skill issue". And you're also not helping, or adding anything, or making it so that player doesn't do the same mistakes. I refer you to the "skill issue" meme vid. "skill issue" is the new "kys", its a trendy insult people picked up cuz they know it stirs reaction. It's nothing more than arrogance flavored with attention seeking behavior. Just like all the other insult trends "skill issue" will get old, real quick. I wish more people can just at least TRY and be civil and work together in order to fully understand the game meta. Instead of one player just simply calling sumth bad cuz he has no reference, and then people say to that person "skill issue" which just makes him leave the plane altogether. p47 for instance, that thing should club, every single god damn match. But instead, people have this stigma "p47 bad" "su11 OP, we can't win", and they throw a match before they even start trying.
I love the razorbacks at 4.0, at 3.7 it’s going to be a menace. I’m not scared to fight 190s and 109s in the P47, in fact I usually try to bait the the dogfight against German & American planes. Anything I can’t dogfight I usually just run away from until I have enough energy. It’s the flaps though that really wake it up especially in scissor fights.
All P-47 models were literal game clutchers/changers before they added a 25min timer to air RB. I swear they gotta bring that back because that was the forte of American planes in general, being able to stay in the fight longer than most fighters could.
Fast, lots of fuel, lots of guns and ammo, agile that will surprise the enemy. I used to not have a clue how to use this but now 3 kills easy lmao I decided to buy British premium P-47 and it’s an absolute SL printer
you see his crucial mistake was not realizing the mistakes he made and learning from them, instead going on about how he doesn't understand how the plane is doing better, he's focussing too much on what you're doing right and not paying enough attention to what he's doing wrong.
Him not seeming to understand how the other guy was stalling so much is kinda funny.. It's an old trick of using your landing flaps, does some wonderous things on planes that have no combat flaps.
It makes me furious and glad how people terribly underestimate P-47 in this game. This plane is not just good in GRB but also at ARB but I will admit you need more patience while using it on ARB and it will reward you handsomely as long as your team still exist once you reached altitude lmao
I mean, dude's right that the P47 is useless, he just doesn't have the skill to back it up. Like, literally all of those planes he used are infinitely better.
A trick I learned with the p47 is use MEC and if you plan on using nothing but energy tactics, keep your prop pitch at 100% it gives you that extra speed but makes your plane a little less maneuverable. But speed is your greatest weapon in that plane
100% PP is what it is set on auto. If you want to achieve best top speed best way is to set PP to 75%, close rads nearly completely and boost your mixture to 90%, otherwise you're just trolling yourself by switvhing to mec.
@@Gl1tchman I’ll give that a try. I always keep the engine mixture all the way up and I keep the radiator on at like 60-90% since the radiator work with the turbocharger
I always thought PP on auto matched and scaled with throttle? Fixing PP with MEC at 100 should give better acceleration and 'torque' transfer to the air for want of a better term so better climb at the expense of heat, and drag if you dive and throttle down. Max level speed should be where the engine RPMS achieve max torque, which is usually not max RPM.
People underestimate the p47. It's energy retention along with its high altitude performance make it extremley formidable. But most pilots just stick bombs and rockets on it
Wow, that’s some awesome flying. I saw your montage, and I love that you play older planes. Like the mig15, an old top tier. Love it and keep it going!
It "can be" provided your enemies are bad, no matter how good you are, you can't just add more horespower to your plane, nor can you magically make it turn more than the airframe can. P-47D-25 at 4.3 for example is a pretty sad one, it has the same power as the D-22 while being a bit heavier, it has however a bit less drag so it can go faster in straight line. I still wouldn't say it's worth the 0.6 BR increase over D-22 P-47s aren't that good nowadays, 25min timer, ticker bleed and how fast the teams collaps put a lot more preassure onto you and force you to take less time with your engagements. Which sadly P-47s do need. Unless you are in a squad i wouldn't say they are really good, decent - sure, but meta nowadays is simply not suited for them.
@@Gl1tchman D-25s also have better prop blades which give it like +20 kph top speed over the board, imo D-22 should have stayed 4.0 or 4.3 and D-25 has to stay 4.3 they're just not meta
wait a sec, i was in a game with this exact guy literally a day ago💀(i remember bcs he kept talking abt how no one could kill him then tried to follow me in for landing since i was missed half my left wing and got shot down by base AA)
Love the p47, favorite warbird. I'm not a WT pro or anything but after all the games I've played throughout all the variants I seem to dunk on people with it. It's not at all a bad plane just takes patience
I play the P-47 regularly when I want to spice up my games as it plays differently then other planes because of its massive engine and those 8 .50 cals
I have used both of the P-47s in China, they feel rather heavy at times but overall are amazing aircraft. They also love to ground pound like a strike aircraft!
Basically, every plane has it's own skills and you need to use them accordingly to beat your opponents. P47 was a great plane of the WW2, one of the most successful. There is a reason for that.
@@bonaz11 but it does? It does when the game is semi-simulating real life dude. As the video and many other gameplays show, P47 has it's own strengths, and when you fly it accordingly, it's a killer. Every pilot has his own style, if this plane isn't for you, then it's not your or plane's fault, just pick one that is more suitable for you. I can't fly the P47 well either so I don't use it much.
The thing about the P-47 in War Thunder is that the game’s meta does not play to the P-47’s strengths (good high-speed maneuverability, exceptional dive speed and acceleration, very strong energy retention, high top speed at high altitudes), but instead to its weaknesses (poor low-speed acceleration, very poor low to medium-speed maneuverability, poor climb rate). Really for the P-47 to be at its most effective, it needs to start with an altitude advantage over its opponents and use boom-and-zoom tactics-like how it did in real life due to its role as a bomber escort. Really what War Thunder needs is more varied battle scenarios, including air spawns for the P-47 and even custom battles where both sides can start the battle at over 10 km altitude (this would also allow things like the implementation of GM-1 nitrous oxide on the Ta 152 and the addition of the Bf 109G-1/G-3/G-5-which have cockpit pressurization and can be equipped with GM-1).
Agreed. This can be mitigated with a teammate using switch and bait tactics or by side climbing until most of the enemies are below you and you can use your speed/altitude advantage to Boom and Zoom them. However, the former requires a friend and the later requires good teammates and a bad enemy team, and as we all know, War Thunder players are somewhat unlikely to maintain friend groups at brs as low as 3.7.
P-47 + tracer belt = EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE (US tracer belt at that br and up is all incindiary) Also P-47 is a nightmare against ground with its full load-out being extremely powerful
Bro's acting like he doesn't know the infamy of the Pratt and Whitney R2800. 2000hp and he wants to act surprised it can beat anything in the vertical 💀
I've only played a litter rb, but when I was flying p47s I had a great time. So many guns, so fast, great climb, and pretty good survivability. I only really play arcade for the most part but for what it's worth I've loved p47 for a long time in this game, it's definitely not one to be panned full stop
Yes, the P-47 does take practice to turn to fight well. I know this cause it was my main ground attacker before the AU-1 came out. Doe to that, I have learned how to use the p-47s and win in dogfights. It is like the IL-2 with a better turn time for me.
Funny thing is, you're not even using the P-47 to it's strengths. The thing is not a turn fighter, and yet, you still managed to win. Though it seems the other guy just didn't really understand a lot of the fundamentals of dogfighting.
The P-47 is a fine plane, however, players assume a lot of it because of its high tier; especially if you play the Americans mostly, the P-47 is a radically different experience than the other fighters because first of all, it's not at all a good turn fighter, it's more suited for high speed maneuvers and boom & zoom tactics and the average player is simply not going to account for that. The P-47 is magnificently armed and disposes of good options for drop loads that make it *the* CAS fighter of its rank
The issue comes down to most people thinking you win a fight by simply out turning and manuvering against the opponent. Not understandong anything about energy or the impoetance of altitude or speed.
Did this dude call the D-28 "ok"??? That plane is a beast and one my favorite American props. When it was at 4.7 it was an absolutr monster and is still really good at 5.0 as well.
The p 47 d28 for me it's like a Zero, it turn really well, killing 109,190( A and D variants) and some ta's h, the d25 it's the pure ground pounder and the d 22. (I didn't played a lot so i don't have a opinion of it) awesome vídeo btw i liked to see those claps and sets on fire
I don't think that even P-47M, which has more power and is lighter wins vs even the boatiest of 109s, nor Ta-152H. But again, the point was that P-47s are simply not as bad as he made them out to be.
Dude doesn't understand that he doesn't understand the limits of what the P-47 can do and he doesn't understand what his aircraft could do if the P-47 should've lost all those fights according to the author. TLDR: Pilot Error.
Most P-47 I face don’t even try any fancy stuff like energy traps, or god forbid a stall fight, no they just... run... And run... And run... And turn around for a head-on... And miss... And run... and repeat this cycle until I’m either dead of boredom, dead of .50 cals, or the match ends
Because how can you do a stall fight when you have someone sitting on your ass with only slightly less energy than you (technically more or almost equal now due to the turn to reengage)
Could you post a guide on this or something? Or could someone link a Godoy p-47 guide? I love the plane, but the only monoplanes I can really dominate with in America is an f4u with 20mms.
I had a similar situation, it wasn't to prove any plane right, just told him my highest BR is 8.7 and he wanted some 1v1 fun. Told him I'm not very good with planes, I only have that 8.7 because it's squadron A4E, but anyways. He wanted to prank me by bringing a Mig-21, and to my surprise I beat him on first round. Then again, then again, then he brought a Mig-23 and I managed to beat that too. Turns out while I might not be the best pilot, he did not know that with the use of flaps the A4E can turn well, and fell into the same traps 5 rounds after too, still picking turnfights. I felt a little bad because I stated I'm unexperienced while he had all the hightier planes and yet I beat him in every round with a CAS plane that has no afterburner, he got pretty upset in the end and it was supposed to be fun. Edit: Though I used the one-use takeoff boosters in every round, you would only need to evade that trick once and energy trap me afterwards.
As much as i love the p47 it is too fat for me, i can boom n zoom which is amazing at it at the boom part with all the 50 calls, but the zoom part is a completely different story for me
p-47 is op with manual engine control the setup is 85% mixture and prop pitch and 0% both radiators with this setup you will never overheat and you will have more thrust
I will admit i suck at using the p47, but i do at the same time think its a bad plane as it has little power, heavy af, and doesnt turn, rolls slowly too
Most of those planes would actually have beaten the P47 at those speeds and altitude, but the dude made high g flat turns, while the P47 went vertical. I used the German P-47 and bought the new Razorback as well, because I consider it a huge upgrade for my playstyle over the german planes there really are just two issues: 1. XP-50 dunno, but it's FM makes no sense... it's engines are just 2x 1200hp radials (drag) and it's quite heavy, a lot of planes would beat it in stats, yet have like half the rate of climb. 2. Match time / impatience. If my team is good, I might end with nothing, if my team is bad, I end up 1v5+. That aside, I think it's one of the coolest planes of WW2.
Checked the guys player card. He's not all bad in aircrafts. Slightly above average. But he hasn't played nearly enough to be going around trying to explain vehicles and their strength. He's only ever played 10 battles in the p47 with 8 kills, so its probably barely got any upgrades, and spends most of his time in the premium 109 E-7 which is just a bully plane at 2.3. Diagnosis: simply lacking knowledge and experience.
love a good stat card diagnosis
As joing war thunder only about 3 months ago. I would not be telling people how to play the game, lmao.
He’s true tho I’d much rather use any other plane than the p47
Like your average un-ironical "Germany suffers" Wehraboo. Simply doesn't know that everyone else suffers just as well
@@adriano1971 yeah, after playing Black Prince for a while I realased why i was bad with King Tiger. I was using this mighty tank wrong all along. Guess some diversyty is a useful thing.
I believe this is a prime example of what people refer to as a skill issue
exactly
I feel identified with my past self💀
It's not really all about skill.. People often forget or aren't aware of the information tab for their new vehicles and try to figure out tactics on their own. When it comes to planes, this simple no-brainer stuff tend to save about weeks of strategic mistakes
it makes sense. If someone thinks the P-47 is bad, they probably have a pretty poor understanding of energy fighting/management, a weakness that can be exploited in any matchup
I still don't understand how a La-7 flown correctly can lose a 1v1 under 3 500m. P47 is extremely underrated tho, love this plane now that I'm used to this game.
Flown correctly it just can't, this guy just happaned to play a bit poorly and drained himself of all energy.
@@Gl1tchman a bit poorly? That wasn't a bit poorly, he should have won every single one of those fights
@@styrick but he didn't because he didn't play right. You just watched it.
I won a 1v1 against a La-7 near the deck flying the Me-410, though I shot his wingtip earlier in a head-on.
Flaps and tail help alot when dogfighting people, i've managed to win dogfights against Spitfires on a F6F
The J2M2 OMEGALUL, i am dead
Also he didn't out stall your la-7
He out stalled you :)
I was also dead after seeing it
The amount of people that dunk on the P-47 is ridiculous. Unironically one of my favorite props in game.
I just dislike it a lot, but I know it's a very good aircraft. It's heavy but schmoooth
@@kingghidorah8106 its a boom and zoom its not meant to turn
@@seantaggart7382 well the J7W1 is THE boom and zoom aircraft and it turns a lot less, p47 can somewhat dogfight (those with good twr)
same bro, p47s were one of the most feared aircraft for the germans
@@seantaggart7382 every plane can boom and zoom. That's a minimum requirement for any pursuit fighter CAS plane
Damn well losing to a p47 in the bf109f4 is indeed a skill issue
Truth
It can happen as the p47 has excelent flaps and the d22 is the lightest of em. In a dogfight it looses more energy than the 109 so it can stay behind it fairly. Its down to the pilot
@@ELITE-xn3sh the F4 is simply better at low speed, and it's bound to get to a low speed fight if it starts on equal energy.
@@cola-warthunder9888 yeah, the F4 gets leaning edge slats, so it’s definitely better at lower speeds. Only the F4E and F4F variants though. AiM-7E-2’s do come in handy against P-47s ;)
@@SenkaBandit :)
Glitched having all the positioning in the world “Now this is a familiar situation”
I haven't played in a good long while, but i do keenly remember P-47's just punishing overzealous german mains. At the same time, i remember seeing P-47 pilots try to out turn a zero, which ended well. In the end, i'm guessing he had some skill issues flying it.
wheneverr you add "skill issue" to anything you say in this game, you just display arrogance. The specific example you brought up, has nothing to do with skill, everything to do with knowledge. And ironically this is the case 90% of the time any1 says "skill issue". And you're also not helping, or adding anything, or making it so that player doesn't do the same mistakes. I refer you to the "skill issue" meme vid. "skill issue" is the new "kys", its a trendy insult people picked up cuz they know it stirs reaction. It's nothing more than arrogance flavored with attention seeking behavior. Just like all the other insult trends "skill issue" will get old, real quick.
I wish more people can just at least TRY and be civil and work together in order to fully understand the game meta. Instead of one player just simply calling sumth bad cuz he has no reference, and then people say to that person "skill issue" which just makes him leave the plane altogether. p47 for instance, that thing should club, every single god damn match. But instead, people have this stigma "p47 bad" "su11 OP, we can't win", and they throw a match before they even start trying.
@@meusana3681 nerdy ass post
@@meusana3681bro it’s not that deep lmao
@@meusana3681skill issue is a skill issue
@@meusana3681 lmao someone's been having a lot of skill issues lately.
I love the razorbacks at 4.0, at 3.7 it’s going to be a menace. I’m not scared to fight 190s and 109s in the P47, in fact I usually try to bait the the dogfight against German & American planes. Anything I can’t dogfight I usually just run away from until I have enough energy. It’s the flaps though that really wake it up especially in scissor fights.
yes particularly in a diving scissor it’s really strong! turns better the faster it goes and people don’t expect it
@@coyote8427 pop flaps and it turns on a dime. You can only get a few turns with flaps down but its more than enough to secure a dogfight ending shot.
All P-47 models were literal game clutchers/changers before they added a 25min timer to air RB. I swear they gotta bring that back because that was the forte of American planes in general, being able to stay in the fight longer than most fighters could.
Fast, lots of fuel, lots of guns and ammo, agile that will surprise the enemy. I used to not have a clue how to use this but now 3 kills easy lmao I decided to buy British premium P-47 and it’s an absolute SL printer
This is weird to me since I’ve only ever heard that the P47 is one of the strongest planes in the American prop category
agreed.
P47 has definitely fallen out of the meta with the addition of 25 min matches but it is still a great plane
the skill of high alt dogfighting is like forbidden knowledge of the old ones now.
you see his crucial mistake was not realizing the mistakes he made and learning from them, instead going on about how he doesn't understand how the plane is doing better, he's focussing too much on what you're doing right and not paying enough attention to what he's doing wrong.
Too many people blame the plane or call it luck....instead of looking at the mistakes THEY made to put them there
Envy is a slow insidious killer.
Him not seeming to understand how the other guy was stalling so much is kinda funny.. It's an old trick of using your landing flaps, does some wonderous things on planes that have no combat flaps.
I love the P-47 so much, thank you for showing that it can be capable in the right hands!
Sincerely,
P-47 fanatic
It makes me furious and glad how people terribly underestimate P-47 in this game. This plane is not just good in GRB but also at ARB but I will admit you need more patience while using it on ARB and it will reward you handsomely as long as your team still exist once you reached altitude lmao
I feel this mostly just shows that a superior pilot can win fights even if the plane is objectively worse. Nice flying man!
I mean, dude's right that the P47 is useless, he just doesn't have the skill to back it up.
Like, literally all of those planes he used are infinitely better.
In air RB, the P-47 is a force to be reckoned with…
But in ground realistic….
*it’s something else…*
you see, the p47 goes up like a brick
and comes down like a brick
2:08 This edit had me laughing WAY harder than it should have XD
thank you Glitched for peacefully taking someone into a showcase to prove them wrong without being a toxic cocky juggernaut.
A trick I learned with the p47 is use MEC and if you plan on using nothing but energy tactics, keep your prop pitch at 100% it gives you that extra speed but makes your plane a little less maneuverable. But speed is your greatest weapon in that plane
100% PP is what it is set on auto.
If you want to achieve best top speed best way is to set PP to 75%, close rads nearly completely and boost your mixture to 90%, otherwise you're just trolling yourself by switvhing to mec.
@@Gl1tchman I agree with the rads and mixture but try out 85% PP
@@Gl1tchman Is this with all P47s? Or just the Razorback in this video?
@@Gl1tchman I’ll give that a try. I always keep the engine mixture all the way up and I keep the radiator on at like 60-90% since the radiator work with the turbocharger
I always thought PP on auto matched and scaled with throttle? Fixing PP with MEC at 100 should give better acceleration and 'torque' transfer to the air for want of a better term so better climb at the expense of heat, and drag if you dive and throttle down. Max level speed should be where the engine RPMS achieve max torque, which is usually not max RPM.
People underestimate the p47. It's energy retention along with its high altitude performance make it extremley formidable. But most pilots just stick bombs and rockets on it
But can you even climb to those altitudes with you garbage climb rate .
@@wongarnold2879 I'd agree. Typical if I side climb it's too late anyway with many of the bigger maps.
No shot bro said lemme bring the f4 and la7 then lost
Wow, that’s some awesome flying. I saw your montage, and I love that you play older planes. Like the mig15, an old top tier. Love it and keep it going!
Bruh every p47 can be a menace if used right
It "can be" provided your enemies are bad, no matter how good you are, you can't just add more horespower to your plane, nor can you magically make it turn more than the airframe can.
P-47D-25 at 4.3 for example is a pretty sad one, it has the same power as the D-22 while being a bit heavier, it has however a bit less drag so it can go faster in straight line.
I still wouldn't say it's worth the 0.6 BR increase over D-22
P-47s aren't that good nowadays, 25min timer, ticker bleed and how fast the teams collaps put a lot more preassure onto you and force you to take less time with your engagements. Which sadly P-47s do need.
Unless you are in a squad i wouldn't say they are really good, decent - sure, but meta nowadays is simply not suited for them.
@@Gl1tchman D-25s also have better prop blades which give it like +20 kph top speed over the board, imo D-22 should have stayed 4.0 or 4.3 and D-25 has to stay 4.3 they're just not meta
i enjoy playing them because they're challenging but capable and the kills feel very sweet
47s are extremely great in Energy Fighting especially in high altitudes due to the Supercharger.
Who says that P-47 is a bad plane? It’s a monster and I love it. One of the better planes and one of my favorites. It gets better with practice.
Lot of player underestimate the p 47 but in good hands you will see the true power of the beauty ❤️🤣
wait a sec, i was in a game with this exact guy literally a day ago💀(i remember bcs he kept talking abt how no one could kill him then tried to follow me in for landing since i was missed half my left wing and got shot down by base AA)
Love the p47, favorite warbird. I'm not a WT pro or anything but after all the games I've played throughout all the variants I seem to dunk on people with it. It's not at all a bad plane just takes patience
I play the P-47 regularly when I want to spice up my games as it plays differently then other planes because of its massive engine and those 8 .50 cals
The fire power the P47 brings to the fight absolutely rips.
I have used both of the P-47s in China, they feel rather heavy at times but overall are amazing aircraft. They also love to ground pound like a strike aircraft!
P-47 is litterally my favorite plane that isn't a jet. such a fantastic multi-role aircraft in the right hands.
The d30 in the chinese tree is such an underrated beast at 5.0. It claps in rb
I love the D30 but it's so unfortunate that it's SL modifier is really low
the D28 is way better and at the same BR. D30 is similar to D25.
@@ariq4209 the chinese d30 is the same as the us d28
@@ariq4209 yea it does not perform like a 25 lol
@@ariq4209 thats just not true the Chinese D30 is a copypaste of the D28 in game
7 Stages of Grief in a nutshell
Congrats bro the Algorithm has blessed your channel keep up the good content I just had to subscribe
Basically, every plane has it's own skills and you need to use them accordingly to beat your opponents. P47 was a great plane of the WW2, one of the most successful. There is a reason for that.
Big engine
Oh yea if it was good in WW2 than it's also must be good in a videogame, right? Great logic
@@bonaz11 uhhh, yes? Of course they will add the plane if it's a good plane? I don't understand where you're lost, or are you a german main?
@@ApollonDriver good in real life doesn't mean good in game
@@bonaz11 but it does? It does when the game is semi-simulating real life dude. As the video and many other gameplays show, P47 has it's own strengths, and when you fly it accordingly, it's a killer. Every pilot has his own style, if this plane isn't for you, then it's not your or plane's fault, just pick one that is more suitable for you. I can't fly the P47 well either so I don't use it much.
i wish you would have showed the dogfights, i really wonder how a p-47 can get onto the tail of a 109 f4
people forget the terrors when the p47 had air spawns.... good times, bring back the airspawns imo
“The p47 is bad”, no, you’re bad and have a p47
The thing about the P-47 in War Thunder is that the game’s meta does not play to the P-47’s strengths (good high-speed maneuverability, exceptional dive speed and acceleration, very strong energy retention, high top speed at high altitudes), but instead to its weaknesses (poor low-speed acceleration, very poor low to medium-speed maneuverability, poor climb rate). Really for the P-47 to be at its most effective, it needs to start with an altitude advantage over its opponents and use boom-and-zoom tactics-like how it did in real life due to its role as a bomber escort. Really what War Thunder needs is more varied battle scenarios, including air spawns for the P-47 and even custom battles where both sides can start the battle at over 10 km altitude (this would also allow things like the implementation of GM-1 nitrous oxide on the Ta 152 and the addition of the Bf 109G-1/G-3/G-5-which have cockpit pressurization and can be equipped with GM-1).
Agreed. This can be mitigated with a teammate using switch and bait tactics or by side climbing until most of the enemies are below you and you can use your speed/altitude advantage to Boom and Zoom them. However, the former requires a friend and the later requires good teammates and a bad enemy team, and as we all know, War Thunder players are somewhat unlikely to maintain friend groups at brs as low as 3.7.
“It’s not the plane, it’s the pilot, sir”- Rooster, Top Gun: Maverick
A good pilot in a bad plane is almost always better than a bad pilot in a good plane
LMFAO, don't expose the jugs 👀
I’ve known this guy for months, not one truthful word has escaped his mouth
P-47 + tracer belt = EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE (US tracer belt at that br and up is all incindiary)
Also P-47 is a nightmare against ground with its full load-out being extremely powerful
Br of a plane can also counts against ground targets. P-47 is a great ground ponder
Truly amazing work
His issue has to do with his skills, my good man.
Love the p47. Great ground assault vehicle especially in Tank RB. But the AD-4 with its mighy mouse is a lot more fun
J2M sound effect took my breath out, nice one
Bro pulled out the jug and beat him like a clown with it
Bro's acting like he doesn't know the infamy of the Pratt and Whitney R2800. 2000hp and he wants to act surprised it can beat anything in the vertical 💀
Music choice is always on point 😎👍🤭
I've only played a litter rb, but when I was flying p47s I had a great time. So many guns, so fast, great climb, and pretty good survivability. I only really play arcade for the most part but for what it's worth I've loved p47 for a long time in this game, it's definitely not one to be panned full stop
The thunderbolt had a very hefty survival rate in the war aswell...
legends say he still has not understood…
He is one of the guys who fly low in the p 47 then try to turn a fight a zero
WHY TF YOUR WARTHUNDER LOOK SOOOOOO AMAZING BRO HOLY CRAP
Fucked with a bit of post fx setting in Nvidia and in game options ;)
When your sole knowledge on military technology comes from History channel
Destroyed his mental by round 3🤣
Yes, the P-47 does take practice to turn to fight well. I know this cause it was my main ground attacker before the AU-1 came out. Doe to that, I have learned how to use the p-47s and win in dogfights. It is like the IL-2 with a better turn time for me.
Funny thing is, you're not even using the P-47 to it's strengths. The thing is not a turn fighter, and yet, you still managed to win. Though it seems the other guy just didn't really understand a lot of the fundamentals of dogfighting.
this guy must be living on another planet. p 47 on top
The P-47 is a fine plane, however, players assume a lot of it because of its high tier; especially if you play the Americans mostly, the P-47 is a radically different experience than the other fighters because first of all, it's not at all a good turn fighter, it's more suited for high speed maneuvers and boom & zoom tactics and the average player is simply not going to account for that. The P-47 is magnificently armed and disposes of good options for drop loads that make it *the* CAS fighter of its rank
The issue comes down to most people thinking you win a fight by simply out turning and manuvering against the opponent. Not understandong anything about energy or the impoetance of altitude or speed.
At the very least he seems to not be in denial
I would love for you to do this in the P-47N-15
The brit version thunderbolt is class
now this is a familiar situation
says the man in an la7 with a d22 planted firmly on his 6
Did this dude call the D-28 "ok"??? That plane is a beast and one my favorite American props. When it was at 4.7 it was an absolutr monster and is still really good at 5.0 as well.
The p 47 d28 for me it's like a Zero, it turn really well, killing 109,190( A and D variants) and some ta's h, the d25 it's the pure ground pounder and the d 22. (I didn't played a lot so i don't have a opinion of it) awesome vídeo btw i liked to see those claps and sets on fire
I don't think that even P-47M, which has more power and is lighter wins vs even the boatiest of 109s, nor Ta-152H. But again, the point was that P-47s are simply not as bad as he made them out to be.
@@Gl1tchman truly, there are no bad planes, just bad pilots using them incorrectly
@@benjaxx1g459 Buccaneer?
@@fe1jo628 Its a bombor, not everything can be a fighter sadly 😞 but You can try to kill a plane chasing You with the bombs
@@Gl1tchman the p47 m should be in the tech tree. The reason it isnt eludes me.
Rip Irohnick, crying in the corner of his room after he was humiliated
Dude doesn't understand that he doesn't understand the limits of what the P-47 can do and he doesn't understand what his aircraft could do if the P-47 should've lost all those fights according to the author. TLDR: Pilot Error.
That title is a bold statement from someone within boom and zoom distance! 🦅🇺🇲
Most P-47 I face don’t even try any fancy stuff like energy traps, or god forbid a stall fight, no they just...
run...
And run...
And run...
And turn around for a head-on...
And miss...
And run...
and repeat this cycle until I’m either dead of boredom, dead of .50 cals, or the match ends
Because how can you do a stall fight when you have someone sitting on your ass with only slightly less energy than you (technically more or almost equal now due to the turn to reengage)
The J2M is such an unfair plane haha! I laughed at that part.
The only thing it lacks of is the climb rate, kinda losing to plane that comes from above and faster, still it fights pretty well
Can someone explain how do people turn and look at enemy planes at once ? do they play without mouse aim or am I missing sth ?
Could you post a guide on this or something? Or could someone link a Godoy p-47 guide? I love the plane, but the only monoplanes I can really dominate with in America is an f4u with 20mms.
I had a similar situation, it wasn't to prove any plane right, just told him my highest BR is 8.7 and he wanted some 1v1 fun. Told him I'm not very good with planes, I only have that 8.7 because it's squadron A4E, but anyways.
He wanted to prank me by bringing a Mig-21, and to my surprise I beat him on first round. Then again, then again, then he brought a Mig-23 and I managed to beat that too.
Turns out while I might not be the best pilot, he did not know that with the use of flaps the A4E can turn well, and fell into the same traps 5 rounds after too, still picking turnfights. I felt a little bad because I stated I'm unexperienced while he had all the hightier planes and yet I beat him in every round with a CAS plane that has no afterburner, he got pretty upset in the end and it was supposed to be fun.
Edit: Though I used the one-use takeoff boosters in every round, you would only need to evade that trick once and energy trap me afterwards.
I love the P-47
i would love to see you prove some one wrong in a tank fight
he got you because of la-5. that thing is a beast against p-47
i love the p-47, the 8 50cals, the heavy bombs, im kinda glad it was put lower so i can use it in lower brs, lol rip
noice vid btw :)
Classic example of people not understand what a pure bred energy fighter is
As much as i love the p47 it is too fat for me, i can boom n zoom which is amazing at it at the boom part with all the 50 calls, but the zoom part is a completely different story for me
The p47 is totally beast on sims(every variants, but only if you know how to play them)
The mighty P-47 and the R-2800 always win ahahahaha!
p-47 is op with manual engine control the setup is 85% mixture and prop pitch and 0% both radiators with this setup you will never overheat and you will have more thrust
What i wonder about P47 is why diffence nation p47 have diffence state card is they is not the same type p47 or they have some change to it
P47? Bad? Usless?
Who would say something so wrong yet so brave?
Bro the music i fucking cant lmao💀💀💀💀💀💀
And a thing i say
"The plane can do it can you?"
"I still don't understand"
famous last words
and yes
I will admit i suck at using the p47, but i do at the same time think its a bad plane as it has little power, heavy af, and doesnt turn, rolls slowly too
I resershed the almost the entire us tech tree in the p47, and winning 2 1v4
Most of those planes would actually have beaten the P47 at those speeds and altitude, but the dude made high g flat turns, while the P47 went vertical.
I used the German P-47 and bought the new Razorback as well, because I consider it a huge upgrade for my playstyle over the german planes there really are just two issues:
1. XP-50 dunno, but it's FM makes no sense... it's engines are just 2x 1200hp radials (drag) and it's quite heavy, a lot of planes would beat it in stats, yet have like half the rate of climb.
2. Match time / impatience. If my team is good, I might end with nothing, if my team is bad, I end up 1v5+.
That aside, I think it's one of the coolest planes of WW2.
Yeah with current way ARB games go you either are passive and end up with nothing / in a 1v5, or you go aggro where you can't play to your strenghts.
i like the p-47 but if you dont got the alt your dead all tho iv seen some ppl in a p-47 win some how
In DCS WW2 mp pvp servers the p47 is my one and only. She does everything I ask her to do well and still gets me back to base after being shot up
bro flies like an absolute goblin
There was literally an age of warthunder where the P-47 was just being spammed in Ground RB and it was just unbearable
Why do you use the term "was"
It still is LMAO
Not really, people still play it, but it wasn't as spammed
I’ll take the P47 out up to 8.7, it’s good fun
Remember when HVAR would one tap tanks even if it landed on the ground next to it?